SodaHead - LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved"'s Answers & Comments http://www.sodahead.com/users/feeds/user/368220/votes/atom/ http://images.sodahead.com/images/profiles/0/0/0/3/6/8/2/2/0/profiles_Obamao_1129_913140.jpeg LeeVee- &#34;This is NOT White House approved&#34;'s Answers &amp; Comments at SodaHead.com Copyright © 2008 SodaHead.com All Rights Reserved 2009-11-01T06:37:30Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Christians: Do You Celebrate Halloween the "Traditional" Way? http://www.sodahead.com/question/707583 <b>Christians: Do You Celebrate Halloween the "Traditional" Way?</b><br/><small>(Religion)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/707583/"> <img alt="Christians: Do You Celebrate Halloween the &#34;Traditional&#34; Way?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/7/0/7/5/8/3/polls_50550_4803_846467_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>48 answers</b>, <b>+14 raves</b> </div> All of my Christian neighbors wont have halloween parties, wont let their kids trick or treat and wont let them dress up. They have fall harvest get togethers at church instead with just games and candy. So I was wondering if there are Christians out there that celebrate it the traditional way with dressing up in costumes, trick or treating, decorating their house and having halloween parties.<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/707583/"> <img alt="No because..." src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/7/0/7/5/8/3/polls_halloween_4845_390470_answer_2_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/707583/">No because...</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/707583/">It was an "idol" holiday to my wife and I before we were saved. We celebrated with large multi-keg parties at our home. It was bigger than Christmas, Easter, or Thanksgiving. Our oldest can barely remember the last time we had halloween at our home. We don't think it's wrong, just wrong for us. When our children were old enough (in their early teens), we explained to them fully, why we choose not to participate and gave them their choice. Now in their 20's, they have never chosen to participate in halloween, but do volunteer and dress up for Harvest Festivals at their or our church. I am an extremely Blessed man.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-11-01T06:37:30Z 2009-11-01T06:37:30Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Raves -- "thumbs up", "thumbs down" -- would you like to see both on your dashboard? http://www.sodahead.com/question/21295 <b>Raves -- "thumbs up", "thumbs down" -- would you like to see both on your dashboard?</b><br/><small>(SodaHead)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/21295/"> <img alt="Raves -- &#34;thumbs up&#34;, &#34;thumbs down&#34; -- would you like to see both on your dashboard?" src="" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>89 answers</b>, <b>+38 raves</b> </div> There are several polls relating to down raves -- should they be anonymous, are they relevant, do we care... We can see how many up raves we have received, from whom, and for what, on our dashboard. I would like to see down raves I have received, from whom, and for what, on my dashboard. (Not for retribution, but because there may be cause for rethinking my comment, for further comment, or for further discussion.) Would you appreciate having down raves on your dashboard?<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/21295/">Yes, I would like to see down raves on my dashboard.</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/21295/">I would like to see Up Raves, Down Raves, and then have Flag for Abuse.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-10-27T15:12:49Z 2009-10-27T15:12:49Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Dan Rather loses $70 million lawsuit against CBS. Do you feel sorry for him at all? http://www.sodahead.com/question/652421 <b>Dan Rather loses $70 million lawsuit against CBS. Do you feel sorry for him at all?</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/652421/"> <img alt="Dan Rather loses $70 million lawsuit against CBS. Do you feel sorry for him at all?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/6/5/2/4/2/1/polls_dan_rather_2_4429_915437_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>55 answers</b>, <b>+21 raves</b> </div> <A href="http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE58S5GK20090929" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE58S5G...</A> NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York state appeals court on Tuesday dismissed former TV newsman Dan Rather's lawsuit against CBS Corp in which Rather claimed he was made a scapegoat in a scandal over a 2004 report on then-President George W. Bush's military record.<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/652421/"></a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/652421/">It's a shame they weren't both ordered to pay $70 million to the American people.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-09-30T04:12:48Z 2009-09-30T04:12:48Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Bill Maher: America, you're stupid! Obama should just ram healthcare down America's throat because people are 'too stupid' to get it. Do You Agree? http://www.sodahead.com/question/589857 <b>Bill Maher: America, you're stupid! Obama should just ram healthcare down America's throat because people are 'too stupid' to get it. Do You Agree?</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/589857/"> <img alt="Bill Maher: America, you&#39;re stupid! Obama should just ram healthcare down America&#39;s throat because people are &#39;too stupid&#39; to get it. Do You Agree?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/5/8/9/8/5/7/polls_bill_maher_earth_day_4751_544240_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>567 answers</b>, <b>+84 raves</b> </div> On Conan, Maher said a lot of ridiculous things including that Obama should just ram healthcare down America's throat because people are 'too stupid' to get it. <OBJECT orig_size="660x405" width="250" height="153"><param name="allownetworking" value="internal"/><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never"/><param name="enableJSURL" value="false"/><param name="enableHREF" value="false"/><param name="saveEmbedTags" value="true"/><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/8lBgpI2S4I4&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x402061&color2=0x9461ca&border=1" allownetworking="internal" wmode="transparent" allowScriptAccess="never" enableHREF="false" height="153" width="250" allowfullscreen="true" enableJSURL="false" autostart="false" orig_size="660x405" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"/></OBJECT><br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/589857/"> <img alt="NO! Americans that dont want Hussein healthcare are not stupid! We are SMART!" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/5/8/9/8/5/7/polls_Dr_America200x254_5307_900016_answer_2_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/589857/">NO! Americans that dont want Hussein healthcare are not stupid! We are SMART!</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/589857/">Apparently, Bill considers himself part of our new ruling elite. Like Barry Hussein, he knows what's best for the eloi, oops, people. "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." —Daniel Webster</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-08-28T18:47:54Z 2009-08-28T18:47:54Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Ted Kennedy Dead at age 77 of brain cancer. (February 22, 1932 – August 26, 2009) http://www.sodahead.com/question/587273 <b>Ted Kennedy Dead at age 77 of brain cancer. (February 22, 1932 – August 26, 2009)</b><br/><small>(Living)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/587273/"> <img alt="Ted Kennedy Dead at age 77 of brain cancer. (February 22, 1932 – August 26, 2009)" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/5/8/7/2/7/3/polls_ted_kennedy2_4627_885984_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>44 answers</b>, <b>+12 raves</b> </div> <br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/587273/"></a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/587273/">I offer my condolences to the Kennedy family. With 2 deaths so close together it must be a very difficult time for all involved. As for those of us not so close to the situation, the Senate is now open to a good filibuster for at least a few months.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-08-26T21:28:21Z 2009-08-26T21:28:21Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" How do you believe Revelations will unfold? http://www.sodahead.com/question/489699 <b>How do you believe Revelations will unfold?</b><br/><small>(Religion)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/489699/"> <img alt="How do you believe Revelations will unfold?" src="" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>19 answers</b>, <b>+6 raves</b> </div> This is taken from a website called be-ready.org/ I have never seen this interpretation of Revelations. I have always been taught, and believed, that the saved ,those who have given their lives over to Jesus Christ, would be spared the tribulation. This interpretation has some merit, and I would appreciate any view points and thoughts as to, if you feel this is an accurate interpretation. Just a word of warning, no hateful , atheistic or condescending view points will be allowed. This is a topic for serious discussion for those who actually care about their souls. That being said here is the page. For all our sakes, please take the time to read it through to the end, so that you can get an accurate feel of this interpretation. Thank you all for any responses and input. Part I: Introduction: In discussing what will really happen during the Great Tribulation, this ministry takes the view that our thinking about this must be based primarily on the Book of Revelation. As will be shown, doing so leads to conclusions that are significantly different from what has been generally taught. It is the view of this ministry that the Book of Revelation has preeminent authority over all the other Books of the Bible where Second Coming Prophecy is concerned. This idea is derived mainly from the fact that it is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, in His glorified, post-Ascension state, who appears at the beginning as the Giver of the Book. It is &quot;The Revelation of Jesus Christ&quot;, as the book itself says, not &quot;The Revelation of St. John the Divine&quot;, as it is often called. From what John says in the first verse, we conclude that this Book contains prophetic information that Jesus Himself did not know in His earthly, pre-Ascension state. If He had known, the information would be in the Gospels. What we find in the Gospels is just a number of generalities. In the famous prophetic discourses of Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, these generalities are mixed with prophecies that clearly refer to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, rather than the Second Coming. Therefore, if you base your thinking about what will happen on these chapters, you are guaranteed to be wrong. Only the Book of Revelation gives a complete scenario of the events connected with the Second Coming. And even this could not be understood until recently. Passages related to the Second Coming in other Books of the Bible are in bits and pieces. Trying to put then together into a prophetic scenario is like trying to put a jigsaw puzzle together with a lot of pieces missing, plus pieces present that don&#39;t belong. The probability of coming up with the complete, correct picture in such a case is best expressed as zero. We only find all the pieces, with none that don&#39;t belong, in the Book of Revelation. There is a Biblical principle that only recently has been noticed by students of prophecy. It is founded on Daniel 12, verses 4 and 8-10. This principle says, in essence, that the Prophecies of the Second Coming will not be able to be understood until they are about to be fulfilled. In Daniel 12:4, Daniel was told to &quot;...shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end...&quot;. This idea is reinforced in verses 8-10. Herein is an important thing to remember: When the Prophets wrote down what they were told, and saw in visions, they themselves frequently did not understand what they were writing. It is only when the Prophecies are fulfilled, or about to be fulfilled, that they can be understood. What the angel said to Daniel in verse 9 &amp; 10 was actually a mild rebuke; &quot;Go your way, Daniel (He might as well have said &quot;Mind your own business, Daniel&quot;.) for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end...none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand&quot;. Understand what? The Prophecies! When the time comes for them to be fulfilled. The idea that the Prophecies will be understood when they are about to be fulfilled is consistent with Amos 3:7, which says, &quot;Surely the Lord God does nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants the Prophets&quot;. Some of the conclusions presented in this page are based on scientific discoveries made within the past 20 years. Most of this knowledge was known only as theory to a few scientists before, but it has now not only become recognized as fact, but has become well known to the general public. Some still is not well known to the public. This brings up a serious question: Is it Biblically right and acceptable to use knowledge from sources outside the Bible, especially from science, to interpret Prophecy? There is no direct answer to this in the Bible, but there are two passages that show that this is in fact acceptable. One is in Acts 17: 27 &amp; 28, were Paul appeals to pagan Greek poets (i.e. philosophers) to support his theological points of the Fatherhood and omnipresence of God. As others have said, truth is truth, no matter where it comes from. The second example, and the stronger of the two, is the story of the Wise Men in Matthew 2:1-12. They were astrologers, We know this from the Greek word translated &quot;Wise Men&quot;. Elsewhere in the New Testament, in the singular, it is translated &quot;sorcerer&quot;. As astrologers of that time, they were also primitive astronomers, the scientists of their day. They had real, if limited, knowledge of the sky. And they were the only people in the New Testament to know by their own knowledge and reasoning that the Messiah had come! Modern science is far more likely to give us real, factual truth than either ancient astrologers or pagan Greek poets. So if they were able to come up with truth worthy of inclusion of the Bible, including accurate interpretation of prophecy, then it logically follows that modern science might well tell us something about the events connected with the Second Coming of Christ. Part II: What Happens to Christians As stated in the &quot;Jesus REALLY is coming soon&quot; page, most Christians today expect to be taken up in the Rapture before the Tribulation begins. However, there is Biblical evidence from both Prophecy and doctrine that says that when the Tribulation begins, most Christians will not be ready. Prophecy The Prophetic reason for believing that most Christians won&#39;t be ready, again, derives from the idea that we are living in the historical Church Age of Laodicea. Although not all Christians believe this, there is a widely held view that the Seven Churches of Revelation 2 and 3 are seven ages in the history of the Church. In fact, it can be discerned from history when each age began and ended. It is widely accepted that if this is so, and the Second Coming is near, then we have to be living in the Age of Laodicea. In looking at the Churches, we find that everything Jesus said about each Church means something relevant to its spiritual condition and/or its role (or fate) in history. Even the name. The word &quot;Laodicea&quot; comes from two Greek words, &quot;laos&quot;, meaning people, and &quot;dikazo&quot;, meaning either &quot;an opinion&quot; or &quot;a sentence given by a judge&quot;. Applying the first meaning to the Church today, we find that this is a prophecy fulfilled in the wide range of difference of doctrinal opinions that characterizes the Christian world. Relating the second meaning to Revelation 3:16, we see that it prophesies the Church being rejected by Christ at the beginning of the Tribulation. The Rapture There is a simple but serious argument against the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine that is derived from relating the two famous &quot;Rapture&quot; passages, I Corinthians 15:51-54 and I Thessalonians 4:13-18, to Revelations 20:4-6. The two &quot;Rapture&quot; passages both make the point that the Resurrection of the Saints happens immediately before the Rapture. Revelation 20:4-6 describes a Resurrection of the Saints that by the context clearly happens at the end of the Tribulation. Verse 5 makes a point of saying that this is the First Resurrection. If this is the First Resurrection, then there is no resurrection before it. If there is no resurrection before it, there is no Rapture before it. If it happens at the end of the Tribulation, then the Rapture happens at the end of the Tribulation. It&#39;s that simple. But again, the question will be academic for the majority of Christians, because they won&#39;t be ready. The Seal of the Living God The key to understanding what happens to Christians is Revelation chapter 7. In the first few verses of that chapter, a limited number of people, 144,000, out of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, are shown to be given something called &quot;the seal of the living God&quot;. From versed 2 &amp; 3 we know that this happens just before the Tribulation begins. Contrary to what has been commonly thought, there is solid Scriptural reason to believe that those who will receive the seal are not necessarily Jews, but Christians, the Christians who are really ready. The key phrase in the passage is &quot;the servants of our God&quot; in verse 3. A servant of God in this age is a Christian. See Isaiah 65:15. Although the majority of Christians will not be ready, and hence the rejection, a relatively few will be. These are the people to whom Jesus refers with the words, &quot;To him who overcomes&quot;. They will not deserve to suffer during the Tribulation. The &quot;seal of the living God&quot; will protect them from God&#39;s wrath. See Revelation 9:4, and compare Ezekiel 9 (it&#39;s a short chapter). The Rest of the Christians For the rest of the Christians, the Tribulation will be as much a great chastisement as it will be a great judgment on the unsaved world. We find the key to this in Revelation 7:9 and 13 &amp; 14. In verse 7, we find the &quot;great multitude which no one could number&quot;. In verse 13, the elder asks John who these people are. John doesn&#39;t know, and politely throws the question back to the elder. His reply is, &quot;These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb&quot;. In understanding this, we must remember that the term &quot;great tribulation&quot; occurs only in two other places in the Bible, Mathew 24:21 and Daniel 12:1 (Note: readings in Daniel vary from translation to translation). In both cases, it refers to something that happens in connection with the Second Coming of Christ. There is no real Scriptural basis for calling the entire Church Age &quot;The Great Tribulation&quot;, as some do. Given that, understand this: No one comes out of something he was never in. To &quot;come out of the great tribulation&quot;, the Christians first of all have to be in it. They will be in it because they weren&#39;t ready. During the Tribulation, they will wake up to their failure and repent. Hence they &quot;washed their robes and made them white&quot;. See Daniel 11:35 &amp; Zechariah 13:9. Understand this, if the Tribulation begins and you are not ready, you will be in big trouble, and most Christians will not be ready. Never assume that you are ready! Part III: The Three Great Woes; What happens to the world as a whole? When most Christians think of the length of the Tribulation, they think of it as consisting of two 3 1/2 year periods, based on the idea that the Tribulation is the 70thWeek of Daniel 9: 24-27. This ministry does not argue this point pro or con. The 70th Week could run concurrently with what the Book of Revelation shows. Or, as some have suggested, it could actually be something that happens just before the Tribulation. However, you should be aware that it has been well argued by some students of Prophecy that the 70th Week has already been fulfilled. As stated in the Introduction, our thinking must be based on the Book of Revelation. Only the Book of Revelation gives a complete prophetic scenario of the events of the Great Tribulation. The Revelation does not make any mention of two 3 1/2 year periods. Rather, it shows the Tribulation consisting of three major outpourings of God&#39;s wrath that are called &quot;woes&quot;. You can find these mentioned in Revelation 8:13, 9:12, and 11:14. These periods are each different from the other two in form, intensity and duration. The first woe appears to last about five months. The second has to be more than 3 1/2, but less than 6 years. For the third, no time range is given. The most probable overall duration of the Tribulation appears to be only about 5 1/2 years. But that will be bad enough. About 2/3 of the human race will be killed during the first year, including Christians who weren&#39;t ready. Many more will die before the Tribulation is over, and the only ones who won&#39;t suffer much will be the Christians who are ready but somehow avoid persecution and/or martyrdom, if there are any such. There may not be. The First Woe: A Mountain Burning With Fire The key to understanding the first woe is Revelation 8:8. John describes &quot;something like a great mountain burning with fire&quot; being &quot;cast into the sea&quot;. One of the keys to understanding this passage is the Greek word translated &quot;something like&quot;. It occurs several times in Revelation 8 and 9. This word has no complete English equivalent. A full translation of it would read, &quot;similar to, but distinctly not...&quot;. In other words, John did not recognize what he saw, but compared it to the only thing he knew that it resembled. We do know, from modern science, what he saw, and it is terrifying: a comet or asteroid collision, the impact occurring in one of the oceans. If the verses, Revelation 8:7 -9:2 are viewed as different aspects of the same event, they form a scientifically accurate and detailed description of what would happen if a small asteroid or comet nucleus collided with the earth, the impact, again, happening in one of the oceans. The repeated references to &quot;one third&quot; are a reference to the one third of the earth&#39;s surface nearest the point of impact that would be directly effected, an area with a radius of 4500 to 5000 miles around the point of impact. This area will be totally devastated. The most probable point of impact is the mid Pacific Ocean, somewhere north of the equator. The reasons are as follows: The impact must destroy a third of the earth&#39;s surface, but leave Israel relatively unscathed. It must happen as far away from Israel as possible. That puts it in the Pacific. It must, however, not be exactly on the opposite side of the earth from the point of impact. The convergence of shock waves at the opposite point may cause a secondary disaster that would be locally almost as bad as the impact. Since Israel is north of the equator (about the latitude of the central Eastern states of the U.S.) the impact must occur north of the equator so the secondary disaster doesn&#39;t affect Israel. That puts it somewhere in the vicinity of the Hawaiian Islands. If the impact occurs there, it will destroy most of the nations on the Pacific Rim. This will include the destruction of most of the United States. Japan, Korea and the Philippines. Most of China, Mexico, Canada, and eastern Siberia will also be very hard hit. The land areas closest to the impact will be virtually obliterated. The casualty rate in those areas will be 100%. Following the impact, the entire earth will be plunged into a state of semi-darkness by the clouds of water and impact debris that will spread out from the point of impact. This is all something that the mass media, at least in the U.S., has been conditioning people to expect. It will be regarded by most people as simply horrendous bad luck. But during the period of darkness, something else will happen that science does not predict. Mysterious creatures called &quot;locusts&quot; (again, probably a comparison of something unknown to something John recognized), probably of a demonic nature, will spread out from the point of impact and start stinging people in an extremely painful but non-fatal way. Their stings are compared to those of scorpions. A scorpion sting is one of the most painful injuries a human can receive and live to tell about it. The only people who won&#39;t get stung are those with the seal of the living God. When the locusts disappear, the darkness will probably also end. This will be the end of the first woe. Again, the whole thing lasts five months. There may then be a brief period of respite. But not for long. The Second Woe: The Two Witnesses Vs. The Two Beasts Sometime shortly after the first woe ends, a new horror will break forth on the world. Somewhere in the vicinity of Baghdad - why there, we don&#39;t know - a mysterious, and apparently demonic army will appear. Two hundred million strong, they will spread out throughout the surviving world and randomly kill another third - that is, half the surviving - human race. (See Zechariah 13: 8.) How long this lasts is not stated, but it probably won&#39;t be long, at most a few months. When it is over, the surviving world will be in a state of chaos such has never been known in human history. The Two Witnesses Out of the chaos two strange men will arise. They will be Christians, but there have never been Christians like these. They will be the most superhumanly powerful Christians who have ever lived. More powerful, in a way, than Jesus was during His life on earth. Like Jesus, they will work miracles. But these will not be benevolent miracles of healing and deliverance. These will be miracles of wrath. They may bring down a drought on earth that lasts the entire duration of their ministry. They may also strike the earth, where ever and whenever they wish with plagues like those of Egypt. And if anyone tries to harm them - and some people will - they will breath fire like dragons and kill them. And they preach a message. It will be a final, stern call to repentance. They will principally target the Christians who weren&#39;t ready and the unsaved Jews. For the human race, their ministry will be the last chance in this world for salvation and repentance. We know this from Revelation 10:7. The phrases &quot;the mystery of God...as He declared it..&quot; refer to salvation, not the end of the Tribulation. We know this from the Greek word translated &quot;declared&quot;. It is &quot;euaggelion&quot;. This happens to be the word from which we get our word &quot;evangelism&quot;. The phrase would be more completely translated &quot;declared it&#39;s good news&quot;. The passage says that the mystery would be &quot;finished&quot;, i.e. completed, when the seventh trumpet sounds. The seventh trumpet will sound right after the deaths of the Two Witnesses (Revelation 11:15). When they are gone, all chance of salvation is over. After that, it will be nothing but wrath. The Two Beasts Some time after the Two Witnesses begin their ministry, two other strange men will rise to power somewhere in the world. These are the men that the Book of Revelation calls the Two Beasts, the King and the False Prophet. They cannot rise to power at the same time as the Witnesses, because both the Witnesses and the Beasts are active for 3 1/2 year periods. The two periods have to overlap, since the first Beast kills the Two Witnesses. By how much time the periods overlap, we do not know. It could be as little as a few months, or as much as 2 1/2-3 years. The first Beast, again, is a king, though we might more likely describe him as a military dictator. His most distinguishing features are that he has a big mouth, making a lot of boasts exalting himself; he is invincible in war, and he will miraculously recover from a seemingly fatal head wound. The second Beast is the false prophet. He can make fire come down from heaven. He creates the statue of the first Beast and brings it to life, and by the context, he, not the first Beast, makes people take the dreaded Mark of the Beast, 666. Mystery Babylon The Two Beasts apparently rise to power with the support of something called &quot;Mystery Babylon&quot; or the &quot;Great Harlot&quot;. Catholics have tended to identify this as communism. Protestants tend to identify it with Catholicism or the New Age Movement, or both. But looking at the question of the identity of Mystery Babylon from the standpoint of history and some little - known prophecies, another, much more likely suspect becomes visible: Islam! In the Book of Zechariah, chapter 5, is a prophecy that may have a critical relationship to this issue. Zechariah is shown a woman in a large basket. The angel tells him, &quot;This is wickedness&quot;. He pushes the woman down into the basket and puts a lead lid on it. This appears to mean that the woman represents some kind of serious evil that at the time was being forcefully contained. The basket is then taken to Shinar, where, Zechariah is told, a house will be built for it and it will be set on it&#39;s base. Shinar is the land of Babylon. At the time that Zechariah had the vision, the Babylonian Empire had been conquered by the Persians and the city itself was in decline. Nothing has happened there since that might have any bearing on prophecy - until quite recently. Just within the past few decades, the land of Shinar, which includes most of Iraq and parts of Syria and Iran, has become the military and political base of fundamentalist Islam. Protestants have tended to see Mystery Babylon as being a revived Roman Empire. But in Revelation 17:8, the angel speaks of a Beast that &quot;was, and is not, yet is&quot;. At the time that the Book of Revelation was written, the Roman Empire was at its height. This could not refer to Rome. Then there is the fact that Mystery Babylon sits on seven hills (17:9). Again, this does sound like a reference to Rome. But the Greek word translated &quot;on&quot; can be just as legitimately translated &quot;near&quot;. There is another city of significance that, although it doesn&#39;t sit on seven hills, is surrounded by seven hills. That city is Mecca, the spiritual headquarters of Islam. Mecca can be considered an anti-Jerusalem. The Great Mosque and the Kaaba are to Muslims what the Temple and the Holy of Holies were to the Israelites of the Old Testament. The famous Black Stone (probably a meteorite) in the Kaaba is to Muslims what the Ark of the Covenant was to the Israelites, a physical manifestation of the presence of God. It is also possible that the &quot;seven hills&quot; are not meant literally at all. By Biblical symbolism, the &quot;seven hills&quot; could refer to a coalition of seven governments. This idea is supported by the statement in Revelation 13:1 that the First Beast has seven heads. What we should look for is a revived Babylonian Empire, dominated by Islam. This will require and alliance of Syria, Iran and Iraq. This is beginning to happen now. If you want to know whether this scenario is true, watch these countries. Watch for one person to rule all three countries. One important possibility, though, is that the Second Beast, the False Prophet, may be a Pope. This is suggested by the statements in Revelation 13:1 and 11 that show different sources for the Two Beasts. The False Prophet rises from &quot;the land&quot;, which could be a reference to the Church or Israel or both. The Third Woe: The Scorching Sun After the first Beast kills the Two Witnesses, and they rise from the dead and ascend to Heaven, there will be a local earthquake in Jerusalem that kills 7000 people. This will probably be immediate vengeance for what they did to the Two Witnesses. After that, there may be another brief period of respite. Then one day people will notice that the sun seems to be getting brighter and hotter than usual. They may tell themselves at first that they are imagining it. But they won&#39;t be able to keep that up for long. The sun will increase its output of energy by seven times. (See Isaiah 30:26.) It will be so bright that the light reflected from the moon will be as bright as normal sunlight. What will have happened is what scientists call a &quot;helium flash&quot; in the sun. The sun, as you probably know, gets its energy from a hydrogen fusion reaction that is constantly going on deep within it.. That fusion creates a lot of helium. After a period of time, the helium concentration builds up to the point that a helium fusion reaction spontaneously ignites in the sun. This, of course, results in a big increase in the sun&#39;s output of energy. But it isn&#39;t long until the helium is used up, and the reaction burns itself out. Then the sun goes back to something close to what is was before. But while it&#39;s happening, it will be literal hell on earth. For the people who go through it, this will be the worst part of the Tribulation, physically. But it is likely that all Christians and anyone else who hasn&#39;t taken the Mark of the Beast, especially children, will be supernaturally protected. This is the part of the Tribulation that will most directly and seriously threaten the extinction of the human race, and all other life on earth. People will survive because of all the water that will evaporate from the earth&#39;s surface. All the icecaps and glaciers will melt and the oceans may literally boil. The evaporated water will form a blanket of water vapor around the earth that will absorb or reflect much of the heat, and the melting and the evaporation itself will absorb a lot of the energy. When the &quot;helium flash&quot; ends, the cloud blanket will mostly collapse, in the greatest thunderstorm of all time. This will also trigger a global earthquake, brought on by the tectonic stresses on the earth&#39;s crust produced by all the melting of ice and the evaporation of water. But when it&#39;s over, for most of the world, the worst of the Tribulation will be over. Alas, Babylon! After the &quot;helium flash&quot;, there will be another phase of the Tribulation. But this time, it will be followers of traditional Islam who will do the most suffering. Because of their inability to do anything about the &quot;helium flash&quot;, there will be a falling out between the Beasts and their followers and the followers of tradition Islam. The Beasts will react by arresting, imprisoning, and killing tradition Muslims everywhere. This will be the fulfillment of the promise of Revelation 13:10. Muslims who have persecuted and killed Christians will find themselves being persecuted and killed by the very Beasts they had been serving. The climactic event of this will be that the Beast will destroy Mecca. Although there will not be a nuclear holocaust in connection with the Tribulation, there will be at least one nuke used. The Beast will use it to destroy Mecca. Alas Babylon! Or, &quot;good riddance to bad rubbish&quot;. The Second Coming of Christ After the destruction of Mecca, it will look like the Beast has finally won. The surviving world will be following a new form of Islam that worships the Beast as at least the Muslim messiah, or &quot;Imam Mahdi&quot;. Christianity will have effectively disappeared (See Daniel 12:7). The relatively few Christians who are left will be in hiding. In fact, they may be starving to death. But they will be able to do one thing: Pray! They will be praying, and with unity and fervor with which Christians have not prayed since the day of Pentecost, and they will have but one prayer request: &quot;Come, Lord Jesus! Come Quickly!&quot; Their prayers will be answered. Quickly! One morning, anywhere from a few days to a few weeks after Mecca is destroyed, just as the sun is rising over Jerusalem, the sky will suddenly go black. Then a sound will be heard throughout the world such as has never been heard in the history of the world. It will sound like a shofar, an Israeli ram&#39;s horn trumpet. But this is a sound that is heard everywhere. It shakes the earth and sky. It sends the Beasts and their followers to their knees in terror. It brings the saints to their feet in joy. The sound of the trumpet is quickly followed by another, equally unique sound. This is recognizably a shout, the voice of the archangel. It is a command. A command that cannot be disobeyed. In the twinkling of an eye, the dead in Christ are raised. The surviving saints light up like the sun. As the trumpet sounds, a great sign appears in Heaven. Probably, a gigantic glowing cross. It will be larger than the earth. No matter where you are, you see it. It is brighter than the sun, but you can&#39;t look away from it. Out of the cross comes something else. At first it just looks like a bunch of shining clouds. But as it gets closer, you can see that it is an army of angels, coming down through the sky toward Jerusalem, and at its head, The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The resurrected and transformed saints rise up like eagles to meet Him in the air. The sinful scream in terror. The saints shout for joy. Jesus has come. For Christians, the Great Tribulation is over. But not for the Beasts and their followers. The third woe isn&#39;t over yet. Armageddon! When Jesus returns, He will go to Jerusalem, where the blessed event called the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will take place. It will probably last about two weeks. But outside of Jerusalem, all is not well. The two Beasts are still alive and well, and they still have control over their followers. They will try to do what Muslims have been trying to do since the seventh century; get rid of Christianity by military force. During the &quot;helium flash&quot;, the call will have gone out for all the armies of the kings loyal to the Beasts to gather for an attack on Israel, which will probably have all turned to Christianity by that time. The armies will gather at a place in Israel presently known as the Plain of Esdraelon. It is a broad, triangular valley between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea just south of the Sea of Galilee. On the west, there is a hill on which a huge fortress stood in ancient times. The name of the hill has carried over as another name for the valley, Har Meggido, or, as we say it in English, Armageddon! They won&#39;t go there planning to fight there. It will be meant as an assembly point for the assault on Jerusalem. But most of them will never see Jerusalem. Just as they begin to launch their attack, Jesus, in Jerusalem, will briefly show His people that He is the God of the Old Testament as well as the New. He will literally roar. A roar that shakes earth and sky. A roar that is heard all the way to Armageddon. Panic will break out among the armies, and in their panic, they will start killing each other. Men will be going down like dominoes. But that won&#39;t be all. There will be one more astronomical catastrophe. If left to themselves, there would be survivors, enough to cause trouble later. God will not let any of them get away. He has another surprise in store. This one will be a comet collision of a much different type than the one at the beginning of the Tribulation. This will be much smaller, and it will enter the earth&#39;s atmosphere at such an angle that it will explode in mid air, right over Armageddon, like the air-burst of a hydrogen bomb, but without the radioactivity. In the time it takes to clap your hands, the entire army of the Beasts will be dead. But that won&#39;t be all. There are ten kings who support the Beasts. Their capitals and/or military bases will have to go. Other objects, probably pieces of the same comet, will hit them and wipe them out. The entire kingdom of the Beasts will cease to exist. Finally, the Two Beasts will have what might be called a Rapture of their own, but it won&#39;t be one that they will like. Angels will grab them and throw them alive into the lake of fire. And there they will stay forever. Satan will also be captured, but it won&#39;t be his time for the lake of fire yet. He will be chained in the bottomless pit for a 1000 years. What this means, we don&#39;t really know, but one thing is sure. He won&#39;t be able to bother anybody for a looonnng time. The Millennium When the Tribulation is over, the Millennium begins. There is little that can be said about this with certainty from the Scriptures. But one thing is sure. The Christians who really lived for Jesus in this life, and all the Tribulation saints, will be reigning with Him in a world that will be at peace.<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/489699/">I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/489699/">I also believe we should avoid the rush. We should be prepared by having asked Jesus to be the Lord of our lives and by bringing others to the saving Grace of Jesus Christ through our example and efforts. Then, no matter how things play out, we are covered.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-07-13T14:40:44Z 2009-07-13T14:40:44Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Anyone notice how Gray Obama is getting? http://www.sodahead.com/question/438889 <b>Anyone notice how Gray Obama is getting?</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/438889/"> <img alt="Anyone notice how Gray Obama is getting?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/4/3/8/8/8/9/polls_Obama_20gray_20cropped_thumb_350x502_5034_876088_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>199 answers</b>, <b>+39 raves</b> </div> My wife commented last night as we were watching the tube, how gray Dear Leader is getting all of a sudden! So he was either using some Grecian, or somethings goin&#39; on........(6 mos?)<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/438889/"> <img alt="He's running out of Grecain Formula!" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/4/3/8/8/8/9/polls_a17204c48b7b47bf63c0a56740a0ff6a_answer_2_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/438889/">He's running out of Grecain Formula!</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/438889/">It&#39;s probably not the first or last thing he&#39;s covered up.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-06-18T03:36:55Z 2009-06-18T03:36:55Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Obama ILLEGALLY Fires Inspector General for doing his job and investigating Obama's friend Mayor Kevin Johnson (Sacramento) http://www.sodahead.com/question/436883 <b>Obama ILLEGALLY Fires Inspector General for doing his job and investigating Obama's friend Mayor Kevin Johnson (Sacramento)</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/436883/"> <img alt="Obama ILLEGALLY Fires Inspector General for doing his job and investigating Obama&#39;s friend Mayor Kevin Johnson (Sacramento)" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/4/3/6/8/8/3/polls_GWalpin_3022_467278_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>39 answers</b>, <b>+12 raves</b> </div> Monday, June 15, 2009 Gerald Walpin President Barack Obama tried late last week to quietly fire an inspector general who had investigated a close political ally, a move that prompted attention from several media sources anyway. Obama terminated Gerald Walpin, inspector general of the Corporation for National and Community Service, which runs the AmeriCorps program, after Walpin launched an investigation last year that involved Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, a former NBA player who had founded a community group called St. HOPE Academy. Walpin’s audit of St. HOPE, which sought to find out how the organization had spent $847,673 in grant funds from AmeriCorps, came in the middle of Johnson’s reelection campaign. At that time, Walpin raised the specter of funds being diverted and misused by Johnson’s organization. The Democrat and supporter of Obama called the investigation “politically motivated,” and his aides brought up details about Walpin’s support for Republican Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney to indicate bias on his part. In 2007 and 2008, Walpin donated money to the presidential campaigns of Rudy Giuliani and John McCain. In April, St. HOPE Academy agreed to a settlement with the federal government to pay $423,836.50, of which $72,836.50 came out of Johnson’s pocket. Walpin was cut out of those negotiations to settle the matter. After hearing of the inspector general’s firing, Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) complained to Obama in a letter, which reminded him that he had supported legislation last year as a U.S. senator requiring the president to give Congress 30 days notice in writing of the reasons for terminating or transferring any inspector general.<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/436883/"> <img alt="NOT SHOCKED!" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/4/3/6/8/8/3/polls_blah_3322_823060_answer_2_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/436883/">NOT SHOCKED!</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/436883/">There he goes again, speaking with a forked tongue. No one could see that coming, could they?</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-06-17T21:56:51Z 2009-06-17T21:56:51Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Major General says president's eligibility needs proof. What do you think? http://www.sodahead.com/question/269428 <b>Major General says president's eligibility needs proof. What do you think?</b><br/><small>(SodaHead)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/269428/"> <img alt="Major General says president&#39;s eligibility needs proof. What do you think?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/9/4/2/8/polls_588_3353_251368_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>38 answers</b>, <b>+15 raves</b> </div> <A href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=90125" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=90125</A><br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/269428/">I need proof</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/269428/">I have written my US Representative and Senators pressing them to take the actions necessary to verify Obama&#39;s eligibility to be President.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-28T10:10:20Z 2009-02-28T10:10:20Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Do you prefer to drive an automatic transmition, or a manual? http://www.sodahead.com/question/266529 <b>Do you prefer to drive an automatic transmition, or a manual?</b><br/><small>(SodaHead)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/266529/"> <img alt="Do you prefer to drive an automatic transmition, or a manual?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/6/5/2/9/polls_2009_Audi_S4_MotorAuthority_006_4429_549613_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>29 answers</b>, <b>+13 raves</b> </div> <br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/266529/"> <img alt="Undecided" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/6/5/2/9/polls_FS_undecided_4623_29408_answer_101_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/266529/">Undecided</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/266529/">I love both. I just love to drive. I drive a stick to work and back every day for the mileage. Have a fair bit of stop and go traffic, but i put it in second leave some extra room and coast a lot. Don&#39;t have to shift as much that way. When I &#39;m cruising down the road with my honey in the navigators seat, I like an auto. That way I am free to hold hands as we go down the highway.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-27T03:03:59Z 2009-02-27T03:03:59Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" Do you think the Mexicans "US Civil rights were violated?" I know this man! He is a good person protecting his land from INVADERS!!!! http://www.sodahead.com/question/260779 <b>Do you think the Mexicans "US Civil rights were violated?" I know this man! He is a good person protecting his land from INVADERS!!!!</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260779/"> <img alt="Do you think the Mexicans &#34;US Civil rights were violated?&#34; I know this man! He is a good person protecting his land from INVADERS!!!!" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/0/7/7/9/polls_R.B1_5733_137213_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>15 answers</b>, <b>+2 raves</b> </div> Jury: Rancher didn&#39;t violate illegal immigrants&#39; rights By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN Associated Press Feb. 17, 2009, 8:16PM <A href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6267853.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6267853.html </A> TUCSON, Ariz. — A federal jury found Tuesday that a southern Arizona rancher didn&#39;t violate the civil rights of a group of illegal immigrants who said he detained them at gunpoint in 2004. The eight-member civil jury also found Roger Barnett wasn&#39;t liable on claims of battery and false imprisonment. But the jury did find him liable on four claims of assault and four claims of infliction of emotional distress and ordered Barnett to pay $77,804 in damages — $60,000 of which were punitive. Barnett declined to comment afterward, but one of his attorneys, David Hardy, said the plaintiffs lost on the bulk of their claims and that Barnett has a good basis for appeal on the two counts on which he lost. &quot;They won a fraction of the damages they were seeking,&quot; Hardy said. All six plaintiffs are citizens of Mexico, five of whom are living in the United States with visa applications pending, and the sixth resides in Mexico but was allowed into the U.S. for the trial, said Nina Perales, an attorney with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. She declined to say where in the U.S. they&#39;re residing. Perales called the outcome &quot;a resounding victory that sends a message that vigilante violence against immigrants will not be tolerated.&quot; David Urias, attorney for the plaintiffs, said, &quot;Obviously we are disappointed with some aspects of the verdict. But I think that overall this was a victory for the plaintiffs.&quot; For years, Arizona has been the busiest point along the Mexican border for illegal immigrants entering the United States. For more than a decade, Barnett has been a controversial figure in southern Arizona. He&#39;s known for aggressively patrolling his ranch property and along highways and roads in the area, often with his wife and brothers, on the lookout for illegal immigrants. The plaintiffs alleged that Barnett threatened them with his dog and told them he would shoot anyone who tried to escape. Barnett&#39;s lawyers argued that his land was inundated with illegal immigrants who left trash on his property, damaged his water supply and harmed his cattle. Barnett&#39;s wife and a brother were dismissed as defendants; in addition, 10 more people initially named as plaintiffs were dropped from the proceedings. Barnett has been known to wear a holstered 9-mm pistol on his hip and upon coming across groups of migrants, to flash a blue and gold badge resembling that of the highway patrol, with the wording &quot;Barnett Ranch Patrol. Cochise County. State of Arizona.&quot; The Barnetts detain and turn over those whom they encounter to the U.S. Border Patrol. In 2006, Barnett estimated that he had detained more than 10,000 illegal immigrants in 10 years. His actions have resulted in formal complaints from the Mexican government against what it considers vigilante actions, and in several other lawsuits, including one stemming from an October 2004 incident. In that case, a jury awarded a family of Mexican-Americans on a hunting trip $100,000 in damages, later upheld by the Arizona Supreme Court. Barnett&#39;s 22,000-acre ranch, about five miles north of the Mexican border, includes private and federal lease holdings in addition to nearly 14,000 acres of state-leased land<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260779/"> <img alt="No American Civil Rights are for Americans." src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/0/7/7/9/polls_MIHFPRDME_l_1129_461807_answer_1_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260779/">No American Civil Rights are for Americans.</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260779/">American CIVIL Rights are for Americans. In the Preamble to the Constitution it concludes with &quot;...do ordain and establish this Constitution FOR (emphasis added) the United States of America.&quot; That means it is for Americans. The Declaration of Independence declares, &quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.&quot; This clarifies, that all people deserve certain human rights. Neither document, in any way sets forth that all people inherently receive American civil rights. Quite the opposite, the US Constitution spells out that that only natural born citizens may be President and when Article 1, Section 8 stipulates for Congress to make laws regarding naturalization, it precludes any Juan, Jose or Pedro from simply walking across the border and being citizens and enjoying American Civil rights. The Fourteenth Amendment, which was written in 1868, to guarantee the recently freed slaves their citizenship, also denies American civil rights to non-citizens. &quot;All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” If one is here illegally, he, and his offspring, is not &quot;subject to the jurisdiction thereof,&quot; and is not entitled to American civil rights.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-26T08:24:14Z 2009-02-26T08:24:14Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" 16 illegals sue man. They claim violation of rights. They crossed his land, the rancher held them at gun poing until police arrived. The illegals broke into his home & killed his livestock. The rancher now lost the lawsuit and pays $90,000. Is this fair? http://www.sodahead.com/question/261319 <b>16 illegals sue man. They claim violation of rights. They crossed his land, the rancher held them at gun poing until police arrived. The illegals broke into his home & killed his livestock. The rancher now lost the lawsuit and pays $90,000. Is this fair?</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/261319/"> <img alt="16 illegals sue man. They claim violation of rights. They crossed his land, the rancher held them at gun poing until police arrived. The illegals broke into his home &amp; killed his livestock. The rancher now lost the lawsuit and pays $90,000. Is this fair?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/1/3/1/9/polls_20090208_201443_pic_699308194_r350x200_4935_249502_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>142 answers</b>, <b>+21 raves</b> </div> An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border. Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home. His Cross Rail Ranch near Douglas, Ariz., is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as &quot;the avenue of choice&quot; for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally. Trial continues Monday in the federal lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett&#39;s wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live. The civil trial is expected to continue until Friday. The lawsuit is based on a March 7, 2004, incident in a dry wash on the 22,000-acre ranch, when he approached a group of illegal immigrants while carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog. Attorneys for the immigrants - five women and 11 men who were trying to cross illegally into the United States - have accused Mr. Barnett of holding the group captive at gunpoint, threatening to turn his dog loose on them and saying he would shoot anyone who tried to escape. The immigrants are represented at trial by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), which also charged that Sheriff Dever did nothing to prevent Mr. Barnett from holding their clients at &quot;gunpoint, yelling obscenities at them and kicking one of the women.&quot; In the lawsuit, MALDEF said Mr. Barnett approached the group as the immigrants moved through his property, and that he was carrying a pistol and threatening them in English and Spanish. At one point, it said, Mr. Barnett&#39;s dog barked at several of the women and he yelled at them in Spanish, &quot;My dog is hungry and he&#39;s hungry for buttocks.&quot; The lawsuit said he then called his wife and two Border Patrol agents arrived at the site. It also said Mr. Barnett acknowledged that he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998. In March, U.S. District Judge John Roll rejected a motion by Mr. Barnett to have the charges dropped, ruling there was sufficient evidence to allow the matter to be presented to a jury. Mr. Barnett&#39;s attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants did not have the same rights as U.S. citizens. Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home. Some of his cattle died from ingesting the plastic bottles left behind by the immigrants, he said, adding that he installed a faucet on an 8,000-gallon water tank so the immigrants would stop damaging the tank to get water. Mr. Barnett said some of the ranch´s established immigrant trails were littered with trash 10 inches deep, including human waste, used toilet paper, soiled diapers, cigarette packs, clothes, backpacks, empty 1-gallon water bottles, chewing-gum wrappers and aluminum foil - which supposedly is used to pack the drugs the immigrant smugglers give their &quot;clients&quot; to keep them running. He said he carried a pistol during his searches for the immigrants and had a rifle in his truck &quot;for protection&quot; against immigrant and drug smugglers, who often are armed. ASSOCIATED PRESS DEFENDANT: Roger Barnett said he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998. A former Cochise County sheriff´s deputy who later was successful in the towing and propane business, Mr. Barnett spent $30,000 on electronic sensors, which he has hidden along established trails on his ranch. He searches the ranch for illegal immigrants in a pickup truck, dressed in a green shirt and camouflage hat, with his handgun and rifle, high-powered binoculars and a walkie-talkie. His sprawling ranch became an illegal-immigration highway when the Border Patrol diverted its attention to several border towns in an effort to take control of the established ports of entry. That effort moved the illegal immigrants to the remote areas of the border, including the Cross Rail Ranch. &quot;This is my land. I´m the victim here,&quot; Mr. Barnett said. &quot;When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back.&quot;<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/261319/"> <img alt="No, this is not fair. He was protecting his family and home. He was within the law." src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/1/3/1/9/polls_IllegalAliens_4954_376324_answer_1_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/261319/">No, this is not fair. He was protecting his family and home. He was within the law.</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/261319/">If he had killed them all, we wouldn&#39;t be having this discussion. He chose to be a decent human being and let the authorities get them; now, he&#39;s being punished. This case has no merit. The judge should be impeached and sent to Mexico to live.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-19T04:23:55Z 2009-02-19T04:23:55Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" 1957, It is September and the new cars are in the show rooms. http://www.sodahead.com/question/260611 <b>1957, It is September and the new cars are in the show rooms.</b><br/><small>(Living)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260611/"> <img alt="1957, It is September and the new cars are in the show rooms." src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/0/6/1/1/polls_1957_skyliner_2048_397812_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>50 answers</b>, <b>+18 raves</b> </div> What are you interested in purchasing? A Ford, Plymouth, Chevrolet, or maybe a Studebaker. Which of these ten 1957 cars I have listed would you like to own?<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260611/">All of the above</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260611/">I could add more to the list. When I was turning wrenches, I maintained 4 Studebakers for 1 gentleman. Two were show cars and the other 2 were for show. I maintained a beautiful 58 Chevy Bel Air convertible convertible for another customer. We also had a large variety of 60s muscle cars we maintained. My father raced 55 Chevys at a small racetrack in Houston during the late 60s and early 70s. Times were good.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-18T04:44:20Z 2009-02-18T04:44:20Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" I RECENTLY DECIDED TO MAKE A LIST OF THE TENETS OF MY "DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEFS." I WAS AMAZED AT HOW THE LIST GREW AS I WROTE. PERHAPS YOU MIGHT FIND IT INTERESTING TO VIEW. IF ANY IS OFFENSIVE TO YOU, YOU MAY SAY SO, BUT PLEASE DON'T ATTACK. http://www.sodahead.com/question/260562 <b>I RECENTLY DECIDED TO MAKE A LIST OF THE TENETS OF MY "DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEFS." I WAS AMAZED AT HOW THE LIST GREW AS I WROTE. PERHAPS YOU MIGHT FIND IT INTERESTING TO VIEW. IF ANY IS OFFENSIVE TO YOU, YOU MAY SAY SO, BUT PLEASE DON'T ATTACK.</b><br/><small>(Religion)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260562/"> <img alt="I RECENTLY DECIDED TO MAKE A LIST OF THE TENETS OF MY &#34;DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.&#34; I WAS AMAZED AT HOW THE LIST GREW AS I WROTE. PERHAPS YOU MIGHT FIND IT INTERESTING TO VIEW. IF ANY IS OFFENSIVE TO YOU, YOU MAY SAY SO, BUT PLEASE DON&#39;T ATTACK." src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/0/5/6/2/polls_moses_4043_620305_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>30 answers</b>, <b>+13 raves</b> </div> . <STRONG><U>PREAMBLE</U></STRONG> Y&#39;shua is Hebrew for Jesus. Abba YHWH, or Abba Jehovah is the Father, Y&#39;shua haMessiach is Jesus the Christ, and Ruach haQodesh is the Holy Spirit. The word “God” is an Anglicization of the Hebrew “echad,” which translates as “Unique One-ness.” I am not Jewish, but I do take it serious that Jesus said to the woman at the well, &quot;You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.&quot; Not for that reason alone, I have friends who are Messianic Jews, and take advantage of access I have to their materials. I turned away from Organized Religion when I went into the Army and to Vietnam, but some years later, my whole life crashed and I turned back; and God was gracious to receive me and has done a great deal to change me into what He wants me to be. He is not done, yet – He is still working on me. I must assure you, I am not an actor, not a hypocrite. I have decided to follow Jesus, and there will be no turning back.                              <STRONG><U>STATEMENTS</U></STRONG> I believe in God the Father, Jesus (God the Son), and the Holy Spirit. I believe that, according to Scripture, the three are Spiritually and Supernaturally the same entity, thus a Holy Trinity - a Triune God. I recognize that such belief does not square with human thought, but makes sense only in the spiritual realm. I believe that, according to Scripture, Jesus is the agent of Creation of the Cosmos, and of ourselves, at the behest of the Father. I believe that, according to Scripture, all human life is precious and eternal; and that Hell means a real and eternal separation from contact and fellowship with any in the Kingdom. I believe that the Fall of Mankind, and the subsequent Plan of Redemption are a deliberated plan, from the foundations of the Earth, established as remedy of losses incurred by the rebellion and subsequent fall of Lucifer. I believe that said plan was implemented with the full and sincere desire for the personal relationship between Creator and Created to be restored in every one of us, but also with the knowledge that such would not be the case. I believe that, according to Scripture, God is our only worthy Judge, and will judge all of mankind; and that judgment by mankind is limited to subjective discernment. Further, I believe that the exhibitions of Faith and Faithful Endurance will be held up in evidence against those who chose the path of unbelief. I believe that the Holy Bible, as originally written, is the inerrant and irrefutable message from God to mankind; while I acknowledge that translations contain errors, some unintended and some deliberate, and that not all ever written about Him is available today. I believe that the Holy Spirit of God is an available teacher to the faithful, and is able to impart knowledge, give guidance, and imbue power. I believe that, according to Scripture, Jesus was born of a normal Jewish Virgin, by the seeding of the Father God, and that she was wife to Joseph after she had born the Child of God, as evidenced by Scripture at Mark 6:3, &quot;Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?&quot; I believe that, according to Scripture, The True Church is founded on Jesus and not Peter. Peter (Petros) means “(smaller sized) rock,” and that Jesus is the (Petra) Rock (huge, or mountain sized) on which the True Church is founded. [ref: Matthew 16:18 Greek] I believe that, according to Scripture, the keys given to Peter by Jesus granted him direct access to the Father, to learn and disseminate only things which the Father had already bound and loosed in the Heavenly Realm regarding Earth. Such was primarily revealed in the Revelation of the Apocalypse. I believe that, according to Scripture, Peter was the Bishop of Jerusalem, and never the Bishop of Rome. Therefore, the Papal claim of ascendancy is a falsehood. I believe that, according to Scripture and anthropological investigation, Jesus was born at the time of a High Holy Day on the Jewish Calendar (one of the feasts where a sacrifice was required), and not at the Pagan Celebration of the Winter Solstice. I believe that, according to Scripture, Jesus taught that a person must be born flesh and blood, and be reborn in the Spirit by the will of the Father to be accepted into the Kingdom of God. I believe that, according to Scripture, the Believer cannot be taken from the Hand of God, but can turn away of his own volition. Simply saying &quot;I believe&quot; is inadequate; a lifestyle conversion is required. I believe that, according to Scripture <STRONG>and</STRONG> Secular History, Jesus was Crucified by Romans, at the behest of the Religious Leadership of His time, during the Feast of Passover. I believe that Easter is the celebration of a Pagan Fertility Goddess (thus evidenced by the rabbits and eggs), and those who go about to celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus on that day give affront to God Almighty if in ignorance: and those who, knowing that fact, teach others to celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus on that day embrace blasphemy. I believe that, according to Scripture, Jesus was Raised from the Dead in the selfsame body, and after fully three days in the grave, and in the same Feast of Passover occasion as the crucifixion. I believe that hardship and trouble are God&#39;s tools of teaching increased faith, patience, endurance, spiritual maturity, and character. There is no gain without pain, no growth without adversity; and, that is precisely the reason Lucifer and his rebels have been bound to Earth awaiting their judgment .. .. .. to provide the necessary stimulous for our spiritual growth. I believe that, according to Scripture, Jesus is the only mediator and intercessor between mankind and God. We may pray for others and others may pray for us, and be effective; but the real work remains the personal property of the Christ. Jesus said of Himself, &quot;I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” I further believe that, according to Scripture, no work or deed (the observances of sacraments included) could possibly assist or add to the Salvation offered by The Father, through Messiah; His words from the cross, “It is finished!” From there, only those works which follow Faith, and are according to the will of The Father will further the Journey of the Disciple. I believe that, according to Scripture, every Faithful and Obedient Believer is sanctified and ordained (a saint), and is able on God&#39;s authority <STRONG>only</STRONG> to exercise the gifts, signs, and miracles demonstrated by the Apostles. Obversely, I believe that, according to Scripture, persons in league with the Dark Lord may also be empowered to perform signs and wonders. I believe that, according to Scripture, Jesus was taken bodily into the Presence of the Father, is sitting at the right hand of the Power, and will return bodily to Earth to redeem His called, both those asleep in the spirit, and those still living at His appearing. I, personally, believe that the faithful will experience at least a part of the great, final trials (known as the Tribulation) of the Earth before the return of Messiah. I am not dogmatic in that belief, but I would rather be prepared than to meet with faith shaking surprise. It will all pan out according to God&#39;s Will. I believe that, according to Scripture, all who are found faithful - whose names are written in the Lamb&#39;s Book of Life - will be included in an eternal kingdom of priests who will minister, at the behest of the God, to all in the Cosmos who come after us. I believe that the warning at the end of the The Revelation of the Apocalypse are for that book only and not the whole of what is known as Canonized Scripture by any Organized Religion or Denomination. vis (chapter 22, at vv. 18-19): I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.                              “Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.”- Romans 8:35,37<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260562/"> <img alt="YOUR LIST IS FUNDAMENTALLY NOT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM MINE" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/6/0/5/6/2/polls_bob_400x300_image_4537_50841_answer_3_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260562/">YOUR LIST IS FUNDAMENTALLY NOT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM MINE</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/260562/">We agree at around 90%. I see no foundational differences. This is probably a good exercise, for all of us, to partake in at various times in our lives.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-18T04:17:58Z 2009-02-18T04:17:58Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" The Religious Right no longer wants to be referred to as 'The Religious Right'. What should we call them? http://www.sodahead.com/question/259207 <b>The Religious Right no longer wants to be referred to as 'The Religious Right'. What should we call them?</b><br/><small>(SodaHead)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259207/"> <img alt="The Religious Right no longer wants to be referred to as &#39;The Religious Right&#39;. What should we call them?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/9/2/0/7/polls__03B10E0E_D34E_492B_B6B1_1D99B4B81DD2__0111_72915_poll_large.gif" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>50 answers</b>, <b>+18 raves</b> </div> <A href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-rights-new-demand-stop-calling-us-religious-right" target="_blank">The Religious Right&#39;s New Demand: Stop Calling Us the Religious Right</A> <SUB>By Kyle | February 12, 2009 - 1:26pm </SUB> It seems that leaders of the Religious Right are tired of being associated with the Religious Right because nobody likes the Religious Right. Unfortunately for them, they are the Religious Right and that is what we are going to keep calling them, <A href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/februaryweb-only/106-42.0.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">especially now that they are saying we should stop calling them that</A>. &lt;hr/&gt; So... What should we call them?<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259207/"> <img alt="I have a better idea!" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/9/2/0/7/polls_super_excited_men_1138_316658_answer_4_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259207/">I have a better idea!</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259207/">I am a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ. I try to treat others, as I would like them to treat me, with kindness and respect. I, in many people&#39;s opinions, am a right winger. I believe in the US Constitution, as it was written, not as many would try to re-interpret it today. I believe our founding Fathers created a document and country far more noble than they actually were or probably claimed to be. I do not try to force my beliefs on anyone; However, I am more than happy to share them with anyone who asks. People can call me a religious nut, the religious right, the religious reich, or anything else you like. It doesn&#39;t matter to me. The vast majority of people today are too thin skinned and too quick to label others that are different from themselves. My thoughts, actions, and the way I treat others define who I am. My life in Christ defines who I am. Nothing anyone else has to say or think about Jesus Christ or myself can or will define who I am.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-17T23:15:11Z 2009-02-17T23:15:11Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" If your GF asked you to go to the store and pick her up a box of tampons, would you do it? http://www.sodahead.com/question/259997 <b>If your GF asked you to go to the store and pick her up a box of tampons, would you do it?</b><br/><small>(SodaHead)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259997/"> <img alt="If your GF asked you to go to the store and pick her up a box of tampons, would you do it?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/9/9/9/7/polls_ObedienceSchool_2431_939878_poll_large.gif" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>72 answers</b>, <b>+18 raves</b> </div> <br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259997/"> <img alt="Yes" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/9/9/9/7/polls_PussyWhipped_20Cover_2510_451770_answer_1_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259997/">Yes</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/259997/">Been there, done that.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-17T04:06:43Z 2009-02-17T04:06:43Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" DOES ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE??????????? is THIS the change we want?? http://www.sodahead.com/question/258833 <b>DOES ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE??????????? is THIS the change we want??</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258833/"> <img alt="DOES ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE??????????? is THIS the change we want??" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/8/8/3/3/polls_Davemalan_ObamaFairy_1449_648962_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>63 answers</b>, <b>+8 raves</b> </div> last week obama signed a declaration allowing hundreds of thousands of palestinians to re-settle in the USA.Sure what can go wrong when we allow thousands of these people who have been described as &quot;marinated&quot; in a &quot;sick death cult&quot;,who voted for hamas,and 55% of whom support SUICIDE bombings to live here and at the American tax payors expense? By executive order ,obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 Million dollars in &quot;migration &quot; assistance to the palestinians who wish to live here.this determination,which allows hundreds of thousands of palestinians to re-settle in the USA was signed on Jan. 27th,BUT DIDN&#39;T APPEAR ON THE FEDERAL REGISTER UNTILL FEB.4TH !!! pres. obamas decision according to the register,was necessitated by the &quot;urgent refugee and migration needs&quot; of the &quot;victims&quot;. Few on Capitol Hill took note that the &quot;order&quot; provides &quot;FREE TICKET,REPLETE WITH HOUSING,AND FOOD ALLOWANCES&quot; to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the &quot;ISLAMIC RESISTANCE MOVEMENT&quot; ( HAMAS ) . LETS REVIEW SOME OF OBAMAS MOST recent actions SINCE HIS INAUGURTION LESS THAN ONE MONTH AGO; 1.his 1st call to ANY HEAD of STATE was to Mahmoud Abbas,leader of the FATAH party in the West bank,not to one of our most loyal allies,Israel,or Great Britan. 2.His 1st one on one interview was with AL_Arabia news televison,WHICH IS NOT BROADCAST IN THE USA 3.ordered Guantanamo closed. 4.ordered ALL CIA overseas interrogation centers closed. 5.Withdrew ALL CHARGES against the MASTERMINDS behind the USS Cole and 9/11. 6.and now allowing thousands of palestinians with loyalties to HAMAS to relocate here,at taxpayer expense. DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PATTERN HERE?? SOURCE: WHIZBANGblog U.S. Federal Register political reporter Mark Steyn<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258833/"> <img alt="oh its ok,we have room for everyone,and barack loves us all,he will stretch out his mighty hand and protect us" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/8/8/3/3/polls_st_obama_of_assisi_4242_746497_answer_2_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258833/">oh its ok,we have room for everyone,and barack loves us all,he will stretch out his mighty hand and protect us</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258833/">NOT!</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-16T19:50:23Z 2009-02-16T19:50:23Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" White House lowers stimulus expectations and obama said last week that if he failed to heal the economy, he would be out of a job by 2012, when he faces re-election. Do you think he will be re-elected in 2012? And will this bill work? http://www.sodahead.com/question/258918 <b>White House lowers stimulus expectations and obama said last week that if he failed to heal the economy, he would be out of a job by 2012, when he faces re-election. Do you think he will be re-elected in 2012? And will this bill work?</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258918/"> <img alt="White House lowers stimulus expectations and obama said last week that if he failed to heal the economy, he would be out of a job by 2012, when he faces re-election. Do you think he will be re-elected in 2012? And will this bill work?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/8/9/1/8/polls_328549882v1_350x350_Front_2950_516442_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>106 answers</b>, <b>+23 raves</b> </div> White House dampens stimulus expectations President Barack Obama&#39;s aides warned Americans on Sunday not to expect instant miracles from the $787 billion economic stimulus bill he will sign this week, but said it would help eventually. Obama is due to sign the bill passed last week by Congress in Denver on Tuesday. It was the first major legislative victory of his young presidency, which could rise or fall with its success or failure. &quot;There will be signs of activity very quickly,&quot; David Axelrod, the White House senior adviser, said on &quot;Fox News Sunday.&quot; &quot;But it&#39;s going to take time for that to show up in the statistics. The president has said it&#39;s likely to get worse before it gets better.&quot; White House spokesman Robert Gibbs used similar language on CBS&#39; &quot;Face the Nation.&quot; &quot;I don&#39;t think there&#39;s any doubt that we&#39;ve seen this economy has gotten worse just in the last few months. The acceleration in job loss probably means that this economy is going to get worse before it gets better,&quot; he said. Obama himself said last week that if he failed to heal the economy, he would be out of a job by 2012, when he faces re-election. The White House hopes the package will save or create 3.5 million jobs. Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody&#39;s Economy.com, said on &quot;Fox News Sunday&quot; that was likely too optimistic. &quot;By my estimate, it will add 2 to 2.5 million jobs, more than would be the case without stimulus, by the end of 2010. That translates into a lower unemployment rate of about a point to a point and a half,&quot; he said. Only three Republican senators supported the bill and no Republicans in the House of Representatives backed it. They kept up their criticism on the Sunday television talk shows. &quot;This bill was not bipartisan. It is incredibly expensive. It has hundreds of billions of dollars in projects which will not yield in jobs,&quot; said John McCain, whom Obama defeated in last year&#39;s presidential election, said on CNN&#39;s &quot;State of the Union.&quot; Gibbs said Obama&#39;s team had crafted a stimulus bill to produce jobs as quickly as possible in an economy that lost 3.6 million in the past year. BALANCED APPROACH &quot;The urgency to get something done was very important,&quot; he said. &quot;What we have here is a very balanced approach that&#39;s going to put people to work.&quot; Obama faces a new potential flashpoint next week when two Detroit automakers, General Motors Corp and Chrysler LLC, must reach agreements with the United Auto Workers labor union to restructure themselves. Talks between GM and the union broke down on Saturday. Chrysler&#39;s negotiations with the UAW are also deadlocked. Axelrod made it clear the White House would not intervene in the situation until after Tuesday. &quot;Obviously, this is a difficult situation and everyone&#39;s going to have to continue to work toward a solution. We&#39;re going to wait and see what the automakers have to say on Tuesday and we&#39;ll go from there,&quot; he said. On a third front, Obama plans to issue a plan to tackle the housing crisis next week, hoping to stem a flood of home foreclosures that has weakened the banking system and frozen credit markets while continuing to depress house prices.<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258918/"> <img alt="Yes he will be re-elected in 2012 but the bill will NOT work." src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/8/9/1/8/polls__SPA_SPAGLOBELOGO_2818_250643_answer_4_small.gif" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258918/">Yes he will be re-elected in 2012 but the bill will NOT work.</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/258918/">He&#39;ll get re-elected no matter how badly the economy tanks. The Democrats will ramrod an amnesty bill, for the illegal aliens, and they will have bought millions more votes, plus the ACORN votes.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-16T19:13:09Z 2009-02-16T19:13:09Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" WAS OBAMA ARROGANT ENOUGH TO BE YELLING AT US AND TELLING US WHAT WE WILL DO BECAUSE HE SAID SO? http://www.sodahead.com/question/254626 <b>WAS OBAMA ARROGANT ENOUGH TO BE YELLING AT US AND TELLING US WHAT WE WILL DO BECAUSE HE SAID SO?</b><br/><small>(US)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/254626/"> <img alt="WAS OBAMA ARROGANT ENOUGH TO BE YELLING AT US AND TELLING US WHAT WE WILL DO BECAUSE HE SAID SO?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/4/6/2/6/polls_Obama_ate_the_mike_3319_715874_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>605 answers</b>, <b>+114 raves</b> </div> Say it isn&#39;t so Joe.... The attitude and tone of Obama last night was un-called for, childish, immature, un-becoming the Office of the President, and downright arrogant. I for one will not be strong armed by any individual who takes my money and squanders it to pay off his election debts to ACORN… or illegal immigrants. I have contacted my representatives again this morning through Congress.Org and insisted that they NOT support any part of the Stimulus bill before them. We are the Employer of all government employees, including the President. Last night was the tail wagging the dog. No one will speak to me in that tone or in that manner. I am not a child and will not be handled in a “daddy knows better” manner. None of us should be subject to this type of demeanor from our President. We are being manipulated by Obama and the rest of the Democrats. And those three Republicans that will vote with the Democrats need to stop saying they are Republicans. They are moles at best and traitors to the conservative values shared by many in this country. Obama had such a big smile on his face when asked about Biden’s 30% comment. Does anyone wonder why? It is because when this money does nothing to help, they will come to us again and demand more. The real truth is that this bill is not designed to help the economy. It is designed to pay off those who supported Obama’s run for POTUS. They know they will come back and ask for more. There are no guarantees. Obama is fear-mongering the American people. This bill has nothing but PORK in it and just because Obama says it does not, does not make it so. Strong arm tactics are unbecoming POTUS. Obaba’s real motives are starting to show….and the picture is not pretty.<br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/254626/">All of the above</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/254626/">He sounded condescending. He sounded like he was lecturing a bunch of kids, that he couldn&#39;t believe didn&#39;t already agree with him. He also sounded like he was campaigning. He acts like he believes he knows better than we do on almost everything. The CBO thinks the stimulus bill won&#39;t work, but Barack knows better. I&#39;m sure he&#39;ll find reason for a few more task forces. Bigger government is the answer. Let&#39;s heap more government on the backs of the people we are actually supposed to be serving. We can call him &quot;Sugar O&quot;, since he wants to give us everything we need.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-10T18:37:39Z 2009-02-10T18:37:39Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" If a baby is born a alive in an abortion clinic, should the abortionist kill the baby? http://www.sodahead.com/question/251302 <b>If a baby is born a alive in an abortion clinic, should the abortionist kill the baby?</b><br/><small>(Living)</small><br/><br/> <div><a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/251302/"> <img alt="If a baby is born a alive in an abortion clinic, should the abortionist kill the baby?" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/1/3/0/2/polls_1_2_3_1_13_0_0_0_0_0_0_2024_120141_poll_large.jpeg" align="top" border="0"/></a> <b>226 answers</b>, <b>+41 raves</b> </div> A baby was born alive to an adult woman at an abortion clinic. The abortionist arrived too late to perform the abortion but not too late to cut the umbilical cord of the baby and throw the living baby in a biohazard bag which was tossed in the garbage dumpster. Are you OK with this? <A href="http://www.buffalonews.com/260/story/570428.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Baby born alive in abortion clinic is killed by abortionist</A><br/><br/> LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved" answered <br/> <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/251302/"> <img alt="No, killing a baby fully delivered is wrong" src="http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/2/5/1/3/0/2/polls_baby_1857_485540_answer_2_small.jpeg" align="left" border="0"/></a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/251302/">No, killing a baby fully delivered is wrong</a> <br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;and said : <a href="http://www.sodahead.com/question/251302/">I don&#39;t think it&#39;s a choice at any time. The choice is whether to have sex or not. If the consequences aren&#39;t acceptable, don&#39;t perform the action.</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2009-02-06T19:22:45Z 2009-02-06T19:22:45Z LeeVee- "This is NOT White House approved"