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Where Republicans Agree with Hitler: Abolish Unions!

my2cents 2012/05/22 06:57:12
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On May 2, 1933, Adolf Hitler abolished Trade Unions in Germany. Union offices were closed, their money and property confiscated, and their leaders put in prison.


In their place, Hitler established the government controlled German Labor Front which reduced wages and set pay, tied worker pay to performance, took away the right to collectively bargain and the right to strike.


Hitler realized that free trade unions were incompatible with Nazi objectives. Can the same be said for Republicans?

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  • fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust" 2012/05/22 20:55:18
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    +6
    As I recall Hitler also was a firm proponent of gun control, was he not?
    The National Socialists ALSO took over many private companies, and dictated how they run did they not? (*cough* GM *cough*)
    Obama backed the NDAA which is as draconian or more than the Nazis.

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  • Shifting Piece 2013/01/04 02:48:47
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    Shifting Piece
    That awkward moment when you meet a liberal so ironic you want to vomit.
  • Red Branch 2013/01/03 14:53:43
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    Red Branch
    Hitler was before my time, but I do recall him putting the German people back to work and I do not remember reading anything about unions. Maybe the people were just gald to be able to feed their families again..

    However, I do remember Lech Walaesa and his Polish union being attacked by the Communists. Lech was the leader of securing Poland's independence from the Communists of the Soviet Union.
  • ComeOnNow 2012/12/31 15:46:12
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    ComeOnNow
    +1
    For the Democrats of today to somehow accuse the Republicans of being Fascist is laughable and shows a complete lack of understanding of history and what the term Fascism means. Fascism is a big government central planning philosophy. The opposite of what today’s republicans are pushing for, and exactly what Obama is pushing for. While socialists push for actual state ownership, Obama and the democrats of today push far more of a fascist model where the government controls everything yet keeps ownership private and strongly supporting the politically favored businesses and industries while destroying any company that does not abide by their every wish and every industry that competes with their favored industries. The early progressives that the democrats so proudly name themselves after today were staunch supporters of the Fascists. If you look at Obama’s policies and compare them to Hitler’s or Mussolini’s, they are almost identical. Even down to the siding with the Muslim extremists and spitting in the face of the Jews. Look at all the anti-Semitism in the Occupy Wall Street Movement. Fascist economic policies can certainly perpetuate the redistribution of wealth, they also tend to create powerful privileged elites that leverage tax dollars and political favors so as to man...
    For the Democrats of today to somehow accuse the Republicans of being Fascist is laughable and shows a complete lack of understanding of history and what the term Fascism means. Fascism is a big government central planning philosophy. The opposite of what today’s republicans are pushing for, and exactly what Obama is pushing for. While socialists push for actual state ownership, Obama and the democrats of today push far more of a fascist model where the government controls everything yet keeps ownership private and strongly supporting the politically favored businesses and industries while destroying any company that does not abide by their every wish and every industry that competes with their favored industries. The early progressives that the democrats so proudly name themselves after today were staunch supporters of the Fascists. If you look at Obama’s policies and compare them to Hitler’s or Mussolini’s, they are almost identical. Even down to the siding with the Muslim extremists and spitting in the face of the Jews. Look at all the anti-Semitism in the Occupy Wall Street Movement. Fascist economic policies can certainly perpetuate the redistribution of wealth, they also tend to create powerful privileged elites that leverage tax dollars and political favors so as to manipulate the market in their favor. This is what the democrat party of today is all about. Nearly 200 of his biggest donors have landed plum government jobs and advisory posts, won federal contracts worth millions of dollars for their business interests or attended numerous elite White House meetings and social events, an investigation by iWatch News has found. These “bundlers” raised at least $50,000 — and sometimes more than $500,000 — in campaign donations for Obama’s campaign. The cluster of appointments among top bundlers suggests that the size of the donation may have been a factor at least in getting a foot in the door. Less than one in five at the $50,000 level got an administration position. Half of $200,000 bundlers were picked for some post; 80 percent of the $500,000 bundlers were appointed. Obama has showered his supporters with hundreds of billions in loans, contracts, and hand outs. Fascism is not solely about taking over entire industries, even though they did, it is about using brute government force to force companies to act on the sole benefit of the state. You always hear Democrats talk about how businesses should not act in the interest of profit, but purely for the workers, country and the democrats goals. The notion that businesses operate and make decisions only with the consent of the government is known as fascism. There are already many fascist elements in our so-called capitalist society, and Republicans advocate these policies almost as much as Democrats do. While it sounds good, the system leads to a destruction of innovation and efficiencies and ends up destroying the economy long term. Fascist policies are also expensive. The more a business is forced to comply with decisions against its own financial interest, the more it will have to cut jobs. We all know the employment numbers continue to be wretched. The real cause: Too much fascism. Fascism hurts businesses whether carried out by Republicans or Democrats. What President Obama has been pushing for, and moving toward, is more insidious: government control of the economy, while leaving ownership in private hands. That way, politicians get to call the shots but, when their bright ideas lead to disaster, they can always blame those who own businesses in the private sector. Sound familiar? This is precisely what happened during the recent recession. For example, government-mandated loans aimed at boosting homeownership were clearly among the root causes of the economic downturn - but when the sub-prime bubble burst blame was placed exclusively on “corporate greed.” Of course at the same time politicians were absolving themselves of any responsibility, they were forcing taxpayers to subsidize massive bailouts of these “greedy” financial institutions. This is the basis of fascism’s “third way” between laissez-faire capitalism and Marxism. It’s also precisely the economic system we see at work in America today, a centralized bureaucratic oligarchy in which farm subsidies, investments in “green jobs,” Wall Street bailouts, Export-Import Bank subsidies and numerous other taxpayer-funded incentives manipulate the market to serve specific political purposes. Is any property really “private” if the government can take it based on little more than a whim? And is any sector of the economy really “private” as long as government can swoop in and set its prices and production quotas? And finally, is any market truly “free” if government can compel citizens to make specific purchases? Obama is almost by definition a nouveau fascism. Here are some examples; 1. Fascists are masters of manipulating the media in order to justify their stifling policies just as Joseph Goebbles did as propaganda minister for Hitler’s Nazi regime. As he said, if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people eventually will come to believe it. It is clear that the entire media, universities, and even the grade school teachers unions are pushing the Democrat fascist propaganda. Look at how even thr president directly atttackes and tries to discredit Fox News, the only news source that actually presents both sides to every story. They have Democrats on just about every program stating their views and having open debate, yet the democrats paint them as only showing one side. Where is that on MSNBC, CNN, etc? Lets face it, most of the media simply prints the democrats daily talking points. Hitler attacked any group and attacked and nationalized any media that preached against his policies. 2. Let’s not forget Obama's "Truth Squad" in Missouri, where elected Democrats were cruising the internet looking for examples of those that disagreed with him during the health care debate and threatening to use legal means to suppress opponent's "Lies." 3. Under fascism, the state, through official agencies, controlled all aspects of manufacturing, commerce, finance, and agriculture. Licensing was ubiquitous; no economic activity could be undertaken without government permission. Levels of consumption were dictated by the state, and "excess" incomes had to be surrendered as taxes or "loans". 4. To maintain high employment and minimize popular discontent, fascist governments also undertook massive public-works programs financed by steep taxes, borrowing and fiat money creation. Sound Familiar? 5. Mussolini heaped praise upon FDR's New Deal as "boldly...interventionist in the field of economics." Roosevelt was not reticent in his compliments to Mussolini for the latter's "honest purpose in restoring Italy" and acknowledged that he kept "in fairly close touch with the admirable Italian gentlemen." 6. ObamaCare is not about health care, per se; rather, it is intended to dictate to business and the individual what insurance they must buy, what health care they are allowed to access, and ultimately what behavior is acceptable -- all at the whim of a centralized bureaucracy. 7. The Dodd-Frank Bill firmly establishes the concept of "too big to fail" for certain financial institutions, thereby subjecting them to the absolute control of the state while allowing, and in many cases forcing, others to cease doing business, as well as instituting lending and operating policies determined by government regulators. 8. GM and Chrysler: The Obama regime has thrown out the rule of law when it comes to the rights of private investors by their actions against the bondholders of Chrysler and General Motors, as well as forcefully taking over and operating both companies and others as quasi-private entities. They shut down dealerships that have historically supported Republican candidates and very few that openly supported democrats were shut down. 9. They have chosen which businesses will succeed or fail by the taxpayer financing of companies such a Solyndra among a score of others, others of which have failed. The Obama appointees to the National Labor Relations Board are now dictating to companies where they can locate and are attempting to force their workers into unions without secret ballots. 10. The mantra of public-works spending is alive and well and constantly being used to justify massive government spending. 11. A key characteristic of the reality of fascist thinking is rampant cronyism and corruption. Certain capitalists, wishing to ingratiate themselves with the state, are willing to fund the election of those in power in exchange for favorable government contracts and avoidance of regulatory wrath. Recently, much of Wall Street, Hollywood, the unions, major companies such as General Electric, and the super-wealthy such as Warren Buffett and Soros are willing to sleep with those in power and be used as props in any propaganda campaign initiated by the Obama regime. 12. The Obama administration has, through the Justice Department and other agencies, behaved exactly as many quasi-fascist regimes in the past -- almost all of whom have been governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect themselves and their friends from accountability. 13. When a health insurance company that marketed Medicare policies tried to warn its olicyholders that Obamacare would hurt seniors’insurance programs, the Department of Health and Human Services issued on a gag order on such communications with policyholders. It also said that the warning was misleading, which it was not. When segments of the health insurance industry turned against Obamacare, Mr. Obama threatened to have the antitrust exemption of the industry revoked. When the timing of the threat is taken into account, it is clear that this was revenge and payback for Obamacare criticism. Working in tandem with Mr. Obama, Congressional leaders also issued threats to insurance companies that dared to dissent. 14. Then there was the highly publicized attempt of the Obama Administration to use the National Endowment for the Arts to influence artists and others who received government grants to create “works of art” supporting the Obama program. This is not an isolated example of the illegal and improper use by Mr. Obama of the government to propagandize and campaign. 15. You will probably also recall the White House’s collection of e-mail names, addresses and comments of those making “fishy” comments about Obamacare. He encouraged Americans to send the White House emails or web posts of those that were against Obama Care. Just as Hitler had school children report their parents to the government. 16. Mr. Obama and Democratic Congressional leaders have expressed support for the Employee Free Choice Act, which would abolish the secret ballot in union elections. This shows the willingness of Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party leadership to do anything to satisfy the demands of one of their voting constituencies. In this case, it’s the labor bosses, who want to revive their fortunes by making it easy to organize new unions – without the need to pass the test of a secret ballot obtaining the right to organize a union. 17. In March of 1938 The Nazi Weapons Law was issued. These were it’s main points:  Classified guns for “sporting purposes”.  All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check. This applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition.  Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.  Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.  The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.  Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition. Once this had been accomplished, Hitler set his sights on disarming the Jews. In November of the same year, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons Shall I Continue?
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  • Bob S 2012/05/24 12:37:26
    Undecided
    Bob S
    Comparing unions to Hitler. That is an interesting tought. They both used the same bullying tactics and we all know what happened to Hitler. Can the unions be far behind. Actually it isn't the union membership as it is the leadership and their thuggery ways. New leadership might be very helpful. Then the good instincts of unions will prevail an help everyone.
  • Superman 2012/05/23 14:55:32
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    Superman
    +1
    godwins law

    FYI Republicans aren't interested in confiscating money or putting union leaders in prison. Theres a massive difference between trying to change the economic culture and the fascist punishment of the opposition.

    But don't let that get in the way of a good ole nazi comparison...
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/05/23 08:32:32 (edited)
    Undecided
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +2
    This is a wonderful statement and sure has created good lively debate! There is a wonderful little synopsis of Hitlers political ideals and how he manipulated unions.



    But where is there any clear proof that Republicans want to abolish unions?



    Anyone hear that see's themselves as a Communist but flies under the flag of Democrat would be for the very same thing! There were NO unions in Soviet Russia!



    At the end of the day this poll question provides NO proof that Republicans have a set clear policy to abolish unions!
  • my2cents littleb... 2012/05/23 18:46:07
    my2cents
    Of course, they have, they've been doing it for years. Everyone knows that. Well, everyone except you . . . .
  • littleb... my2cents 2012/05/23 18:59:51
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    Tripe! Please produce ONE piece of legislation for the put forth by them to destroy or outlaw unions?

    This is a free country my friend and I should have the right to work anywhere I choose alongside Union members if I can perform the same job! And in doing so I should be as well exempt from paying dues anyway!

    I'll stick to my original response! I've seen some of what unions do as good for their members. I have seen 1st hand an incident where the unions supported a very dangerous act and when asking my Father a TWA Flight Manager to look the other way. He left the union after being a rep for them! You are safer in the skies today because my father had the sense those idiots did not!
  • blissful 2012/05/23 06:06:29
    Undecided
    blissful
    What are they gonna do when there is no one else to Bully? Will they turn on each-other? Hmmmm!!
  • reaper 2012/05/23 04:58:38
    Yes, the Republican Party has many similarities to fascism.
    reaper
    there are some similarities but I wouldn't say they are one in the same. but the tea party does have more in common of what it has become.
  • JDLogan 2012/05/23 03:10:33
    Undecided
    JDLogan
    +2
    You have committed a logical fallacy so common it has its own specific name, reductio ad Hitlerum. Just because Hitler did evil things, it does not follow that everything he did was evil; everything must be judged on its own merits.
  • Superman JDLogan 2012/05/23 14:57:18
    Superman
    +3
    Hitler liked dogs. Liking dogs is evil!

    Hitler liked trips to the country. Trips to the country are evil!
  • JDLogan Superman 2012/05/23 15:36:52
    JDLogan
    +1
    Hitler was a teetotaler, we must all get rip-roaring drunk, frequently!
  • Superman JDLogan 2012/05/23 16:02:57
    Superman
    +2
    I think I just found the political platform to get behind!

    Also? Hitler wore pants. Like in every single picture he's in he has pants on. Its boxer time here at the office. I don't want to be like those fascist pant wearing Republicans.
  • JDLogan Superman 2012/05/23 16:09:32
    JDLogan
    +1
    I've considered wearing kilts for that very reason, plus the whole airflow thing.....
  • Superman JDLogan 2012/05/23 16:14:05
    Superman
    +2
    On a serious note I actually got married in a kilt and wear it from time to time.

    Returning to humor . . . does that make me William Wallace?
  • JDLogan Superman 2012/05/23 16:30:27
    JDLogan
    +1
    That's awesome, my heritage is primarily German, I've found some old drawings of some of the older clothes German warriors wore, for a time a kilt-like garmet was popular, at least in the warmer months. A little less showy/colorful than either the Irish or Scotish kilts, but as functional.

    Ah yes, humor, I'm not sure you want to be William Wallace, getting your guts torn out for freedom probably isn't the barrel of fun it sounds like!
  • my2cents Superman 2012/05/23 18:43:13
    my2cents
    That depends on what you've got under your kilt! ;)
  • Superman my2cents 2013/01/03 20:43:38
    Superman
    Two shades of lipstick and thats all ...
  • Red Branch Superman 2013/01/03 14:55:42
    Red Branch
    +1
    Hitler was a vegetarian.
  • my2cents JDLogan 2012/05/23 18:44:17
    my2cents
    Really? That's not what the RWNJs say . . . .
  • goatman112003 2012/05/23 02:35:00
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    goatman112003
    +1
    If you go that way then under communism you don't have labor unions either.
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/05/23 01:49:15
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +3
    There is no comparison. The unions that are under attack are public sector unions that negotiate their salaries against the personal interest of the taxpayer, not corporations. Fascism and Socialism are cousins, not opposites.
  • Odinsown 2012/05/23 00:08:51
    Undecided
    Odinsown
    +2
    Eh. As a free market libertarian I think unions have a place, what needs to be abolished is the absurd government rules that grant unions advantages over non union workers, and prevent employers from hireing outside of the union.
  • seattleman 2012/05/22 23:47:43
    Undecided
    seattleman
    Only Hitler was Hitler. I wish the Hitler analogies would stop. But.....I do get your point. Allow me to add; vote on june 5   recall walker
  • ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠ 2012/05/22 23:24:58
    Undecided
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Hitler was a socialist, not a fascist.
  • my2cents ☠ Live ... 2012/05/23 18:20:11
    my2cents
    Nazism was Germany's form of fascism. Hitler was a fascist. Look it up.
  • Red Branch ☠ Live ... 2013/01/03 15:01:25
    Red Branch
    Hitler was a socialist of the Fascist branch.

    Difference between Communism and Fascism/Nazism:
    1. Communism also known as International Socialism. Fascism/Nazism is focused on the nationality.
    Nazism has a racial component that Fascism does not. Mussolini and Franco did not ship Jews to death camps.
    2. Communists will send party leaders into run the factories, mines, transportation.
    Fascists, will leave the owners/managers in place and just pass laws so that they have no discretion in running their business.
  • merlinskiss 2012/05/22 23:24:44
    Undecided
    merlinskiss
    +3
    Perhaps not true fascism. But it reminds me of this and applies to all political parties as they try to consolidate power...

    "In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

    Martin Niemöller
  • Keith 2012/05/22 21:13:25
    Undecided
    Keith
    +1
    Quit comparing republicans to nazis. Its hateful and misleading.
  • rightside 2012/05/22 21:05:35
    Undecided
    rightside
    +3
    OK, you get "STUPID QUESTION OF THE WEEK" award.
    Hitler liked dogs, do you? You must be like hitler.
  • fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust" 2012/05/22 20:55:18
    No, any similarities to fascism is purely coincidental.
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    +6
    As I recall Hitler also was a firm proponent of gun control, was he not?
    The National Socialists ALSO took over many private companies, and dictated how they run did they not? (*cough* GM *cough*)
    Obama backed the NDAA which is as draconian or more than the Nazis.
  • reaper fuzzy K... 2012/05/23 04:56:49
    reaper
    gun control or ban?
  • littleb... reaper 2012/05/23 19:30:54
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    Essentially if you were a Nazi you could! If not you couldn't. It would be like the Democrats saying guns are ok for them but not others!
  • BB 2012/05/22 20:53:28
    Undecided
    BB
    +5
    Hitler liked coffee, you like coffee. You must be Hitler.
    Do you see how stupid that sounds?
  • \V/ BB 2012/05/22 21:06:11
  • Jasmine \V/ 2012/05/23 00:43:28
    Jasmine
    +2
    A THOUSAND RAVES - I LOVE LEWIS BLACK!!!!!!!!!!
  • BB \V/ 2012/05/23 03:11:08
    BB
    I think someone needs to get Glen Beck some Mountain Dew and Cheetos.
  • my2cents \V/ 2012/05/23 18:40:57
    my2cents
    +1
    This is my favorite Lewis Black rant of all time!
  • my2cents BB 2012/05/23 18:41:42
    my2cents
    Works for the far right!

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