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Copenhagen summit: It’s money that matters in the backroom talks?
Javimendo December 01, 2009 17:35:04
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Why settle for a slice of the economic pie when you can get 1% of the world’s GNP for saving your own life?
We’ve all heard how the planet is doomed to catastrophic events of Biblical proportions because of human recklessness and greed, i.e., Western capitalists. (Pay no attention to the CRU scientists behind the curtain.) The big climate conclave is about to begin in Copenhagen. Despite the fact—don’t you dare try to deny it—that poorer nations will suffer most from climate change, they are holding out on an agreement to save the planet for the other precious green—money. Lots of it and paid upfront. There will be a bunch of financiers and industrialists looking to make some green too.
Copenhagen summit: It’s money that matters in the backroom talks
Vast sums will be needed to lubricate the settlement rich and poor nations must achieve to combat global warming. John Vidal considers the prospect of the biggest transfer of funds in history.
Ecology and morals count in the public arena, but as the negotiations progress and world leaders arrive to take the stage, money will dominate the backroom talks. It is likely to be the deal maker or breaker. Copenhagen may lead over the next 20 years to the largest transfer of money in history from the global north to the south, dwarfing the amount that developing countries now receive in aid.
Industrialists, financiers, bankers, business groups and carbon traders know there is much more in play at the Danish capital than a concern for the health of the planet. They all have a stake in the decisions made and see climate change as the driver of a global energy revolution and the chance to trade in technologies that could shift the world economy.
The developing countries have listened and learned from the bailouts and health care politics.
…developing countries say that rich countries must contribute at least 1% of their GNP by 2020. It’s not much, they argue, compared to what was found to stave off a global recession, and nothing at all compared to the eventual likely costs of ignoring climate change altogether.
But the total on the table is just one source of the deadlock. Rich countries insist that any money raised for climate adaptation or mitigation be channelled through the World Bank or the Global Environmental Facility. But these two New York-based institutions are perceived to be controlled by the rich. Instead, poor countries want a separate climate adaptation fund which would be administered by the UN. This they say, would give them an equal voice on how the money is spent.
With only a few days’ negotiating time left before the politicians arrive in Copenhagen, it is extremely unlikely that any financial agreement will be reached except on the broadest of principles. The danger is that the negotiations on who pays what to whom will not just stretch into next year, but will become intractable ‑ a cheque that never gets signed.
So is this the way the world ends, greed infects the poor and dooms the planet sickened by the greed of the rich? The history of the human race from the Garden of Eden to Tivoli Gardens. That would be Biblical.
How curious that it comes down to haggling over money, especially when the holdouts demanding money are the ones who will presumably suffer the most from climate change devastation. But no time to think about such things. We have to hurry and pay the Maldives 1% of the world’s GNP to keep polar bears off our front porches.
We’ve all heard how the planet is doomed to catastrophic events of Biblical proportions because of human recklessness and greed, i.e., Western capitalists. (Pay no attention to the CRU scientists behind the curtain.) The big climate conclave is about to begin in Copenhagen. Despite the fact—don’t you dare try to deny it—that poorer nations will suffer most from climate change, they are holding out on an agreement to save the planet for the other precious green—money. Lots of it and paid upfront. There will be a bunch of financiers and industrialists looking to make some green too.
Copenhagen summit: It’s money that matters in the backroom talks
Vast sums will be needed to lubricate the settlement rich and poor nations must achieve to combat global warming. John Vidal considers the prospect of the biggest transfer of funds in history.
Ecology and morals count in the public arena, but as the negotiations progress and world leaders arrive to take the stage, money will dominate the backroom talks. It is likely to be the deal maker or breaker. Copenhagen may lead over the next 20 years to the largest transfer of money in history from the global north to the south, dwarfing the amount that developing countries now receive in aid.
Industrialists, financiers, bankers, business groups and carbon traders know there is much more in play at the Danish capital than a concern for the health of the planet. They all have a stake in the decisions made and see climate change as the driver of a global energy revolution and the chance to trade in technologies that could shift the world economy.
The developing countries have listened and learned from the bailouts and health care politics.
…developing countries say that rich countries must contribute at least 1% of their GNP by 2020. It’s not much, they argue, compared to what was found to stave off a global recession, and nothing at all compared to the eventual likely costs of ignoring climate change altogether.
But the total on the table is just one source of the deadlock. Rich countries insist that any money raised for climate adaptation or mitigation be channelled through the World Bank or the Global Environmental Facility. But these two New York-based institutions are perceived to be controlled by the rich. Instead, poor countries want a separate climate adaptation fund which would be administered by the UN. This they say, would give them an equal voice on how the money is spent.
With only a few days’ negotiating time left before the politicians arrive in Copenhagen, it is extremely unlikely that any financial agreement will be reached except on the broadest of principles. The danger is that the negotiations on who pays what to whom will not just stretch into next year, but will become intractable ‑ a cheque that never gets signed.
So is this the way the world ends, greed infects the poor and dooms the planet sickened by the greed of the rich? The history of the human race from the Garden of Eden to Tivoli Gardens. That would be Biblical.
How curious that it comes down to haggling over money, especially when the holdouts demanding money are the ones who will presumably suffer the most from climate change devastation. But no time to think about such things. We have to hurry and pay the Maldives 1% of the world’s GNP to keep polar bears off our front porches.
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It's all about OUR money! Barry may commit 10 billion of our dollars to support this World wide HOAX!! The "Warmers" have been "outed" and Barry can't risk admitting it YET!! Our President will sell us down the Al Gore drain on this one! Folks, this is the TURD HERD in action, poop on the people!View thread

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WE THE PEOPLE
A 21st Century Psalm
December 7th is coming fast
We must act, before Copenhagen is passed
If that Treaty is law I guarantee
Another occurrence of infamy
As they strip away democracy
We wish to debate the natural state
It was warm for awhile, but cold as of late
The scientist tried to hide the decline
Deny debate through deceit and design
The science was settled and the data deleted
All opposition was effectively defeated
From checking the facts, and results repeated
Who could prove the science was cheated
Man Made Global Warming is a lie
The CRU e-mails and codes do testify
The purpose, a Carbon Debt to apply
Kiss your money, technology and freedom goodbye
The silence is deafening across the land
As the revelations the public now understands
The weathers a carrot meant to disguise
A corrupt agenda before our eyes
And now we see light shining in Truth
Politicians, media, and search engines declare moot
You can glimpse the extent of the hypocrisy
In how they declare there is nothing to see
So much for transparency
Climategate Googlegate Copenhagengate
Who gave you permission to decide our fate?
Censoring discussion denying debate
The Spirit of Truth you desecrate
In all debate Truth intervenes
Asks does the end justify the means?
Demands that honesty remains supreme
T...
A 21st Century Psalm
December 7th is coming fast
We must act, before Copenhagen is passed
If that Treaty is law I guarantee
Another occurrence of infamy
As they strip away democracy
We wish to debate the natural state
It was warm for awhile, but cold as of late
The scientist tried to hide the decline
Deny debate through deceit and design
The science was settled and the data deleted
All opposition was effectively defeated
From checking the facts, and results repeated
Who could prove the science was cheated
Man Made Global Warming is a lie
The CRU e-mails and codes do testify
The purpose, a Carbon Debt to apply
Kiss your money, technology and freedom goodbye
The silence is deafening across the land
As the revelations the public now understands
The weathers a carrot meant to disguise
A corrupt agenda before our eyes
And now we see light shining in Truth
Politicians, media, and search engines declare moot
You can glimpse the extent of the hypocrisy
In how they declare there is nothing to see
So much for transparency
Climategate Googlegate Copenhagengate
Who gave you permission to decide our fate?
Censoring discussion denying debate
The Spirit of Truth you desecrate
In all debate Truth intervenes
Asks does the end justify the means?
Demands that honesty remains supreme
That commitments aren’t made on fraudulent schemes.
It’s time for the passive acceptance to end
It’s time to stand for freedom as free men
It’s time to expose the lies and deceit
It’s time to take it to the streets
Do not commit sedition do not get jailed
Non-Violent revolutions do not fail
The voice of the Prophets, Gandhi and King
Are calling for you to get marching
Or just sit back and take the vaccine.
Here is the goofy part. The west is told to hand the cash over. No threats, no blackmail, no wars. Just, "Give it to us!" and we with our nutty president will do so? Never mind our economy? Our people? Our needs?
Go fiigure.
And polar bears are MEAN, MEAN, MEAN. I don't want one on my front porch. A koala bear, maybe!
What's going to happen in the Sahara? Is it going to rain or get hotter? It's not the hottest place on earth anyway, that's in Death Valley.
Are they trying to bring the "Third World" countries up to the living standards of the West? If so, get rid of the two bit war lords, dictators, religious fanatics, and give them free market ideals.
What would they do in Somalia? How are they going to get all of the two bit warlords to stop raiding and killing each other?
We all know the truth behind this, it's not because of any proven science, it's a proven fraud perpetuated for the sole purpose of blackmailing western countries for some unknown purpose.
Who are the people who are actually going to benefit?
Al Gore to begin with. So far, he's made a fictional movie based on theatrical trick and loaded with lies. His future income will be from the software his investment in a software company. This company has developed a program to track financial transfers from the Cap and Trade bills already worming their destructive way through Congress.
Follow the money.