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Would you let the govt put a CAMERA in your house??!!

BlueRepublican 2012/05/04 16:03:06
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I know what you're thinking, "C'mon Blue, that'll NEVER happen." But let's think about that for a minute.

Let's say that to prevent Domestic and Child Abuse there was a bill called the Protect Women and Children Act. No legislator or politician would DARE vote against protecting women and children. The bill passes with overwhelming bipartisan support.

The bill stipulates the use of home surveillance as a means of protecting the innocent. The cameras will be federally funded and maintained by govt techs which will create jobs. Failure to comply will result in arrest and $5,000 fine everyday the system is not installed.

The entire National Security Community would rally around the bill calling it, "A necessary tool in the fight against terrorism." It would be linked to 911 Emergency services, Department of Homeland Security, and monitored 24/7.

But you say, "Wait a minute Blue, what about my rights??!!"

You already gave away your bank accounts, credit cards, emails, phone conversations, letters, free speech, privacy and habeous corpus, so why not?

Don't you want to stop Domestic Abuse and Child Abuse? Do you want the terrorist to WIN?

You've done nothing wrong. You don't want any trouble. You can't afford to pay the penalty. You also don't want to let Domestic and Child Abuse go unpunished. What would you do?

Would you let the govt put a CAMERA in your house??!!
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  • Bucky a... @TheMis... 2012/05/04 17:02:23
    Bucky aka KINGPIN
    +4
    One always has a choice, just as one always receives the consequences of ones choice!
    Live on your knees, or die on your feet!
  • Turings... @TheMis... 2012/05/04 19:48:17
    TuringsChild
    I think the tech would have a hard time keeping up with all the 'mice' eating through the cables...
  • EllaBella 2012/05/04 16:31:54
    None of the above
    EllaBella
    +1
    the OP has put forth a "hypothetical" scenario. stop taking every post so seriously.
  • Super l... EllaBella 2012/05/04 17:52:55
  • sue 2012/05/04 16:30:31
    No, I would not allow it
    sue
    +3
    It would not be suggested by anybody or passed by anybody. It would be prohibitively expensive, and we are already busy taking mandatory pictures inside people's uteruses, listening to their phone conversations and tracking their cell phones with GPS.
  • Sheila 2012/05/04 16:23:31
    No, I would not allow it
    Sheila
    +5
    I have not saved for retirement, I would be ok in jail for this untill it was overturned as unconstitutional... :-)

    I know that is easy to say, but I know what I would do.
  • Mr. T 2012/05/04 16:21:49
    No, I would not allow it
    Mr. T
    +8
    They might put one in, but after 30-seconds is wouldn't be working due to "poor installation" wink, wink.
  • Joe61 2012/05/04 16:21:16
    Undecided
    Joe61
    +1
    I am actually thinking of buying an outside camera but only for my security....I don'yt know whether I would be willing to accept a govermental department supplied one as it would depend on what it is going to be used for.
  • Super l... Joe61 2012/05/04 17:54:20
  • Theresa Joe61 2012/05/04 18:15:31 (edited)
    Theresa
    +1
    Look all cameras can be remotely accessed now, So it does not matter what type or what purpose. They can use it.
  • Joe61 Theresa 2012/05/04 19:06:04 (edited)
    Joe61
    I have my truck parked in my drive and it permantly has some fairly valuable stuff in the back. So, a camera is a requirement and not a luxury for insurance purposes. My van is 10' .2 high and because it is right outside my front window, it totally blocks my view.
  • Theresa Joe61 2012/05/04 19:07:39
    Theresa
    +1
    Ok cameras are useful but they can be hijacked into other purposes other than the original one.
  • Theresa 2012/05/04 16:19:23
    No, I would not allow it
    Theresa
    +6
    Cameras are all ready in your house. It is called a Cell Phone with a Camera. All cameras on cell phones can be operating at anytime unless the battery is removed. That is the dirty secret. The cameras are already there. You brought them in yourself!
  • sue Theresa 2012/05/04 16:32:36
    sue
    +4
    It does make me a bit paranoid. You know I turn my iphone over and put it behind the clock at night. Also, I put a post it over the web cam in my computer. I always feel like it's looking at me!
  • Super l... sue 2012/05/04 17:56:15 (edited)
  • Theresa sue 2012/05/04 18:13:38
    Theresa
    +1
    Why they can hear as well as see! The only safe way is to pull the battery. Unfortunately in Iphones you do not have that luxury!
  • ehrhornp 2012/05/04 16:18:19
    No, I would not allow it
    ehrhornp
    +2
    This would never happen as government doesn't give a rip about domestic abuse. But it could happen in the name of national security. The government needs to keep tract of everyone to prevent a new Bin Laden or some other imaginary fear from happening. We are moving towards Oceania and this would be the final nail.

    That is why I am a democrat. Republicans would love to do this. They initiated spying on people already. Whats wrong with a camera in your house? What are you hiding?
  • Sheila ehrhornp 2012/05/04 16:24:27
    Sheila
    +2
    How did the republicans ok spying?
  • ehrhornp Sheila 2012/05/04 16:31:18
    ehrhornp
    GW did it remember? Spying on citizens was suppose to be only with a court order which was easy to get. But GW didn't want to go through the hassle so he never did. Then afterwards they changed the law. Democrats are far from perfect but it is generally the republicans who push us closer to Oceania.
  • BlueRep... ehrhornp 2012/05/04 16:36:30
    BlueRepublican
    +4
    President Obama extended the law for another 4 years. Maybe it's not about political party?
  • ehrhornp BlueRep... 2012/05/04 16:42:59
    ehrhornp
    I know he did and I blasted him for it. But it is always more difficult to eliminate something once it has been instituted and GW instituted it.
  • BlueRep... ehrhornp 2012/05/04 16:48:10
    BlueRepublican
    +4
    You would think that a Constitutional Law professor from Harvard (Obama) would know when not to sign (NDAA) or extend (PatriotAct) unconstitutional laws...just saying....
  • ehrhornp BlueRep... 2012/05/04 22:14:12
    ehrhornp
    One would think. Still it was GW who ignored it. But that is what happens when only moderates run from the democratic party.
  • Sheila ehrhornp 2012/05/04 16:37:10
    Sheila
    Are you referring to the Patriot Act?
  • ConLibFraud 2012/05/04 16:14:41
    No, I would not allow it
    ConLibFraud
    +6
    I believe if the government tried they would regret it.
  • JJ Rage 2012/05/04 16:06:15
    No, I would not allow it
    JJ Rage
    +5
    When this happens, revolution will occur.
  • Mr. T JJ Rage 2012/05/04 16:20:38
    Mr. T
    +3
    BINGO. They are starting with cars in a few years. Next, your home.
  • Super l... Mr. T 2012/05/04 18:03:25
  • Mr. T Super l... 2012/05/04 18:45:23
    Mr. T
    Yeah...the government is making it mandatory that new cars in a few years become equipped with internal cameras that monitor you.
  • JJ Rage Mr. T 2012/05/05 13:05:40
    JJ Rage
    Why are we taking this? Have Americans become scary punks?
  • nverumind 2012/05/04 16:06:10
    No, I would not allow it
    nverumind
    +2
    and i dont honestly think anyone is that dim, that they would allow it to pass, no matter the label on it.
  • BlueRep... nverumind 2012/05/04 16:14:49
    BlueRepublican
    +5
    They passed and extended the 'Patriot Act' and it's pretty un-patriotic if you ask me.
  • BlueRepublican 2012/05/04 16:05:45
    None of the above
    BlueRepublican
    +4
    DISCLAIMER: This is not 'real' legislation (yet) only a hypothetical scenario under which an obviously intrusive law would be passed and implemented under well-meaning intentions. Peace.
  • EllaBella BlueRep... 2012/05/04 16:21:54
    EllaBella
    +1
    would you let them put an ankle bracelet on your leg to follow your every move AFTER you've been convicted of a crime?

    would you put a breathalyzer in someone's car AFTER they've been convicted of drunk driving?

    just playing a little devil's advocate here :)
  • Sheila EllaBella 2012/05/04 16:25:28
    Sheila
    +2
    But in this hypothetical EVERYONE gets monitored.
  • EllaBella Sheila 2012/05/04 16:31:09
    EllaBella
    +1
    and that's why it's a "hypothetical" because monitoring people in the privacy of their homes is unwarranted.
  • Sheila EllaBella 2012/05/04 16:38:53
    Sheila
    +2
    Yup, simply pointing it out. That is apples and oranges to monitoring a convicted criminal.
  • EllaBella Sheila 2012/05/04 19:34:09
    EllaBella
    +1
    so, hypothetically, if i were convicted a holding up a liquor store would you support the government's right to put a camera in my home to monitor me?
  • Sheila EllaBella 2012/05/07 16:47:08
    Sheila
    +1
    No. The ankle bracelets are working as far as I know for monitoring. IF there was need maybe a camera on the outside. To show if you leave or if someone comes over. But not inside unless someone could tell me how that would help.
  • EllaBella Sheila 2012/05/07 19:26:08
    EllaBella
    +1
    i think that's a good reply - but the government could easily insert a microphone and camera into the ankle bracelet. I'm really not for that type of surveillance at all. Either put people in jail or turn them loose. That's just my opinion.

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