Would Seeing Your Baby Discourage You From Getting an Abortion?

by SodaHead Living Posted 2010/05/31 03:57:16

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Would you like to see your baby before your abortion?

Abortion rights advocates are up in arms over states that require abortion providers to ask such a question, offering women a chance to see an ultrasound photo before making their final decision, the New York Times reported.

With backing from anti-abortion groups, which argue that sonograms can help persuade women to preserve pregnancies, 20 states have enacted laws that encourage or require the use of ultrasound.

The battle is heating up in Oklahoma, where late last month, the Republican-controlled Legislature enacted a law mandating that women be presented with an ultrasound image and with a detailed oral description of the embryo or fetus.

A state judge quickly stayed the requirement pending a July hearing in a suit filed by two abortion providers.

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Disko Pickle 2010/05/31 16:05:29

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Terrible idea. It would cause abortion rates to skyrocket. Even a rabid anti-choicer would want an abortion after seeing this horrific monstrosity growing inside her.

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swihardt 2012/06/23 03:45:09

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I'd like to tell you a little story about planned parenthood. While my last child was being born at the hospitle, the doctor decided to take the oppertonity to tell my wife "your having a hard enough time as it is with the kids you have now. Your here right? why don't you let me fix that for you? I'll do it for free." Under exteram duress she said yes. without ever talking to me he stearlized her, right there and then. that is how planned parenthood works.......... What my wifes progressive doctor did to her is what Oboma is going to do to this country. No discusion, dont slow down, just do it. Many doctors work hand in hand with planed parenthood. those that do, don't talk to the young mothers about adoption or keeping the baby, but rather, aboriton and sterilization.

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SykPuppy 2011/03/01 03:56:00

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I am so sick of these supposed pro-"life" people and groups. Abortion is NOT an easy decision for anyone, and making a woman go through all this Bible-thumping BS before she has a termination does nothing but make her more and more distressed by the whole situation.

I'm assuming these manic pro-lifers are so pro-child, they are all opening their homes (and wallets) to these unwanted children? Are they adopting and/or fostering these children, and donating substantial chunks of money to organisations and charities that support orphans and abandoned children, as well as children from low-income households?

No!

Until they are willing to put their money and time where their mouths are in regards to what happens to these children when they are born, they need to sit down, shut up and focus on their own lives.

Are those pro-"lifers" in government pushing for programs to help these women with unwanted pregnancies provide for these children with training programs and a welfare safety net?

No! They do nothing but cut these programs to shreds. What they are trying to achieve escapes me, but they need to cease and desist with this lunacy.

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JessicaWolanski 2010/11/13 11:54:14

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That is rubbish, a baby is part of a woman's body. I am 15 weeks pregnant now and it is already a child to me. I would not think of aborting, even if it had a problem. If the baby is destined to live, then it shall

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icymore 2010/07/25 03:37:15

I think it might. When I saw my son and heard his heartbeat for the first time, I got attached. The second time I was pregnant, same thing happened, and I think could have dealt with the miscarriage more easily if it weren't for that stupid ultrasound. But that doesn't mean abortion is the wrong choice. I think this is a bad idea. If she doesn't want a sonogram, it shouldn't be forced.

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DrackolusO'Dell 2010/06/25 16:25:20

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Abortions are good. If I decided (were I a woman) to get an abortion, a picture would not effect my judgment at all. Feti are NOT thinking, and there is evidence to say they don't think for up to three years AFTER birth. An abortion, done properly, would have next to no ill effects, and certainly less than birth would. Getting pregnant is easy, and population needs to go DOWN, not up. Birth control is better, but abortion is a great alternative.
I think forcing something emotional on someone who is so full of hormones already is a crime against logic. Should a woman have enough sense in their head to make this decision, let them do it.

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Jessica... to Drackol... 2010/11/13 11:57:36

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it is your type of thinking, is why the world is where it is now. i don't know where you get your research from but its crap. abortion should only be used as a last resort not a second choice and you men need to learn how to roll a condom on properly

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~•JęššįçãKøtęwã•~(Drøwñįñg) 2010/06/13 17:38:52

Yeah... it did.
But Disko Pickle is right.

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reggie 2010/06/04 16:55:31

This is addressed to Vivian, who obviously does not know fetal development facts:

Month 5 (19- 23 weeks)
The fetus has grown to 8-10 inches and now weighs 3/4 to 1 lb. fetal HAIR begins to grow (including eyebrows and eyelashes)

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ImSoMad 2010/06/02 15:15:48

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I'm PRO LIFE! I can't figure out why schools don't educate young men and women on pregnancy preventions. They hand out condoms, and let kids get a no consent abortion, yet they don't teach them that there are really only 4 days a month to get pregnant. Yeah, it's really hard to figure out. When a girl starts her cycle. She counts the day she started and counts until 12 days after. Days 12-16 are the days that she is fertile and the only chances she can get pregnant. So why don't schools teach this more? Plus they have these neato dip pee sticks, that you can use to check to see if your fertile. They are SO small and discrete. They are just as dummy proof as a pee stick to see if you are pregnant! Why don't they hand those out in High schools instead of condoms? Or with the condoms if they need to! I mean, they should have a pee dip sticks that come with a condom. Then you can be double sure that you won't become pregnant.

Abortion is not an acceptable form of birth control!!!!!

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xkristlex to ImSoMad 2010/06/02 16:46:19

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i agree completely

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xcheshi... to ImSoMad 2010/06/03 13:06:47

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women, an particulary teens, have a cycle that is not really stable

Pill is 99% effective, compared to 80% for condoms or like 50% for calendar.

Your litle sticks would cost more than pills, as the teens cycle aren't stable.

Pill, ring, IUD, etc should be teached, and maybe socially paid so we don't pay more at the end for unwanted pregnancy

We can see the contraception influence on teen pregnancy when you compare USA to Canada, where USA as the double teen pregnancy rate.

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ImSoMad to xcheshi... 2010/06/04 00:18:50

Indubitably. But there are also people that can not take any form of birth control, as it messes with their body chemistry. I am one of those people. I tried several different forms of birth control around 19 and 20 years old, and they increased migraines, I had all kinds of problems. My best friend actually took the depo shot, and after about 6 months of being on the shot, she started heme-raging. Some people have no problem taking the pill or IUD, then there are others that have all kinds of difficulty. My sister actually had some kind of problems with Mireva (IUD). It really messed her up. I can't even remember what it was called, but she had problem after problem after problem after being on that. So I never tried it because I was too scared of the out come.

As for the dip sticks. Yes they are expensive, but an unwanted pregnancy is more expensive. I don't even know why they cost so much!? Because they are just litmus paper. I mean seriously, they should cost pennies!

As for watching the calender. It is effective if the person watching the calender can count 12 days past the first day of their cycle. I have been married for 12 years in July, and have had only two pregnancies. Both of which were planned. I have an 8 year old and a 2 year old. I have never had any proble...

Indubitably. But there are also people that can not take any form of birth control, as it messes with their body chemistry. I am one of those people. I tried several different forms of birth control around 19 and 20 years old, and they increased migraines, I had all kinds of problems. My best friend actually took the depo shot, and after about 6 months of being on the shot, she started heme-raging. Some people have no problem taking the pill or IUD, then there are others that have all kinds of difficulty. My sister actually had some kind of problems with Mireva (IUD). It really messed her up. I can't even remember what it was called, but she had problem after problem after problem after being on that. So I never tried it because I was too scared of the out come.

As for the dip sticks. Yes they are expensive, but an unwanted pregnancy is more expensive. I don't even know why they cost so much!? Because they are just litmus paper. I mean seriously, they should cost pennies!

As for watching the calender. It is effective if the person watching the calender can count 12 days past the first day of their cycle. I have been married for 12 years in July, and have had only two pregnancies. Both of which were planned. I have an 8 year old and a 2 year old. I have never had any problems watching my calender. I have 5 female cousins, and none of them were ever very successful with the pill or shots. Two of them did get pregnant on the pill, and the others just watched their calenders like I did, because they had problems with various kinds of birth control. I guess migraines run in the family, because they had a lot of the same problems I did. One of the other three doesn't want any kids, and has never been pregnant, she is going on 35. One has two kids,and the other isn't quite ready for kids. But none of us have ever had any problems preventing pregnancy with that method.

My doctor says that watching the calender is very effective for women trying to get pregnant as well. If anyone is trying, that is the first thing they will tell them to do, is to get busy during those 4-5 days a month, and to only do it every other day, because then you won't have good swimmers. :)
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xcheshi... to ImSoMad 2010/06/04 11:27:39

there's people that can't, but more the time pass, less the methods have effects on the body

And, actually, the mireva has hormones in it. Maybe your sister should have used a non hormonal IUD.

And I guess the sticks are exepensive because of what it takes for the chemical reacting. not sure, but maybe

The calendar, again, is effective if you have a regular cycle. Which is more when you're adult.

I will give my example : When I was 12, I started my periods. I have a blood problem, so I was 10 days in periods every month. At 13, I was almost anemic after a 40 days periods time on a 60 days (Like, 7 period, 3 nothing, 3 period)

Try counting a 12 days in that hehe

The majority of my friends got only regular after pills, and as for myself, even if I have to change it often, my ring now has permit me not to be on period since december. and pills as teens stopped my cramps

I think emphase should be put on real contraception, and most of all, stops stupid myths about stuff like "it makes me fat"

If you're one of the few case not working, maybe they should give sticks

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JAA to ImSoMad 2010/06/06 01:29:46 (edited)

Not "doing it" is 100% effective as birth control, and it helps distinguish us from animals.

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xcheshi... to JAA 2010/06/06 01:38:53

not doing it is boring, and it's bad for the body if you restrain yourself doing soething you want

Sex has great health advantage.

Maybe being a bit in reality ?

We are animals, anyway

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JAA to xcheshi... 2010/06/06 02:18:23 (edited)

You might be an animal, and that wouldn't surprise me, but many of us are human beings with souls (a conscience, vocabulary, emotions, self-consciousness, volition, reasoning skills, etc.). Sex outside of marriage is a failure of mankind to bring stability to a world gone very, very bad. Thank you for contributing to that endeavor. I bet your mama is proud.

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xcheshi... to JAA 2010/06/06 04:03:12

souls aren't proven, and even then animals could have one.

All the others stuff, we view the animals with a subjective human way to measure it. You have no ideas of what they are really thinking, or talking about.

Marriage is just a symbol and it only counts to people believing in it.

Fall of humanity is about egocentric, not sex outside marriage

Oh, and my mama is proud I don't follow anybody supposed non proven truth for following my own mind.
And she's doing sex outside marriage since 30 years with my father

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JAA to xcheshi... 2010/06/06 12:20:58

Great, now we know how your generation plans to run the universe. I'm glad I won't be around to see it. Thanks for your time and good luck (you'll need it).

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xcheshi... to JAA 2010/06/06 13:46:23

Yeah I know when I'll met your imaginary friend *sigh

running the universe, a big "lol"

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ImSoMad to JAA 2010/06/08 18:01:19

Hey JAA, I think that every person in the world would agree with you that abstaining from sex is 100% effective. That is not the problem. The problem is getting people to refrain from sex, or premarital sex. The topic is abortion. And you know as well as I do, that people are going to do what ever they want to do. You can only teach and guide your children for so long, they are bound to make their own decisions at some point. At that point you are merely a spectator in their lives, and you can only hope, and pray that you taught them well, so that they make wise and good decisions through out their lives. Some kids come from parents that don't give a hoot what their kids do. Some kids come from families that both parents work around the clock to make ends meet, and so their kids are left unattended, or unsupervised. Some kids come from over baring parents that control everything, and the kids just go crazy once you are out of site. You can't be with them 100% of the time, no matter how much you want to be.

You can teach your kids to refrain from having sex, but you had better educate them on other options just in case that someday they find them selves in a situation that they are in the heat of the moment and feel like they have to do the deed. If you don't properly educ...

Hey JAA, I think that every person in the world would agree with you that abstaining from sex is 100% effective. That is not the problem. The problem is getting people to refrain from sex, or premarital sex. The topic is abortion. And you know as well as I do, that people are going to do what ever they want to do. You can only teach and guide your children for so long, they are bound to make their own decisions at some point. At that point you are merely a spectator in their lives, and you can only hope, and pray that you taught them well, so that they make wise and good decisions through out their lives. Some kids come from parents that don't give a hoot what their kids do. Some kids come from families that both parents work around the clock to make ends meet, and so their kids are left unattended, or unsupervised. Some kids come from over baring parents that control everything, and the kids just go crazy once you are out of site. You can't be with them 100% of the time, no matter how much you want to be.

You can teach your kids to refrain from having sex, but you had better educate them on other options just in case that someday they find them selves in a situation that they are in the heat of the moment and feel like they have to do the deed. If you don't properly educate them, then you my dear could possibly be one of the misfortune parents that has a teenage daughter or son come home knocked up. Or you could possible have a scared teenager that turns to abortion so that they don't have to face you or the shame that they feel they have brought upon them self's. What ever the case is. Education on ALL THE FACTS is always going to out way and be more helpful and preventative and effective than NO EDUCATION on the matter! Education could help stop more abortions. And yes seeing your fetus could possibly save life's.

Ps. I have been married for 12 years in July. Am I supposed to refrain from sex? Do you refrain from sex? I 100% know that a smart woman knows that if she refrains form having sex with her husband, it is 100% a sure way to guarantee that he will have sex else where if tempted, and a 90% guarantee for a divorce.

Having sex with the one you love is a very sexy, beautiful thing, and very good for the appetite. But I have a wonderful sex life with my husband. :) I'm a very lucky girl.
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JAA to ImSoMad 2010/06/08 19:38:56 (edited)

I don't know where you got the idea that I think abstaining is a reasonable request to make of people in a world gone crazy. Like in the days of Noah, people are tuned off toward God, and it is the soul of those that have already been born where the focus needs to be. People are not pulled toward darkness, and many Christians today represent God as a mean, spiteful, judgmental mythical person who is not in touch with the real world in which they live. We prove it to them everyday by judging, maligning, name-calling, and condemning them to hell. Who would want to be a Christian with that kind of role-modeling going on?

I seriously have no idea where your whole tirade came from as I'm pro-Choice and realize the mating and sexual habits of my fellow man are not always, or often, within the logical and moral way that God wills for them. I believe in "informed" consent and choices, and NOT in dictating the moral lives of those around me. Were you meaning to give that lecture to an anti-abortionist or a pro-choice person? I really haven't a clue as to your husband-wife having good sex originated. I've been married almost 36 years to the same guy, and we were both virgins when we married, and have had no other partners. And yes, even at our age we have wonderful sex. Sheesh!

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ImSoMad to JAA 2010/06/08 21:43:28

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From everything that you posted, it sounds like you LOVE to dictate the moral lives of those around you, or at least you try to control them! And most of your posts were not very logical as much as they were name calling and bashing.

Christians make great role models if they are true Christians. Christians do not represent God as mean and spiteful. Non Christians do. You represent him as mean, dark, and spiteful. You are seriously miss lead. What kind of Christians do you know?! Probably not very good ones if you are going to make accusations that all Christians are like that. Hitler called him self a Christian. Yet he is not a Christian, and no sane person would ever make that logical connection that he was!

Also if you are pro-choice then why do you care if anyone is abstaining from sex, or if they are getting abortions! You seriously need a clue, or maybe even a mental check into reality, because from one post it sounds like you are Pro Life, and then you state you are Pro Choice, then the next minute you hate younger generations, Christians, and a mean and spiteful God. Whats next, are you going to hate people for being skinny, or large? Should we start a political fight or debate on my ethnicity?

As for your name calling and bashing, you were completely calling some ...

From everything that you posted, it sounds like you LOVE to dictate the moral lives of those around you, or at least you try to control them! And most of your posts were not very logical as much as they were name calling and bashing.

Christians make great role models if they are true Christians. Christians do not represent God as mean and spiteful. Non Christians do. You represent him as mean, dark, and spiteful. You are seriously miss lead. What kind of Christians do you know?! Probably not very good ones if you are going to make accusations that all Christians are like that. Hitler called him self a Christian. Yet he is not a Christian, and no sane person would ever make that logical connection that he was!

Also if you are pro-choice then why do you care if anyone is abstaining from sex, or if they are getting abortions! You seriously need a clue, or maybe even a mental check into reality, because from one post it sounds like you are Pro Life, and then you state you are Pro Choice, then the next minute you hate younger generations, Christians, and a mean and spiteful God. Whats next, are you going to hate people for being skinny, or large? Should we start a political fight or debate on my ethnicity?

As for your name calling and bashing, you were completely calling some random girl an animal and promiscuous, when you don't even know her, or her lifestyle. Were you there? Do you personally know that she is promiscuous or what decisions she has made in her life? No, you are assuming that all younger generations are stupid and promiscuous! I find your posts extremely rude, and disappointing that you are actually a parent! People like you are why there are so many misguided youth. You don't even know what point you are arguing! I'm just going to assume (just like you) that your kids must be a disappointment to you, and that you are some bitter woman with a lot of issues! God bless the man that can stay married to you for 35 + years.
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JAA to ImSoMad 2010/06/08 22:32:43 (edited)

No, in fact, just the opposite. I'm telling the "moral majority" super Christians to leave people be and allow them the free-will and privacy that God expects of us.

The rest of what you wrote . . .
1. When did I call someone "promiscuous" or an "animal?" I'm pro-Choice. I'm not the one calling abortionists "whores," and "murderers," and telling them they're going to hell.
2. "People like you . . ." Don't you love the judging going on around here? Hypocritical Pharisees.'
3. I know exactly what point I'm arguing. Problem is, you can't keep up and don't "get it." That's your problem, not mine.
4. My husband and I agree on these issues, based on daily intake of Bible doctrine for the last 36 years, and your judgment on our marriage is showing AGAIN how superficial and arrogant you are.
5. My one and only child is a Christian, an officer in the USAF, and a cryptologic Hebrew linguist who is studying pre-law. She's the love of my life and I wouldn't trade her in for anything. BTW, I did say I was pro-choice, didn't I? I "chose" my daughter, and would never have "chosen" an abortion, as I believe God has a specific purpose for each of us, and our pain and suffering is a blessed part of that personal sense of destiny and narrow path. Believing in free-will and choice for ...

No, in fact, just the opposite. I'm telling the "moral majority" super Christians to leave people be and allow them the free-will and privacy that God expects of us.

The rest of what you wrote . . .
1. When did I call someone "promiscuous" or an "animal?" I'm pro-Choice. I'm not the one calling abortionists "whores," and "murderers," and telling them they're going to hell.
2. "People like you . . ." Don't you love the judging going on around here? Hypocritical Pharisees.'
3. I know exactly what point I'm arguing. Problem is, you can't keep up and don't "get it." That's your problem, not mine.
4. My husband and I agree on these issues, based on daily intake of Bible doctrine for the last 36 years, and your judgment on our marriage is showing AGAIN how superficial and arrogant you are.
5. My one and only child is a Christian, an officer in the USAF, and a cryptologic Hebrew linguist who is studying pre-law. She's the love of my life and I wouldn't trade her in for anything. BTW, I did say I was pro-choice, didn't I? I "chose" my daughter, and would never have "chosen" an abortion, as I believe God has a specific purpose for each of us, and our pain and suffering is a blessed part of that personal sense of destiny and narrow path. Believing in free-will and choice for others, does NOT mean I would make those same choices myself. Do you not EVEN understand that basic concept? No wonder you're confused!
6. Bitter? ROFL!! I'm wonderfully happy and content with my life, and you? It seems as if you have a few axes to grind.

I will pray for you, that YOUR anger [whose avatar name is ImSoMad] and bitterness, and inability to see the boulder in your own eye for trying to take out the splinters in others, will come to an end one day, and that you will be allowed to know God's love, mercy, and grace as I do. Thank you for your kind words.
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ImSoMad to JAA 2010/06/08 23:16:46

I'm ROFL at all of this! If your so content with your life, then why all the bashing? However I do apologize for commenting on your marriage. That was none of my business, and I shouldn't have mentioned that, or said that about your husband. That was absolutely rude on my part.

I'm actually not bitter or angry. My avatar name, came about when I was researching the subject of Obama Care along with a few other things. I did a google search, and found all kinds of information, as well as sections of the bill, when this forum popped up with a discussion on some of the news bills being passed. I choose that name thinking I was only going to comment on that one subject (which I was angry with at the time). I didn't know that I would like SodaHead and keep commenting on different issues. For the most part, I find most of this a waste of time and energy. Just an FYI, although I'm sure you don't care.

Thank you for your prayers. We all always need prayers, even if the person praying for us prays for the wrong reasons. I will actually be praying for you as well.

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JAA to ImSoMad 2010/06/09 00:02:49

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I'm really not "bashing," just responding to all the naysayers that call me names like "murderer," etc. If they can't take the heat of being known as a hypocrite, hate-filled, etc., then they should either get out of the kitchen or change their evil ways, lol.

This topic is very wearing on the mind and body (sigh), because it IS so emotional. I understand that, and If I had not been responded to like I was a piranha, then I probably would have explained myself better, or had been more "please" and "thank you." I seriously did not call anyone promiscuous or an animal; I was responding to something extremely negative that she said. I'm sure that part didn't get caught.

What makes you think I don't care? Why are you judging me so much? What also makes you think I'm praying for the wrong reason? There sure seems to be a lot of judging going on with you. How about we call a truce and just leave it be? I'll start . . ..

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ImSoMad to JAA 2010/06/09 03:17:30

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Oh no, I meant praying for me for the wrong reason. (that we are in disagreement) I'm really not a judgmental person . Not typically anyways. I guess we all have our moments. I never called anyone an abortionist whore. I would never use that term on a female, for any reason. And I have had a few friends who were Pro Choice and chose to abort their babies. I never treated them with any disrespect towards their decision. I didn't agree with it. Later on these two women would tell me how much they regretted the decision, especially after meeting my daughter, and then again later on after having their own children when the circumstances in their life changed. But in the end it is their choice. I'm Pro Life, but I just feel like abortion shouldn't be treated as a form of birth control. And that people have a CHOICE on different methods as a way to prevent unwanted pregnancies. There are so many ways to prevent a lot of this madness. But these young babies that are the ones that mostly get effected by this, don't ever get a choice or a chance for that matter. When someone tells me that they are Pro Choice, I just want to ask them why didn't they choose better in the first place?! Because they could have chosen a way to not become burden with all this chaos, or have to make a ch...

Oh no, I meant praying for me for the wrong reason. (that we are in disagreement) I'm really not a judgmental person . Not typically anyways. I guess we all have our moments. I never called anyone an abortionist whore. I would never use that term on a female, for any reason. And I have had a few friends who were Pro Choice and chose to abort their babies. I never treated them with any disrespect towards their decision. I didn't agree with it. Later on these two women would tell me how much they regretted the decision, especially after meeting my daughter, and then again later on after having their own children when the circumstances in their life changed. But in the end it is their choice. I'm Pro Life, but I just feel like abortion shouldn't be treated as a form of birth control. And that people have a CHOICE on different methods as a way to prevent unwanted pregnancies. There are so many ways to prevent a lot of this madness. But these young babies that are the ones that mostly get effected by this, don't ever get a choice or a chance for that matter. When someone tells me that they are Pro Choice, I just want to ask them why didn't they choose better in the first place?! Because they could have chosen a way to not become burden with all this chaos, or have to make a choice that they may later regret. I just wish that our youth would be well educated on the matter before they become sexually active. They should know all the facts, risks, and consequences of their actions. But they should also know that if they become pregnant that it isn't the end of their life. My cousin was a teenage pregnancy, and she is now an anesthesiology nurse. (I can't quite remember what her title is). She is an amazing mother, even though she didn't want to be at such an early age in life.

As for this topic. Yes it does wear on the mind and body! Truce agreed upon.

PS. Your daughter sounds like a very smart, and professional young woman!

Blessings
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JAA to xcheshi... 2010/06/06 01:28:12

So, you think the government (aka "We the People") should be responsible for paying for teenagers (or adults for that matter) to be promiscuous? I say give them a job so they can either pay for birth control themselves, or maybe it will help keep them occupied so they won't have time for any hanky panky.

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xcheshi... to JAA 2010/06/06 01:36:36

there's nothing wrong about making love and it's not being "promiscuous"

And if we don't pay their abortion or birth control, we will pay more at the end anyway

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JAA to xcheshi... 2010/06/06 02:25:01

Sex outside of marriage (far from "love") is "promiscuous;" look the word up in a reputable dictionary. I don't want my hard-earned money paying for sex on demand or babies/abortions that come as a result of that promiscuous behavior. I have no problem helping someone in the case of rape, incest, or the mother's life being in danger, though.

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xcheshi... to JAA 2010/06/06 04:07:12

"promiscuity denotes sex with relatively many partners"
not sex outside marriage

bible isn't a reputable dictionary

If you're not paying for abortion, or birth control, you will pay for it's consequences.
And not only financially

Accidents don't happen to only people who sleep with anyone, and accidents happen even when you are on birth control
Destroying the mother's life and possibility will have consequences on society

Anyway, what am I doing talking with a blinded religious person who will never open up to reality

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JAA to xcheshi... 2010/06/06 12:22:35

Oh, the wisdom of youth, doesn't it just want to make you want to throw up? What are you doing, indeed. Please don't bother to respond to my posts again until such time as humility has begun to develop in your little soul.

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xcheshi... to JAA 2010/06/06 13:47:00

humility ? I'm not the one judging my own religious values are true ahah

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ImSoMad to JAA 2010/06/08 18:21:46

I have had sex with one partner my entire life. We did have sex with each other before marriage, and NO, I would not consider my self promiscuous. Promiscuous is having sex with many partners. We got married at the age of 18 and 19 years old, after I graduated from high school. And him after his first year of college. I put him though college first, then he put me through. We both have bachelor degrees. We have paid for everything we own on our own with no help from our parents. That includes, our house that we bought together at the age of 19 and 20 years of age. Our cars, our food our education. No one footed our bill. We have worked hard our entire life. We did not refrain from sex. Yet we don't take any kind of birth control as I stated earlier in the conversation with the other young lady.

I am a big christian, and in that comes a certain responsibility as well as behavior. You are supposed to be compassionate and understanding. You rubbing somones nose in on their mistakes or their life is just RUDE with a capital R! Shame on you for telling xcheshi..... 'you bet her Mama is proud of her and wow how dumb you think she is.' That is not Christian like behavior at all! Shame on you, for being and adult and acting like a child, yet trying to scold someone that...

I have had sex with one partner my entire life. We did have sex with each other before marriage, and NO, I would not consider my self promiscuous. Promiscuous is having sex with many partners. We got married at the age of 18 and 19 years old, after I graduated from high school. And him after his first year of college. I put him though college first, then he put me through. We both have bachelor degrees. We have paid for everything we own on our own with no help from our parents. That includes, our house that we bought together at the age of 19 and 20 years of age. Our cars, our food our education. No one footed our bill. We have worked hard our entire life. We did not refrain from sex. Yet we don't take any kind of birth control as I stated earlier in the conversation with the other young lady.

I am a big christian, and in that comes a certain responsibility as well as behavior. You are supposed to be compassionate and understanding. You rubbing somones nose in on their mistakes or their life is just RUDE with a capital R! Shame on you for telling xcheshi..... 'you bet her Mama is proud of her and wow how dumb you think she is.' That is not Christian like behavior at all! Shame on you, for being and adult and acting like a child, yet trying to scold someone that doesn't have your age or your insight on life. She doesn't have the same opinion as you, so you should be talking to her, not at her. Education and explaining the facts are key to any argument. Trying to humiliate them, or calling them stupid is just treating them less than human! You being the big humanitarian you claim to be should know this! Grow up, and get some etiquette!

From the wikipedia
"Promiscuous" redirects here. For other uses, see Promiscuous (disambiguation).

In human sexual behavior, promiscuity denotes sex with relatively many partners. In polygamy it is distinguished from promiscuity.
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Broken 2010/06/02 15:01:18

+3
I agree with any law that has someone who is considering killing an unborn baby reconsider. I believe that Life begins at conception. I believe that abortion kills a human life.

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JAA to Broken 2010/06/06 01:32:42

Life does begin at conception, but "human" life begins at birth, when the baby takes its first breath.

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Nauticaa to JAA 2010/06/06 04:08:59

Please watch this video and then tell us your thoughts?

http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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JAA to Nauticaa 2010/06/06 12:23:04

Who is "us"?

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Nauticaa to JAA 2010/06/06 13:18:50

People reading this post?

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JAA to Nauticaa 2010/06/06 14:46:04

I thought maybe you had a few particular in mind, or a wolfpack who do this for fun, attacking those that don't agree with them. Just wanted some clarification is all.

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Nauticaa to JAA 2010/06/06 15:16:42

Not at all - just want your honest opinion. I was unaware of the process and thought maybe others would like more information before completely making up their minds.

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