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strawberry 2012/06/17 00:05:55
I DON'T WANT A DRAFT DODGER AS MY AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
MITT ROMNEY IS A HYPOCRIT, LIAR, AND COWARD.
I DON'T CARE MITT ROMNEY WAS A DRAFT DODGER.
THOSE IN MY FAMILY LOST THEIR LIVES IN VIETNAM.
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"Mitt Romney Faces New Scrutiny Over Vietnam War - Era Draft Deferments"
By STEVE PEOPLES 06/05/12 12:53 PM ET AP

"SAN DIEGO - On a stage crowded with war heroes, Mitt Romney recently praised the sacrifice "of the great men and women of every generation who serve in our armed services."

It is a sacrifice the Republican presidential candidate did not make.
Though an early supporter of the Vietnam War, Romney avoided military service at the height of the fighting after receiving four draft deferments, according to Selective Service records. They included college deferments and a 31 - month stretch as "minister of religion" in France, a classification for Mormon missionaries that the church at the time feared was being overused. The country was cutting troop levels by the time he became eligible for the draft, and his lottery number was not called.

President Barack Obama, Romney's opponent in this year's campaign, did not serve in the military either. The Democrat 50, was a child during the Vietnam conflict and did not enlist when he was older.

But because Romney, now 65, was of draft age during Vietnam, his military background - or, rather lack of one - is facing new scrutiny as he courts veterans and makes his case to the nation to be commander in chief. He's also intensified his criticism lately of Obama's plans to scale back the nation's military commitments abroad, suggesting that Romney would pursue aggressive foreign policy as president that could involve U.S. troops.

A look at Romney's relationship with Vietnam offers a window into a 1960's world that allowed him to avoid combat as fighting peaked. His story also demonstrated his commitment to the Mormon Church, which he rarely discusses publicly but which helped shape his life.

Romney's recollection of his Vietnam - era decisions has evolved in the decades since, particularly as his presidential ambitions became clear.

He said in 2007 - his first White House bid under way - that he had "longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam." But his actions, Selective Service records and previous statements show little interest in joining a conflict that ultimately claimed more than 58,000 American lives.

Still, he repeatedly cites his commitment to public service and the nation's military while campaigning for president.

&... "Greatness in a people I believe is
measured by the extent to which they will give themselves to something bigger than themselves," Romney said in San Diego last week to a Memorial Day crowd of thousands , flush with military veterans of all ages.

He did not address his own Vietnam history that day, And his campaign has refused to comment publicly on the subject over the past week.

Political rivals, military veterans among them, suggest that Romney's own decision not to serve in the military is in conflict with his pro - military rhetoric.

"He didn't have the courage to go. He didn't feel it was important enough to him to serve his country at a time of war," said Jon Soltz, who served two Army tours in Iraq and is chairman of the left - leaning veterans group Vote Vets. org

Critics note that the candidate is among three generations of Romneys - who were of military age during armed conflicts but did not serve.

As a presidential candidate in 2007, Romney told the Boston Globe he was frustrated as a Mormon missionary, not to be fighting alongside his countrymen.

"I was supportive of my country," Romney said. "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam."

Indeed, Romney strongly supported the war at first. As a freshman at Stanford University, he protested anti - war activists. In one photo, he's shown in a small crowd of students, smiling broadly, wearing a sport jacket and holding up a sign that says, "Speak Out, Don't Sit In."

But the frustration he recalled in 2007 does not match a sentiment he shared as a Massachusetts Senate candidate in 1994, when he told The Boston Herald, "I was not planning on signing up for the military."

"It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft," Romney told the newspaper.

But that's exactly what Romney did, according Selective Service records. He received his first deferment for "activity in study" in October 1965 while at Stanford.

As Stoltz notes, the younger Romney was under no obligation to seek a college - related deferment.

"Vietnam was a war that the poor and the people who couldn't afford to go to college had to go to," Soltz said.

After his first year at Stanford, Romney qualified for 4 - D deferment status as "minister of religion for divinity student." It was a status he would hold from July 1966 until February 1969, a period he largely spent in France working as a Mormon missionary.

He was granted the deferment even as some young Mormon men elsewhere were denied that status, which became increasingly controversial in the late 1960's. The Mormon church, a strong supporter of American involvement in Vietnam, ultimately limited the number of church missionaries allowed to defer their military service using the religious exemption.

But as fighting in Vietnam raged Romney spent two and a half years trying to win Mormon converts in France. About that same time, Romney's father would famously speak out against Vietnam, declaring that he had been "brainwashed" by military officials into supporting the conflict.

Young Romney's comments indicated his support had waned, too.

"If it wasn't a political blunder to move into Vietnam, I don't know what is," a 23 - year old Romney would tell the Boston Globe in 1970 during the fifth year of his deferment.

His 31 - month religious deferment expired in early 1969. And Romney received an academic studies deferment for much of the next two years. He became available for military service at the end of 1970 when his deferments ran out and he could have been drafted. But by that time America was beginning to slice its troop levels, and Romney's relatively high lottery number - 300 out of 365 - was not called.

Romney's past may not be enough to hurt - his popularity in this years election among veterans, who typically lean Republican.

A Gallup survey released last week found that veterans prefer Romney over Obama by 58 percent to 34 percent. That voting bloc, consisting mostly of older men, makes up 13 percent of the adult population. Obama won the presidency four years ago while losing veterans by 10 points to Sen. John McCain, former Navy pilot.

Still, some veterans say Romney's reluctance to serve irks them.

"I volunteered for the draft, Romney could have, too. Simple as that," said Wade Lieseke, of Nevada, who served as a helicopter gunner in Vietnam from 1969 to 1970."

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  • Peewee 2012/10/30 13:19:26
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    Peewee
    +16
    I would rather have someone who deferred from the draft than someone who hung out with commies and terrorists in college.

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  • ready46xwu strawberry 2012/11/04 05:41:22
    ready46xwu
    U MAKE IT CLEAR! U R 4 OBUMMER! LOL
  • ready46xwu strawberry 2012/10/31 00:30:13
    ready46xwu
    +1
    Check ur meds & watch OBUMMER TRY & SPEAK!
  • sandra ... strawberry 2012/10/31 01:34:24
    sandra smith
    NOT everyone is a comfortable public speaker. I'm fairly fluent at a keyboard or with a pen, but put me in front of even a small group of people and I'm tongue-tied, with major "brain freeze" at the same time. I've been that way all my life. Even trying to teach 6 corpsmen at one time was a challenge for me.
  • strawberry sandra ... 2012/10/31 23:07:37
    strawberry
    It is not Mitt Romney's public speaking I'm concerned about, it is Romney's slander tactics, constant attacks and lies against President Obama. Such a man shows little quality, and I would never vote for that Romney hypocrite.
  • sandra ... ready46xwu 2012/10/31 01:32:26
    sandra smith
    +1
    Clinton ran off to Oxford and smoked dope, but "didn't inhale" instead!
  • strawberry sandra ... 2012/10/31 22:58:55
    strawberry
    Did you read what I said.? This applies to all who run for U.S. President. I did not even vote for Clinton.
  • Helene 2012/10/30 18:38:46 (edited)
    I FEEL?
    Helene
    +4
    If Romney had a draft number that was not called then he was not a draft dodger. For those old enough to remember, or have seen the play "Hair" those that fled to Canada had low numbers. In the early years of that unpopular war deferments were given if you were in college, or married with children. Later it was your number.
  • strawberry Helene 2012/10/31 00:16:10
    strawberry
    +1
    By that time the war was already coming to an end. Those who fled to Canada are not running for U.S. President. Since when should a draft dodger, yes Romney was a draft dodger, he marched in favor, flip flop, then too cowardly to go fight, be Commander In Chief of U.S. Armed Forces, sending our American troops to die.? Put this aside, do you honestly believe Romney could handle a real crisis such as this current hurricane.? Romney wanted to eliminate FEMA. All those Republicans begging Chris Christy to run, now have Chris Christy on TV praising President Obama.
  • sandra ... strawberry 2012/10/31 01:42:08
    sandra smith
    +1
    I repeat WHEN did YOU serve? What do you KNOW about doing so?
  • ready46xwu strawberry 2012/11/04 05:44:09
    ready46xwu
    DON'T TALK ABOUT WHAT U HAVEN'T 'EXPEIRENCED'!
    AND DON'T 'UPHOLD OBUMMER', WHEN A DEDICATED MILITARY HERO,
    WAS STEPPED OVER FOR A 'NO BODY'!
  • Helene strawberry 2012/11/18 04:54:29
    Helene
    Romney did not want to get rid of FEMA, he wanted to privatize it. Did it ever occur to you that EVERY govt run organization is in the RED - Social Security, Medicare, DOE, Amtrack, the Postal Service. They are not accountable to shareholders or a business owner. When then run low on funds they tax us more or borrow from China. They are so inefficient and waste billions of dollars. FEMA is no different. You head the stories of people in New Orleans getting money that didn't need it and all the TV purchased when they should have bought clothes and food. If you ask the average Staten Island person affected by Hurricane Sandy and they will tell you Obama's done nothing for them. He made a photo op. That's his job! Where was his photo op in the gulf after the oil spill? Over 100 days went by before he made an appearance. You have got to open your eyes!
  • sandra ... Helene 2012/10/31 01:41:17
    sandra smith
    +2
    Right you are. I watched my own classmates while I was in nursing school because there was a bill before Congress to draft nurses, just a few months before we were to graduate. That SAME bill had been tabled by VE Day in '45 but was up again in early '69, and MISSED passing by ONE VOTE! You would have thought serving in the military was the WORST POSSIBLE FATE that could have befallen them! I signed up as soon as I had my license!
  • strawberry sandra ... 2012/10/31 22:22:05 (edited)
    strawberry
    I lived in Nigeria West Africa under Martial Law, and had a Nigerian Army soldier put a rifle to my car windshield. I lived in a third world nation during a coup. I was also a Red Cross volunteer.
  • peggy strawberry 2012/10/31 23:04:15
    peggy
    +1
    She's also a liar
  • John Hall 2012/10/30 18:31:40
    I FEEL?
    John Hall
    +5
    The day the f@@king left start's to care about there crooked politician's is the day i'll start to care until then kiss my butt you bunch of hypocrites .
  • derek John Hall 2012/10/30 19:05:57
    derek
    +3
    right on.
  • strawberry John Hall 2012/10/31 00:18:42
  • ready46xwu strawberry 2012/10/31 00:33:25
    ready46xwu
    +1
    AND SO WAS OUR AMBASADOR TO LIBIA!
  • John Hall strawberry 2012/10/31 00:58:22
    John Hall
    +2
    I can't figure out which is worse a draft dodger or a drug user and seller of illegal drugs and that he had to lie to get federal grants to go to college as a foriegn exchange student . Pick your poison I'll care about who I vote for when the left starts to care about who they elect into office .
  • strawberry John Hall 2012/10/31 22:52:01
    strawberry
    President Obama smoked some pot, so what.? In comparison to majority of politicians Obama is most honest. You give no facts about federal grants.
    President Obama's education:

    "Kindergarten, 1966-1967: Noelani Elementary School, Honolulu, Hawaii, Public"

    "1st - 3rd grade, 1968-1970: St. Francis Assisi, Jakarta, Indonesia, Private Catholic"

    "4th grade - 1970-1971: State Elementary School, Jakarta, Indonesia, Public"

    "5th - 12th grade, 1971-1979: Punahou School, Honolulu, Hawaii, Private"

    "Freshman - Sophomore year, 1979-1981: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA, Private" Transferred to Columbia University.

    "Junior-Senior year, 1981-1983: Columbia University, New York City, Private"
    AB, political science major, with-international relations focus.
    "Obama lived off campus in a modest rental apartment at 142 West 109th St. He graduated from Columbia in 1983 then worked at Business International Corporation, a New York Public Interest Research Group."

    "IL - 3L, 1988-1991: Harvard Law School, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Private JD,magna cum laude, President of Harvard Law Review."
  • John Hall strawberry 2012/10/31 23:02:47
    John Hall
    +2
    He not just smoked pot and cocain he sold it and while in college was listed as a foriegn exchange student . Again when the left starts to care who they elect I'll start to care about who I vote for .
  • strawberry John Hall 2012/11/01 01:37:05
    strawberry
    You are running out of excuses. JP Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie moved America forward, but their Capitalistic greed, cost lives of millions of laborers. That is what Mitt Romney would do. The Middle Class have become drones for wealthy Capitalists. President Obama only wants balance.
  • John Hall strawberry 2012/11/01 14:32:15
    John Hall
    +2
    You sound like you don't want to work for what you got and that you wanted handed to you .
  • peggy John Hall 2012/10/31 23:06:03
  • sandra ... strawberry 2012/10/31 01:44:32
    sandra smith
    +1
    You really know NOTHING about it, do you? Ever been shot at with live ammo? Or near where a bomb went off? I have; enough to understand why people get SCARED; but it's what you DO when you ARE scared spitless that counts!
  • addie 2012/10/30 17:58:09
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    addie
    Depends on their reasons and honesty about it. It is not so important by itself.
  • strawberry addie 2012/10/30 22:28:55
    strawberry
    +3
    It shows the man's character, among his other flip flops.
  • sandra ... strawberry 2012/10/31 01:46:23
    sandra smith
    PLEASE tell me you're NOT suggesting Obama has "character"??? I don't even think he can SPELL the word, much less define it, and he certainly doesn't HAVE any!
  • strawberry addie 2012/10/31 00:22:34
  • sandra ... strawberry 2012/10/31 01:47:37
    sandra smith
    I used to see and deal with some 30,000 of the guys in the fatigues and helmets a LOT! Face to face, in person; have YOU ever done so?
  • Mel 2012/10/30 17:39:30
    MITT ROMNEY IS A HYPOCRIT, LIAR, AND COWARD.
    Mel
    +1
    Do you have an article that's a bit more current?
  • peggy 2012/10/30 17:04:33
    THOSE IN MY FAMILY LOST THEIR LIVES IN VIETNAM.
    peggy
    +5
    Allot of people hated the VN war. You could be drafted or go down and join the corp. Of you choice. I dont know that you understand what a draft dodger was. They literally left the country went to Canada or Mexico. Just because you were not in combat does not make you a draft dodger. Your life was at risk just being their. Except for people like JANE FONDA!!!!! THE WHORE OF WAR. Please dont dishonor the VN vets by going after Romney with this senseless post. How many loved ones did you lose over their? This is disgaceful.
  • strawberry peggy 2012/10/30 21:39:13
    strawberry
    +1
    Too many excuses made for Mitt Romney. He dodged going to war because he was wealthy. The point is Romney marched in favor of Vietnam then did everything possible from going. I have a son who graduated U.S. Naval Academy, was a naval helicopter pilot, also in Iraq twice. My own daughter was a Naval EMT. Romney could care less about helping U.S. Military. Wake up to this phony man.
  • peggy strawberry 2012/10/30 22:07:41
    peggy
    +1
    If I were you I would be scared to have them serve under a president who just decided the lives of 3 navy seals and our embassy Hosts, were expendable, and dared to go to a fund raiser in Las Vegas, then with a gleam in his eye he went on to the view....all the while the blood of Americans ran in the streets. He is a sob, has committed treason and should be impeached. ....Romney is not the President yet. If navy EMT need help and arent getting it blame the screwball who thinks his god. Lol! Wake Up AMERICA
  • strawberry peggy 2012/10/31 00:25:41
    strawberry
    I trust President Obama. I'm no fool to vote for Mitt Romney, Not only from researching him, but a bad feeling, instinct watching him. He is dead inside. I have not been a party voter either.
  • peggy strawberry 2012/10/31 01:16:50
    peggy
    Well thats good. Were all thrilled. You have fell off the subject but again. Nevertheless your not changing my mind and if you had one I wouldnt bother with U. Good eve.
  • sandra ... strawberry 2012/10/31 01:51:29
    sandra smith
    +1
    Why don't you just shoot your poor children now; it'd be KINDER!
  • peggy strawberry 2012/10/31 08:57:10
    peggy
    I resent you using this picture of our troops killed in Iraq while infering questions to the draft. This men obviously arent draft dodgers from tbe VN era...terrible.
  • strawberry peggy 2012/10/31 22:54:50
    strawberry
    You could not even get that point straight.
  • peggy strawberry 2012/10/31 23:00:49
    peggy
    Your retarded, go take your medication maybe you can grow a brain.

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