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Better yet, let me put some facts where the rhetoric is. According to PregnancyAndBaby.com, "the heart... starts beating around the 22nd to 25th day after conception." That's less than one month! According to ePregnancy.com, at 10 weeks, the "brain is also moving like Greased Lightning: every minute it develops a quarter of a million new neurons." By week 12, the baby is "fully formed." So the baby has heart and brain activity both within the first trimester. Although it can be argued that life begins before those points, it is impossible to argue that life begins AFTER the brain and heart are both developed and working. More facts from PregnancyAndBaby.com: After 24 weeks, the "lungs are just starting to develop to the point that some babies -- with major intensive care -- may survive [outside the womb]." At 28 weeks, the eyes are open and babies inside the womb have responded to differences between light and dark. By week 36, "almost all babies born now will survive." At this point, it cannot be argued that the baby is "non-viable", unable to survive outside the womb. Abortion at this point can only be accurately described as "murder." Regardless of the circumstances, taking the life of an innocent child is not the answer. Rape and incest are horrible and nobody should ever have to go through them, but does their pain give them the right to murder a child? It's not the baby's fault. Don't punish the innocent baby, punish the rapist. There are a lot of people who would absolutely love to raise an "unwanted" child as their own, but the're on some long waiting list for an adoption that never seems to come. Have you ever seen a newborn in an orphanage? No, because everybody wants to adopt a newborn, but not a teenager. While that's tragic for orphaned teens, there is a huge demand for newborn babies! I do put my money where my mouth is. I work for a living and regularly give to my local church as well as worthy charities. But that's not the point. The point is, murder is murder and theft is theft, regardless of whether or not it's endorsed by a corrupt government. As to the Constitutionality of abortion, let's look at our country's founding documents: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." - The Declaration of Independence, ratified 7/4/1776 "No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." - U.S. Constitution, 5th Amendment, ratified 12/15/1791 "No State shall... deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." - U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment, ratified 7/9/1868 These rights are not given by government, but by God Himself. And they are not just afforded to American citizens, but to all mankind. The 5th and 14th Amendments protect the life of any and all "person"s, and that, as proven in the first part of this post, includes those yet to be born. Finally, I don't believe your argument is a good case for forced "universal health care" a la Hillary Clinton. I believe in helping the poor and needy, but I don't believe in a government stealing from the "rich" to redistribute to the "poor". I believe health care should be kept privatized, yet affordable. Let me donate to the charites I choose. The tragedies that you've listed do not legitimize theft (forced universal health care) and murder (abortion). Our corrupt government may be leaning in that direction, but it's not the Christian Way and it's certainly not the American Way.

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Decius Decius Aug 31, 2008 07:54AM GMTAugust 31, 2008 07:54:40