End any and all subsidies on every commodity (including fuels) and especially end the government meddling in any activity that is best left to the private sector. Government should not be running any businesses, what government should do is get the hell out of our lives and let us alone!
Bud
Would you support food aid bill that would end direct payments to farmers and replacing them with subsidized insurance programs for when the weather turns bad or prices go south?
bob
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Top Opinion
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Bud 2012/06/04 20:43:50
Benjamin Franklin said: I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
As a person raised in a state that made being on welfare very unpleasant, it is the truest thing I've ever heard. I've got my own business and provide fo...
Benjamin Franklin said: I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
As a person raised in a state that made being on welfare very unpleasant, it is the truest thing I've ever heard. I've got my own business and provide for me and mine with almost no help from any public agency or charity. We do use a state offered reduced price health insurance, but we pay our taxes that support this service, so I feel no guilt. This is the real incentive people need. Make poverty unpleasant or downright ugly and they will leave in droves!
I do believe that we are handing money out too freely and some restrictions need to be held. For starters, I would cut any and all subsidies to farms that are owned and/or managed by non-US interests. If they have the funds to put a farmer/farm family out of business, they should be able to manage on their own - or sell back to a US farmer.
And I would change the rules that pay our famers for and pay for shipping excess crops to nations that don't pay for shipping OR the crop - because we give it away at tax-payer expense. Let those nations buy or barter for it.
SUBSIDIES:
My grandfather was a cattle rancher. He had several thousand acres, most of it not really suited for cultivation. Every year the county extension agent would come by and tell him to plant so much of this and so much of that, and then next year we will pay you to NOT grow that crop. He made millions off of that. The only thing he was interested in growing was feed for the cattle. So he grew his hay and alfalfa, which he was going to grow anyway, and got paid to not grow corn or wheat or rutabagas on the same land he only ever planned to grow feed on.
INSURANCE:
PRICES: See the above. Every enterprise we engage in is basically a gamble. Know your market or stay out of it.
WEATHER: Again, a gamble. I see it here in Oklahoma every year. Oh no the drought is killing the wheat. They refuse to irrigate. Screw you, you don't want to make sure the crop you choose to grow will grow, don't expect the rest of us to pay for your risk. Oh no, we got too much rain it's ruining the wheat crop. Hmm, it's too dry then it's too wet. Maybe the truth of the matter is that Oklahoma's climate isn't suited for growing wheat.
And you are right about Oklahoma and wheat - well certain areas. There is something, however, that will grow just about anywhere if you tend it properly. But, even then there are some circumstances you can't prevent. And contrary to popular belief, it doesn't usually get too hot or too dry to make a corp, but (like) when we all want lots of rain in the summer, it can be horrible for cotton.
The government should not be providing insurance to cover crops, natural disaster or otherwise. They don't provide insurance for the electrical contractors I work for.
As to your entire last paragraph, is that NOT what I said? Does excessive moisture on wheat cause mold or not? It all depends on when it rains and what stage of development the kernels are in, correct? I can only tell you what I have heard over my 11 years in Oklahoma on that subject, and I have. That tells me that wheat is NOT a good crop for Oklahoma, and the government should not be subsidizing the farmers risk with my tax dollars. I don't get my risk minimized if I should choose to go to a casino.
I have, and i suppose you know a load of builders when the weather goes bad and the brickwork or blockwork shell is not up they cant do nothing, till the cold or the rain goes.
Has for prices, they are down in my region by about 25% to 30%.
So if farmers have a right to compensation, when the weather goes bad and the prices goes south.
Cant lay bricks when its too cold,cant brick in the rain,(you can get scaffold and cover the house with a watrerproof membrane) but this costs a lot to hire or buy.
Cant plaster when its to warm,cant use cranes when its to windy,machinery getting bogged down because rain.
Cant thatch when it rainning, cant felt and batten a roof when it rainning, paint,lay turf.
I have asked some of my friends who are builders to take this point to the European Parliment, and explain that Farmers are getting compenastion when weather goes bad, why cant we, and the weather does have a very adverse affect on the building.
If it is right to pay farmers, why would it be wrong to pay construction firms, building firms, perhaps the bill would be to big.
It would be very interesting if someone took this to the E...
I have, and i suppose you know a load of builders when the weather goes bad and the brickwork or blockwork shell is not up they cant do nothing, till the cold or the rain goes.
Has for prices, they are down in my region by about 25% to 30%.
So if farmers have a right to compensation, when the weather goes bad and the prices goes south.
Cant lay bricks when its too cold,cant brick in the rain,(you can get scaffold and cover the house with a watrerproof membrane) but this costs a lot to hire or buy.
Cant plaster when its to warm,cant use cranes when its to windy,machinery getting bogged down because rain.
Cant thatch when it rainning, cant felt and batten a roof when it rainning, paint,lay turf.
I have asked some of my friends who are builders to take this point to the European Parliment, and explain that Farmers are getting compenastion when weather goes bad, why cant we, and the weather does have a very adverse affect on the building.
If it is right to pay farmers, why would it be wrong to pay construction firms, building firms, perhaps the bill would be to big.
It would be very interesting if someone took this to the European courts, and asked the judges to ponder this point.
They would make their decision that farmers are getting paid compensation, why would we say no to builders and construction workers when the weather has, and does have have a effect on their earnings.
A friend of mine is a stone mason, 51 days out of 70 lost through rain.
The place where they made all that machinery for the farms, all the seed, was built by construction firms, the farms were built by builders.
That all i am saying is that,unless something is done to pay compensation to trades which are affected by rain, we will not have these trades left.
Why should a person do bricklaying, plastering, roofers, and other trades when the weather can and will have such a adverce effect on their wages.
Good attempt at trying to make the working man the benefactor when we all know here in he US, we have State and Federal tax payer/employer funded unemployment insurance that subsidizes the underemployed and unemployed in such events.
I do think the welfare system is not working, a person who wants a bit of help just till the weather breaks gets nothing, while a bum who does not want to work and does nothing gets help!
I know people who have been on welfare for the last 30 years, they still do cash jobs, the system was set up for those who were out of work, for years now it has been abused.
I still vote no on subsidizing.
But what they should be allowed to do is to put the weather against their profits, at the end of the year.
I again point out that builders and subcontrctors to not get welfare while they are working or waiting for the weather to break.
No then to subsidies, but it should be no to all.
When i was young, i used to walk throug fields of potatos,kale,swedes,turnips, and a load of others.Those same fields are now green.
Vast swathes of land in the UK is green,the A40 from Llandovery to London i remember going on that road and seeing potatos,kale,wheat, barley,rye,then seeing tulips in red, violets,and yellow.
Took that same road because i had to do a few other call on the way, very few crops but plenty of green fields.
Farmers should grow a commercial viable crop, if they cant grow nothing on it why shoud we pay the farmer not to use it.
I do favor limits and aiding smaller farmers over larger ones. But I would support a bill that said NO foreign farm (owned or managed) would be given ANY subsidies. Then perhaps we could get them back in the hands of US farmers.