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Would the US be Safer if Everyone Concealed and Carried?

MarcusRP 2012/07/23 04:20:28
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  • ParkMan 2012/07/30 17:33:06
    No
    ParkMan
    If everyone had a weapon, you'd have a bunch of twits running around with guns that never should be anywhere near them.
  • Drummerboy ParkMan 2012/07/30 17:37:39
  • KaelynnRose 2012/07/30 15:55:10
    No
    KaelynnRose
    Not EVERYONE, but I believe in carry laws. Some people however should not have guns. Convicted felons, and such. Also there are some people who are too jumpy to use them. I don't say we should have a law, but if they aren't comfortable carrying, and don't know how to use it properly then they should not carry it.
  • Michael McFascist 2012/07/26 06:32:15
    No
    Michael McFascist
    No, that would be problematic
  • I. Car Rus 2012/07/26 06:31:44
    Yes
    I. Car Rus
    A very qualified yes. It wouldn't stop loonies from acting on their impulses BUT it might stop them before they killed a bunch of people.
  • Tennessee3501 2012/07/24 23:28:28
    Yes
    Tennessee3501
    +1
    More guns mean less crime. Each year more than 50,000 people die in traffic accidents. We should ban all autobobiles and go back to riding horses!
  • Tom 2012/07/24 18:19:24
    No
    Tom
    Not everyone. There are some Crazy A$$ people out there that I wouldn't trust with any pointed object.

    But if more people did I think criminals would think twice about robbing people.
  • ScatterJoy! 2012/07/24 02:35:49
    No
    ScatterJoy!
    *facepalm*
  • Diana 2012/07/24 02:24:57
    Yes
    Diana
    I believe we would be safer.
  • Hamilton 2012/07/24 02:14:27
    Yes
    Hamilton
    "An armed society is a Polite society."
  • JDLogan 2012/07/24 02:13:11
    Yes
    JDLogan
    +1
    An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
    Robert A. Heinlein
  • Freeranger 2012/07/23 23:57:51
    No
    Freeranger
    Are you kidding me? Have you ever looked at some of the bio's and opinons of people on here. They're lucky they operate keyboards safely.
  • Delete 2012/07/23 23:16:09
  • pbunny 2012/07/23 21:37:26
  • derek 2012/07/23 17:24:17
    Yes
    derek
    +1
    Definitely.
  • sammanilla 2012/07/23 16:59:32
    Yes
    sammanilla
    +3
    KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house.

    In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.

    The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants."

    Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy."

    "People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case."

    In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge.

    Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide.

    "It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years."
  • Marvelous Wildfire 2012/07/23 16:34:07
    Yes
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    Anyone walking our streets as a *FREEMAN/WOMAN*, should be able to do so *ARMED*.

    And the cowardly sheep will bleat: "OH YEAH?! Well what about the *VIOLENT* and *CRAZIES*?!"

    If they're are a menace to society, whether due to criminal behavior or mental defect: They should *NOT* be walking our streets as a *FREEMAN*, they should be locked up until such time that they are no longer a menace to society.

    Disarming the law-abiding, simply make crime easier for criminals.

    "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; what would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty - so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator - and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ...
    Anyone walking our streets as a *FREEMAN/WOMAN*, should be able to do so *ARMED*.

    And the cowardly sheep will bleat: "OH YEAH?! Well what about the *VIOLENT* and *CRAZIES*?!"

    If they're are a menace to society, whether due to criminal behavior or mental defect: They should *NOT* be walking our streets as a *FREEMAN*, they should be locked up until such time that they are no longer a menace to society.

    Disarming the law-abiding, simply make crime easier for criminals.

    "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; what would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty - so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator - and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.. They ought to be designated as laws not preventive but fearful of crimes, produced by the impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree."
    --Cesare Beccaria, On Crimes and Punishments 87-88 (H. Paulucci transl. 1963).-- (Thomas Jefferson copied this passage in full in his Commonplace Book 314 (G. Chinard ed. 1926), which was "the source book and repertory of Jefferson's ideas on government." Id. at 4.)
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  • Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/23 15:52:09
    Yes
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
    Robert A. Heinlein
  • Ken 2012/07/23 15:43:56
    Yes
    Ken
    +3
    or if at least the criminals thought they were carrying. The fear of the unknown is usually enough to stop them.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/23 15:39:12
    Yes
    jackolantyrn356
    +5
    An Armed Nation is a Safe Nation (Non-citizens need not apply)
  • Spe168 2012/07/23 14:37:29
    No
    Spe168
    heck no!! There are too many crazies out here.
  • Marvelo... Spe168 2012/07/23 16:42:14
    Marvelous Wildfire
    So, exactly how does taking away the *LAW-ABIDING'S* means of protecting themselves from the "many crazies out here", make the law-abiding *SAFER*?

    Where has your belief in: "The more helpless you are when attacked with deadly intent, the *SAFER* you are" actually saved lives? Columbine? Virginia Tech? Fort Hood? Luby's?
  • Spe168 Marvelo... 2012/07/23 17:09:52 (edited)
    Spe168
    I said nothing about taking away the guns of Law abiding citizens. Perhaps you should read the question and response again. This time using comprehensive skills.
  • Marvelo... Spe168 2012/07/23 19:17:30
    Marvelous Wildfire
    Perhaps you should read the question again, after first you understand the meaning of "using comprehensive skills."
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/07/23 13:49:40
    No
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +1
    100 Million nitwits who don't know which end of the barrel to look down. Sure that'll work.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/23 13:41:58
    Yes
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    +1
    Maybe not EVERYONE, but definitely people of strong nous, principle and character.
  • Spe168 ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/23 14:38:34
    Spe168
    +3
    and WHO determines who that is?
  • ģhøṡτ øώl Spe168 2012/07/24 12:17:15 (edited)
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    I will if you'd like. :-)

    Listen. Point Blank: The rifle has existed for around 600 years. Modern pistols (revolvers and on) have existed for 176 years. Our gun rights have existed for 221 years. How long has it been since these freak atrocities have been occurring? Only in the past 20 or so, I'd say. The problem is not with the law. The problem is with our society and it's decaying moral compass and foul lack of principle. The problem is with people. And if people are this charged up to be doing things like this (senseless rampage) then they ARE GOING TO DO THEM REGARDLESS of whether there are guns or not. And people who REALLY want guns are going to acquire guns REGARDLESS of whatever gun control laws they put into effect. In case you haven't noticed other places in the world they run into crowds with bombs strapped to their chests. Imagine if a man ran into a crowd with a big sword or a friggin battle axe instead. People are despicable and they're going to act out their insanity upon the rest of us no matter what we do at this point. The only SURE fire way of counteracting this kind of behavior is through scrutiny and education. And when I say education I mean we NEED to be instilling good principles and conviction within our young people. Because at this juncture very few of them even know what those things are.
  • Marvelo... ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/24 14:33:47
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    What is missing from your post, is the fact that the people have been indoctrinated in these "recent" years, that to be cowardly sheep was a good thing.

    Every year, the children are being indoctrinated to be more passive sheep.
    That's why in public schools, when bullies attack the weak, the school punishes the assailants and the helpless victims equally.
    In days gone by, the bullies would be punished or even *REMOVED* from the schools.

    Why is this "so important"? Because it is training the people *NOT TO RESIST TYRANNY*.

    Example: We have been told by the media, that the Columbine murderers were just "children who were bullied, until one day they just 'snapped'!"
    This is a lie.
    The Columbine murderers were *CONVICTED FELONS*!
    *CONVICTED FELONS* that a year before, had made *DEATH THREATS* against one of their previous victims, that was so clearly laid out, a judge ordered law enforcement to search their homes for guns and other weapons.
    Had this court order been followed, the "Gun Free Zone" massacre at Columbine wouldn't have happened.
    But law enforcement ignored the court order, and the rest is history.
    The Gabby Giffords slaughter of unarmed victims, wouldn't have happened, if the victims had accepted personal responsibility for their own protection.
    But despite the victims being allow...



    What is missing from your post, is the fact that the people have been indoctrinated in these "recent" years, that to be cowardly sheep was a good thing.

    Every year, the children are being indoctrinated to be more passive sheep.
    That's why in public schools, when bullies attack the weak, the school punishes the assailants and the helpless victims equally.
    In days gone by, the bullies would be punished or even *REMOVED* from the schools.

    Why is this "so important"? Because it is training the people *NOT TO RESIST TYRANNY*.

    Example: We have been told by the media, that the Columbine murderers were just "children who were bullied, until one day they just 'snapped'!"
    This is a lie.
    The Columbine murderers were *CONVICTED FELONS*!
    *CONVICTED FELONS* that a year before, had made *DEATH THREATS* against one of their previous victims, that was so clearly laid out, a judge ordered law enforcement to search their homes for guns and other weapons.
    Had this court order been followed, the "Gun Free Zone" massacre at Columbine wouldn't have happened.
    But law enforcement ignored the court order, and the rest is history.
    The Gabby Giffords slaughter of unarmed victims, wouldn't have happened, if the victims had accepted personal responsibility for their own protection.
    But despite the victims being allowed to both carry guns and carry them concealed: *NO ONE AT THE SHOOTING WAS ARMED, EXCEPT THE MURDERER*!
    And again: Sheriff Dupnik's department *KNEW* about Loughner, but *IGNORED* the many complains of Loughner's death threats, and even his drug charges were dropped.

    The people have been systematically trained to be cowardly sheep, and to depend on Government to protect them.
    Cowardice has allows the slaughter we've seen to take place.
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  • ģhøṡτ øώl Marvelo... 2012/07/25 12:49:31
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    +1
    As the top of my profile states: "What an idiotic, feeble society." I am constantly remarking at how feeble people have become. There's not going to be enough of us incendiary folks with the guts to stand up when it is time.

    I knew about the Loughner guy being ignored but I did not know the Columbine shooters were left so proven yet unchecked. That makes me mad.

    And you are 110% correct about the indoctrination of our youth. My Aunt and My cousin are both teachers. They are PROGRAMMED, insanely authoritarian jerks. I can't even stand to be around them, because they can't help but take every opportunity they find to make jabs at others and display their authoritarian programming. And as a result, my cousin's son (10 yrs old) is a programmed little wimp. He is afraid of EVERYTHING. Short example: My brother was with them at a family reunion type gathering. One of the relatives (a State Trooper) brought out a John Deere 'Gator' and was going to let the kids take turns learning to drive it. After 2 hours of prodding and trying to convince the kid to try it out, he gets on it, sees the mandatory manufacturer sticker that says that states that drivers should be 16 and up and instantly jumps off of it and REFUSES to even get back on it. Also, he was too wimped out to even ride a zipline made FOR THE KIDS that hung at a mere 6 feet off the ground.
  • Marvelo... ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/25 13:22:05
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    When I hear all this talk about *Bullying in school!*
    I tell the victims to *FIGHT BACK* , strike and focus on *ONE POINT* of the assaiant and try your best to destroy it! DO NOT stop kicking, kneeing, punching and elbowing them, even if they "GIVE UP!", until you are *PHYSICALLY RESTRAINED* by adults!

    I had one female principal toactually jump up from her desk and *SCREAM*: "HE WILL BE SUSPENDED IF HE DOES THAT!"

    I looked at her and asked: "And what will *YOU DO*, if he simply continues to takes the beatings like a good little sheep?"
    You could have heard crickets as she swallowed a few times.
    She got this odd look on her face, and at nearly a whisper said: "Suspend him."
    This child, who had been the victim of numberous attacks prior, was never bullied again. (In honesty: He had been capable of fighting back all along, but he'd been sucked into the "Be a Victim" idiocy of public indoctrination.)

    You have pointed out so very clearly, why shootings like at the theater in Colorad happen: It's the indoctination of cowardice.
    You might find "Raging Against Self Defense: A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality" By Sarah Thompson, M.D. interesting.
  • Marvelo... ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/23 16:43:56
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Anyone who can not be trusted to be both *ARMED* AND *Free*, should be confined.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl Marvelo... 2012/07/24 12:16:57
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    +1
    Perhaps.
  • Red Branch 2012/07/23 13:38:28
    Yes
    Red Branch
    +6
    Yes, I would say that everyone refers to honest, decent, hardworking, American citizens.

    Because the dirt bags with mayhem & murder on their minds already carry without regard to the multitude of laws.
  • Splashstorm 2012/07/23 13:18:05
    Yes
    Splashstorm
    +6
    Imagine if everyone had a gun in that theater. The shooter would have been shot down by at least 100 people.
  • Katherine 2012/07/23 13:17:32 (edited)
    Yes
    Katherine
    +8
    Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. The country has a population of six million, but there are estimated to be at least two million publicly-owned firearms, including about 600,000 automatic rifles and 500,000 pistols.

    This is in a very large part due to Switzerland's unique system of national defence, developed over the centuries. Instead of a standing, full-time army, the country requires every man to undergo some form of military training for a few days or weeks a year throughout most of their lives.

    Between the ages of 21 and 32 men serve as frontline troops. They are given an M-57 assault rifle and 24 rounds of ammunition which they are required to keep at home. Once discharged, men serve in the Swiss equivalent of the US National Guard, but still have to train occasionally and are given bolt rifles. Women do not have to own firearms, but are encouraged to.[...]
  • sammanilla Katherine 2012/07/23 16:54:46
    sammanilla
    +1
    "gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept"

    I like the sound of that!
  • MarcusRP sammanilla 2012/07/24 04:07:36
    MarcusRP
    +1
    Very promising.
  • sammanilla MarcusRP 2012/07/24 16:43:36
    sammanilla
    Yes, very promising and it's been going on for generations.

    promising generations
  • rand 2012/07/23 13:14:09
    No
    rand
    +1
    "Everyone" includes the criminal and insane elements. Only persons trained, willing, sane and competent should be licensed to carry IF we want safer circumstances.

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