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VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

Autarchic 2011/12/02 16:21:55
AP - WASHINGTON D.C. -

In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College ... Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter...

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T!

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. ... Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won't survive much longer.
If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can,
because our country is being looted and ransacked!
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  • Ken Johnson 2012/01/08 02:01:10
    Ken Johnson
    +9
    Hey folks, ever heard of divide and conquer? That's what the establishment has done in the US behind a facade that they work against one another. They are complicit and simply distract us with BS to divide us.

    "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights to the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done...And I am Caesar." -Julius Caesar.

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  • pinkSugar 2012/01/08 07:11:23
    pinkSugar
    +8
    The thing I keep seeing throughout this thread of comments is that people keep interchanging the TWO Different Terms - Citizen and NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.. They are different.. our founding fathers made certain it was not just a citizen, But a Natural Born Citizen that would be eligible to be President.. (Citizen) Doesn't always equal (Natural Born Citizen..) I think some people are ignoring it, intentionally.
  • Ken Johnson 2012/01/08 02:01:10
    Ken Johnson
    +9
    Hey folks, ever heard of divide and conquer? That's what the establishment has done in the US behind a facade that they work against one another. They are complicit and simply distract us with BS to divide us.

    "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights to the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done...And I am Caesar." -Julius Caesar.
  • Benjami... Ken Joh... 2012/01/09 18:05:49
    Benjamin Whittier
    +5
    Totally agreed. The Obama birth issue is but a side show. The real issue is how we are living under a corporatocracy as opposed to a democracy.
  • Ken Joh... Benjami... 2012/01/14 03:40:02
    Ken Johnson
    +3
    Spread the word about our only hope to restore our country and our freedoms...Ron Paul 2012!
  • wuonbi Benjami... 2012/02/04 07:12:41
    wuonbi
    +1
    Just remember we are not a democracy, never were , and should not be.
    We are a republic.
  • Yo'Adri... wuonbi 2013/05/16 00:07:03
  • KingofC... Benjami... 2012/07/29 04:05:22
    KingofConquerors22
    lol democracy = slavery
    51% of the population controls 49% of the population.
  • Zach Davis Ken Joh... 2012/06/03 02:25:05
    Zach Davis
    +6
    True enough. While I cannot recall the exact words here is a quote:

    "America will not fall to foreign invasion. The only way America will fall is if it becomes divided and collapses in on itself." -Abraham Lincoln

    Thus if America is infiltrated, if America is divided, she will fall.
  • Dawn Searle 2012/01/07 22:32:08
    Dawn Searle
    +6
    ROTFLMAO!!! This is an April Fool's Day HOAX!! http://www.snopes.com/politic...
  • cdmsr Dawn Se... 2012/06/08 04:13:07
    cdmsr
    +1
    This just shows how easy it is to fool fools.
  • Jeff Prager 2012/01/07 21:55:23
    Jeff Prager
    +6
    Urban legend. Nothing above is true. That's what you get for getting your information from a web site called Sodahead.
  • TomM 2012/01/07 20:46:35
    TomM
    +8
    I don't understand where some people have had their heads buried if they can't remember the whole scenario of what transpired to bring this country down financially. First it was a mandate from the UN for the west to share the wealth. Clinton and the US congress signed NAFTA and the agreement with China. That started the exodus of jobs to China. Bush's wars continued to bilk this nation out of money when the government knew full well the tax base of the middle class was no longer there or was reduced. Then come Obama who gave way free money to the elite, banks and big business which further caused the Fed to print worthless dollars that continued to bring down the value of the dollar world wide. Then US banks started selling derivatives that were nothing but worthless paper for debt in Europe. With all of this going on at the same time the world economy began to tumble. To blame all of this on Bush or Obama is as faulty of a comment as they come when the real culprit of the US demise is at the hands of the UN, Clinton and the Gingrich led GOP congress.
  • Ken Joh... TomM 2012/01/08 01:02:53
    Ken Johnson
    +4
    Abolish the Federal Reserve and we'll be doing a heck of a lot better. It is the head of the snake that employs all of the crooks in DC and funds both sides of all wars.
  • Benjami... Ken Joh... 2012/01/09 18:07:18
    Benjamin Whittier
    +3
    Bravo!!
  • ROSEBUD TomM 2012/03/23 04:23:15
    ROSEBUD
    +1
    I DON'TKNOW WHICH PLANET YOU'VE BEEN ON BUT YOU LOST ABOUT 15 YEARS OF A HOUSING BUBBLE THAT WAS CREATED BY THE DEMOCRATS STARTING WHEN CLINTON REINSITUTED THE "COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT" IN '93, FORCED THE FED TO LOWER CREDIT STANDARDS SO THAT POOR PEOPLE COULD OWN A HOME WITH NO DP, CREDIT CHECK OR A JOB. HE SAID HE DIDN'T CARE IF THEY WERE ON UNEMPLOYMENT OR WELFARE THEY COULD STILL OWN A HOME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS SMOKING IN THOSE DAYS BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO THINK THE MAN & THE DEMS IN CONGRESS THOUGHT THEIR SYSTEM WOULD WORK. NO WAY! CLINTON WORKED WITH HUD SECY ANDREW CUOMO & PUSHED "AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" LOANS THROUGH HUD INTO FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC. CONGRESSIONAL DEMS BARNEY FRANK & SEN. CHRIS DODD FORCED BANKS UNDER THREATS OF LOWERING THEIR RATINGS OR OF RACIAL BIAS LAWSUITS. SIMULTANEOUSLY, IN LATE 90'S OBAMA WORKED FOR ACORN AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER SHAKING DOWN BANKS IN SOUTHSIDE OF CHICAGO FORCING BANKS UNDER THREATS OF RACIAL BIAS LAWSUITS & REPRESENTED ACORN IN COURT AFTER HE OBTAINED HIS LAW DEGREE. THEY PUSHED LOANS ALSO THROUGH HIS BUDDY, CEO FRANKLIN RAINES, WHO SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR KEEPING TWO SETS OF BOOKS & TAKING A $90 MIL BONUS FOR HIMSELF. THESE LOANS WERE BUNDLED BY F&F & SOLD TO OTHER BANKS, HEDGE FUNDS & INVESTMENT INSTITUTIONS WORLD WIDE. WHEN...&&&&&&&&
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    I DON'TKNOW WHICH PLANET YOU'VE BEEN ON BUT YOU LOST ABOUT 15 YEARS OF A HOUSING BUBBLE THAT WAS CREATED BY THE DEMOCRATS STARTING WHEN CLINTON REINSITUTED THE "COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT" IN '93, FORCED THE FED TO LOWER CREDIT STANDARDS SO THAT POOR PEOPLE COULD OWN A HOME WITH NO DP, CREDIT CHECK OR A JOB. HE SAID HE DIDN'T CARE IF THEY WERE ON UNEMPLOYMENT OR WELFARE THEY COULD STILL OWN A HOME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS SMOKING IN THOSE DAYS BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO THINK THE MAN & THE DEMS IN CONGRESS THOUGHT THEIR SYSTEM WOULD WORK. NO WAY! CLINTON WORKED WITH HUD SECY ANDREW CUOMO & PUSHED "AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" LOANS THROUGH HUD INTO FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC. CONGRESSIONAL DEMS BARNEY FRANK & SEN. CHRIS DODD FORCED BANKS UNDER THREATS OF LOWERING THEIR RATINGS OR OF RACIAL BIAS LAWSUITS. SIMULTANEOUSLY, IN LATE 90'S OBAMA WORKED FOR ACORN AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER SHAKING DOWN BANKS IN SOUTHSIDE OF CHICAGO FORCING BANKS UNDER THREATS OF RACIAL BIAS LAWSUITS & REPRESENTED ACORN IN COURT AFTER HE OBTAINED HIS LAW DEGREE. THEY PUSHED LOANS ALSO THROUGH HIS BUDDY, CEO FRANKLIN RAINES, WHO SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR KEEPING TWO SETS OF BOOKS & TAKING A $90 MIL BONUS FOR HIMSELF. THESE LOANS WERE BUNDLED BY F&F & SOLD TO OTHER BANKS, HEDGE FUNDS & INVESTMENT INSTITUTIONS WORLD WIDE. WHEN BUSH CAME IN & SAW THE BANKS WERE HEADED FOR TROUBLE HE ASKED CONGRESS 17 TIMES TO REIN IN F& F BUT THEY VOTED IT DOWN. FINALLY BY THE 18TH TIME WE HAD BARNEY FRANK, CHRIS DODD, MAXINE WATERS, JOHN KERRY, CHARLES SCHUMER ETC. ETC. BEFORE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS CLAIM THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE BANKS WHEN IT WAS CLEAR BY THAT TIME THE BANKS WOULD FAIL BY SEPTEMBER 2007 THE HOUSING BUBBLE BURST & WHEN ALL THOSE TOXIC LOANS WENT INTO DEFAULT, THE BANKS CAME TUMBLING DOWN. F & F WERE THE FIRST TO FAIL & UNDER TARP THE TAXPAYERS HAD TO BAIL THEM OUT FOR WHAT THE DEMOCRATS & BILL CLINTON'S FOLLY CREATED. WALL ST WENT INTO COLLAPSE & THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS & FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WENT OUT,
    MANUFACTURING DIED, STORES CLOSED & MANY HAVE NEVER RECOVERED.

    OBAMA LIKES TO BLAME BUSH WHEN HE WASN'T IN OFFICE WHEN I T STARTED & WALL ST WHEN THE BANKS WHO GOT STUCK WITH THOSE TOXIC LOANS WENT OUT OF BUSINSESS BUT OBAMA CARRIED ON GIVING STIMULUS LOANS TO HIS CORPORATE CRONIES (SOLYNDRA & 4 OTHERS) WHO WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AFTER TAKING TAXPAYERS' MONEY. THOSE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS LOST THEIR HOMES AS WELL. THEIR KIDS COULDN'T FINISH COLLEGE OR AFFORD A LOAN OR GET A JOB.

    THERE ARE CURRENTLY 44 MILLION PEOPLE ON FOOD STAMPS & HE WANTS EVERYONE TO BUY HIS BONEHEADED PASSING OF OBAMACARE WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN GET A JOB, HE JOKED ABOUT THE SHOVEL-READY JOBS NOT BEING SHOVEL-READY AS HE THOUGHT WHEN WE KNOW THEY NEVER EXISTED, IT WAS PAYBACK TO ALLTHE UNIONS WHO DONATED TO HIS CAMPAIGN TO GET HIM ELECTED. OBAMA WAS A UNION ORGANIZER FOR SEIU AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR ACORN BECAUSE SEIU & ACORN WERE CONNECTED.

    BY THE TIME OBAMA WAS INAUGURATED 4 MOS. LATER, WE HAD STARTED TO RECOVER BUT WERE IN A SLOW RECESSION & DUE TO HIS POLICIES HE MADE MATTERS WORSE. HIS STIMULUS BILL WAS PAYBACK TO ALL THE UNION CRONIES WHO HELPED GET HIM ELECTED. HE THEN TOOK OVER GM, FIRED THE CEO, GAVE 20% OF THE COMPANY TO THE AUTOWORKERS UNION CRONIES WHO ALSO PAID TO GET HIM ELECTED & THE U,S. GOVERNMENT BECAME A CAR MFG.CO. OWNER WHILE HE CLOSED 1500 CAR DEALERSHIPS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, PUTTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK, EMPTY SHOWROOMS, CAR FACTORIES CLOSED & INSPITE OF HIS LIES, GM STILL OWES THE US TAXPAYER 50% OF THE LOAN & MOST OF THE BANKS HAVE PAID BACK EXCEPT AIG BY THAT TIME. HE THEN TRIED BLAMING THE BANKS WHEN THE DEMOCRATS HAD PUT THEM IN THE POSITION THEY WERE IN BY FORCING THEM TO GIVE THE LOANS IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO NOW THEY WON'T GIVE LOANS TO FORECLOSURES. HE CREATED THE MESS BUT CONTINUES TO BLAME IT ON BUSH, WALLST, BANKS, ARAB SPRING, THE CHINESE, KIOSKS IN THE MALLS, RICH PEOPLE, THE UPPER 1% & TECHNOLOGY ETC. ETC. IT GOES ON & ON.

    WE ARE IN THIS SORRY MESS BECAUSE IT WAS INTENDED TO BE THIS WAY. THIS IS PART OF HIS AGENDA TO REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH. HE WANTS US TO BE DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT & THOSE WHO HAVE MONEY SHOULD GIVE IT ALL TO THOSE WHO HAVE NONE. YOU CAN WORK YOUR SORRY ASS OFF ALL YOUR LIFE & SAVE YOUR MONEY TO BE FREE OF DEBT & WHEN YOU RETIRE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXIST, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY OBAMA WANTS IT TO BE. HE WANTS TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY AWAY FROM EVERYONE WHO HAS WORKED THEIR LIFE AWAY & JUST GIVE IT TO THE LAZY LOWLIFES WHO'D RATHER SIT AT HOME & COLLECT A WELFARE CHECK THAN GO OUT & WORK FOR A LIVING. SO BY TAKING AWAY ALL THE JOBS, ALL THE SORRY ASS LOWLIFES CAN CONTINUE TO LOUNGE IN FRONT OF THEIR BIG SCREEN TV'S WHILE THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ALL THEIR LIVES CONTINUE TO BE TAXED OUT OF EXISTENCE IN ORDER TO PAY THEM A CHECK EVERY MONTH & FOOD STAMPS, MEDICAID & EVERYTHING ELSE THEY WANT FOR NOTHING INCLUDING BIRTH CONTROL PILLS, WHEN CONTRACEPTIVES ARE FREE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS THEM IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE SPREADING OF AIDS & OTHER SSD'S. INFACT THE US GOVERNMENT FUNDS PLANNED PARENTHOOD, GIVES OUT FREE BIRTH CONTROL & ABORTIONS, BUT THE LOWLIFES WOULD RATHER KEEP HAVING BABIES BECAUSE THEY COLLECT ANOTHER WELFARE BENEFIT PER CHILD.

    HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN SAID THAT GOVERNMENT WANTS TO LIMIT BIRTHS & DIMINISH PREVENTIVE MEDICINE FOR THE ELDERLY IN ORDER TO LOWER THE POPULATION TO CREATE A NEW WORLD ORDER. NO MATTER, THEY WILL CREATE AN IDEAL WORLD FOR THE IDEAL PEOPLE & WE CAN JUST GUESS WHO THEY WILL BE. IS IT ANY WONDER THAT OBAMA HAS JUST, BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, DECIDED TO GIVE $1,5 BILLION TO THE" MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD" WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE STARVING, SICK & HOMELESS IN THE US BECAUSE OF HIM?????
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  • Agingst... ROSEBUD 2013/05/25 04:04:53
    Agingstoner
    Nobody pays any attention to the words of people too stupid to use the shift key.
  • cdmsr TomM 2012/06/08 04:12:06
    cdmsr
    Your post is as outrageously stupid as the original article. The UN can't order anything.
  • brian.porteous 2012/01/07 18:45:00
    brian.porteous
    +4
    Obama took over at a time when Bush had just trashed the economy! He did the best he could to revive the country and get back to normal.
    As to comments about the country being raped - the so called 'enemy' are breeding 7 times faster than Americans are. Result, America will be taken over within 20 years, at the ballot box - Obama or no Obama!
  • Kevin S... brian.p... 2012/01/07 19:17:02
    Kevin Scally
    +7
    The economy did not tank until the democrats took over both houses. Simple fact - and this followed McCain and Bush's warnings of the lending/real estate crisis in 2005. And such crisis stemmed from the Community Reinvestment Act and subsequent amendments. Perfect storm but it was not a Bush thing. It was everybody and the democrats have no footing to say otherwise -- especially if theirs was much of the cause.
  • Arthur ... Kevin S... 2012/01/07 21:32:22
    Arthur Clough
    +5
    The economy tanked in September/October 2008. Obama took office in January 2009. It was 40 years in the making due to questionable loans and a global slowdown including Europe. It's unfair to blame Bush for the crash, but he lead for eight years before the crash and was a huge deficit spender in a good economy.
  • GianniP Kevin S... 2012/01/07 22:12:51
    GianniP
    +2
    That is exactly right; a straight downhill slide from 2007 when the people gave their government over to the progressive Democrats. It wil never be the same again. No nation could withstand the full cpourt press they've made to destroy what's left of the U.S.
  • Arthur ... GianniP 2012/01/07 22:28:29
    Arthur Clough
    +4
    That's emotional hogwash. It took many years of mismanagement of this country and creating artificial wealth, deregulating the financial industries, and many other factors. Blaming this on one party is silly. I am not a Democrat. Due to global issues even beyond our borders, we are in for a very long term high unemployment rate and a larger disparity between the wealthy and the poor, with the numbers of poor families rising. As long as each party wants to blame the other, we will have a problem. What sacrifices were we called on during the two 21st century wars that we were involved in? As I remember when we were at war instead of raising taxes we got dealt "the Bush tax cuts". Every other generation before us was called upon to sacrifice.
  • PBJN71 Arthur ... 2012/01/08 19:11:09
    PBJN71
    +4
    Thank you, for once someone speaking the truth not just a bunch of crap. If more people were like you this craziness wounld not be happening!!!!
  • Ken Joh... Kevin S... 2012/01/08 01:06:10
    Ken Johnson
    +3
    Copy and pasted from the post above...no need to change it up. The age old tactic of divide and conquer has worked to a tee for over 100 years in the US. We bicker abotu who is causing what, while they BOTH are complicit to all that goes on. "Wake up bud. Turn off your TV and turn on your mind. Both sides are employed by the PRIVATE bankers that own the PRIVATE corporation that was deceptively named the Federal Reserve. Educate yourself on it and you might drop the partisan crap that those in power want us useful idiots to do."
  • PBJN71 Ken Joh... 2012/01/08 19:12:14
    PBJN71
    +2
    Thanks Ken for telling the truth!!!!!
  • PBJN71 Kevin S... 2012/01/08 19:08:28
    PBJN71
    +2
    You know ignorance is still running rampant in this county with he said and she said bull crap like this. It's time for people to stop passing blame and start taking responsibility for themselves and take the appropriate action!!!!!
  • Ken Joh... brian.p... 2012/01/08 01:04:39
    Ken Johnson
    +5
    Wake up bud. Turn off your TV and turn on your mind. Both sides are employed by the PRIVATE bankers that own the PRIVATE corporation that was deceptively named the Federal Reserve. Educate yourself on it and you might drop the partisan crap that those in power want us useful idiots to do.
  • KingofC... brian.p... 2012/07/29 04:09:03
    KingofConquerors22
    +1
    best he could? Bush wasn't any good, but Obama finished what bush started. He has gone mad waging war in the middle east in support of AIPAC's agenda
  • rszivek 2012/01/07 18:23:56 (edited)
    rszivek
    +3
    Fell free to look up Supreme court docket # 10-678 It's a mute point.
  • Ken Joh... rszivek 2012/01/08 01:06:50
    Ken Johnson
    +1
    Mute or moot?
  • revdaalkaholik 2012/01/07 16:46:02
  • Angel revdaal... 2012/01/07 19:33:36 (edited)
    Angel
    +4
    In case you havent noticed Obama is Muslim, that alone makes him a THREAT to the US. Has nothing to do with the black race! But of course if you have nothing intelligent to say, then black ppl always pull the race card!!!! Get over yourself, that is Not the issue! Every person running for Presidency is subject to a background check! White,black,red,or yellow!! Being black does not make Obama exempt from Americans questioning his right to be able to hold the office of President!! And you as an American citizen should demand that proof!! But because you are black, instead of thinking for yourself, you make it a "race issue".
  • Arthur ... Angel 2012/01/07 21:35:41
    Arthur Clough
    +2
    He is a Christian born to an inactive Muslim father and inactive Baptist mother. You are not born Muslim. That's silly. Your stereotype of Muslims as a threat to the US is like saying that all Christians are like the KKK.
  • hijinx60 Arthur ... 2012/01/07 22:15:54
    hijinx60
    +5
    His mother was not an "uinactive Baptist". She was an active communist who even traverled to New York just to meet Castro when he spoke at the UN>
  • Arthur ... hijinx60 2012/01/07 22:47:43
    Arthur Clough
    +5
    It's well documented. By the way, communism isn't a religion but their is a Baptist church. Your contrast doesn't make any sense. You just skirted the supposition that he was a Muslim, which was the point. He isn't a Muslim. That is two bit conspiracy theory blather.
  • T MAC Arthur ... 2012/01/09 01:04:47
    T MAC
    +3
    Arthur, do you know Obama personally? Did you grow up with him? Do you know anyone who did? I would like to meet someone who did, wouldn't you. Let us not per sum we know who Obama really is. I submit we don't know for sure. We can say that we can go and meet any of the childhood friends of the last 5 presidents. I will also say that no one has been able to prove that he is who he says he is. You can call it a conspiracy if you want buy the facts are the facts.
  • Arthur ... T MAC 2012/01/09 01:38:27
    Arthur Clough
    +1
    I believe in a free America where each person declares his own religion and that a person's religion cannot be chosen by rabid conspiracy theorists. Are you suggesting that he lets Michelle run around without an Arabic headrest and that he eats pork? Did you know that eating pork in the Muslim world means banishment from their heaven? Your proclamation that he is Muslim is baseless. He doesn't meet even the minimum criteria of being Muslim
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  • T MAC Arthur ... 2012/01/09 02:26:32
    T MAC
    Like I asked above do you know him personally? Do you know anyone that grew up with him? Do you know anyone who knows someone who knew him as a child? Because if you don't than how do you know that he is what he says he is. Have you heard of the terrorists that go to foreign countries and do what ever they must to fit in and look and act as the local do? Did you know that pornographic material and alcohol is against the Islamic religion too but most of the Muslims that I met in Iraq showed me their porno and offer me alcohol when I was in Iraq. I have no proof that Obama is not who he says he is nor do you. The thing is I don't care if he is a Muslim or not, Kenyan or American, there too many questions.
  • Fashion... Arthur ... 2012/01/15 20:22:24
    Fashionable60s
    Arthur, you do not know Indonesian Muslims, obviously. A lot of prominent Muslim families, do eat pork, in the privacy of their homes. They are not afraid of going to hell, as they do it privately and be seen in the local mosques on Fridays. Yes, tons of hypocrisy even in the Arab world where the sheiks drink alcohol and whore around with white women.
  • Fashion... Arthur ... 2012/01/15 20:34:58
    Fashionable60s
    Arthur,

    A majority of Muslim women in Indonesia do NOT wear hijabs or abayas. It is a personal choice. You just stereotype all Muslims like the Wahabbis of Saudi Arabia. Indonesian Muslims even if they practice do not necessarily follow the made up rules by some imams. There is nothing in the Quran that declare a Muslim woman must wear a hijab. It is a simple tradition that one can follow or not, unless one lives in Saudi Arabia.
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