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FLAG OFFICERS CASHIERED FOR REFUSING TO STAND DOWN ON BENGHAZI MILITARY RESCUE ATTEMPT!

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/10/30 03:44:57
Click on link and be prepared to become very angry.It seems that several high-ranking military leaders refused to 'stand down' when asked to not to respond to cries for help from the SEALS defending the American Consulate in Bengazi.And for these officers refusing to stop launching rescue efforts.These officers were 'relieved on the spot' from higher ups at the Pentagon!

http://www.markmatter.com/2012/10/flag-officers-cashiered-for...
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  • joe keeney 2012/12/21 12:01:35
    joe keeney
    Hillary now being coached by bill in her fake recovering time. How to look at the people and lie. They got to get her sobered up.
  • David Hussey 2012/12/21 08:12:38
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/12/21 03:52:03
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    It appears that Fox News falsehoods about Benghazi have been definitively debunked:

    [QUOTE]
    WASHINGTON -- An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September.

    Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall.

    The new report, by an independent Accountability Review Board established by the State Department, concluded that two bureaus at the department -- Near East Affairs and Diplomacy Security -- failed to properly recognize the rising dangers of Eastern Libya despite the lack of any specific threats, and neglected the growing concerns of security analysts on the ground about the capabilities of the local Libyan guard force.

    The result, the report said, was a "security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

    But while the unclassified v...











































    It appears that Fox News falsehoods about Benghazi have been definitively debunked:

    [QUOTE]
    WASHINGTON -- An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September.

    Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall.

    The new report, by an independent Accountability Review Board established by the State Department, concluded that two bureaus at the department -- Near East Affairs and Diplomacy Security -- failed to properly recognize the rising dangers of Eastern Libya despite the lack of any specific threats, and neglected the growing concerns of security analysts on the ground about the capabilities of the local Libyan guard force.

    The result, the report said, was a "security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

    But while the unclassified version of the report, which was released Tuesday night, is undeniably harsh in its analysis of the State Department's management ahead of the attack, it also appears to undermine a number of the more outlandish charges made during the heat of the uproar this fall.

    For instance, while many figures -- led, in large part, by the news analysts at Fox News -- suggested that the administration had opted to watch the crisis unfold rather than send military reinforcements, the report found "no evidence of undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington."

    Many critics of the administration had raised question about why a team of specially trained military operators had been dispatched to an airfield in Italy but not, apparently, sent to help fend off the attack.


    Instead, the report concluded that the response by all agencies involved was "timely and appropriate," and despite speculation to the contrary, "there simply was not enough time given the speed of the attacks for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."

    Another accusation rebutted by the report was the notion that senior-level officials had in some way refused to permit CIA operatives working out of a nearby annex to travel to the main compound to assist in repelling the attack.

    That detail, first reported by Fox News, was not correct, the report said.

    Instead, a "team leader" at the annex had "decided on his own" to delay leaving the facility briefly to see if local security elements would arrive with reinforcements. After "a brief delay," and determining that they would not, the team leader made the decision to move some units toward the compound, the report said.

    It is also not clear from the report if the attackers of the compound were aware that Ambassador Stevens was there on the night of the attack, or if he was their target.

    The night before the attack, the report notes, local media turned up at an event that the embassy had believed to be an undisclosed meeting with the Benghazi City Council, meaning that at least some people in town were aware of Stevens' visit.

    But amid the frenzy of the attack on Sept. 11, the report found that Stevens did not appear to have been captured by the militants at any point, despite early photographs that appeared to show his body being dragged through the streets.

    Instead, the report said that "to the best knowledge of the Board" he was delivered, unresponsive, to a local hospital by six "good Samaritans" who were among the hordes of attackers. Local doctors spent approximately 45 minutes attempting to resucitate Stevens before concluding he was dead.

    The report also upholds much of the basic outline of the course of events on the ground in Benghazi as described by the State Department in a briefing for reporters that took place almost a month after the attack, and adds some striking details of bravery.

    Two of the security guards accompanying Ambassador Stevens were badly wounded during the attack, the report says, noting that one suffered "a severe laceration" to his forearm while repeatedly entering a smoke-filled room in search of the ambassador, and the other was found vomiting and losing consciousness from smoke inhalation.

    There were other smaller moments of bravery recognized by the report, including a nurse at the embassy in Tripoli who provided essential medical assistance to the evacuees from Benghazi, and a consular officer who donated blood that night to help save the life a of a colleague.

    On the whole, however, these people on the ground were failed by their bosses in Washington, the report said, and a clunky bureaucracy that failed to recognize and adapt to a changing security situation in Eastern Libya, allowing the ambassador to travel to a place where the local security measures had repeatedly proven insufficient.

    The report also acknowledged that with a vastly increased need for security at embassies and consulates in war zones, the Bureau of Diplomatic Security has been "stretched to the limit as never before."

    A consistently limited budget imposed by Congress, the report added, "had the effect of conditioning a few State Department managers to favor restricting the use of resources as a general orientation," which helps explain why the local security officials' calls for more staff was not immediately heeded.

    And while the report does not focus on the more heated controversy about how the Obama administration opted to share information with the public about the raid, it does make clear that the initial claim that the attack was simply an outgrowth of a larger protest is not correct. There was no protest outside the compound, the report states.

    In a letter accompanying the release of the report, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said her department was accepting all 24 of the report's recommendations.
    [END QUOTE http://www.huffingtonpost.com... ]

    It will be interesting to see how Fox tries to spin this report, especially the parts debunking Griffin's falsehoods!

    The report itself is posted at http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

    "The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth." - Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
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  • Stevern... Kaleoku... 2012/12/21 04:56:21
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Proudly posted by Frank Marshal Davis' (and most likely Barack's half-brother) son,Kaleokualoha!

     Frank Marshal Davis
  • Kaleoku... Stevern... 2012/12/21 05:54:42
    Kaleokualoha
    More red herrings, Grasshoppa? Nice tap dance!

    tap

    Your markmatter.com story is false. General Ham is still the commander of Africa Command (see http://www.africom.mil/GenCar... ). The report reveals that NOBODY was told to "stand down."

    Perhaps if you use reputable new sources rather than virtual tabloids, your postings may have more credibility.

    "The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth" - Cicero
  • David H... Stevern... 2012/12/21 08:07:58
    David Hussey
    +1
    LOL... they all look the same to you, don't they?
  • Stevern... David H... 2012/12/23 04:03:48 (edited)
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Not really,Obama stills looks more like his 'baby daddy' FMD (lips,general shape of the head,eyes,height,etc...) then his namesake Barack Sr.

    dreams of my real father

  • David H... Stevern... 2012/12/23 05:00:08
    David Hussey
    As he should wouldn't you say?
  • Stevern... David H... 2012/12/23 05:13:31
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    So you agree that Frank Marshal Davis is BHO's real father
    (AKA a sperm donor)?
  • David H... Stevern... 2012/12/23 05:19:37
    David Hussey
    No, I thought you were posting a photo of Obama's biological father of record. The name meant nothing to me.
  • Soundstorm Kaleoku... 2012/12/21 09:12:03
    Soundstorm
    +1
    You're making yourself look awfully desperate to be repeatedly spamming your second hand talking points.
  • Kaleoku... Soundstorm 2012/12/21 17:30:07 (edited)
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Shooting the messenger, Grasshoppa? I post it everywhere RWNJs need enlightenment.

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." - Proverbs 1:7
  • Soundstorm Kaleoku... 2012/12/28 01:08:08
    Soundstorm
    +1
    You're no messenger. Just an establishment shill with nothing on his plate borrowing other people's words.
  • phil white 2012/11/05 00:27:40
    phil white
    +2
    Here's an interesting take on the sacking of Admiral Gaoeutte.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/...
  • Kaleoku... phil white 2012/12/21 06:16:12
    Kaleokualoha
    Totally fascinating!
  • David H... Kaleoku... 2012/12/21 08:16:14
    David Hussey
    +1
    Indeed!
  • David H... phil white 2012/12/21 08:18:32
    David Hussey
    Thanks for posting that link Phil. An intriguing scenario, like something straight out of Ludlum's "The Aquitaine Progression".
  • Jasmine 2012/11/03 15:00:57
    Jasmine
    +2
    THIS NEEDS TO BE POSTED UNDER FICTION.
  • David H... Jasmine 2012/12/21 08:06:52
    David Hussey
    Propaganda might be an even better category for this kind of garbage Jasmine.
  • ProudProgressive 2012/11/02 03:44:26
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Don't be a bigger moron than you have to be. Not only were those officers not removed for refusing to stand down, THERE WAS NO ORDER TO STAND DOWN! Don't take my word for it. Just ask General David Petraeus, the current Director of the CIA.
  • Soundstorm ProudPr... 2012/11/03 08:21:47
    Soundstorm
    +1
    There was an order to stand down but Gen. Petraeus is not accepting the CIA taking the blame for it. He specifically said, "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ” The CIA's role is to gather information on the ground and report to Washington. Only Obama has the authority to order a stand down. And he remains silent while allowing the CIA to take the fall for what happened rather than own up publicly for his own actions.
    The more you make excuses for Obama the bigger a moron you make of yourself.
  • ProudPr... Soundstorm 2012/11/03 14:55:18
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    There was no order to stand down. Do yourself a favor and look at Fox and the other sites that are claiming there was, and try to objectively evaluate what they base the claim on. It is always either "anonymous sources" or "someone close to the CIA says" or there's even one where a former CIA officer who has been out of the agency for seven years who "KNOWS" the "real" story.

    If one is preconditioned to reject the very concept that this President has ever done anything right, these "sources" suffice. But given the choice of believing anonymous reports from sources with a documented history of lying (like Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, WorldNutDaily and the like) or believing the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary o f Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Director of the CIA, I can't see how anyone can still cling to this claim.
  • Soundstorm ProudPr... 2012/12/21 08:32:06
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Anonymous sources are only fine with you when liberal media sources cite them.
  • Kaleoku... Soundstorm 2012/12/21 06:17:40
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Proud Progressive is absolutely correct. It appears that Fox News falsehoods about Benghazi have been definitively debunked:

    [QUOTE]
    WASHINGTON -- An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September.

    Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall.

    The new report, by an independent Accountability Review Board established by the State Department, concluded that two bureaus at the department -- Near East Affairs and Diplomacy Security -- failed to properly recognize the rising dangers of Eastern Libya despite the lack of any specific threats, and neglected the growing concerns of security analysts on the ground about the capabilities of the local Libyan guard force.

    The result, the report said, was a "security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

    ...











































    Proud Progressive is absolutely correct. It appears that Fox News falsehoods about Benghazi have been definitively debunked:

    [QUOTE]
    WASHINGTON -- An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September.

    Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall.

    The new report, by an independent Accountability Review Board established by the State Department, concluded that two bureaus at the department -- Near East Affairs and Diplomacy Security -- failed to properly recognize the rising dangers of Eastern Libya despite the lack of any specific threats, and neglected the growing concerns of security analysts on the ground about the capabilities of the local Libyan guard force.

    The result, the report said, was a "security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

    But while the unclassified version of the report, which was released Tuesday night, is undeniably harsh in its analysis of the State Department's management ahead of the attack, it also appears to undermine a number of the more outlandish charges made during the heat of the uproar this fall.

    For instance, while many figures -- led, in large part, by the news analysts at Fox News -- suggested that the administration had opted to watch the crisis unfold rather than send military reinforcements, the report found "no evidence of undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington."

    Many critics of the administration had raised question about why a team of specially trained military operators had been dispatched to an airfield in Italy but not, apparently, sent to help fend off the attack.


    Instead, the report concluded that the response by all agencies involved was "timely and appropriate," and despite speculation to the contrary, "there simply was not enough time given the speed of the attacks for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."

    Another accusation rebutted by the report was the notion that senior-level officials had in some way refused to permit CIA operatives working out of a nearby annex to travel to the main compound to assist in repelling the attack.

    That detail, first reported by Fox News, was not correct, the report said.

    Instead, a "team leader" at the annex had "decided on his own" to delay leaving the facility briefly to see if local security elements would arrive with reinforcements. After "a brief delay," and determining that they would not, the team leader made the decision to move some units toward the compound, the report said.

    It is also not clear from the report if the attackers of the compound were aware that Ambassador Stevens was there on the night of the attack, or if he was their target.

    The night before the attack, the report notes, local media turned up at an event that the embassy had believed to be an undisclosed meeting with the Benghazi City Council, meaning that at least some people in town were aware of Stevens' visit.

    But amid the frenzy of the attack on Sept. 11, the report found that Stevens did not appear to have been captured by the militants at any point, despite early photographs that appeared to show his body being dragged through the streets.

    Instead, the report said that "to the best knowledge of the Board" he was delivered, unresponsive, to a local hospital by six "good Samaritans" who were among the hordes of attackers. Local doctors spent approximately 45 minutes attempting to resucitate Stevens before concluding he was dead.

    The report also upholds much of the basic outline of the course of events on the ground in Benghazi as described by the State Department in a briefing for reporters that took place almost a month after the attack, and adds some striking details of bravery.

    Two of the security guards accompanying Ambassador Stevens were badly wounded during the attack, the report says, noting that one suffered "a severe laceration" to his forearm while repeatedly entering a smoke-filled room in search of the ambassador, and the other was found vomiting and losing consciousness from smoke inhalation.

    There were other smaller moments of bravery recognized by the report, including a nurse at the embassy in Tripoli who provided essential medical assistance to the evacuees from Benghazi, and a consular officer who donated blood that night to help save the life a of a colleague.

    On the whole, however, these people on the ground were failed by their bosses in Washington, the report said, and a clunky bureaucracy that failed to recognize and adapt to a changing security situation in Eastern Libya, allowing the ambassador to travel to a place where the local security measures had repeatedly proven insufficient.

    The report also acknowledged that with a vastly increased need for security at embassies and consulates in war zones, the Bureau of Diplomatic Security has been "stretched to the limit as never before."

    A consistently limited budget imposed by Congress, the report added, "had the effect of conditioning a few State Department managers to favor restricting the use of resources as a general orientation," which helps explain why the local security officials' calls for more staff was not immediately heeded.

    And while the report does not focus on the more heated controversy about how the Obama administration opted to share information with the public about the raid, it does make clear that the initial claim that the attack was simply an outgrowth of a larger protest is not correct. There was no protest outside the compound, the report states.

    In a letter accompanying the release of the report, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said her department was accepting all 24 of the report's recommendations.
    [END QUOTE http://www.huffingtonpost.com... ]

    It will be interesting to see how Fox tries to spin this report, especially the parts debunking Griffin's falsehoods!

    The report itself is posted at http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

    "The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth." - Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
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  • Soundstorm Kaleoku... 2012/12/21 08:29:19
    Soundstorm
    +1
    You don't think the top people in the reelected Obama administration might have busied themselves in the time available with covering their behinds, do you? And all wrapped up in time for Christmas.
  • Kaleoku... Soundstorm 2012/12/21 17:31:19
    Kaleokualoha
    Some Sodaheads seem to suffer from asinine assumptions that the White House is routinely involved in security for diplomatic facilities. Such specious speculation is as delusional as ASSumptions that the White House is routinely involved in security standards for military facilities. This would be micromanagement at its worst, akin to a state governor managing courthouse security or the highway patrol.

    On the contrary, diplomatic security is routinely managed by professional Special Agents of the Diplomatic Security Service, not political appointees such as the Secretary of State:

    [QUOTE]
    The Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security is in charge of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and the Office of Foreign Missions (OFM). Under the Assistant Secretary of State are several Deputy Assistant Secretaries; the Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary is the Director for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). The DSS is an organization within the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS). The Director for the Diplomatic Security Service, who is the top ranking, active Special Agent in the service, leads a force of Special Agents, Diplomatic Couriers, Security Engineering Officers, and Security Technical Specialists. Special Agents are sometimes referred to as "DS Agents" or "DSS Ag...


    Some Sodaheads seem to suffer from asinine assumptions that the White House is routinely involved in security for diplomatic facilities. Such specious speculation is as delusional as ASSumptions that the White House is routinely involved in security standards for military facilities. This would be micromanagement at its worst, akin to a state governor managing courthouse security or the highway patrol.

    On the contrary, diplomatic security is routinely managed by professional Special Agents of the Diplomatic Security Service, not political appointees such as the Secretary of State:

    [QUOTE]
    The Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security is in charge of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and the Office of Foreign Missions (OFM). Under the Assistant Secretary of State are several Deputy Assistant Secretaries; the Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary is the Director for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). The DSS is an organization within the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS). The Director for the Diplomatic Security Service, who is the top ranking, active Special Agent in the service, leads a force of Special Agents, Diplomatic Couriers, Security Engineering Officers, and Security Technical Specialists. Special Agents are sometimes referred to as "DS Agents" or "DSS Agents." Both terms are used interchangeably within the agency and other organizations.
    [END QUOTE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ]

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." - Proverbs 1:7
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  • Soundstorm Kaleoku... 2012/12/28 01:12:01
    Soundstorm
    +1
    What's this? The infallible authority of Wikipedia? Are you always this gullible or is it only when a Democrat is in the White House?
  • Kaleoku... Soundstorm 2012/12/28 02:00:11
    Kaleokualoha
    Wikipedia provides a full list of references for Wikiphobes and other fools:

    References

    ^ Information on protection work from the State Department official web site Retrieved on July 16, 2007
    ^ Rewards for Justice official web site Retrieved on January 31, 2009
    ^ http://www.dssaa.org/catalog/...
    ^ Book: Allen Dulles by James Srodes, Page 83 ^ Book: The Armies of Ignorance: The Rise of the American Intelligence Empire by William R. Corson, 1977; Page 74
    ^ Sources: Washington Post, Sept 7, 2004, State's Security Bureau Takes on Expanded Role, Washington Post article by Robin Wright; (Book) 2002 Relentless Pursuit: The DSS and the Manhunt for the Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Samuel M. Katz.
    ^ Allen Dulles by James Srodes, Page 83
    ^ Book: The Armies of Ignorance: The Rise of the American Intelligence Empire by William R. Corson, 1977; Page 74
    ^ Sources: Washington Post, Sept 7, 2004, State's Security Bureau Takes on Expanded Role, Washington Post article by Robin Wright; (Book) 2002 Relentless Pursuit: The DSS and the Manhunt for the Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Samuel M. Katz.
    ^ http://www.state.gov/m/ds/rls... U.S. Department of State DS Pictorial History Photo 5 of 192 - 1916: U.S. Secretary of State Robert Lansing creates an informal �Secret Intelligence Bureau� to examine information of a secret natur...














    Wikipedia provides a full list of references for Wikiphobes and other fools:

    References

    ^ Information on protection work from the State Department official web site Retrieved on July 16, 2007
    ^ Rewards for Justice official web site Retrieved on January 31, 2009
    ^ http://www.dssaa.org/catalog/...
    ^ Book: Allen Dulles by James Srodes, Page 83 ^ Book: The Armies of Ignorance: The Rise of the American Intelligence Empire by William R. Corson, 1977; Page 74
    ^ Sources: Washington Post, Sept 7, 2004, State's Security Bureau Takes on Expanded Role, Washington Post article by Robin Wright; (Book) 2002 Relentless Pursuit: The DSS and the Manhunt for the Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Samuel M. Katz.
    ^ Allen Dulles by James Srodes, Page 83
    ^ Book: The Armies of Ignorance: The Rise of the American Intelligence Empire by William R. Corson, 1977; Page 74
    ^ Sources: Washington Post, Sept 7, 2004, State's Security Bureau Takes on Expanded Role, Washington Post article by Robin Wright; (Book) 2002 Relentless Pursuit: The DSS and the Manhunt for the Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Samuel M. Katz.
    ^ http://www.state.gov/m/ds/rls... U.S. Department of State DS Pictorial History Photo 5 of 192 - 1916: U.S. Secretary of State Robert Lansing creates an informal �Secret Intelligence Bureau� to examine information of a secret nature received from other U.S. agencies and from allied intelligence agents, and to oversee surveillance of the German Embassy in Washington, DC. The office is never a formal Department bureau but only a few �special agents� located within the Office of the Counselor. Lansing also proposes an inter-agency �secret service� to be centered in the Department of State, but the White House fails to act on the suggestion. In 1917, he hires the first Chief Special Agent, Joseph M. Nye. These initiatives come in response to German and Austrian acts of fraud, propaganda, sabotage, and espionage in the United States during the First World War. (Source: Library of Congress, National Photo Company Collection)
    ^ http://www.state.gov/m/ds/abo...
    ^ Counterintelligence Investigations http://www.state.gov/m/ds/ter...
    ^ Counterintelligence Investigations, http://www.state.gov/m/ds/ter...
    ^ Cuban spies arrested, http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs...
    ^ Federal Indictment of Myers http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2...
    ^ Exclusive: CIA Station Chief in Algeria Accused of Rapes http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter...
    ^ Affidavit in Support of a Search Warrant http://abcnews.go.com/images/...
    ^ Diplomatic Security Locates and Returns A Fugitive From Brazil
    ^ http://www.state.gov/m/ds/rls... DSS Agents help locate a fugitive from justice in Guatemala
    ^ Former CIA Station Chief arrested
    ^ http://www.nytimes.com/2012/1...

    I CHALLENGE you to find any inaccuracy on that information I posted!

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." - Proverbs 1:7
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  • Soundstorm Kaleoku... 2012/12/28 04:47:18
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Newsflash. Wikipedia downloads are references for gullible fools like you and will only earn you an F if this were a college term paper.
  • Kaleoku... Soundstorm 2012/12/28 06:09:44
    Kaleokualoha
    Problems with reading comprehension? I mentioned "Wikipedia provides a full list of references," but you stupidly responded "Wikipedia downloads are references for gullible fools."

    The issue is not "Wikipedia downloads" being "references." The issue is a LIST of references provided by Wikipedia to VALIDATE their entries!

    Fools find it hard to understand that Wikipedia merely provides an outline of conventional knowledge. Unimpeachable references provide essentially the same information.

    Would you care to quibble about the accuracy of the posted information on "The Assistant Secretary of State for Diplomatic Security"? Let's DO it! Then your foolishness in questioning this Wikipedia entry will be obvious.

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." - Proverbs 1:7
  • uguess 2012/11/01 14:54:44
    uguess
    +4
    YOU WATCH EACH VIDEO AND THEN YOU DECIDE IF OBAMA AND HIS CULT FOLLOWING BACKED BY THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE KIND OF LEADERS YOU WANT TO FOLLOW AND LEAD THIS NATION INTO RIGHTEOUSNESS AND FREEDOM FOR ALL.

  • kobidobidog 2012/10/31 23:26:57
    kobidobidog
    +1
    Here is a judgment coming for whoever does good, and whoever does bad. I cannot call war good, can you?
  • konalimu kobidob... 2012/11/01 02:29:03
    konalimu
    +2
    But at lease you would have call 911 if you saw live feed of people being slaughtered!
  • kobidob... konalimu 2012/11/01 05:40:42 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    There would be no way to stop what was happening anyway. You want Obama to give evil for evil? You expect Obama to send people to kill to be just as bad as the other people that killed? Verily verily the people that pulled the trigger, and fired rockets will get their reward.
  • Soundstorm kobidob... 2012/11/03 08:28:10
    Soundstorm
    +1
    The people who pulled the trigger and fired rockets will never get their reward if we fail to deliver it to them ourselves. Refusal to get one's hands dirty engaging the terrorists is the cowardly politician's way, not the way of a saint. Failure to take military action against those who war against us is the real evil and invites more evil.
  • kobidob... Soundstorm 2012/11/03 20:52:31
    kobidobidog
    The soul, the soul.people forget to save the soul. Had Jesus been like a military army being God would have begun a war to even all wars.That would be because there would be no one alive to fight anyone. Ever had the prieast teach you this?KJV. Romans 12 >> 20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
    King James Version
  • ProudPr... konalimu 2012/11/02 03:46:01
    ProudProgressive
    There was no live feed. We didn't get video of the attack until the beginning of October, from the Libyan government.
  • Soundstorm ProudPr... 2012/11/03 08:52:27
    Soundstorm
    +1
    The Obama administration DID KNOW within the first two hours of the attack that this was no random mob but a deliberate terrorist attack as these emails show.

    email 1
    email 2
    email 3
  • ProudPr... Soundstorm 2012/11/03 15:07:29
    ProudProgressive
    A. There were conflicting reports. Some said it was a terrorist attack, others said it was a mob similar to what was going on in Cairo at the same time.

    B. Those emails don't prove it was a terrorist attack, they simply report that someone claimed responsibility.

    C. Whether it was a terrorist attack or not, there still was no live video of the attack in the White House and no order to anyone to stand down or not respond.

    D. The President called the attack an act of terror the next day.

    E. We now know that the anti Islamic video was one of the main motivating factors for the terrorist attack.

    F. Whether the Administration initially thought it was a terrorist attack or not is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the Administration responded properly to the attack.


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  • phil white kobidob... 2012/11/01 12:36:51 (edited)
    phil white
    +2
    "A time to love and a time to hate. A time for war and a time for peace."
    http://bible.cc/ecclesiastes/...
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