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Yahweh and his racist holocausts. Alright with you?

DefendnProtect 2012/03/02 16:55:26
I ignore it and take it more ´symbolic´
I ignore it and take my directions from Jesus
I think murder by or for the Chosen people is ok
I think murder by or for Yahweh is ok
I don´t believe this stuff, it´s rabid Anti-Semitism
I disapprove of murder in any form and want people living together in liberty
Maybe I should not support everything in the Old Testament
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The old testament of the bible, the Jewish part especially is full of racist-religious murders by G_d or his Chosen people.

David Slaughters Them

"And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes..." (I Chronicles 20:3)

Comment

Chapters 17-19 (17-18-19) tells us that David killed 22,000 Syrians and that Abishai killed 18,000 Edomites. No one expresses shame at such slaughters.

Here in 20:3, we have David, counted as a great leader of the Israelites, slaughtering captives after the cessation of hostilities. From what high moral ground should we admire this action?

Decapitate Them!

"And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel. And the LORD said unto Moses, 'Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'" (Numbers 25:3-4)

Comment

Those who worshipped other gods must die, and even more horribly, their heads displayed publicly. Either God never said anything so cruel, or we truly live in a cursed universe, ruled by a maniac Supreme Being.

Millions of people, today, switch their religions. If God had any interest in this ongoing process, there appears no evidence of this.

Gideon Slaughters

"And Gideon said, Therefore when the Lord hath delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into mine hand, then I will tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness and with briers" (Judges 8:7)

"Now Zebah and Zalmunna were Karkor, and their hosts with them, about fifteen thousand men, all that were left of all the hosts of the children of the east: for there fell an hundred and twenty thousand men that drew sword." (Judges 8:10)

Comment

The Gideon Society places Bibles into motels and hotels across America. One would assume Gideon lived as a person of exemplary character and great worth to have a worldwide society named after him. Below describes some of Gideon's accomplishments:

  • Gideon slaughtered thousands in battle by plotting with the "Lord" to use Treachery.
  • Gideon murdered thousands more for worshipping "false Gods."
  • Gideon tortured and killed still more for daring to taunt him.
  • Gideon plundered the bodies of his victims (to fashion a jeweled priestly vestment).
  • Gideon fathered an offspring who killed 69 of his stepbrothers.

Read the story of Gideon in Judges, chapters thru 6-9 ( 6-7-8-9). The tale of Gideon describes just one of the many horror stories in the Bible, a book that glorifies behavior abysmal to modern society. The clergy and leaders have hoodwinked millions of people about the stories in the Bible. Don't let others decide for yourself.

God Buries Them Alive

"And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense." (Numbers 16:32-35)

Comment

Moses relays a sadistic threat that asks us to believe that God punishes members of families, including innocent infants. And again we have the Satanic fire coming from God burning his creations.

God Kills The Firstborns!

"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)

Comment

If we believe every word in the Bible as coming from God, then it stands to reason that the violent actions from the God described in Exodus cannot give us a moral comparison to live our lives in a peaceful world.

If one wishes to believe that God possess love for His creations, then the killing of innocent children cannot possibly come from God, and therefore, these verses from the Bible must have come elsewhere. But note that if one takes the Bible's words as absolute truth, then not only did God smote the firstborn children, but all firstborn regardless of age. This means all firstborn teenagers, firstborn men & women, firstborn octogenarians, and even all firstborn cows and bulls. Regardless of how much love, charity, or goodness they may have imparted to the world, if they had the unfortunate luck to have first passed through their mother's vagina in the land of Egypt, according to the Bible, God killed them!

God Sends Pestilence

"Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel..." (I Chronicles 21:12)

"So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men." (I Chronicles 21:14)

Comment

David made an offense against God in taking a census of the people, so God gave David a choice. Oddly enough, David ignores God and never actually gets around to making a choice; so the Lord makes the decision for him and sends pestilence upon Israel.

It appears unclear as to why David committed a crime, but why shouldn't God have punished individual offenders instead of killing an army of innocent bystanders? Atrocities such as this appear outrageous enough when perpetrated by Attila the Hun, Hitler or Pol Pot, but when it comes from a, supposedly, loving God, it should make one wonder if this represents a Devil instead of a God.

God Slaughters Blacks

"And there came out against them Zerah the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand, and three hundred chariots..." (II Chronicles 14:9)

So the LORD smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. (II Chronicles 14:12)

Comment

It appears that Black Christian Bible studies programs ignore these verses, for it says that the Lord God slaughtered over a million blacks.

The association of black with evil goes far back in Western Christian culture. The early Church fathers, Origen, Jerome, and Augustine of Hippo wrote about devils appearing as Ethiopians.

White racist groups (such as the Ku Klux Klan who think of themselves as opposite of black devils) see these Biblical verses as evidence to justify their beliefs. We still hear phrases such as "Prince of Darkness" or "Black magic" which link blackness with sin.

In the story of Ham and Japheth, the word "ham" has connotations of "hot" and "dark" in Semitic languages. To the ancient Israelites, as well as some modern Jews and Christians, the "children of Ham" had dark skin and lived in eastern Africa. Thus they see the "Curse of Ham" as a link with black skin and sexual license.

God's Threat To Kill

"And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts." (Exodus 11:4-5)

Comment

After reading such verses, it would become apparent, even to a child, that this does not describe the actions of a loving Being. Anyone who reconciles the killing of innocent children with an intelligent and loving Creator can only come from great ignorance under the addiction of blind faith.

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize humankind."

--Thomas Paine

Godly Head Wounds

"But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such a one as goeth on still in his trespasses. The Lord said, I will bring again from Bashan, I will bring my people again from the depths of the sea: That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same." (Psalms 68:21-23)

Comment

If anyone believes these sadistic words come from God, then it might serve prudence to stay away from such people. For anyone who holds to such beliefs may very well do the same to others.

Godly Mass Murder

"And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." (I Samuel 6:19)

Comment

Here we have just one more instance of God performing mass murder, a sadistic killer far worse than Hitler, Attila the Hun or Pol Pot.

These verses should insult the intelligence of any person who thinks that God possesses a loving nature.

One should not dismiss the Old Testament's repeated demand for the vilest atrocities as something peculiar to the early Hebrews. Even today, our most atrocious wars, terrorism and hate crimes occur around the world based on ancient religious beliefs, many of them coming directly from verses in the Old and New Testament.

For more and source
http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible3.htm#babylon-is-fallen

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  • prayer warrior 2012/03/18 20:34:16
    I want to say this about it...
    prayer warrior
    +2
    Well because something happened and I was not there but wrong is wrong just like truth is truth. The fact is all of the people the Jews were killing was their cousins son's of Ishmael. The Arab people that can trace their line back to Abraham.

    The Jews killed people to protect themselves but slaughtering folks for the sake of slaughter is bad. Some was self defense and others were down right slaughter.

    We have people today and they state they are not the blame for what happened before they were born but the question is was it wrong? The question is yes.

    People use the bible to justify anything they do right or wrong. It was used to justify slavery and it was used to justify war. But does that make it correct?

    The fact is Jesus was not blue eyed but he was a man of color because He was from the house of David and the tribe of Judah which is a dark tribe. The man who's face we use for Jesus was the son of a Catholic pope and if you look up Caersar Borgias you will see Jesus 's face. This man was anything but Christ like.
  • Defendn... prayer ... 2012/03/18 20:50:54 (edited)
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Interesting, only knew Caesar Borgias was a very cruel dictator, a role model for Machiavelli. Thank you for your warning against the misuse of the Bible and the info about Caesar, my friend!

     Caesar Borgias
    Caesar Borgias, cruel dictator in Italy 1500.
  • prayer ... Defendn... 2012/03/18 21:27:37
  • jean 2012/03/03 08:09:54
    I want to say this about it...
    jean
    +1
    God is not a man.

    JUDGMENT -

    4 After the LORD your God has driven them out before you, do not say to yourself, “The LORD has brought me here to take possession of this land because of my righteousness.” No, it is on account of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD is going to drive them out before you. 5 It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the LORD your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 6 Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that the LORD your God is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people.
  • Defendn... jean 2012/03/03 08:17:24
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    Thanks for your reply.

    Why does alleged wickedness justify murder and genocide for you? Why not is God a light for these people showing them better ways in your opinion?
  • jean Defendn... 2012/03/03 08:24:13
    jean
    +1
    ALLEGED WICKEDNESS? Uh that is for us lowly humans - not an infinite God. What you call murder and genocide God calls judgment. Since HE is the LORD of History I will leave that to HIM. Say maybe God knows a few things that you and I don't about these people.
  • Defendn... jean 2012/03/03 08:29:09
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Ok. I guess we disagree. For me murder and genocide is murder and genocide. I think it's disgusting to call it judgement.
  • jean Defendn... 2012/03/03 08:40:10
    jean
    +1
    Well sir you can take that up with THE JUDGE when you face HIM.
  • Defendn... jean 2012/03/03 08:49:22
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    If he does exist, I will stand up before him. calling him a despicable genocidal racist demanding him to repent his crimes against humanity. After that the 'peace lover' can throw me in hell, while my conscious will be saved from condoning crimes against humanity.
  • jean Defendn... 2012/03/03 08:52:56
    jean
    +1
    NO you won't. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the LIVING GOD." You will be hiding under the rocks like everyone else."People will call upon the rocks to fall on them to hide them from the wrath of Jesus"
  • Defendn... jean 2012/03/03 08:57:50
    DefendnProtect
    LOL, I already called him out. First time I was afraid, now I'm truthfully unafraid.
  • jean Defendn... 2012/03/03 08:58:43
    jean
    +1
    Your words - your choice dear friend. Good luck with that.
  • Defendn... jean 2012/03/03 08:59:56
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Thanks. All the best!
  • jean Defendn... 2012/03/03 09:01:25
    jean
    +1
    To you as well sir!
  • owen Defendn... 2012/03/03 11:34:39
    owen
    +3
    God is certainly real and so is the Devil
  • prayer ... Defendn... 2012/03/18 20:40:24
    prayer warrior
    +1
    Lol I disagree here because if this is the Creator that you are standing before and He is all powerful you will be in awe of Him. You must remember that killing is something man does with great glee. And does not need someone to tell him to kill.
    Have a good day my friend . I don't have all the answers as to why all the death in the bible. But since the time of Christ this same God is a loving God. Not one of vengence.
  • Defendn... prayer ... 2012/03/24 01:24:38
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    'But since the time of Christ this same God is a loving God. Not one of vengence.'
    Great. That means God and I can probably agree on the evil of crimes against humanity and that his book has partly been falsified by humans to do war. I rather have a civilized conversation before being thrown into hell, where I meet my ancestors ;-)

    http://sjeltur.nl/remembering...
  • prayer ... Defendn... 2012/03/24 21:19:43 (edited)
    prayer warrior
    +1
    Well I never said that man didn't use the bible to justify what he wants to do. I doubt if your ancestors are in hell but if you don't believe in Him or hell you will be talking to no one.
    Have you posted anything interesting lately ?

    religion and politics get rehashed all the time.

    Thank you for that link very interesting and is his ancestors in hellI don't know. Thank you again for providing knowledge.
  • Defendn... prayer ... 2012/03/24 21:33:28
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Thank you for your nice comments.

    I'm mostly here to learn and get more people questioning the things MSM wants us to believe in order to help world peace on earth.

    Politics, religion and economics is mostly driving the wars...
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • prayer ... Defendn... 2012/03/24 23:46:18
    prayer warrior
    +1
    You are right and if we were honest and followed those religions that are suppose to support world peace we would be better off.

    Thank you for your kind words also
    We need world peace
  • owen jean 2012/03/03 11:38:54
    owen
    +1
    That day is very near Jean.
  • owen Defendn... 2012/03/03 11:38:01
    owen
    The zionist element in Israel(so called) are the evil ones and Jesus will sort them out.Pretty soon the people will come out of the churches as they were asked to do.They will unite .
  • kiwimac jean 2012/03/24 01:05:15
    kiwimac
    Are you suggesting that our moral code is higher than God's?
  • jean kiwimac 2012/03/24 03:04:40
    jean
    Humanity has no moral code.
  • kiwimac jean 2012/03/24 07:28:09
    kiwimac
    Heiferdust
  • Bocephus 2012/03/02 20:24:36
    I think murder by or for Yahweh is ok
    Bocephus
    +2
    GOD gives and GOD takes. You are either with him or against him.

    And I am sure he had a good reason. Future hellions and killing their own. GOD had to stop this.
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 20:29:24
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Thanks for reacting. Do you think God is omnipotent, controls and is responsible for every killing?
  • Bocephus Defendn... 2012/03/02 21:14:27
    Bocephus
    +2
    Ultimately . Their may have been some Jews who didn't want to fight but in the end the will of GOD is always carried out. GOD is nature and has a way of cleaning it's self . If their is evil and blood in the land it sets of a spiritual reaction.

    From the smallest matters of “chance,” such as the casting of a lot into the lap (Pro 16:33), to the greatest events of the earth's mighty kingdoms (e.g. Isa 45:1-4), God is bringing all things to pass according to his will. He governs and superintends “coincidental” happenings (1Ki 22:20, 34, 37)
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 21:19:35
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    If 'God is bringing all things to pass according to his will' and 'governs and superintends “coincidental” happenings', why the need for him to murder so much?
  • Bocephus Defendn... 2012/03/02 21:24:57 (edited)
    Bocephus
    +2
    Cleaning the land. Those people were non believers . They knew who GOD was but went a different way. They made their beds.

    Am I suppose to feel bad for these people? I am given a choice also. Follow GOD and have a good life . Or not follow GOD , sin, and die. That easy
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 21:27:14
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    Ok. I think ethnic cleansing is disgusting. What do you think?
  • Bocephus Defendn... 2012/03/02 21:30:06
    Bocephus
    +2
    I think if you mess with GOD you better watch your back.
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 21:52:21
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    I think the GOD concept is an invention of the human mind. The contradiction in the bible between peace loving and his racist-religious holocausts, is just too much for me.
  • Bocephus Defendn... 2012/03/02 22:06:38
    Bocephus
    +1
    Your a non believer . I don't expect you to get it. I expect you to stop judging GOD and come to him before it's to late. Fear of the Lord is the first step toward wisdom. GOD is not a hippie. It would be wise not to cross him.


    GOD has emotion. It is just stronger . You don't think he feels?

    I don't blame him at all. If a race of people kill there babies and sacrifice them then why shouldn't GOD stop it?



    Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 22:21:56
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    It is GOD himself that many times murdered innocents. Read above scriptures please!

    God Kills The Firstborns!
    "And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)
  • Bocephus Defendn... 2012/03/02 22:49:51
    Bocephus
    +2
    I read them . What do you want me to say? Do you think Because of that I will turn my back on GOD?

    You don't know me.
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 22:59:04
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    You can believe what ever you want. I just want to know IF you approve of the racists holocausts in the Bible. And if so why?
  • Bocephus Defendn... 2012/03/02 23:01:16
    Bocephus
    +1
    I already told you why . Clearly you are not paying attention. Read everything I wrote for the last 5 comments . You will get your why there .
  • Defendn... Bocephus 2012/03/02 23:04:15
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Ok. thanks for sharing your view.
  • jean Defendn... 2012/03/03 08:28:14
    jean
    +1
    << Isaiah 57:1 >>
    The righteous perish, and no one ponders it in his heart; devout men are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil.

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