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Obama Denounces Christianity As Our Nation's Religion: Are You Proud Or Upset?

socallocal April 06, 2009 19:02:49

President Barack Obama told Turkish news reporters that America isn't a nation based under one religion. Although Christians make up the majority of religious followers in the United States, Barack Obama claimed that America is not a "Christian nation". Barack Obama went on to state that America is "...a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values". Are you proud that President Barack Obama is keeping the U.S. free of religious identity or does this upset you?
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I'm upset that Barack Obama denies a standard U.S. religion
Barack Obama's claim that the U.S. is not a Christian nation...
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  • +4 raves
    gfreema... Balls O... April 06, 2009 19:24:35
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
  • +1 raves
    Tonio31... Balls O... April 07, 2009 02:40:18
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    LOL
  • me2 maggieost April 06, 2009 21:12:07
    me2
    What part of the country? The Southwest was formed, odd word, on taking riches from the land, converting or killing the Native Americans, and getting rich as soon as possible. Remember all those ships loaded with Latin and South American loot? Oh my, WWJD about that plunder?
  • +1 raves
    Tonio31... maggieost April 07, 2009 02:41:05
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    Hey, I'm going to point and laugh at you, is that alright?
  • +9 raves
    Joker ~ Death ~ IMBIT April 06, 2009 19:13:29
    Joker ~ Death ~ IMBIT

    I'm proud that Barack Obama doesn't claim a national religion

    Its about time.
  • +3 raves
    Ghost April 06, 2009 19:12:00 (edited)
    Ghost

    I'm proud that Barack Obama doesn't claim a national religion

    We do live in a country where many people have differen't religions so to say we are based under one religion wouldn't be right. Under the bill of rights we all have the freedom to be whatever religion we choose to be thats what makes america america!
  • +13 raves
    NickName his Dudeness April 06, 2009 19:10:41
    NickName his Dudeness

    I'm proud that Barack Obama doesn't claim a national religion

    Let's leave the theocracy to places like Iran. No need for it here.
  • +8 raves
    Balls O... NickNam... April 06, 2009 19:21:01
    Balls Of Fury
    Amen to that! Theocracies tend to afford few rights to their people, women in particular.
  • Terri3g... Balls O... April 06, 2009 20:02:44
    Terri3gs..Irish American Patriot
    WRONG...I have been a Christain all my life and have never been treated badly or unfairly because I am a Woman.
  • +2 raves
    Balls O... Terri3g... April 06, 2009 20:06:37
    Balls Of Fury
    That's because you don't live in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan or Iran. Ask the women there how they are treated under theocratic rule... And why are you saying "WRONG"??? We don't live under a theocracy which is precisely the point!
  • Helo Chick Balls O... April 08, 2009 17:30:43
    Helo Chick
    Let's see, living in a Muslim theocracy or living in a Christian theocracy, yeah, they don't even compare. Our Bible doesn't condone honor killings if we fail to comply with an arranged marriage at the age of 15. Try again. If more people lived by the golden rule, maybe there'd be less rapes, murders, and people harming children.
  • Epistem... Terri3g... April 07, 2009 14:23:30
    Epistemically Justified
    Luckily, you haven't lived in a theocracy.
  • +4 raves
    elisa April 06, 2009 19:10:40 (edited)
    elisa

    Barack Obama's claim that the U.S. is not a Christian nation...

    Yes that is true! There are buddist, musliums and many other religions in this country and needless to say the ones with no faith at all. It is only fair for them. Christianity is the majority but there is also a miniority that also needs to be acknowledged and also respected!
    I'm Catholic and I think its wrong to say this whole county's religion should be christian. Hello "Freedom of religion" ring a bell? Also I think it is mean to say he is a maron and for those who voted for him... that is just unnessessary and hateful. We can never get things done with that attitude. People have just lost any type of respect. What ever happend to trying to understand eachother and co-exsist?
    People he is your president furthermore, I couldn't stand bush... and that man was a moran... so now you have to wait your turn like the rest of us did!
  • +1 raves
    wandangel elisa April 07, 2009 07:45:50
    wandangel
    Oh, my goodness! Next you'll be whining "Why can't we all just get along?" Just because someone refers to America as a Christian nation does not mean that everyone in it is of the Christian faith...that would be like saying that everyone in the Smith family is male!
  • +1 raves
    Zuggi wandangel April 07, 2009 07:47:11
    Zuggi
    It's more like claiming that America is a white nation. Of course it's not.
  • Jerry wandangel April 07, 2009 16:55:28
    Jerry
    Yes, but it would be endorsing Christianity.
  • maggieost elisa August 24, 2009 15:34:50
    maggieost
    1st Obamo is a skilled speaker and follows directions set before him- everythink about the election and his platform was devised years ago by others to place him in power.
    2nd - I have to wonder what you mean when you say you are Catholic and dont feel the whole country should be christians. "Catholic" is 1 of the many branches (collections) of the Christian faith. Christian means that you are a Christ follower, read your Bible more often and you will see that as a Christ follower your purpose is to help others know Christ and help lead them in that direction. It is not a matter of what we think the country should be, it has always been what the country was "formed" on. Thus you will always see "In God we trust" because this is what will help bring this country through the mess me are in and will be even further before his term is over. People were wanting a change, yet when asked they always "assumed" it would be a positive change- I think we have much to work though before any of what is currently in place become positive.
    America was formed on our religious free and the love of God..
    As a Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist or any other "branch" there is only 1 God
    Knowing a muslim personally there biggest understanding of Jesus is that he is a prophet
    just like many others, I think is you look into the Jewish religion you will find the same, As Christians we believe "KNOW" that Jesus is the son of God as well.
  • +54 / -10 raves
    gfreeman~American Atheist~ April 06, 2009 19:10:28
    gfreeman~American Atheist~

    I'm proud that Barack Obama doesn't claim a national religion

    Finally we have a President that realizes that the United States was never intended to be a theocracy.
  • +6 / -2 raves
    DIAMOND... gfreema... April 06, 2009 21:10:30
    DIAMOND MIKE
    more a statement about his Christianity than that of the nations. The simple fact that none can deny that this great nation (yes i said it, this great nation) was founded on christian principals, is a direct contradiction to the presidents claim. One of the major features of Christianity is freedom of choice. and this is why this christian nation freely accepts and loves people of all faiths within its borders and beyond. (we are still the most charitible nation in the world this too is largely due to the nations christian core). One thing that really makes me sick is when people act as if , in order for us to be honest about who we are we are suggesting a theocratic government, this is a weak argument upon even the slightest inspection. this christian government insured others freedom of religon right in the founding documents ! so whats all this theocracy bs about. any body that is honest cannot say that this is not Christian nation , is spite of all the attacks , the turn the other cheek nature of Christians, and the constant arival of people from all over the world Christians are the clear majority of the population. I kinda wish that atheist , muslims and others would read the gospel even if they don't believe in it , in order to develope thier charachter to the point tha...
    more a statement about his Christianity than that of the nations. The simple fact that none can deny that this great nation (yes i said it, this great nation) was founded on christian principals, is a direct contradiction to the presidents claim. One of the major features of Christianity is freedom of choice. and this is why this christian nation freely accepts and loves people of all faiths within its borders and beyond. (we are still the most charitible nation in the world this too is largely due to the nations christian core). One thing that really makes me sick is when people act as if , in order for us to be honest about who we are we are suggesting a theocratic government, this is a weak argument upon even the slightest inspection. this christian government insured others freedom of religon right in the founding documents ! so whats all this theocracy bs about. any body that is honest cannot say that this is not Christian nation , is spite of all the attacks , the turn the other cheek nature of Christians, and the constant arival of people from all over the world Christians are the clear majority of the population. I kinda wish that atheist , muslims and others would read the gospel even if they don't believe in it , in order to develope thier charachter to the point that the could just just live and let live. We as Christians sometimes go to far to be tolerant, my gradmother used to always say people often take kindness as a weekness. whoever says that this is not a Christian nation. Is not honest, or very misinformed period
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  • +14 raves
    Scaramo... DIAMOND... April 07, 2009 07:25:56
    Scaramouche [LordOfPants]
    We already live and let live. It's not the religion that counts, it's the people.

    And America is NOT a Christian nation. Christianity is the majority, but the country is not officially run under Christianity.
  • maggieost Scaramo... August 24, 2009 15:44:54
    maggieost
    Wrong Again, Christianity is what formed this country, check any of the records
    WIth your religious freedoms here you can choose any branch of the Christian faith or belong to other religions that are not tradionally seen as being from America but are accepted her because of our freedom to choose. Christian means only that you follow Christ and his teachings as the son of God. Jewish people believe he is not the son of God but only a prophet similiar to the Muslim faith. But they also both believe in God. A branch of the Christian faith is any following that you decided to adhere to. ie: Cathlolic, Baptist, Methodist
    It is where you feel most comfortable and feel a similiarity with the other followers.
    Remember followers are also only human good and bad and this is what is always remembered when there is an issue in the news. You must remember the old news that used to go around that all Catholics cheated, because after all, wheat did they need to worry about they just needed to go ask the priest for forgiveness and they were like back in and in good terms. Think about it, is every Catholic a cheater? NO. We have our freedom here more thatn any other country but we are a country formed on our faith of God. Some just not as devoted or understanding of what are freedoms are here.
  • Scaramo... maggieost August 24, 2009 22:46:35
    Scaramouche [LordOfPants]
    There is something called the Separation of Church and State, look it up. This country isn't officially Christian, and no matter how many times you want to argue that it was 'formed' by Christianity, it doesn't make the country itself 'Christian'. It's like saying a child born into a Christian family MUST grow up to be a Christian, and has no religious freedom whatsoever.

    Malaysia, that's a country officially declared a Muslim nation. "The Malay language and Islam are the official language and religion of the federation respectively."

    The United States HAS no official religion of the federation. If you really want to look at it, then the Native American tribes should have THEIR religion be made the religion of the country, seeing as they belonged there way before the settlers came in to conquer and kill.
  • +17 raves
    gfreema... DIAMOND... April 07, 2009 12:55:02
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    Christians are the majority in this country and even then, not all of them believe the same thing. You could brake them all out by denomination. But that is not the point.

    While there is a Christian majority in this country, that does not make the Government, Christian. The government is secular. Obama was merely reinforcing this.
  • +2 raves
    CHUCK F... gfreema... April 07, 2009 20:28:24 (edited)
    CHUCK FARLEY
    The Government is not the American People or America at all... American population is what makes America not the government that was created by the people for the people. So to say political parties or individuals like Barack Hussien Obama can deny the fact the majority of the United States is Christian is beyond there boundaries as Government. It is the government of the United states thats it!!!!! MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE CHRISTIAN . It has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOVERNMENT.
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    gfreema... CHUCK F... April 08, 2009 16:19:28
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    That is what I said. But I disagree with you on your statement regarding the government not being the American people, we are the government.
  • CHUCK F... gfreema... April 08, 2009 19:11:33
    CHUCK FARLEY
    We made the government is what i was implying ..
  • +2 raves
    gfreema... CHUCK F... April 08, 2009 20:13:44
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    If you were implying that why did you say that "The Government is not the American People or America at all..." or was that a typo?
  • +2 raves
    Sparkle... gfreema... April 08, 2009 20:18:42
    SparkleyPie *Mojo is my homeboy*
    I wish he'd wipe that dumb look off of his face.
  • +1 raves
    gfreema... Sparkle... April 08, 2009 20:28:59
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    Someone may have hit him on the back of the head when he made that face and it stuck like that.
  • CHUCK F... gfreema... April 08, 2009 23:14:50 (edited)
    CHUCK FARLEY
    I was implying the American population is what makes America not the government that was created by the people for the people. So to say political parties or individuals like Barack Hussien Obama can deny the fact the majority of the United States is Christian is beyond there boundaries as Government.

    I fixed it for clarity..... in my reply
  • +1 raves
    gfreema... CHUCK F... April 09, 2009 13:17:21
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    He wasn't denying that the majority of america is christian, neither am I, I don't know anyone who would, the poll numbers don't support that position. He was saying that the government was religion neutral or secular.
  • CHUCK F... gfreema... April 09, 2009 16:22:46
    CHUCK FARLEY
    He did not say that ,because if he did then this would be a non issue. he stated "America is not a Christian Nation" not "The US government Has no religious Stance"

    Maybe his TelePrompTer had a "typo" ?
  • gfreema... CHUCK F... April 09, 2009 16:28:24
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    Well we are not a Christian Nation, we are a nation that has a majority of Christians in it. We are also have a majority of caucasians in the US, does that make us a Caucasian Nation?
    Why does it bother you so much? Why does your religious preference have to be shared by the President? Why do you insist on believing that the founding fathers wanted to form some country as a safe haven for christians?
    Is your faith so weak that any mention of something that you perceive as negative, makes you fill like it has been slighted?
  • CHUCK F... gfreema... April 09, 2009 19:51:54
    CHUCK FARLEY
    My faith is sound, but just as the fact that Obama didnt mention "we are not a caucasian nation" is my point THAT WAS TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR. This country was settled by the Puritans who believed that the Christian walk should be followed closely. This is where our founding fathers came from and to preserve that right to practice this is why they left England.
  • maggieost CHUCK F... August 24, 2009 15:51:58
    maggieost
    Very true in many ways, however we the people really need to get control of the government and have it run the way it should be-
    Once elected they do as they wish not as our elected officials delivering the peoples wishes
  • maggieost gfreema... August 24, 2009 15:50:00
    maggieost
    Obama reinforced what no other president has every done in the past
    Deciding to tell the rest of the world what our country was formed on
    Wrong move on his part. As you know there is a separation on government and state but this was not always so, People that do not believe in God have a very active need to get a major separation between this government and God, good luck, if you look at any of the problems that are before us you will see that most are accomplished by the human natures of all of us that need to be kept under control, greed and power being the 2 biggest. Our Christian believes give us rules to try and follow to help us be better individuals and work on controlling these human flaws we all have.
  • -1 raves
    gfreema... maggieost August 24, 2009 15:51:39
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    So God created us with flaws? Doesn't seem very smart to me.
  • +3 raves
    Jerry DIAMOND... April 07, 2009 17:02:24
    Jerry
    The US was not founded on Christian principles but moral principles. Many things sound as if they are Christian but in reality are based on morals for example, The right to bear arms? Christian belief is to turn a cheek not defend your self with lethal means if Necessary. America was based on secular principles. It is not a Christian nation either, there are many other religions in practice in the united states. To proclaim one religion over the other is like proclaiming America is a white nation, since there are more white Christians. America is Melting Pot that believes in freedom from religion as well as freedom of religion.
  • CLSFD KIDD DIAMOND... April 08, 2009 13:18:51
    CLSFD KIDD
    Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin would highly disagree with you.
  • +1 raves
    gfreema... CLSFD KIDD April 08, 2009 20:15:20
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    That has nothing to do with what was just stated. Why do we protect the right to bear arms if the christian way is to turn the other cheek? Got anything to say to that. I think that is a very good point and I doubt Jefferson or Franklin would disagree with him on that.
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