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Youth unemployment is as high as it was in the early 1980’s. Do you think kids today have a harder time finding jobs than their parents did at their age?

Fox Report with Shepard Smith 2012/07/26 15:32:50
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  • hasher DizziNY 2012/07/29 12:28:55
    hasher
    then who?? romney is a much more decent human being than obama. give him a chance. he is a person of character and and i believe he is honest. the more i hear romney the better i like him. he wasnt my first choice either as a rep candidate, but hes 1000 times better than obama. he is not a marxist far left wing socialist like obama.
  • Libertys Martyr 2012/07/27 17:37:37
    Yes
    Libertys Martyr
    +1
    Using government figures without all the don't count these people and don't count those people I got 24.3% unemployment. If you take the total population of 310 million and the total people with jobs of 132.2 million you get an unemployment of 57.4%. Of course this counts people under the age of 16, over the age of 70, and the independently wealthy. To get an unemployment figure of 8.3%, the percentage of people that fall into these three categories would have to be 49.1%. Can anyone in his right mind believe that?
  • smilinbobs 2012/07/27 17:30:50
    No
    smilinbobs
    +1
    I think much of the problem is that they say there aren't any jobs but what they mean is there aren't many of the fun jobs that pay lots of money that they want to do. Where I live one company has been trying to get employees for a third shift and young people come as well as older ones. The pay and benefit package isn't bad yet they work for a week or less then quit. As a young person I always found work it wasn't always what I wanted but it was full time work, My children 25yrs & 22yrs old have found the same to be true.
  • Cat 2012/07/27 17:02:06
    Yes
    Cat
    +2
    I've been talking to my parents about this. It was so easy for them to find a job in the 80's and I can't find a job.
  • gumybare69 2012/07/27 15:49:50
    Yes
    gumybare69
    +1
    They do where I live. Most of the traditional jobs that they have done in the past are now done by illegal aliens.
  • Scully+... gumybare69 2012/07/27 18:11:35
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    +1
    What are those jobs? Picking beans and strawberries and blackberries, maybe? That's what I and my brother and friends did when we were young. How about pruning and/or picking grapes? Cleaning motel rooms and washing and folding the linens in a 90 degree/95 percent humidity laundry room.

    How many jobs that have been 'taken' by 'illegal aliens' can you name that your average American young person today would choose to do?

    I have a friend who made a good living when he was younger contracting to replant logged forest land. When he got a contract for a unit and went to hire workers for the job, most of the white kids he approached didn't want to sweat or get their hands dirty, even though the pay was decent. The best and most reliable workers were the migrants.

    I have another friend who owns a vineyard. Same story: white kids won't do the work for any amount of pay, migrants are grateful, do the work well and none of them are illegal (there are penalties for employers who hire illegals).

    Are there exceptions? Absolutely, but they are exactly that: exceptions, not the norm.
  • gumybare69 Scully+... 2012/07/27 19:34:44
    gumybare69
    +2
    Here, most of the fast food jobs are done by hispanics, in fact you'd be hard pressed to find a resuraunt that doesn't have hispanics working there. I'm not racist, but I have seen hispanic managers only hire other hispanics even as local kids apply for those positions.. Maybe it has something to do with being able to understand spanish better, I don't know. recently I visited a friend of mine that lives in another part of my state and there is was completely opposite. Local HS kids were working those jobs but in his town there was almost no farm industry. Maybe that's the difference? I don't know. I'm simply making observations based on where I live and where I have been.

    I understand completely what your saying and the point your trying to make. Yes, some HS kids wont do certain things and that's fine, but others will. This is a very complicated situation and my remarks are made based on what I see and hear about.

    I don't think it's a fair assesment to say that white kids wont do those jobs. I know they will, and not all white kids are not reliable as you say.

    As far as I know, in my state there are no penalties for hiring Illegal Aliens. There are several companies here that use E-Verify but this is strictly optional. We have in the past tried to make it manditory but...







    Here, most of the fast food jobs are done by hispanics, in fact you'd be hard pressed to find a resuraunt that doesn't have hispanics working there. I'm not racist, but I have seen hispanic managers only hire other hispanics even as local kids apply for those positions.. Maybe it has something to do with being able to understand spanish better, I don't know. recently I visited a friend of mine that lives in another part of my state and there is was completely opposite. Local HS kids were working those jobs but in his town there was almost no farm industry. Maybe that's the difference? I don't know. I'm simply making observations based on where I live and where I have been.

    I understand completely what your saying and the point your trying to make. Yes, some HS kids wont do certain things and that's fine, but others will. This is a very complicated situation and my remarks are made based on what I see and hear about.

    I don't think it's a fair assesment to say that white kids wont do those jobs. I know they will, and not all white kids are not reliable as you say.

    As far as I know, in my state there are no penalties for hiring Illegal Aliens. There are several companies here that use E-Verify but this is strictly optional. We have in the past tried to make it manditory but it's always shot down because business owners don't want to pay for the screening. I think business prefer to hire Illegals because the workers get payed little and wouldn't complain if treated badly. All this serves is to build a system of slavery controlled by businesses that would rather pay under the table or have a work force that will work in bad conditions to serve their masters.

    Yes working in a laundry shop is hard work, but I've done worse because I needed the money.


    Signed,
    A white guy

    P.S. I have seen articles of farmers in my state that can't find anyone to pick the fields because none of the Hispanics wanted to do the job... They raised the pay a little and then white students did it. So as much as we love to use the term "they do jobs americans wont" I bet we'll see the day when that's no longer accurate. Not that it's even remotely accurate now.
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  • Scully+... gumybare69 2012/07/27 21:12:48
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    +3
    Thank you for a reasoned, rational response to my comments. I've seen much the same as you over the years: some situations that seem to support the assertion that "illegals are taking jobs away from Americans" and others that support the claim that "the migrants do the work that Anglos won't do." I'm sure both of those statements are true at different times in different situations.

    At this point in time I'm not sure what the best answer would be. I am certain that whatever it is won't be easy, simple or make everyone happy, but that is the kind of answer that the most vocal critics of the situation, as they see it, want and even demand. And I won't be surprised to see us go through two or three more election cycles before anything of substance is done.
  • gumybare69 Scully+... 2012/07/27 23:20:26
    gumybare69
    +2
    I totally agree!
  • hasher Scully+... 2012/07/29 12:34:29
    hasher
    not all white kids are like that. my kids would do just about anything and have done so. one of my kids has worked at fast food, construction, roofing, a potato farm, all kinds of jobs. i know some kids who feel like these jobs are " beneath" them but a job is a job.
  • Scully+... hasher 2012/07/29 20:07:06
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    I commend you for raising responsible kids. And I commend them for being responsible and contributing adults (I'm presuming they're adults now).

    Good job!
  • Professor Wizard 2012/07/27 15:49:39
    About the same
    Professor Wizard
    +2
    I suppose it depends on where you live...

    I have 3 kids... 2 graduated from college in the last 5 years.

    One moved to California - unemployed and unprepared - - he got a job at a major corp in his field of study inside of 60 days.... live in CA for 2 years, then moved to Omaha, where he found a better paying job in his field of study inside of 30 days.

    The other, got a job at home in her field of study before graduating.. worked for a year, then moved to Portland OR, for her husband, and had a job lined up before moving there.. then 3 years later, moved back here, and again had a job here locked up before coming back.

    3rd child is wrapping up school, and has 3 committed offers on the table for when he graduates. He has worked all the while in college, even changed jobs to get better hours... He has never had any issues finding work paying $12+ an hour while going school.

    I don't see a problem - for those who choose fields in demand, and who are willing to put forth the effort to find the jobs.

    But ... if you do nothing to be exceptional - or at least above average, then you will end up "hanging out" with all the other average or below average people. And if you choose fields that have no employment potential, then you end up potentially unemployed.

    While I did not "ha...
    I suppose it depends on where you live...

    I have 3 kids... 2 graduated from college in the last 5 years.

    One moved to California - unemployed and unprepared - - he got a job at a major corp in his field of study inside of 60 days.... live in CA for 2 years, then moved to Omaha, where he found a better paying job in his field of study inside of 30 days.

    The other, got a job at home in her field of study before graduating.. worked for a year, then moved to Portland OR, for her husband, and had a job lined up before moving there.. then 3 years later, moved back here, and again had a job here locked up before coming back.

    3rd child is wrapping up school, and has 3 committed offers on the table for when he graduates. He has worked all the while in college, even changed jobs to get better hours... He has never had any issues finding work paying $12+ an hour while going school.

    I don't see a problem - for those who choose fields in demand, and who are willing to put forth the effort to find the jobs.

    But ... if you do nothing to be exceptional - or at least above average, then you will end up "hanging out" with all the other average or below average people. And if you choose fields that have no employment potential, then you end up potentially unemployed.

    While I did not "have to"... I've changed my career twice since 2000, and had no problems switching, once I decided that was what I wanted to do. And I have the added generalized disadvantage of being an older gentleman.
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  • jere.ch... Profess... 2012/07/28 22:46:58
    jere.chievres
    It just shows that Art Majors and "Basketweaving" courses are not a viable career any more.
  • Ambassador II 2012/07/27 15:28:27
    Yes
    Ambassador II
    Surely the job market is tough today, the continuing result of thrity years of "Reaganomics" and moving our industries to other places where labor is much cheaper. However, of the jobs remaining, there are some reason why young people have a hard time finding one. The reasons are not particularly novel, just more widespread and prevalent. Let me cite just a few:

    Lacking any worthwhile skill, training, or knowledge.
    Lacking social skills and ability to communicate in understandable language.
    Lacking motivation to engage a job or any responsibility.
    Covered with tattoos or displaying other habits indicating questionable choices.
    Pot heads, unable to grasp events happening at the moment.
    Undereducated, undisciplined, unbathed, unattractive.
    Freakish or grunge dress, perhaps with body jewlery and orange or green hair.
    Bad attitudes, aggressive, passive, or simply stupid.
    Given to endless repetitons of "Dude", "hey man", and vulgarities.

    There are jobs available in many fields and activities, but employers haven't money to waste on those unwilling to learn, lift, or show up every day at the appointed time.

    Those with education, skills, willingness, and making an attractive presentation of themselves will find a job. The rest will, as always. slowly sink into a lifestyle of
    failure.
  • GLaDOS 2012/07/27 15:26:30
    About the same
    GLaDOS
    +1
    Though, possibly a little harder, given that there were many more manufacturing jobs in the United States in the 70's/80's, now much of it has gone overseas.
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/07/27 15:15:14
    Yes
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    Mine has. 20 or more teens looking for each, unless you know someone it's difficult.
  • OneLastWord 2012/07/27 15:09:50
    No
    OneLastWord
    +1
    Young? Not if their qualified, but right NOW it may be harder. Wait.

    People over 55 have harder times I’m told by post in the MSM papers, because of insurance, pay scale, even though older employee’s have greater experience and skills.

    Employers don’t want to pay the higher benefits for these older employee’s who are looking for work because their resent employer down-sized, sold out or changed their work requirements, and these older people were given severance packages. This is happening a lot right now.
  • harley oldman 2012/07/27 15:07:36
    Yes
    harley oldman
    +3
    YES....And not just the Youth. Four more years of this Freefall and we will be just like Greece is today.
    Maybe, just maybe, this would be a good time to WAKE UP.
  • Sunrise.Ashes 2012/07/27 15:05:10
    About the same
    Sunrise.Ashes
    +2
    Recessions seem to come around every few decades or so. When my parents were my age, there was a recession too, and they struggled for work. You take whatever comes your way.
  • Tannenberg1993 2012/07/27 14:52:40
    Yes
    Tannenberg1993
    +2
    It doesn't help that most employers want experience which can't be obtained if everybody wants it. I'm glad I grabbed a job years ago- it doesn't pay much and the hours are awful, but I guess it will function as a decent springboard.
  • InvaderXion420 2012/07/27 14:48:38
    No
    InvaderXion420
    +3
    I think the youth of today is lazy as hell and refuses to work because they know they don't necessarily have to given the current climate of everything-socialized.
  • me 2012/07/27 14:48:28
    Yes
    me
    +3
    But it is partly their own faults. The recent graduates I know who worked hard and engaged themselves in their college education have jobs. A couple of them have low paying internships but they were willing to take them. Problem is graduates who don't want to go above and beyond , take the lesser job and do what they can to get a job. The same generation support Obama, slam corporate America and the companies who PROVIDE the jobs. Not real sensical.
  • Angus 2012/07/27 14:42:58
    Yes
    Angus
    +2
    It would help their case though if they would get a degree in something useful.
  • Freeranger 2012/07/27 14:40:04
    About the same
    Freeranger
    +1
    I'd suspect the kids are having a harder time accepting the menial jobs their parents did.
  • davyd god loving patriot 2012/07/27 14:29:13
    Yes
    davyd god loving patriot
    +2
    kids in the 70's and 80's would work for much less than the video and text kids today. Besides nobama welfare will help them
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/27 14:26:50
    Yes
    jackolantyrn356
    +3
    WHAT JOBS?
    There are no real jobs
    Prostitution seems to be pushed by the UN on young people. And the Thug Life aint workmanlike it used to work.
  • DizziNY jackola... 2012/07/27 17:51:12
    DizziNY
    +1
    I have to work 2 jobs to survive so these kids can get one where ever they can find one. It's time for these spoiled brats to grow up and stop whining.
  • Terry McGinnis 2012/07/27 14:12:37
    Yes
    Terry McGinnis
    +1
    Totally...however, many of them lack the motivation to find one as well.
  • whocares 2012/07/27 14:01:26
    Yes
    whocares
    +3
    New job creation in their parents youth was primarily blue collar and manufacturing. Those jobs were sent overseas and are not as available. All you needed was a strong back and maybe a high school education or GED.

    Today's young people need more technical skills and a college education to get a foot on the door of any good company. Even the military looks for people with a college degree.

    So yes it is harder and that is why we need to focus on getting more young people prepared for the new technology jobs through higher education and training programs and that is what Democrats and President Obama is trying to do.

    obama 2012
  • C. C. R... whocares 2012/07/27 14:18:56
    C. C. Rider
    +2
    EXCELLENT POST!
  • OneLast... whocares 2012/07/27 15:18:54 (edited)
  • whocares OneLast... 2012/07/27 15:22:00
    whocares
    +2
    Blah blah blah- I'm a racist!

    That's all I heard!
  • DizziNY whocares 2012/07/27 17:53:21 (edited)
    DizziNY
    +2
    You know admitting your problem is the first step to recovery. It's good to see you admit you have a problem.

    Awwwww the little punk had to block me because I showed what an idiot you are. Lol, wimp. All you liberals are alike, you LOVE free speech until the other person's opinion isn't like yours. Stupid git.
  • whocares DizziNY 2012/07/27 18:15:22
    whocares
    The only one with a problem here is you and now you are not my problem!
  • OneLast... OneLast... 2012/07/27 18:15:34 (edited)
  • DizziNY OneLast... 2012/07/28 20:48:12
    DizziNY
    +2
    The idiot whocares blocked me because he has no leg to stand on. Lol, he hates the truth.
  • JP 2012/07/27 13:57:08
    Yes
    JP
    +2
    Obama's job market stinks!
  • Kigan 2012/07/27 13:36:31
    Yes
    Kigan
    +3
    There aren't as many jobs out there and the youth have to compete with those that have been working for years and lost their jobs to the bad economy.

    Really, it's bad for everyone right now.
  • Marianne 2012/07/27 13:30:15
    Yes
    Marianne
    +3
    Unfortunately yes.

    Also qualified and even PhD people need more time to find a convenient job, and work contracts are increasingly short-term contracts. Many must do jobs under their qualifications.

    As to unqualified workers, too many of them are seeking a job in vain.
  • kmay 2012/07/27 13:19:47 (edited)
    Yes
    kmay
    +2
    Even kids are over regulated by government. Can't sell lemon aide, hot dogs , candy etc. in front of the house, or door to door, anymore without a permit / health dept inspection etc..

    Ingenuity is controlled to death by the government!!

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