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Can Mark Zuckerberg Rebound Like Steve Jobs?

Fef 2012/08/01 18:00:00
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Mark Zuckerberg has lost the good graces of Wall Street as Facebook stock continues to plunge to new lows (FB 21.71 as of Jul 31, 4:00PM EDT). Steve Jobs had a similar fall from grace during his days as the CEO and Founder of Apple Inc. Market analysts wonder if The Zuck has the same rebound qualities as Jobs, though. What do you think?

MARKETWATCH.COM reports: Has Facebook’s stock fallen so far, so fast, that we might hear whispers that the company needs a new chief? asks media columnist Jon Friedman
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  • James 2012/08/20 00:59:22
    No
    James
    Facebook needs to go private again.
  • Diane 2012/08/07 03:37:23
    No
    Diane
    I don't think you can compare Facebook with Apple. Apple sells a product. Facebook sells advertising. I think Facebook can be better compared with Yahoo. I don't see much growth in Facebook. The growth happened well before the IPO and the IPO was highly overpriced.
  • Tennessee3501 2012/08/04 21:53:06
    Yes
    Tennessee3501
    Like the CEO of Chick-Fil-A he should denounce gay marriage. The controversy will give Facebook so many new subscribers, that the value of facebook stock would soar!
  • Jeff Nice 2012/08/03 20:10:50
    Yes
    Jeff Nice
    probably already did. Stock price not the only consideration in these falls from grace. Maybe could buy his grace back with less than say $20. Not sure how this stuff operates myself.
  • bags the Indigenous Guru 2012/08/03 17:39:15
    No
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +2
    This is no Steve Jobs, this is a one trick pony......and someone else actually trained the horse.
  • Jackie ... bags th... 2012/08/03 17:46:28
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    LOL fine minds
  • Duke----The Non Racist, Fun... 2012/08/03 17:38:35 (edited)
    No
    Duke----The Non Racist, Funny Duke !
    Lets hope that no good thief and liar will not recover
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/08/03 17:30:59
    Yes
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    For his sake, but he did not invent anything - he grabbed it from his early partners, Jobs invented. Time will tell of course, but he needs to invent something or steal it from someone or he will be a flash in the pan
  • bags th... Jackie ... 2012/08/03 17:39:57
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +1
    I should've read ahead before I posted! LOL
  • Jackie ... bags th... 2012/08/03 17:46:48
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    LOL - we have his number
  • mal 2012/08/03 17:26:46
    No
    mal
    he created conversation only
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/03 16:35:12
    No
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    The only real problem with Facebook is that the IPO was insanely overpriced.

    Google monetizes the fact that they know what you are looking for.
    Apple sells the slickest alternative to the decaying world of Microsoft.
    Facebook monetizes the fact that they know who your friends are.

    Despite millions of members, Facebook is the smallest niche of the 3 business models. To be fair, Zuckerberg has not made gigantic errors like Jobs did. People are quick to forget that Jobs' first term at Apple nearly bankrupted the company.

    If FB was priced at a reasonable Price to Earnings (PE) ratio, for the business that it truly is, nobody would be talking about the need for a "rebound". Facebook earns 29 cents per share. Give them a generous PE of 30 (appropriate for a fast growing stock), and FB is worth $8.70 per share. Today's price is $21, IPO was $38. Both are ridiculous.

    Google sells at $641.07 with a PE of 19
    Apple sells at $615.00 with a PE of 43
    FB would be reasonably priced at $8.70 with a PE of 30

    Even $8.70 is a generous estimate. I'm not so sure FB is worth more than Google. And yet, if FB were priced based on earnings, with a ratio to match Google, FB would be a $5.50 stock.

    If FB was selling between $5 and $9, we would be having a rational discussion about...

    The only real problem with Facebook is that the IPO was insanely overpriced.

    Google monetizes the fact that they know what you are looking for.
    Apple sells the slickest alternative to the decaying world of Microsoft.
    Facebook monetizes the fact that they know who your friends are.

    Despite millions of members, Facebook is the smallest niche of the 3 business models. To be fair, Zuckerberg has not made gigantic errors like Jobs did. People are quick to forget that Jobs' first term at Apple nearly bankrupted the company.

    If FB was priced at a reasonable Price to Earnings (PE) ratio, for the business that it truly is, nobody would be talking about the need for a "rebound". Facebook earns 29 cents per share. Give them a generous PE of 30 (appropriate for a fast growing stock), and FB is worth $8.70 per share. Today's price is $21, IPO was $38. Both are ridiculous.

    Google sells at $641.07 with a PE of 19
    Apple sells at $615.00 with a PE of 43
    FB would be reasonably priced at $8.70 with a PE of 30

    Even $8.70 is a generous estimate. I'm not so sure FB is worth more than Google. And yet, if FB were priced based on earnings, with a ratio to match Google, FB would be a $5.50 stock.

    If FB was selling between $5 and $9, we would be having a rational discussion about their growth prospects. At $38, $30, or $20, FB is an expensive lesson about the need to avoid overpriced stocks.

    Don't blame Zuckerberg. He simply maximized his paycheck. Blame the amateurs who overpaid.
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  • Diane V~POTL~... 2012/08/07 03:49:35
    Diane
    I agree with you except for one thing. Apple's PE ratio isn't 43. It's 14.63, and its five year expected PEG is 0.63, which is fantastic.

    Apple's incredibly cheap at $622.
  • V~POTL~... Diane 2012/08/07 04:49:40 (edited)
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Yep; I had PE and EPS reversed for Apple. But FB remains overpriced by any standard.
  • Diane V~POTL~... 2012/08/08 02:34:54
    Diane
    I agree.
  • Rebel 2012/08/03 15:05:58
    Yes
    Rebel
    Easily and with little effort. All they need is to launch something big and innovative and BOOOM they're back on top again and their investors will be pleased. It's really not that hard in the position he's in. I have no doubts on this one.
  • Wahvlvke 2012/08/03 13:34:15
    No
    Wahvlvke
    +1
    Jobs sold stuff ... little Marky sells ether.
  • James 2012/08/03 12:21:42
    No
    James
    +1
    Can you say Myspace? Just another crappy internet fad.
  • BlutandEhre 2012/08/03 12:00:12
    No
    BlutandEhre
    +1
    The greedy secular Jew stole the idea anyway. He should sink. People hate FB now.
  • Don Leuty 2012/08/03 07:42:59
    No
    Don Leuty
    +2
    Jobs had a good product. Zuckerman only has a fad on the back side of its growth curve.
  • bpf 2012/08/03 06:06:37
    No
    bpf
    +2
    Steve Jobs had a real product Zuckerberg facebook is just a fad..
  • JingerJewels 2012/08/03 04:56:08
    No
    JingerJewels
    +2
    Facebook is done Facebook is over
  • cnsharp 2012/08/03 02:53:09
    Yes
    cnsharp
    A thousand different things effect the stock market the slightest change could turn everything around or wipe him out completely.
  • Qwik619 2012/08/03 02:19:29
    No
    Qwik619
    +2
    Jesse eisenberg social network gif
    I only put this gif here because it made me laugh........................... ha ha.
  • ktmg 2012/08/03 02:02:10
    No
    ktmg
    +1
    I would bet that he really doesn't care, he has already made his money and is probably working on the next big thing.
  • MarinerFH 2012/08/03 01:32:49
  • mae 2012/08/02 23:31:03
    Yes
    mae
    Zuckerburg is infinitly able to re-invent himself.
  • Duke---... mae 2012/08/03 17:45:18 (edited)
    Duke----The Non Racist, Funny Duke !
    +1
    Or steal another idea and other peoples information like he did with facebook and then top it off with calling all his users of the site this...
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/...

    like he did
  • chuck 2012/08/02 19:22:39
    No
    chuck
    +1
    Believing Steve Zuckerburg created Face book is like Believing Al Gore created the internet
  • sean chuck 2012/08/03 02:55:24
    sean
    +1
    Facebook said in filings published this week that it has more than 83 million illegitimate accounts on its social network, MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE TOLD PEOPLE BEFORE THEY BOUGHT INTO THIS DOG OF A STOCK...and your right zuckerberg, stole the idea
  • Duke---... sean 2012/08/03 17:47:03
    Duke----The Non Racist, Funny Duke !
    And then called all the users of his stolen idea and information this...
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/...
  • the fuze 2012/08/02 18:37:39
    No
    the fuze
    +1
    Facebook could be replaced by the next social media craze much easier than Apple could be replaced.
  • Stevethinks 2012/08/02 18:30:39 (edited)
    Yes
    Stevethinks
    There is always hope! Da, i voted NO! NO! NO! NO! I think? I am not and have never been and will never be a customer!!!!!
  • Robshock 2012/08/02 18:18:56
    No
    Robshock
    +3
    There is a big difference between the two. Jobs was an inventor and a businessman. Zucky was just trying to come up with a new way of getting laid and stumbled into the facebook thing. Facebook will go the way of MySpace. It is only a matter of time.
  • Danaman117 2012/08/02 18:02:51
  • Gray Pilgrim 2012/08/02 17:43:41
    No
    Gray Pilgrim
    +3
    Steve was interested in his company and cared about provided a product to serve his public...
    Zuckerberg is only interested in ruining everybodies lives and privacy to make up for his totally sociopathic life... and he is too greedy and stupid to see anything but his pathetic self...consider the fact that he does not allow dislike and unfriend buttons
  • Danaman117 Gray Pi... 2012/08/02 18:04:52
  • Gray Pi... Danaman117 2012/08/02 18:06:55
    Gray Pilgrim
    yes ... he was disliked and friendless all his lif
  • Danaman117 Gray Pi... 2012/08/02 18:07:43
  • Chris 2012/08/02 17:35:48
    No
    Chris
    +2
    Didn't Mark steal Facebook? His entire company is built on bad Karma.

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