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"You didn't build that" Taken Out of Context By the Right?

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  • Schläue~© 2012/07/20 04:13:36
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    Schläue~©
    +12
    It was more than obvious what he was saying. It is his ideology.

    Sometimes a gaffe is nothing more than the truth slipping out.

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  • Drummerboy 2012/07/20 11:58:43
  • Dogzebra 2012/07/20 11:41:35 (edited)
    No
    Dogzebra
    +1
    Sounds as though Barry meant what he said and said what he meant in an easy to understand, concise manner. Go, Barry. We love you too man!

    adfh

    George did it!
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/07/20 11:39:47
    Yes
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +1
    Conservatives in general aren't very bright. They can understand how to run a business, but are clueless when it comes to macroeconomics.
  • Steve King 2012/07/20 11:17:42
    No
    Steve King
    +2
    This is what happens when Obama doesnt stay on the TelePrompter, his true agendas comes out and the Left scrambles to cover for him.
  • DS in Oak Ridge NC 2012/07/20 11:11:19
    Wait
    DS in Oak Ridge NC
    +1
    I get it now... Who should I believe - Obama, or my own lying ears and eyes. He said it, but just didn't want to say it so clearly or obviously.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/07/20 10:26:17
    Yes
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    As usual....
  • Drummerboy Lady Wh... 2012/07/20 11:36:52
  • Crypt_Heart 2012/07/20 09:36:10
    Yes
    Crypt_Heart
    +2
    It's all to do with punctuation and Obama screwed up his pauses. It doesn't sound right as two sentences.
  • mike 2012/07/20 08:21:23
    No
    mike
    +2
    This is who he is, a spoiled brat who's never had to work for anything, who's had it all handed to him.
  • JenSemPa 2012/07/20 08:06:21
    Wait
    JenSemPa
    +3
    That particular sentence/utterance may have been taken out of context ...

    ... but even so, the overall general theme of his speech was to downplay individual achievement, and to attribute all success to the helping hand of government.

    It wasn't as if this sentence was "taken out of context" in such a way as to completely twist his overall message.

    No ... rather, even when "taken out of context," the overall tone of his speech is still being represented accurately. Namely, that it was a speech given by the most anti-business, anti-private enterprise president in American history.

    I don't think that's even a debatable opinion now, not after what he said in Roanoke. It's a fact.
  • jon 2012/07/20 07:57:33
    No
    jon
    +1
    Taken Out of Context???? it is what he said out right and he went on too confirm his allegiance to the Marx / communist manifesto completely out side of any semblance to the American ethic Sinuno should not have retracted his statement about BHO "learning to be an American " because he is not American in any sense, People.. we have got to learn to quit apologizing to ass holes, liars, thieves, and the power hungry despots in politics.
  • angelbaby 2012/07/20 07:17:17
    No
    angelbaby
    It was very obvious ~
  • Charles Braley 2012/07/20 06:41:52
    No
    Charles Braley
    +2
    Sures sounded plain as day to me, that he was saying noobody got rich on their own initiative, like Henry Ford, Edison, Gates, Rockefeller, etc.
  • Crypt_H... Charles... 2012/07/20 09:41:38
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    Nada. What he was saying was no one got rich on their own...

    Didn't Henry Ford employ managers, factory workers? Did he not do business deals? Did he not have a team behind him to bounce ideas off? Didn't he get a lot of help from funders/financiers to start off with?

    When you start off a business, you get help.

    Microsoft didn't start off as just Gates idea either in fact, Gates and Jobs had worked together shortly before apple and Microsoft came basically on the back end of an apple product.

    Doesn't help that Romney said almost exactly the same thing a bit later. Team work and Cooperation. That is what builds companies.
  • Dagon 2012/07/20 06:33:41
  • TheTruth1313 2012/07/20 06:17:27
    No
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    Not at all. Just a look at what's on the dictator in chief's agenda.
  • KingdomNow 2012/07/20 05:49:27
    No
    KingdomNow
    +5
    The Fraud was speaking his little, out of touch mind to please his ignorant audience.
  • 3kidsandamom 2012/07/20 05:37:20
    No
    3kidsandamom
    +4
    Sorry like it or not Obama's real convictions against America are shining through with statements like these that go against everything that makes America great and unique in the world! He can't hide his distaste for those who have succeeded due to their personal work ethic that pushed them to be better. He hates the American way yet has no trouble using it for his personal gain, while demonizing others who do the same!He let the truth slip and is now trying to cover it by blaming others for using his words to show where he really stands!
  • Bruce 2012/07/20 05:31:15
    No
    Bruce
    +2
    YOu would have to be def to thinks Obama didn't say or mean exactly what everone heard him say.
  • Nimitz 2012/07/20 05:18:39 (edited)
    Yes
    Nimitz
    +4
    The statement was correct. NO ONE is truly 'self made.' We're all 'welfare recipients' to some degree. Every one of us stands on the shoulders of some one--be it our parents, our teachers, the boss who helped us get our start, nature or nature's God.

    That doesn't mean Obama should use such a fact as justification for forced redistribution of other people's property. Folks on the right are right to be pissed. They're just pissed at the wrong thing.
  • Crypt_H... Nimitz 2012/07/20 09:43:08
    Crypt_Heart
    +2
    Here here. =P
  • Lady Wh... Crypt_H... 2012/07/20 10:27:02
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    agreed
  • Pet Rock Whisperer 2012/07/20 05:13:28
    Yes
    Pet Rock Whisperer
    +6
    "Taken out of context" is a far too polite way of saying how the right has manipulated this to the point they have made it an outright lie! It's disgusting! I'm no fan of Obama and never was. But you have to be one stupid a** sheep to not be able to see what the right has done here!
  • JenSemPa Pet Roc... 2012/07/20 08:12:46
    JenSemPa
    +3
    That particular part of that particular sentence has been taken out of context, yes.

    But it has not been taken out of context for the purpose of distorting or twisting the overall theme of his speech.

    Even with "you didn't build that" being taken out of context, the overall theme and tone of Obama's speech is still being portrayed accurately by Romney and other conservatives.

    Even when we put the utterance back IN context, it's still clear that Obama is downplaying individual achievement, showing disdain for the private sector, and placing government front-and-center in everyone's life.

    Words are "taken out of context" sometimes for the deliberate purpose of utterly misrepresenting the speaker's or writer's overall message. That is not being done here with Obama's Roanoke speech.

    Whether "you didn't build that" is in context or out, Obama's anti-business, socialist ideology still comes through loud and clear in that speech.
  • Lady Wh... Pet Roc... 2012/07/20 10:27:16
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    SO agree
  • Drummerboy Pet Roc... 2012/07/20 11:38:43
  • flaca BN-0 2012/07/20 05:05:16
    Yes
    flaca BN-0
    +4
    of course it was taken out of context. And why? because they don't have anything to run on. It's obvious.
  • angelbaby flaca BN-0 2012/07/20 07:19:08
    angelbaby
    What was he actually saying then?
  • Crypt_H... angelbaby 2012/07/20 09:46:02
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    Something along the lines of. Individuals don't build businesses. Teamwork builds businesses. You find me a business owner that doesn't employ staff, does have suppliers, never has any assistance with how to run the business...never has any assistance at home. Then, make sure they're successful and earning over $150,000 a year.
  • Warren ... angelbaby 2012/07/20 11:52:02
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    The pronoun "that" was meant to refer to roads and bridges. I admit he should have dropped the pronoun and use the word "infrastructure" to avoid being deliberately misconstrued by the right wing media who are actively campaigning for Romney.
  • JenSemPa flaca BN-0 2012/07/20 08:14:59
    JenSemPa
    +1
    No, it's Obama who has no record to run on, genius.

    Yes, "you didn't build that" was taken out of context -- but the overall message in Obama's speech is still being described accurately. Namely, it's a message of being anti-business and entirely pro-government.

    It was an ideologically socialist message that, even with the out-of-context "you didn't build that" line put back IN context, is still the same.

    Only one sliver of his speech was taken out of context. But the speech's overall negative message is still being described accurately.
  • reaper 2012/07/20 05:04:14
  • JenSemPa reaper 2012/07/20 08:18:04
    JenSemPa
    +3
    Even when "you didn't build that" is put back IN context, it doesn't matter.

    Obama was still downplaying individual achievement. He was still speaking negatively about it.

    He was still showing disdain for private enterprise. He was still propping up government as the be-all and end-all of everything.

    By the way, do you know which PART of the government helped develop the Internet?

    It was the military. It was the one part of government that liberals like Obama generally dislike, and generally want to cut funding from.

    But he didn't tell us that. He didn't say the military helped develop the Internet. He said the "government" did.

    Technically true, since the military is part of the government, but it's still very misleading!
  • reaper JenSemPa 2012/07/20 08:34:45
  • Drummerboy reaper 2012/07/20 11:54:27
  • Drummerboy JenSemPa 2012/07/20 11:48:31
  • Warren ... JenSemPa 2012/07/20 11:57:35
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    DARPA is a civilian government agency, so he is correct. It is funded by the DoD, but could just as easily be funded by Energy or Commerce.
  • Don Leuty 2012/07/20 04:58:16
    No
    Don Leuty
    +5
    Lately, 0bama seems to open his mouth to change feet. He has expressed his distaste for the private sector numerous times It was pretty clear that his collectivist mind was engaged it this sppech.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/07/20 04:57:36
    No
    cmdrbnd007
    +3
    That's sure the spin the Obama campaign is trying to put on this but we all heard what he said. He is trying to make people think that successful people owe some of the credit to government but all government ever does is make it harder for the businessman or woman. Obama either doesn't understand the free market or he detests it and I'm not sure which but it could very well be both.
  • John "By God" American 2012/07/20 04:56:19
    No
    John "By God" American
    +4
    He was very clear about what he meant...

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