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Some protestant Bibles contain seven less books in the Old Testament than the Catholic Bible. Did the Catholics add the seven books or did the protestants remove the seven books? Both answers can't be correct.

Simmering Frog 2012/09/28 03:29:12
The protestants removed the seven books. Here, let me explain...
The Catholics added the seven books. Here, let me explain...
Oh Geez. I'm not getting involved with this but here's my two cents.
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Saw part of a show yesterday called "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist." Interesting show. However this host was taking questions from the audience and a guy stood up and asked why there is a different number of books in the Catholic and protestant Bibles. He explained in a nutshell Martin Luther's protest against the Catholic church's selling of indulgences which in all fairness, was correct. Luther had a point. He then went on the say that at the Council of Trent (30 years later) that the Catholic church actually ADDED the seven books. This can't be. It can't be because Luther couldn't be objecting to something that wasn't already there 30 years earlier. The interesting thing was that the camera stayed on the guy's face for a long time and you could see that he knew he wasn't being honest. So I found this on the internet at Catholic.com:

Did the Church add the Deuterocanonical books to the Bible at the Council of Trent?






















Full Question

Is
it true that at Trent the Church added the seven Deuterocanonical books
(Judith, Tobit, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Baruch, and
Ecclesiasticus) to the Bible ?




Answer

No.
The Council of Trent (1545-1564) infallibly reiterated what the Church
had long taught regarding the canons of the Old and New Testaments. Pope
Damasus promulgated the Catholic canons at the Synod of Rome in A.D.
382, and later, at the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage
(397, 419), the Church again defined the same list of books as inspired.


The canons of the Old and New Testaments, as defined by Pope Damasus
and the Councils of Hippo and Carthage, were later ratified (though the
books were not enumerated individually) by the later Ecumenical
councils of II Nicaea (787) and Florence (1438-1445). Although the
Council of Trent, in response to the Protestant violation of the Bible
by deleting the seven Deuterocanonical books plus portions of Daniel and
Esther, was the first infallible conciliar listing of each individual
book, it certainly did not add those books to the canon.


If that were the case, how could Martin Luther and the other
Reformers have objected to the presence of those books decades before
the Council of Trent if they weren't in the canon to begin with and were
added by the Council of Trent?












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  • ¤Creepy Lumberjack¤ >-QC-< 2012/10/20 02:57:59
    The protestants removed the seven books. Here, let me explain...
    ¤Creepy Lumberjack¤ >-QC-<
    Both are notorious cults.
  • Simmeri... ¤Creepy... 2012/10/20 04:53:21 (edited)
    Simmering Frog
    Cute but that didn't address the topic.
  • flaca BN-0 2012/09/28 14:14:32
    Oh Geez. I'm not getting involved with this but here's my two cents.
    flaca BN-0
    You make a good point. But added to that Frog, aren't there some that were never included as well?
  • Simmeri... flaca BN-0 2012/09/28 19:56:40
    Simmering Frog
    +1
    Quite a few I believe.
  • Rust 2012/09/28 08:06:58
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 18:11:43
    Simmering Frog
    Feelings aren't factual. Your feelings can't find a Bible prior to the protestant reformation that did not include those seven missing books.
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 18:12:45
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 18:15:14
    Simmering Frog
    Lol. You don't even know what you just wrote.
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 18:15:45 (edited)
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 19:34:24
    Simmering Frog
    The Catholic church was not running parallel with the early Christians. Where in the hell are you learning your history?
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 19:36:00
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 19:37:15
    Simmering Frog
    Who's they? There was no "they" and "the Catholic Church." Are you stoned?
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 19:38:08
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 19:41:01
    Simmering Frog
    The early Church was the Catholic church you moron! You are ignorant of history.
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 19:41:48 (edited)
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 19:50:47
    Simmering Frog
    You are CLEARLY ignorant of history. You can't change the past for your convenience. You can't make up your own truth. The Catholic church was the universal church. It was the group of followers who followed Christ for the first centuries. Next you are going to be telling me the protestants were running around in the year 300 AD while the Catholic church was competing with them.
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 19:52:27
  • Simmeri... Rust 2012/09/29 19:57:05
    Simmering Frog
    Look, I can choose to continue trying to debate with you however you don't your history. You seem to have learned your history from a bumper sticker that wasn't even well researched. Where are you getting your erroneous information from? TV preachers?
  • Rust Simmeri... 2012/09/29 19:58:00
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2012/09/28 06:45:33
    The protestants removed the seven books. Here, let me explain...
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    These books are called the Apocrypha. They are writings in Greek written during the 400 year time period between the end of the Old Testament and the New Testament.
  • Azazyel's Dragon 2012/09/28 03:30:27
    Oh Geez. I'm not getting involved with this but here's my two cents.
    Azazyel's Dragon
    +1
    ONLY GOD KNOWS...
  • Simmeri... Azazyel... 2012/09/28 03:32:52
    Simmering Frog
    +1
    That's not true. Historians know.
  • Azazyel... Simmeri... 2012/09/28 03:34:13
    Azazyel's Dragon
    I seriously doubt that...
  • Simmeri... Azazyel... 2012/09/28 03:34:37
    Simmering Frog
    +1
    Are you saying historians don't exist?
  • Azazyel... Simmeri... 2012/09/28 03:36:21
    Azazyel's Dragon
    +1
    I'm saying history is written by the winning side of wars, my friend. Research it for yourself!
  • Simmeri... Azazyel... 2012/09/28 03:39:08
    Simmering Frog
    +1
    Martin Luther was is a very studied historical figure. Your answer is somewhat of a cop out.
  • Azazyel... Simmeri... 2012/09/28 03:45:21
    Azazyel's Dragon
    No, my answer is THE TRUTH!!!
  • Simmeri... Azazyel... 2012/09/28 03:48:06
    Simmering Frog
    +1
    You could apply that to anything.
  • Azazyel... Simmeri... 2012/09/28 03:49:27
    Azazyel's Dragon
    Yes, and that answer (to anything) would be...
    word CORRECT

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