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Freeport Jobs To Be Outsourced At Bain Capital Company, Employees Want Romney To Step In

In response to more than 170 impending layoffs at Sensata Technologies, a Bain Capital-owned plant slated to be outsourced, a collection of community, religious, and labor leaders have promised to ban together and fight back to save the Freeport jobs.

“When I found out that my job was going to be shipped overseas to China ... at first I was angry, now just five or six months away from unemployment, I’m scared,” said Cheryl Randecker, a Sensata employee who has worked at the plant for 33 years. “As a single mother, I don’t just worry about myself, I actually worry about my daughter."

In early 2011, Sensata, a maker of sensors and controls that are used in aircraft, automobiles, and electric motors, announced it would be relocating the jobs in Freeport to China and closing the local plant. Normal operations have continued following the announcement, but hundreds of jobs are being phased out gradually and final layoffs are set to occur just before the holidays in December.

On a conference call Thursday, Randecker was joined by more than 10 community leaders and activists in a pledge to fight the impending layoffs.

“When I found out that I was losing my job I realized I couldn’t support my daughter’s education,” said Randecker on the conference call. “After working hard for so many years and giving so much to my job, I should be able to give my daughter a good education ... I don’t even know how I’m going to make my house payments and pay my bills.”

Randecker and her fellow employees are currently training their Chinese replacements, who have been flown to Illinois by the company, a process she says is “challenging.”

“We know now from a couple decades of experience how fully destructive outsourcing is, it’s creating a race to the bottom, it’s driving out wages and working conditions for workers all over this country, it’s leaving communities absolutely devastated and that’s what’s going to happen here if this proceeds,” said Carl Rosen, president of District 11 of the United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, on the conference all. “We frankly don’t know what Bain Capital is thinking.”

With a population less than 30,000, Freeport’s unemployment rate, at 10.4 percent in March, is more than the national average of 8.2 percent in May, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

“When a company like Sensata chooses to lay off workers and put profits over people, it’s inexcusable,” said Katelyn Johnson, executive director of Action Now, on the conference call. “Now more than ever we need good jobs in our communities, if Sensata follows through with it’s plan to lay off more than 170 workers it would devastate not just the families of the laid off workers, but the entire community of Freeport.”

In 1984 former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, presumptive nominee in 2012’s presidential election, helped found Bain Capital, and for nearly 15 years he was actively involved in running the private equity firm that owns Sensata Technologies.

Many of the people supporting Sensata workers have directed their fight to Romney. On Thursday’s conference call, Randecker asked the community leaders and organizations to sign a letter that will be sent to Romney, asking him to help save Illinois’ jobs. On June 18, while Romney was campaigning in Wisconsin, Randecker and more than a dozen of her fellow Sensata employees staged a protest urging Romney to visit Freeport to see firsthand the effects of outsourcing.

“If candidate Romney’s campaign promise is ‘creating jobs first,’ then let’s see if he can walk that talk. Part of creating good jobs in America is keeping the good jobs we already have,” said William McNary co-director of Citizen Action/Illinois, on the conference call. “Citizen Action joins the Sensata workers in calling on candidate Romney to step in and save the jobs of our sisters and brothers in Freeport and stop these good jobs from being shipped overseas to China.”

In addition to targeting Romney, this month’s Sensata rally also saw a petition being passed around, urging Congress to pass the Bring Jobs Home Act, which offers incentives for businesses to stay in the U.S. Randecker said the next rally for Sensata employees will occur on July 8 in Freeport.

Sensata Technologies’ officials were unavailable for comment.

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  • Diane 2012/06/30 22:02:25
    Its a race to the Bottom and everyone loves a great race
    Diane
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    Romney won't care. He's still heavily invested in Bain Capital, as his recent tax return showed. He's probably in favor of eliminating those jobs.

    Support the Bring Jobs Home Act. Send a letter to your congressmen telling them to support it. You can do that at the link below.

    http://www.opencongress.org/b...

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  • Diane 2012/06/30 22:02:25
    Its a race to the Bottom and everyone loves a great race
    Diane
    +5
    Romney won't care. He's still heavily invested in Bain Capital, as his recent tax return showed. He's probably in favor of eliminating those jobs.

    Support the Bring Jobs Home Act. Send a letter to your congressmen telling them to support it. You can do that at the link below.

    http://www.opencongress.org/b...
  • ☆stillt... Diane 2012/06/30 22:13:41
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    It at least is going in the right direction. I am not sure that it is going to be enough. Many have left do to too many regulation and high state taxes like in California.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/01 04:00:59
    aneed2know
    +2
    same ole Mantra, anything Business does is fine with you guys, but let the state do something well you guys act as if they stole your first born.

    The company is not in financial trouble, they are profitable what this is about is greed.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/06/30 21:25:59 (edited)
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    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I think they should go to the company and find out the reasons that they have chosen to move to china. Then work on those problems. Find out why they can not compete with other companies that are doing the same work and find out where their completion is located. What can the community do to help.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/01 04:01:14
    aneed2know
    +1
    Greed, its in the article
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/01 16:13:45
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    In some cases you are correct.
  • activ1 ☆stillt... 2012/07/01 15:22:28
    activ1
    +1
    The reason they move the jobs there is because they can pay Chinese people less than $2.00 an hour. If you think it's for any other reason, you are seriously naive.
  • ☆stillt... activ1 2012/07/01 16:13:18
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Yes, they do that as well, but that is not the primary reason.
  • activ1 ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 05:18:40
    activ1
    +2
    It absolutely IS the primary reason. Do you realkly think they would bother if Chinese people made even close to what American workers make per hour? They have done a great job at making unions the scapegoat, but if they were the real problem, they would have stayed in the so called "right to work" States.
  • ☆stillt... activ1 2012/07/04 05:58:54
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    There are many reasons why they have moved to other countries. Hughes connectors move to Mexico. Why, it was because of high taxes and over regulation. They paid to move most of their employees close to the border so that they could keep them. No ones wages were changed.
    CalsonicKansie moved to Mexico for the same reason. They tried to get me to move to Texas so that I could continue my employment.
    Allergan moved much of its operations to Puerto Rico for the same reasons. They moved the molding operation to Texas to get out of California.
    ITT Canon same thing. I worked for all these Companies and was part of their management. I sat in the meeting when they discussed the planned moves.
  • activ1 ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 06:05:47
    activ1
    +1
    I would say they are the exception, not the rule. There are still companies that manufacture goods here in the U.S. and they are still profitable. The problem is, no matter how much profit some of these people make, it can never be enough for them, and they don't care how many lives their greed destroys. I keep hearing people repeating the mantra about over regulation, but I have yet to hear anyone name the specific regulations that forced companies to outsource jobs.
  • ☆stillt... activ1 2012/07/04 06:37:04
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    There are only 134,723 pages of them. They have added more plus this does not count the EPA regulation. The number above was as of 1998.
    If you are a farmer there are 10,720 pages of regulation. These do not include state and local regulation.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/04 09:17:06
    aneed2know
    +1
    name them?
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/04 17:26:57
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    You know at times you are very foolish and make some very ignorant statements. This is one of those times my friend.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/05 04:09:32
    aneed2know
    +1
    name the regulation or regulations that are costing jobs, or are you just going by what Fox tells you? If i make a matter of fact statement like yours and some one asked me to name them i would so i could prove the person a fool. you cant name them, because you dont know what they hell you are talking about it. move along little kid.
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/05 05:56:57
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    How about farm dust regulation. Have you every worked around a farm when the brought in a crop or preparing the soil. That's a dumb one.
    http://lubbockonline.com/stor...
    Fortunately Congress passed a bill to stop the EPA on that one

    Chemical use and cleaning.. At one time we use alkaline for cleaning then used vinegar to bring it down to a PH of 7 then it went in too a settling tank. Then they decided they di not want use to do that so they had us change to using recoverable solvents. Then the morons change that to spray solvent. That was crazy. This was putting the solvent right into the air. We put more into the air with one can than we did in a month with the tank of solvents. The solvent in the tank was covered after use and had a refrigeration band that ran around the top and a rim that took it back to tank. Then they started penalizing us for using the cans of solvent charging us $27.50 per a case. The other thing was the solvent tank was taken out by a service every couple of month and the reclaimed the solvent and separated the oils and grease. We use to use the cans for a quick cleanup at the press. Neutralizing the Alkaline with a mild acid and diluting it with water was the safest process. The second best was the solvent tank. I have know idea as to wh...
    How about farm dust regulation. Have you every worked around a farm when the brought in a crop or preparing the soil. That's a dumb one.
    http://lubbockonline.com/stor...
    Fortunately Congress passed a bill to stop the EPA on that one

    Chemical use and cleaning.. At one time we use alkaline for cleaning then used vinegar to bring it down to a PH of 7 then it went in too a settling tank. Then they decided they di not want use to do that so they had us change to using recoverable solvents. Then the morons change that to spray solvent. That was crazy. This was putting the solvent right into the air. We put more into the air with one can than we did in a month with the tank of solvents. The solvent in the tank was covered after use and had a refrigeration band that ran around the top and a rim that took it back to tank. Then they started penalizing us for using the cans of solvent charging us $27.50 per a case. The other thing was the solvent tank was taken out by a service every couple of month and the reclaimed the solvent and separated the oils and grease. We use to use the cans for a quick cleanup at the press. Neutralizing the Alkaline with a mild acid and diluting it with water was the safest process. The second best was the solvent tank. I have know idea as to what they are doing now with the process. I tried to use hot soapy water which did not do the job and the company shut the operation down and shipped it to Mexico. We could no longer keep up with the manufacturing need here.
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  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/05 07:11:39
    aneed2know
    +1
    Oh you mean the non existing regulation that the EPA was suppose to go after, never existed and when it was talked about guess whose EPA it was, come on say it George Bush's EPA. Obama's EPA has never said anything about regulating farm dust.

    You really need to get off of sites that have a slanted bent to them, you fail, now how about showing us one that was passed and pushed by the Obama administration.

    House blocks nonexistent rule on farm dust:

    WASHINGTON—The House has passed a bill to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from cracking down on farm dust, even though the agency says it has no plans to regulate that pollution.

    The idea that farm dust could be regulated has proved a popular topic on the campaign trail, riding a wave of anti-regulation sentiment. Republicans and some Democrats have told farm-state audiences that the EPA is considering a crackdown on farms, even though the agency issued a public statement in October calling that a "myth."

    Environmental Protection Agency officials have said repeatedly that they won't propose new regulations to limit dust stirred up by farm equipment. But sponsors say the bill -- which passed 268-150, with the support of 33 Democrats -- will give more certainty to the agriculture industry and ward off potential lawsuits over t...

































    Oh you mean the non existing regulation that the EPA was suppose to go after, never existed and when it was talked about guess whose EPA it was, come on say it George Bush's EPA. Obama's EPA has never said anything about regulating farm dust.

    You really need to get off of sites that have a slanted bent to them, you fail, now how about showing us one that was passed and pushed by the Obama administration.

    House blocks nonexistent rule on farm dust:

    WASHINGTON—The House has passed a bill to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from cracking down on farm dust, even though the agency says it has no plans to regulate that pollution.

    The idea that farm dust could be regulated has proved a popular topic on the campaign trail, riding a wave of anti-regulation sentiment. Republicans and some Democrats have told farm-state audiences that the EPA is considering a crackdown on farms, even though the agency issued a public statement in October calling that a "myth."

    Environmental Protection Agency officials have said repeatedly that they won't propose new regulations to limit dust stirred up by farm equipment. But sponsors say the bill -- which passed 268-150, with the support of 33 Democrats -- will give more certainty to the agriculture industry and ward off potential lawsuits over the dust.

    The House GOP has pushed a host of measures this year aimed at weakening, delaying or scrapping environmental regulations, saying they view them as job killers.

    "This bill is a strong step in the right direction to reduce regulatory uncertainty," said South Dakota Rep. Kristi Noem, the Republican sponsor of the farm dust legislation. She added that the EPA's words "are empty promises until we back them up with real action."

    Other Republican supporters of the bill appeared to completely ignore the EPA's statements that there will be no new regulations.

    "Where's the EPA going to be next, checking under my bed for dust bunnies?" asked Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas. "The EPA's regulations on this are the height of overreach."

    Democratic opponents said the bill is a waste of time and written so broadly that it could go beyond just preventing farm dust, exempting mine operations and other industrial activities as well.

    "It's not really about farms at all," said California Rep. Henry Waxman, the top Democrat on the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

    The White House said Wednesday that President Barack Obama will veto the bill if it comes to his desk. An administration policy statement said the "ambiguously written bill would create high levels of regulatory uncertainty regarding emission control requirements that have been in place for years."

    The statement added that the legislation "purports to address a problem that does not exist."

    The bill is not expected to pass in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

    The dust flap dates back several years, to when Republican President George W. Bush's EPA proposed regulating rural and urban areas more equally when it comes to "coarse particulate matter" -- or soot -- in the air. Farms could fall under the tighter restrictions. Farm groups challenged that in court, and a federal appeals court ruled in February 2009 that the EPA had already provided the evidence necessary to determine farm dust "likely is not safe."

    Obama's EPA initially defended that decision. An EPA spokeswoman said after the ruling that regardless of whether someone lives in a rural or urban area, the threshold for unsafe levels of dust in the air should remain consistent nationally. But later, Jackson said the agency was unlikely to single out farm dust.

    Under current rules, states are tasked with making sure that their levels of particulate matter in the air are below certain levels. Farm groups have worried, however, that their pollution -- dust kicked up behind a combine, for example -- would be targeted separately.

    "Cattlemen and women worried about being fined for moving cattle, tilling a field or even driving down a dirt road should rest assured knowing that will not be allowed to happen on our watch," National Cattlemen's Beef Association President Bill Donald said in a statement after the vote.

    One major farm group called the bill a waste of time, however. National Farmers Union President Roger Johnson said misinformation spreading across the country has created unnecessary concern for farm country.

    "Congress should stop politicizing this issue and move on to passing meaningful legislation to help farmers, ranchers and rural communities," Johnson said

    http://www.boston.com/news/na...

    Next one please
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  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/05 07:54:54
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    That is correct it was under Bush. You should know by now that I am no fan of Bush or have you forgot?
    The EPA were talking about it and yes the house passed a bill to head them off and it was not a myth as they have said. Yes many of there regulation are job killers. They are still talking about dust and particulate matter from certain farm operation. Do you not understand how stupid this is? The morons have even been have conversation on curbing flatulence from cattle. Give me a break already.

    Why do you think that many molding jobs are now done in other countries. Especially die casting. Many plating operation are disappearing because of regulation.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/05 08:34:04 (edited)
    aneed2know
    Bush was talking about it not Obama and he never said anything like what you are saying, so now can we deal with reality and not some ESP BS.

    "Why does many any molding jobs are now done in other countries. Especially die casting. Many plating operation are disappearing because of regulation."

    Because you can pay them a 1.50 an hour with no benefits and pollute all you want that is why.
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/05 17:13:32
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Where did I mention Obama. I realize that he needs to be defended for what he has done, but I never mentioned him in this conversation.
    Those jobs went away because of over regulation. Die casting is a very dirty and hot operation. Plating you are exposed to lots of vapors and you are dressed in lots of protective gear made of rubber. They drove up the cost by making companies add scrubbers and started fining companies for the fumes that were coming out of the operation. They really put the pressure on larger companies that had plating operation.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/10 04:12:14
    aneed2know
    No more foolish then you, believing something when you cant even explain the topic you are dealing with. Now that is foolish.
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/10 04:26:02
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I am sorry that you do not understand what I have pointed out my friend. I put it in as simple terms as I could. I am sorry that you do not understand the terms that I have used. I even explained what a smog hog was and steps that companies have made to conform to regulation, but none of this has satisfied the the EPA as they just keep making the goal post move as if they are trying to force companies out of the country. California was even tougher than the EPA and now they do not have the jobs nor the tax base to sustain the state. That is why they are going bankrupt. They have got just what they deserve and earned.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/10 04:39:35
    aneed2know
    Look show one regulation that has caused job loss, that is all you have to do, just one and we can discuss it.
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/10 04:51:47
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I just walk you through air pollution standards that have cost jobs and explained what the companies did to comply. Every time they meet the new standard they changed the standard. It is like the standard for Ethanol where the ethanol standard calls out and additive that does not exist and they still fine the oil refineries.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/10 05:10:57
    aneed2know
    +1
    oh really show the documentation of these fines, and why. oh you did not walk through any air pollution regulations that Obama suggested or even thought about approving, what you did say was a Bush era consideration not an Obama one.
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/10 05:16:52 (edited)
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    http://www.environmentalleade...

    Under Bush and Obama. The EPA has even got tougher under Obama.
    This is why we have 33 coal fired generating plants scheduled to close this year and no way to make up the loss.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/10 06:00:19
    aneed2know
    okay you sited a link that says the fuel is not available, i found one that says it is, and it also says the government realizes there may be a problem with the availability of these fuels, which is why they are giving waivers.

    http://westernfarmpress.com/g...

    Now onto your coal powered plants, http://www.sourcewatch.org/in...
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/10 06:39:45
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    They levied the fines in 2010 and 11 when they failed to meet the requirement. I see they have lower the amount required for this year. If I remember correctly the were to use 500 million barrels of this additive for this year. It appears that the waiver began in 2011. They were suppose to use 250 million barrels of this additive that year. Thank You for the new information

    I already no about the coal one. The conversion will not happen to the 33 plants that I mentioned. There would have been more plants but some of them were able to convert to natural gas. This is still not going to help the energy that will be lost in areas where they are already having blackout and brownouts. We need these coal fired plants until they can be modernized or replaced. They requirement to eliminate CO2's is crazy as China is building a coal fired plant per a week on average. Yet the UN is not putting pressure on them nor India. Plus many of those plants are not as clean as ours. They use the excuse as they are developing counties. We need cheap energy if we are going to remain a productive county and we need to tell the UN and The EPA to go to H.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/10 06:47:22 (edited)
    aneed2know
    and why wont the conversion happen, come on say it with me, because they dont want it to happen? Yeah we need to tell the EPA to go to hell, because who needs to breath clean air or drink clean water?
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/10 07:06:39
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    You are over reacting with the air. We are talking about CO2 emission is what they are being shut down for not particulate matter. You know that stuff in the air that plants love as they turn it into Oxygen for us.
    You want to compensate for it replant our forests. Any way I am going to bed.
    You have a great morning!!
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/11 06:39:16
    aneed2know
    but that is just it, Obama did not out these standards into place, guess who did Bush. In fact it is the Obama EPA that has granted waivers when asked, nope the only thing going on now is stalling and waiting for some one who will allow them to pollute as must as they can with little or no penalties.

    And we can get to those standards if we wanted to, but the sad fact is we don't want to, or should i say those who would rape our environment for profit does not want to. It comes down to this, and this is the last time i am going to comment on it. Do we want to continue polluting the very thing that keeps us alive, or are we willing to sell the future of our planet to the highest bidder?

    http://www.wired.com/science/...
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/11 07:24:45
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Unlike the third world nation each of our generating plants do put out that much pollution. We are being held to a much higher standard that the rest of the world. I am not asking for any less restriction. I am asking for the EPA to back off any new Regulation and roll them back to earlier one Like getting rid of subsidize for corn ethanol. Even the environmentalist have said that it was a mistake. If our economy is going to grow we have to back off. We also need to develop our resources and Obama is not handing out permits for drilling. When he talks about all the oil that we have he is being deceptive as this oil is coming from private land. When we develop these resources the Federal Government need to stipulate that it is to be refined in america for americans. It also needs to be taxed just like the state make them pay for its removal. For the oil on public land belongs to the people. Same with natural gas and coal.
    Thank s for the article.
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/11 07:42:08
    aneed2know
    again false statements, if i can prove to you that what you said about "Obama is not handing out permits for drilling" will you concede that you have no ideal of what you are talking about?
  • aneed2know ☆stillt... 2012/07/11 07:45:58
  • ☆stillt... aneed2know 2012/07/11 17:37:31
  • activ1 ☆stillt... 2012/07/05 15:41:50
    activ1
    +1
    There need to be regulations in order to protect our health and safety, because businesses often have no regard for the harm their products and operations cause. Just look at the case with Glaxo just the other day.

    http://www.businessweek.com/a...

    Just because there are regulations doesn't mean they are ALL bad regulations. You are repeating that mantra, but you need to be specific about which ones need to be abolished. I know that the EPA saved my well from being further polluted by the scumbag up the hill from me who was illegally dumping chemicals. I know I still have to be careful about eating too many trout that I catch from my local creeks due to past pollution by scumbag business owners. The business community brought this on themselves.

    Having regulations in place doesn't mean that these businesses were "forced" to outsource jobs. They just chose to. Like I said, there are lots of people who still manufacture goods right here at home, and still make a good buck.
  • ☆stillt... activ1 2012/07/05 18:17:30
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    You do need some protection, but they also need to be sensible.
    Glaxo violated the FDA regulation. We are mainly talking EPA regulation.
    I never said that all regulation are bad. I remember when Hospitals use to dump there chemicals and pieces from surgery down the drain in the 50's. Buy the 60's this was all cleaned up. It was the mid 60's before they said that the fish in the Ohio river was safe to eat. Every company that I have ever worked for were very careful about their environment. ITT even add smog-hogs to clean the air in their molding, die cast and plating operations back in the mid 70's. What these did was remove particulate matter from the air. It collected them at the ceiling of the operation. This was not adequate by the 90's per the EPA and California. So these jobs went away to Mexico and some to other states. A smog-hog was a static air cleaner and filtration system. Now when these jobs left it was hundreds of jobs lost just in that one company. I was working in management so I have personal knowledge of what was going on. There was no way to conduct those operation with the standard that were set at that time and they are even stricter now.
    The EPA is fining refineries for not using a non existent additive.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=13197
    Yes you are...
    You do need some protection, but they also need to be sensible.
    Glaxo violated the FDA regulation. We are mainly talking EPA regulation.
    I never said that all regulation are bad. I remember when Hospitals use to dump there chemicals and pieces from surgery down the drain in the 50's. Buy the 60's this was all cleaned up. It was the mid 60's before they said that the fish in the Ohio river was safe to eat. Every company that I have ever worked for were very careful about their environment. ITT even add smog-hogs to clean the air in their molding, die cast and plating operations back in the mid 70's. What these did was remove particulate matter from the air. It collected them at the ceiling of the operation. This was not adequate by the 90's per the EPA and California. So these jobs went away to Mexico and some to other states. A smog-hog was a static air cleaner and filtration system. Now when these jobs left it was hundreds of jobs lost just in that one company. I was working in management so I have personal knowledge of what was going on. There was no way to conduct those operation with the standard that were set at that time and they are even stricter now.
    The EPA is fining refineries for not using a non existent additive.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=13197
    Yes you are going to have bad actors out there and the EPA serves a purpose. I am not one of those who wants them to go away. I want them to only do what Congress has told them to do and not make their own regulations.
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  • activ1 ☆stillt... 2012/07/06 04:21:06
    activ1
    +2
    I understand, but we have gone far afield from my original point. My point is, while your experiences might represent some job losses due to regulations, you will never convince me that the main reason the majority of these companies shipped jobs to China and India is not because of the near slave labor conditions available to them in those countries. I think this is born out by the recent shift of some manufacturing jobs returning to the U.S. because the cost of manufacturing goods in China is rising.

    http://www.areadevelopment.co...
  • ☆stillt... activ1 2012/07/06 04:52:18
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    Thank You for the article. We will have to see how it goes. This does not explain why the Government want to give tax incentive to get these companies back and take away the incentives that are in place to move off shore. So something is wrong here.

    It is not just regulations that have driven jobs off shore it is taxes and labor cost of course. The other problem that companies are running into is that to many are college grads, but have no skills. We need a skilled workers and they are not being taught skills.

    Again thank you. I am going to do some research on this subject.
  • activ1 ☆stillt... 2012/07/10 14:29:36
    activ1
    +1
    I agree that we need more skilled workers. That's why we need to support anyone who supports legislation designed to help reduce the cost of education for the middle class, and vote against those who oppose it. Thanks for the intelligent and respectful conversation.

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