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Yale Frat Chants 'We Love Sluts,' Gets Suspended: Should DKE Be Disbanded?

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There's a reason Ivy League schools cost so much: they produce our nation's best and brightest, the future leaders of the world, Wall Street titans, courtroom lions.

And, oh yeah, sexist pigs and rape mockers.

At least that's the case for Yale's formerly prestigious Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity, which was suspended for five years after ordering its pledges to chant obscenities and sexist slurs at women while parading through campus.

The frat, which counts both Bush presidents among its alumni, disciplined several members after the October incident, according to The Huffington Post. In a ruling on Tuesday, the university's executive committee ruled that DKE had violated the Undergraduate Regulations by threatening and intimidating others during the march.

Frat members chanted such slogans as "no means yes, yes means anal," "my name is Jack, I'm a necrophiliac" and "I f--- dead women" while holding up signs that read "we love Yale sluts."

Chapter leaders later apologized, but the national fraternity office ordered them to suspend all pledge activities; the ban was lifted less than a month later and the frat's international head dubbed the five-year ban "excessive" and planned an appeal.

Best and brightest, eh?

The Yale Daily News reported that the DKE incident capped a year-long debate on campus about the school's charged sexual climate and the university's response to several instances of sexual misconduct. A group of 16 students and alumni filed a complaint with Yale's Office of Civil Rights after the DKE march claiming that the school had a sexually hostile environment had failed to respond to sexual harassment concerns.

Did Yale frat get off easy for sexual chants march?
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  • Peter 2012/04/06 19:23:12
    No
    Peter
    There are only certain a select few types of girls that can handle a friends with benefits relationship. And those are girls with family issues, daddy issues and just plain sluts. But without these misfits, there wouldn't be so many happy guys out there who got to bang so many girls. These kinds of girls also happen to be the best in bed and the most adventurous. It goes without saying that dating one of these creatures is a terrible idea. I know quite a few of them and bang them whenever I'm bored, which is often. They know that I'm not interested in dating them and stop pursuing to save face. What a great deal!
  • Peter Feller 2012/02/09 23:01:31
    No
    Peter Feller
    Girls everywhere and all you emasculated "men" who are trying so hard to be politically correct at the expense of your masculinity, listen up.

    Men and women are equals. This does not mean that they are equal in every single thing they do. For example, men are, on average, physically stronger than women. It is much easier for a semi attractive (even a 6/10) woman to go out and get laid. The same cannot be said about men. Men have to work at it, have some skill (game) and thereby get a woman to sleep with them. It is a LOT harder for an equally attractive man to get women than it is the other way around. This is one of reasons behind why we, as a society, naturally celebrate men who are successful in bedding multiple women; while at the same time shame women who bed multiple men.

    Let us briefly visit the topic of virginity from both perspectives. Virginity in a man is not a desirable state or label when it comes to an attribute that the opposite sex wants. This is because he has obviously not been preselected by other women. However, female virginity is not looked at negatively in the least by men. If she looks decent, no man cares if the girl is a virgin or not. In fact, a female virgin is often wanted more.

    Now don't get me wrong, men LOVE sluts. We will never turn down a...



    Girls everywhere and all you emasculated "men" who are trying so hard to be politically correct at the expense of your masculinity, listen up.

    Men and women are equals. This does not mean that they are equal in every single thing they do. For example, men are, on average, physically stronger than women. It is much easier for a semi attractive (even a 6/10) woman to go out and get laid. The same cannot be said about men. Men have to work at it, have some skill (game) and thereby get a woman to sleep with them. It is a LOT harder for an equally attractive man to get women than it is the other way around. This is one of reasons behind why we, as a society, naturally celebrate men who are successful in bedding multiple women; while at the same time shame women who bed multiple men.

    Let us briefly visit the topic of virginity from both perspectives. Virginity in a man is not a desirable state or label when it comes to an attribute that the opposite sex wants. This is because he has obviously not been preselected by other women. However, female virginity is not looked at negatively in the least by men. If she looks decent, no man cares if the girl is a virgin or not. In fact, a female virgin is often wanted more.

    Now don't get me wrong, men LOVE sluts. We will never turn down an opportunity to sleep with a good looking slut. Partly because she's good in bed, partly because it's sex. But any decently intelligent, self-respecting man will know that it is a terrible idea to emotionally involve himself (i.e. date) with a slutty girl. That would be a very dumb move. Why would any man want to get emotionally involved with a girl who's had 15+ sexual partners? We would just be setting ourselves up for failure. There are many nice worthy girls out there who don't have daddy issues and haven't slept with an entire fraternity house. But, by all means, fvck the brains out of sluts in the meanwhile.

    Most guys can detect when a girl is a slut by the first few dates and by what he hears about the girl from other people and from the girl herlself. We put this information together and figure out if she is dating material or not. If not, I like most guys, will still go in for the prize but have no intention of following through with dating the dirty little tart.

    To put it simply, a lock that can be opened by many keys is a useless lock and of little worth. But a key that can open many locks is a master key and is valuable.
    (more)
  • No
    Revolution ATX ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    "Freedom of Speech" means you just MIGHT get your feelings hurt. Grow up, the world's a hard place.

    This article is an example of yellow journalism at its finest, capitalizing on any lingering anti-Bush sentiment to cast DKE in a negative light. According to Wikipedia:

    "Notable members

    DKE members have included five of forty-four Presidents of the United States: Rutherford B. Hayes, Theodore Roosevelt, Gerald Ford, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a member of the Alpha Chapter of DKE at Harvard; however, the chapter was de-recognized by DKE International due to the chapter's stance on dual membership with other fraternities.

    In the election of 1876, the Republican Party chose between two DKE members, nominating Hayes rather than rival and fellow DKE James G. Blaine. Blaine also ran unsuccessfully for President.

    Many American and Canadian politicians, businessmen, sports figures, and artists have been members, including Herb Kelleher, J.P. Morgan, Jr., William Randolph Hearst, Cole Porter, Henry Cabot Lodge, Dick Clark, Tom Landry, and George Steinbrenner. DKE flags were carried to the North Pole by its discoverer, Admiral Robert Peary and to the Moon by astronaut Alan Bean.

    During the Civil War, the first Union officer killed in battle...

    "Freedom of Speech" means you just MIGHT get your feelings hurt. Grow up, the world's a hard place.

    This article is an example of yellow journalism at its finest, capitalizing on any lingering anti-Bush sentiment to cast DKE in a negative light. According to Wikipedia:

    "Notable members

    DKE members have included five of forty-four Presidents of the United States: Rutherford B. Hayes, Theodore Roosevelt, Gerald Ford, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a member of the Alpha Chapter of DKE at Harvard; however, the chapter was de-recognized by DKE International due to the chapter's stance on dual membership with other fraternities.

    In the election of 1876, the Republican Party chose between two DKE members, nominating Hayes rather than rival and fellow DKE James G. Blaine. Blaine also ran unsuccessfully for President.

    Many American and Canadian politicians, businessmen, sports figures, and artists have been members, including Herb Kelleher, J.P. Morgan, Jr., William Randolph Hearst, Cole Porter, Henry Cabot Lodge, Dick Clark, Tom Landry, and George Steinbrenner. DKE flags were carried to the North Pole by its discoverer, Admiral Robert Peary and to the Moon by astronaut Alan Bean.

    During the Civil War, the first Union officer killed in battle was DKE member Theodore Winthrop of Phi. During the Spanish-American War, the first American officer to be killed was a DKE member, Surgeon John B. Gibbs (Rutgers). DKE member J. Frank Aldritch (DePauw University) died when the USS Maine was sunk"

    Yeah, sounds like a pretty bad crowd.
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  • Peter F... Revolut... 2012/02/09 23:01:03
    Peter Feller
    +2
    Girls everywhere and all you emasculated "men" who are trying so hard to be politically correct at the expense of your masculinity, listen up.

    Men and women are equals. This does not mean that they are equal in every single thing they do. For example, men are, on average, physically stronger than women. It is much easier for a semi attractive (even a 6/10) woman to go out and get laid. The same cannot be said about men. Men have to work at it, have some skill (game) and thereby get a woman to sleep with them. It is a LOT harder for an equally attractive man to get women than it is the other way around. This is one of reasons behind why we, as a society, naturally celebrate men who are successful in bedding multiple women; while at the same time shame women who bed multiple men.

    Let us briefly visit the topic of virginity from both perspectives. Virginity in a man is not a desirable state or label when it comes to an attribute that the opposite sex wants. This is because he has obviously not been preselected by other women. However, female virginity is not looked at negatively in the least by men. If she looks decent, no man cares if the girl is a virgin or not. In fact, a female virgin is often wanted more.

    Now don't get me wrong, men LOVE sluts. We will never turn down an oppo...



    Girls everywhere and all you emasculated "men" who are trying so hard to be politically correct at the expense of your masculinity, listen up.

    Men and women are equals. This does not mean that they are equal in every single thing they do. For example, men are, on average, physically stronger than women. It is much easier for a semi attractive (even a 6/10) woman to go out and get laid. The same cannot be said about men. Men have to work at it, have some skill (game) and thereby get a woman to sleep with them. It is a LOT harder for an equally attractive man to get women than it is the other way around. This is one of reasons behind why we, as a society, naturally celebrate men who are successful in bedding multiple women; while at the same time shame women who bed multiple men.

    Let us briefly visit the topic of virginity from both perspectives. Virginity in a man is not a desirable state or label when it comes to an attribute that the opposite sex wants. This is because he has obviously not been preselected by other women. However, female virginity is not looked at negatively in the least by men. If she looks decent, no man cares if the girl is a virgin or not. In fact, a female virgin is often wanted more.

    Now don't get me wrong, men LOVE sluts. We will never turn down an opportunity to sleep with a good looking slut. Partly because she's good in bed, partly because it's sex. But any decently intelligent, self-respecting man will know that it is a terrible idea to emotionally involve himself (i.e. date) with a slutty girl. That would be a very dumb move. Why would any man want to get emotionally involved with a girl who's had 15+ sexual partners? We would just be setting ourselves up for failure. There are many nice worthy girls out there who don't have daddy issues and haven't slept with an entire fraternity house. But, by all means, fvck the brains out of sluts in the meanwhile.

    Most guys can detect when a girl is a slut by the first few dates and by what he hears about the girl from other people and from the girl herlself. We put this information together and figure out if she is dating material or not. If not, I like most guys, will still go in for the prize but have no intention of following through with dating the dirty little tart.

    To put it simply, a lock that can be opened by many keys is a useless lock and of little worth. But a key that can open many locks is a master key and is valuable.
    (more)
  • G 2011/05/21 20:20:47
    No
    G
    All fraternities should be gassed, and then shot into space to ensure no survivors.
  • Welshtaff 2011/05/19 22:23:39
    Yes
    Welshtaff
    No reason for it
  • BobJessen 2011/05/19 15:19:24
    Yes
    BobJessen
    They Soiled their Linen...Needs New Nappies...
  • srini 2011/05/19 14:45:40
    Undecided
    srini
    How many of the DKE members are from Toronto aka Pigtown?
  • EdWhiteSpace 2011/05/19 14:42:26
    Undecided
    EdWhiteSpace
    I think 4 years would be appropriate so that any current members would be gone when it restarted with a new class. The frat clearly could care less about sexual misconduct or overly aggressive attitudes toward women and the school, which has looked the other way far too long, needs to say it will not be tolerated.
  • Nero 2011/05/19 14:02:36
    Yes
    Nero
    +1
    They should also be examined by a competent psychiatrist.
  • sockpuppet 2011/05/19 13:57:20 (edited)
    Undecided
    sockpuppet
    +1
    ASK ONE QUESTION... not two conflicting ones!

    You ask "Should DKE be disbanded?"

    ---AND---

    "Did Yale frat get off easy for sexual chants march?"

    You do this ALL THE TIME.
  • JeffSna... sockpuppet 2011/05/19 14:25:03
    JeffSnavely
    +1
    It happens so much that it has to be intentional.

    Not that sodahead writers give a crap about quality. They just want another click for their stats.
  • wtf 2011/05/19 13:48:42
    Yes
    wtf
    There is no need for that type of behavior on campus or anywhere else for that matter. Yale should be held to a high standard here.
  • ladypuppylove 2011/05/19 12:07:09
    Yes
    ladypuppylove
    I think they went to far , after all their mothers were women , wonder how do they feel since their sons said this
  • KoAm 2011/05/19 09:42:52
    Yes
    KoAm
    These guys seem like real pieces of work.

    I'm surprised to read that Bush 41 and Bush 43 are alumni of this frat. Both of them are such gentlemen.

    The current Yale membership of the frat don't seem to be gentlemen at all.
  • KaylaE 2011/05/19 08:51:42
    Yes
    KaylaE
    +2
    That is so wrong but I am sure they did it because they thought maybe it was funny but somebody needs to show them that it is not at all funny There are females and even males that get raped everyday and this is nothing to joke about What if it was one of their sisters or mother? They would feel terrible I'm sure so they should have taken that into consideration before saying any of that
  • KoAm KaylaE 2011/05/19 09:44:08
    KoAm
    +1
    We live in such a hypersexualized culture, that a frat shouting "we like sluts" doesn't really surprise me that much. It's still pretty disgusting, though.
  • KaylaE KoAm 2011/05/19 13:10:32
    KaylaE
    +1
    yes it doesnt surprise me either it's the other things they were saying like "no means yes, yes means anal" and "my name is Jack, I'm a necrophiliac" That to me is what should be addressed the thing about them talking about how they like sluts doesnt bother me because truthfully most guys do
  • PonToki 2011/05/19 08:05:41
    Yes
    PonToki
    ... I wonder if I'd be as offended still if I read that again as a man instead of a woman.

    Probably. That was just plain rude and obscene.
  • ih8uf 2011/05/19 07:16:28
    No
    ih8uf
    what college guys don't like sluts??? Sounds like Dean Wormer's lurking around Yale...
  • Casper4690 2011/05/19 07:12:29 (edited)
    Yes
    Casper4690
    Most Guys are full of shiiit believe me im a guy and I see everything that goes on .I'm sure mother raised them better. The Frat boys need a good ass wooping. Im sure they will be begging for mercy and saying no please. But according to them no means yes so let the ass woop continue. That'll teach them to shut the f**k up and respect all woman
  • Jareth Majere 2011/05/19 04:29:25
    Yes
    Jareth Majere
    These organizations at one time were supposed to be the best of the best. Now they'r an expensive fart joke promoting rape culture
  • Infidel for Freedom 2011/05/19 04:27:22
    No
    Infidel for Freedom
    F YALE UP THE NOSE WITH A SMEGMA-COVERED RUBBER HOSE!

    I was in a fraternity whose members (years after I graduated) was harrassed by the ultra-PC administration because the latter pack of wussy, anti-Greek douchebags objected to an "offensive" T-shirt image.

    If these A-hole universities want to address a REAL problem -- how about STOPPING their outrageous discrimination ("affirmative action") against white males?
  • Brad Kirkegaard 2011/05/19 03:51:21
    No
    Brad Kirkegaard
    MABEY IN THEIR MIND IT'S A PROPER NOUN
  • Markie 2011/05/19 02:40:31
    Yes
    Markie
    +1
    Both Bushes being members is reason enough to get rid of this group. Disband and bury this house!
  • BishopDeNeumoustier 2011/05/19 02:07:11
    Yes
    BishopDeNeumoustier
    ANIMAL HOOOOOOUSE!
  • Cliff 2011/05/19 02:05:25
    Yes
    Cliff
    +2
    As I understand it, fraternities exist under the auspices and regulation of the the school and the actions of those fraternities directly affect the estimation that the community has of the school. The school has every right and maybe an obligation to the community and the alumni to maintain its reputation as an honorable and dignified institution.
  • Nona 2011/05/19 01:35:33
    Yes
    Nona
    +2
    "ordering its pledges to chant obscenities and sexist slurs at women while parading through campus"

    Last time I heard, that was called sexual harassment, and is not acceptable.

    "no means yes, yes means anal,"

    Clearly advocating, and could even be taken as THREATENING rape, and should all be held for police questioning to rule out being sexual offenders
  • FUS RO DAH! 2011/05/19 01:29:52
    No
    FUS RO DAH!
    sluts

    Sluts are Nice
  • keliffa 2011/05/19 01:25:32
    Yes
    keliffa
    +1
    Normally I would say no, free speech but this goes beyond that.
    This is threatening behavior.
  • Eric 2011/05/19 01:09:41
    No
    Eric
    +1
    Wouldn't the responsible party be the people who actually said something?
    We are getting so carried away with blaming organizations for what some idiots in the organization do.
    And then there is the separate issue about whether freedom of speech is being violated here.
  • Aardfay Eric 2011/08/29 22:33:54
    Aardfay
    What speech?
  • debrarae POTL _ PWCM 2011/05/19 00:43:03
    Undecided
    debrarae POTL _ PWCM
    They were punished. IF they haven't a record of 'past behavior' .......then no they shouldn't be suspended. If yes, than yes .........disbanned them.
  • MOMMA THOMAS 2011/05/19 00:36:39
    Yes
    MOMMA THOMAS
    +1
    SOMETIMES FRATS NEED SERIOUS EXAMPLES OF DISCIPLINE SO THAT THEY BECOME BELIEVERS.....
  • nightlight 2011/05/19 00:16:51
    Undecided
    nightlight
    +1
    This is a case where freedom of speech on one side and common decency and respectable behavior on the other come into conflict.
    I grew up in New Orleans and I well remember the DKE house in the university/uptown/garden district area of the city.
    In the middle of the street on the block where this house was situated were painted in huge, neet white letters the words DKE DRUNK ZONE. Though this was absolutely illegal, they somehow got away with it for decades.
    DKE is sort of the Frankenstein version of "Animal House".
    But a fraternity or its members can be notorious for throwing wild parties, engaging in questionable behavior, and being decidedly uncivilized without chanting sexually charged and threatening slurs against the female students at the university.
    They shouldn't be disbanded but they should be prevented for carrying out such atrocities in the future - and if a law suit or police intervention is needed, so be it.
  • ↓←↑♣→NVL←♣↑→↓ 2011/05/19 00:03:08 (edited)
    Yes
    ↓←↑♣→NVL←♣↑→↓
    they should punish those who were involved not the whole fraternity. But this is just digusting, I can't believe senseless, sexist pigs, deuce bag idiots get to go to Yale while others with more common sense can't afford to go to Yale.
  • metalmike13- Trust No One 2011/05/19 00:00:33 (edited)
    Undecided
    metalmike13- Trust No One
    Isn't that what fraternities do? fraternities animal house fraternities animal house fraternities animal house
  • Brandon 2011/05/18 23:53:31
    No
    Brandon
    Who doesn't love sluts? I mean come one lets be real here. They are around and we know who they are. Lets think of a Politically Correct term......easy women...no, fast girls....no.....screw it they are just sluts part of society and we lov'em!
  • KB 2011/05/18 23:32:48
    Undecided
    KB
    +1
    I wouldn't go announcing to the world if I was a necrophiliac
  • Wahvlvke 2011/05/18 23:20:41
    No
    Wahvlvke
    If the women can have a "sluts" march then surely the frat boys should be allowed to shout it. The spineless PC educrats are at it again.

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