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Official 9-11 myth was never believable!

irish 2011/11/28 15:37:12

9/11 - Hard Facts, Hard Truth



Reframing the Story











"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.

Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."


— Arthur Schopenhauer


All of us - individuals and nations - have fictitious myths that we
create, believe, and weave our identities into. We have all invented
some aspect of ourselves, or the world, that we desperately want to
believe, often despite ample evidence pointing to the absurdity and
falseness of the created myth. This myth creation is some kind of
defensive mechanism, used to evoke a sense of security in an insecure
world, utilized to invoke a sense of personal worth in an often brutal
and uncaring world. And while the psychology behind this myth making is
an interesting and worthy topic for another essay, the principal
subject of this paper is the fact that we have dramatically animated and
amplified one of these myths. And it has metastasized into an out of
control force that is wreaking havoc in our own country, and across the
globe.



On the morning of September 11th, 2001, something tragic and terrible
took place in New York City, Washington D.C., and rural Pennsylvania.
Unfortunately, the actual facts, context, and details of what it was
that truly took place that day have been swallowed by the force and
momentum of what is now perhaps the largest American myth that exists;
i.e. the story that 19 Arab hijackers, under the exclusive direction of
Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden, and fueled by a religiously driven
fundamental hatred and jealousy of American values, blind-sided and
plunged an unforeseen dagger into the heart of American democracy,
freedom, and innocence.



What follows in this essay is not a promotion, nor a defense, of any
kind of 'conspiracy theory' regarding the events of September 11, 2001.
It is, instead, a presentation of facts, inconsistencies, and
disturbing questions uncovered in 2 years of persistent and continuous
research that will reveal the absurdity of a myth that is too
self-delusional not to expose. It will reveal how the hard facts
before, during, and after that now infamous day stand in stark
opposition to the 'official' story and myth of 9/11 that has been spun
and created by certain elements within the U.S. government. And it will
consider why the easily revealed facts exposing U.S. government
complicity in the mass-murder of thousands of its citizens have been
comprehensively ignored by the American public, and wholly
uninvestigated by the American media. That this hard truth may be
difficult to swallow, in light of the 9/11 myth that has grown so
immense around that day, bears no significance upon its efficacy and
validity.








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  • DeeB cinbadl 2011/11/29 01:34:38
    DeeB
    +6
    Do you think the birthers are nuts? There is just as much evidence against Obama as there is for the tyranical government doing 9/11. You don't know it but more people in America than not, know who really did that and it was not arabs. You are in total denial. You are embarassing me, women are supposed to be smarter. Anyone that sees all the evidence of the Bush connection should absolutely come away knowing the truth. I do not believe in coincidence.
  • irish DeeB 2011/11/29 01:41:54
    irish
    +4
    excellent!
  • Incognito DeeB 2011/11/29 18:34:43
    Incognito
    +4
    Perhaps cinbadl needs to see the movie Loose Change 9-11.
    loose change 9 11
  • DeeB Incognito 2011/12/05 00:08:46
    DeeB
    +3
    That is exactly what did it for me!! It's a real eye opener!
  • V~POTL~... cinbadl 2011/11/29 00:32:31
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I share your skepticism of the skepticism. There are mysterious anomalies in the government explanation, but I find it hard to believe that the biggest coverup in the history of the country was smoothly handed off from Bush to Obama. If it was, we have much bigger fish to fry than 9/11.

    For a guy who literally made a career out of blaming Bush, I find it hard to believe Obama would fail to expose a Bush-sponsored coverup (unless of course, there was no such thing). Instead, Obama goes the extra mile to ensure that UBL is fish food.

    Whatever the truth is, I think we can safely assume both Bush and Obama know for sure. The rest of us can only guess. The 9/11 conspiracy theories had a lot more wind in their sails before Obama validated the official explanation.
  • irish V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 00:36:35
    irish
    +6
    apparently you fail to realize that whether its bush or bo they both answer to the same higher powers that be. dees  2 wings of the same bird
  • V~POTL~... irish 2011/11/29 03:16:13
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Given the general ineptitude of both Bush AND Obama, it's still hard to believe they can work together as flawlessly as Batman and Robin (or vice versa).
  • irish V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 12:58:15
    irish
    +3
    why do you think that what you think you know about them is how they really are?
  • Incognito V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 18:47:29 (edited)
  • \V/ V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 00:45:53
  • irish \V/ 2011/11/29 00:52:30
    irish
    +5
    \V/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this site i found is fantastic!
  • \V/ irish 2011/11/29 01:01:54
  • irish \V/ 2011/11/29 01:02:47
    irish
    +4
    ahh,thanks V!
  • ConLibF... \V/ 2011/11/29 01:19:35
    ConLibFraud
    +5
    Not coincidence. Can you believe all the phucking sheeple who bought the bin laden kill without any evidence. Disgusting!
  • irish ConLibF... 2011/11/29 01:20:55
    irish
    +4
    that was truly appalling.
  • ConLibF... irish 2011/11/29 01:30:10
    ConLibFraud
    +5
    Made me sick of the American wimpy sheeple. They deserve what is coming.
  • Brian V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 00:50:21 (edited)
    Brian
    +5
    That's right 911 was a conspiracy.........




  • Incognito Brian 2011/12/01 16:56:29
    Incognito
    +3
    That video is a classic! LMAO..
    CAT LAUGHING 9 11 highjackers bin lauden
  • Brian Incognito 2011/12/01 21:41:29 (edited)
    Brian
    +3
    I am glad you liked it I had to watch it again! lol!
  • Incognito Brian 2011/12/02 15:37:45
    Incognito
    +3
    I have watched that video three times more, it is BRILLIANT!
    GENUIS KITTY GENUIS KITTY
  • Brian Incognito 2011/12/03 21:33:22
    Brian
    +2
    It is to funny!
  • DeeB V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 01:39:57 (edited)
    DeeB
    +6
    He doesn't because they are both working for the new world order and they won't let him. You don't really think that idiot runs this country now do you? He does what he is told just like Bush did and all the rest before them.


  • DeeB V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 01:42:58
    DeeB
    +5
    Or here is one for ya, who blew up the Oklahoma City building? McVeigh with his little van? Think again.
  • V~POTL~... DeeB 2011/11/29 03:23:52
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    An interesting clip, but what is the motivation? The whole McVeigh/Nichols story was quite an embarrassment to the government; it indirectly acknowledged the militia movement and some of their key talking points. As far as government cover stories go, the McVeigh/Nichols explanation would not have been my first choice. Does this somehow link Clinton to the 9/11 dream team of Bush and Obama?
  • DeeB V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 03:52:09
    DeeB
    +6
    You Betcha! To me it further proves just what they are capable of.
  • DeeB V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 04:05:22
    DeeB
    +5
    Have you ever read up on Operation Northwoods?
  • V~POTL~... DeeB 2011/11/29 04:43:41
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Yes, but I'm not sure what benefit the government expected to get from reformulating a CIA plot against Castro in the 1960's. The results of 9/11 don't seem to be worth it. And it's hard to believe operational security is so good that nothing leaked. I saw Zeitgeist and Loose Change, and they all offer various theories. But it never gets to the point where someone with inside knowledge spills the beans.

    You can't employ as many people as these operations require without someone talking. If Nixon couldn't get away with Watergate, it's hard to believe a series of Presidents from opposing parties could work collaboratively on something 1000 times the size.
  • irish V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 13:01:09
    irish
    +5
    the one hand doesn't need to know what the other is doing. and there have been leaks and whistle blowers and all denounced or silenced.
  • V~POTL~... irish 2011/11/29 13:38:51
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    I think you underestimate the difficulty of getting a large group to agree on a course of action, much less perform the task and then agree to cover it up later. The larger the group, the more problematic the black op becomes.

    The government kinda/sorta did that in the JFK assassination, but that was a much smaller operation. And even then, the witnesses and the clues started leaking from day one.

    A 9/11 conspiracy almost made sense as something a single President could put together, but I doubt anyone has figured out how to squelch 200+ years of bipartisan bickering -- for a false flag operation of all things.
  • irish V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 13:42:13
    irish
    +4
    you under estimate the govt terrorists completely.

    if you had read my post you would have an answer to that.

    "Was the involvement of just too many people required to pull off the so-called 'conspiracy theory' posited by the 9/11 Truth momvement? Defenders of the 'official story' say yes. They claim the theory is too far-fetched because it is a plan that would have had to involve far too many people, far too many 'conspirators' to so smoothly have been pulled off. The idea being that at some point one of the 'conspirators' would have talked and/or come forward and/or refused to participate, etc. Some debunking websites and papers even claim the conspiracy would have needed the involvement of hundreds of people all coordinated not only operationally, but in their deviousness as well. And at first glance, this seems a reasonable point to make."

    "But there are ultimately two main problems with the argument. Firstly, it does not in any way answer any of the hard, relevant evidence relating to the case and narrative of 9/11 covered in this paper that does point to some kind of conspiracy. Instead, it is simply a stated notion of disbelief. And secondly, there did not, in actual fact, need to be that many people involved with the overall vision, of every detail and every implic...
    you under estimate the govt terrorists completely.

    if you had read my post you would have an answer to that.

    "Was the involvement of just too many people required to pull off the so-called 'conspiracy theory' posited by the 9/11 Truth momvement? Defenders of the 'official story' say yes. They claim the theory is too far-fetched because it is a plan that would have had to involve far too many people, far too many 'conspirators' to so smoothly have been pulled off. The idea being that at some point one of the 'conspirators' would have talked and/or come forward and/or refused to participate, etc. Some debunking websites and papers even claim the conspiracy would have needed the involvement of hundreds of people all coordinated not only operationally, but in their deviousness as well. And at first glance, this seems a reasonable point to make."

    "But there are ultimately two main problems with the argument. Firstly, it does not in any way answer any of the hard, relevant evidence relating to the case and narrative of 9/11 covered in this paper that does point to some kind of conspiracy. Instead, it is simply a stated notion of disbelief. And secondly, there did not, in actual fact, need to be that many people involved with the overall vision, of every detail and every implication of the plan. There only needed to be a select few people at the top of the chain of command who knew exactly what was being carried out, where and how to create confusion, and why. The military and intelligence community is made up of people accustomed to following orders, without question. And many researchers who have spent time in the CIA and military intelligence have stepped forward into the 9/11 truth movement to explain the notion of 'compartmentalization'. A phenomenon and strategy that explains why not very many people need be in on the overall plan and execution of a covert operation for it to be successful."
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  • V~POTL~... irish 2011/11/29 19:12:09
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    As more and more players get dragged into it and new facts are revealed, the theory has to either get more and more complicated to encompass all of the known facts OR there must be a simple explanation that achieves roughly the same end game with a lot less speculation. Statistically, the simplest theories tend to be the most accurate.

    What if the Mossad knew about the Al Qaeda plan in the early stages? What would they do? Probably tell the CIA. What advice would the CIA give Bush? "It looks like we have a group of useful idiots prepared to self-fund and execute Operation Northwoods for us. All we have to do is sit back and watch. Ultimately, we have to fight radical Islam at some point, with or without these jokers in Allah's waiting room. This is an opportunity to set the agenda on our own terms."

    If the government knew in advance that the WTC was going to be hit, wouldn't it make sense to prepare for demolition? And if we knew which part of the Pentagon was going to be hit, would it be helpful to make sure that section of the building was vacant?

    Maybe the government was better prepared than anyone gave them credit for. And maybe that's the problem.

    If Bush knew, does Obama know that he knew? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the enemy is exactly who the government claims ...

    As more and more players get dragged into it and new facts are revealed, the theory has to either get more and more complicated to encompass all of the known facts OR there must be a simple explanation that achieves roughly the same end game with a lot less speculation. Statistically, the simplest theories tend to be the most accurate.

    What if the Mossad knew about the Al Qaeda plan in the early stages? What would they do? Probably tell the CIA. What advice would the CIA give Bush? "It looks like we have a group of useful idiots prepared to self-fund and execute Operation Northwoods for us. All we have to do is sit back and watch. Ultimately, we have to fight radical Islam at some point, with or without these jokers in Allah's waiting room. This is an opportunity to set the agenda on our own terms."

    If the government knew in advance that the WTC was going to be hit, wouldn't it make sense to prepare for demolition? And if we knew which part of the Pentagon was going to be hit, would it be helpful to make sure that section of the building was vacant?

    Maybe the government was better prepared than anyone gave them credit for. And maybe that's the problem.

    If Bush knew, does Obama know that he knew? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the enemy is exactly who the government claims they are, and maybe the end game is really the same regardless of who knew what and when they knew it.

    You can get the theory this far without CIA martyrs, drones, missiles, or a conspiracy spanning across several decades. Maybe the biggest secret of all is that the spooks did their job. If that were the case, would the government be dumb enough to admit it?
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  • irish V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 21:53:42
    irish
    +4
    1st of all,al qaeda is cia ,
    fema was in nyc at pier 92 24 hours in advance,how convenient.
    to many coincidences . read the article ,the whole article. then get back to us.
  • V~POTL~... irish 2011/11/29 22:41:47
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Al Qaeda is FORMER CIA. After all, it was Carter who hired them back in the late 1970's to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. But with the Soviets gone, nobody needed a bunch of pseudo-religoius mercenaries to fight them. I think that pretty much ended the business relationship with the CIA. If they still worked for the US, why not turn them loose where they would do some good? Like Iran, for example.

    Business was bad, until someone came along with the desire and the cash to fight Al Qaeda's former employer. Who might be Al Qaeda's sponsor-du-jour? Take your pick: Iran, China, Russia, Pakistan, Venezuela.
  • irish V~POTL~... 2011/11/29 22:52:20
    irish
    +2
    wrong. the cia is still working with them. they helped them in libya recently and are taking them to syria now.
    iran is not the problem but israel is ,definitely.

    their sponsor is and has been the u.s. and great britain.
  • DeeB V~POTL~... 2011/12/05 00:12:23
    DeeB
    +3
    Sorry I so disagree. Too many witnesses have died after speaking out. And they don't let one person know what another is doing. And they make sure to have things on the people that do know what's going on.
  • Incognito V~POTL~... 2011/12/05 16:02:46
    Incognito
    +2
    The key is compartmentalization. The majority of the people involved just do their jobs and have no idea what the ruling elite have in mind.
    illuminati pyramid
  • irish Incognito 2011/12/05 16:08:20
    irish
    +2
    thank you. this is a concept people just don't get . or else they use it to discredit. it doesn't work if you can think. something they never bank on.
  • Brian V~POTL~... 2011/12/01 21:50:36
    Brian
    +3
    All 3 and yes 911 was a conspiracy.........





  • Incognito V~POTL~... 2011/12/05 15:48:04
    Incognito
    +2
    I think your last question just said it all. The motivation being more control and power for the government over the people.
    oklahoma bombing
  • Incognito DeeB 2011/12/05 15:38:20
    Incognito
    +2
    The government must think that they're "The Bomb." (Pun intended) Can we say cover-up?! It looks like the works of devils in the White House.

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