WORDS? JUST WORDS? Based on quotes from Obama's book, should we believe anything he says? Has he ruined his credibility?Are the concepts on which Obama's platform are based on, "unity" and "change", JUST WORDS?

We are all familiar with Obama "borrowing" Duval Patrick's ideas. Who, do you think Obama "borrowed" this next paragraph from, out of Obama's book, WRITTEN IN 1996 (yes, 1996) from?: "Black p... We are all familiar with Obama "borrowing" Duval Patrick's ideas.

Who, do you think Obama "borrowed" this next paragraph from, out of Obama's book, WRITTEN IN 1996 (yes, 1996) from?:
"Black politicians discovered what white politicians had known for a very long time: that race-baiting could make up for a host of limitations. Younger leaders, eager to make a name for themselves, upped the ante, peddling conspiracy theories all over tow -the Koreans were funding the Klan, Jewish doctors were injecting black babies with AIDS. It was a shortcut to fame, if not always fortune; like sex or violence on TV, black rage always found a ready market." Source: Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.186 Aug 1, 1996

WORDS? JUST WORDS?

In his own memoir "Dreams From My Father," Obama described how an early meeting with Wright quickly devolved into Wright telling him in paranoid terms that the black man will never be safe in America. Obama told of an early sermon that preached of a world of white greed, "a world where cruise ships throw away more food than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere." --Obama's Clintonesque Speech, by Brent Bozell III, March 26, 2008

WORDS? JUST WORDS?

So what "WORDS" does Obama believe in? Should Obama's credibility as the self proclaimed messenger of "unity" and "change" be questioned when it appears that he holds a bias when it comes to matters related to race? Does he hold a "double standard"? Did Obama condone Wright's behavior by not addressing it back when he first realized Wright had paranoid beliefs? Is he really even commited to healing race relations, or just pandering to both sides of the issue for political gain? Are his true priorities, reflected in his choice of denying he heard Wright speak in such a manner? Are there other "circumstances" in which Obama will not own up to something he witnessed, or did? He's already exhibited such behavior in annoucing to crowds he's passed legislation, that never passed- www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html

As with the Rev. Wright issue, and NAFTA with regards to Canada, perhaps Candice Toliver's criticism toward Hillary re: the Martin Luther King Jr. comment, is more properly applied toward Obama:
~“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments - and not just these latest comments but really a pattern, or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” she said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation or is there something bigger behind all of this?”

WORDS? JUST WORDS?

The sad thing is even Martin Luther King Jr. III said he didn't feel Hillary intended to demean the work of his father, and felt the comment was "blown out of proportion". THAT was the example, of someone who wants to heal race relations.

The fact is Obama first denied hearing anything inflammatory by Wright, knowing full well he did. He knew he was not being honest about it. But he denied it. "I want change from Old Washington"

WORDS? JUST WORDS?


If he's running as the candidate who is honorable, and wants to bring people together, should he not hold everyone, including Wright, to the same standard? Shouldn't his history, exemplify, a decision making process that demonstrates the values he believes in? He knew Wright's paranoid generalizations about white people were not "helpful" to black's perceptions of whites, and could poison the congregation's minds, potentially harming any "goal" rising past hurdles that alienate the black community from accepting trust or unity with the white community. "I want to UNITE the country."

WORDS? JUST WORDS?

If what attracted you to Obama in the first place, is not demonstrated in his behavior, why would you continue to support him? Unless like Obama with Wright, you don't expect your leader to reflect the values that lead you to consider him for President in the first place. When should have Obama expected Wright to act like a messenger of Christ? When should we expect Obama to stop using people's suspicion of government, to falsely accuse others of ridiculous claims? When should we expect Obama, to tell us if he really plans to re-negoitate NAFTA, if he really plans on having troops out of Iraq by a certain period, or if he really "just discovered" and "just heard" Wright's radical statements?

If Obama cannot assert himself to promote "unity" and "change" within his own Christian church, how can we expect him to "lead" us to anywhere but more conflict and contraversy? Obama NEEDED to talk with Rev. Wright about the lessons learned from the past, that resulted in the suffering of blacks--that when people judge others based on generalizations and on race, nothing good can come of it.

Even if one can somehow convince themself that it's okay for a Pastor to poison his congregation with suspicious beliefs about the government and other races, we can't discount Obama joined a church that subscribes to the "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness", as a "black value". Isn't that sort of a goal for most people in our country, to do well for themselves and be part of the Middleclass?

What are we trying to prove by abandoning our critical thinking? For some reason, many people are knocking themselves out trying to ingore all the obvious signs, that Obama has not chosen to live a life that exhibits pride of having a mixed cultural heritage, and may even hold resentment toward his mom's ancestry.

We could make a boat load of excuses up for why the "Old South" had their own reasons for being against civil rights--radical beliefs that they held. But whatever the reason, it doesn't matter, there's absolutely no excuse for generalizing any behavior upon an entire group. There are plenty of instances where greed, shelfishness, waste, and other ills of society, are not characteristics held by any one particular race .

There were many whites that did not participate in slavery, who did not believe in segregation, who truly accepted all races as equal, as exemplified in those people who held power, that voted for change. Yet Obama, the uniter, allowed Wright to continue evoking black rage in his sermons. Obama is living proof that this country is not as racist as Wright claims. Obama is living proof that opportunity is available if sought, Obama is proof that this country has evolved, that this country could not be where it is unless a substantial amount of white people had good within them too, to strive for what is right. Is it right for Obama to defend Wright despite the damage Wright may have perpetrated with his hate filled words, then attack Hillary and alienate her from what black support she did have with paranoid accusations of demeaning Martin Luther King Jr., despite Martin Luther King Jr. III stating he did not believe that to be the case?

Obama would like you to believe Rev. Wright's "dumb comments" (as he put it) were, "a mistake". He stated on The View, "how would you like it if the dumbest 6 things you've said in your life were played over and over again in a continuous loop?" Ah... well, first of all, I wouldn't allow those "dumb" things to be recorded on tapes to be sold as a representation of my church. Secondly, my personal feelings that I know some people may be offended by, I don't feel comfortable announcing them to everyone at work, much less in the middle of a church. I might say some stupid things time to time, but usually it's something that comes out wrong, and it just sounds bad....but I didn't mean it that way, and realize I made a mistake. I hardly feel Rev. Wright is sorry for anything, other than hurting Obama's chances of getting elected.

What the heck ever happened to the notion of equality? Why was equality a nobile concept when it was demanded from others, but now it's okay to abandon it? Why does his platform of "change" and "unity", not reflect itself in the philosophy of where he chooses to worship Christ's values? If Obama believes "all men were created equal", then why is he making exceptions?

Unless to Obama, WORDS, are just that, ONLY words.
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  • +20 / -2 raves fll April 01, 2008 03:40:57

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    He is an opportunistic, ambitious politicain using the race card both ways to box Hillary into a corner, and win the nomination. He may very well succeed, but, in the process, will destroy the democratic party for decades!!!
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  • [-] shadow April 26, 2008 19:46:20

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    His actions keep giving him up for the racist he is...
  • [-] u funny April 19, 2008 00:27:26

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    he is lieing about his life and he has been tought to speak well but he is going to lose he's not JESUS CHRIST and he needs to get off his high horse
  • +2 raves [-] Mtnman April 16, 2008 04:11:13

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    He seems to say whatever his current audience wants to hear. On occasion he talks faster than he thinks (or reads) and his true thoughts slip out. I believe most of what we hear is him reading what his speechwriters want us to hear.
  • [-] Janet C K Mtnman April 16, 2008 18:29:03
    I'd have to agree with that! lol
  • +1 / -1 raves [-] redrose_4264 April 13, 2008 22:45:26

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    His words are empty vessels that sail out to sea , never again to be found for you or me. That rythmes. I think.
  • +1 / -1 raves [-] BITE ME! April 12, 2008 12:15:35

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Words! Empty words!
  • +1 / -1 raves [-] fourthsign April 05, 2008 04:19:58

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    MLK said: " if you can't fly, RUN, if you can't run, WALK, if you can't walk, CRAWL".... well obama hasn't done any of these things; he has taken a FREE ride on the backs of many and he hasn't had a problem taking credit for other people's hard work!

    check myspace blog and see what I have put together; share this with everyone you know; we have to bring obama down from this FREE ride he has been getting from the mainstream media as well!

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  • +2 / -1 raves [-] pet713~for liberty April 03, 2008 02:55:09

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Obama has copied other people's speeches and ideas. He is just full of empty words. He has no credibility of his own from which to govern this country.
  • +2 / -1 raves [-] mr jiggs pet713~... April 13, 2008 13:04:48
    You are soooooooo correct!! He copied quite a few clips from the Gov. of my state Deval Patrick and they are like two peas in a pod. I knew from day one that Patrick was a big phony, and when Obama came on the scene it was like a repeat. Guess what!!!!!!!!!!!! Gov. Patrick hasn't done a blessed thing since he's been in office even though the state is one of the bluest in the country..IMO Obama will also COPY THAT..
  • [-] pet713~... mr jiggs April 21, 2008 08:22:17 (edited)
    For sure he has that right, if he is elected. But he hasn't accomplished on blessed thing for Illinois voters, either! But, I hope you are wrong and he doesn't get the chance to copy anything else.
  • +3 / -1 raves [-] Archie April 02, 2008 20:42:14

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    But which actions should we take into consideration before voting for Obama (if he is our candidate) in November? There is more "inaction" than negative or positive action. The guy is know for his speeches and community service...well that is not enough for me.
  • [-] pet713~... Archie April 21, 2008 08:24:40
    He isn't known in Illinois, because I live here. He hasn't done one thing for all of Illinois. Yes, maybe, for his black folk brothers and we all know they need as much help as they can get. But for all of Illinois, no way has he helped this state.
  • [-] Jane He... Archie May 21, 2008 23:19:00
    Isn't inaction as negative or sometimes even more negative than negative action?
  • +4 / -1 raves [-] Studied April 02, 2008 15:54:06

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Just words and more words that all contradict each other. Here we are almost finished with the primaries and we still do not know who THE REAL BARACK OBAMA IS.
  • +5 / -1 raves [-] JnMO April 02, 2008 01:54:51

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Everyday thousands and thousands not only witness but enjoy drama, movies, and television. We have all seen actors and actresses speak emotionally and passionately but that is all they are, actors and actresses. We are witnessing obama perform and moving many people but should obama receive the Democratic nomination, we will witness horror that will make 9/11 pale in comparison.
  • +6 / -1 raves [-] suzie April 01, 2008 21:26:53

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    He gives good speaches. That's about all I can say for him. I'm afraid he'll be a disaster as President.
  • +7 / -1 raves [-] Roxie April 01, 2008 20:57:49

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    He is A Mirage and his words are like smoke... 1st wind and poof, gone!
  • +1 raves [-] pet713~... Roxie April 21, 2008 08:27:23
    Right on, Roxie! That's what he did in Illinois once he became senator. Poof, I am off to bigger and better things, namely the WH.
  • +6 / -1 raves [+] Lykos April 01, 2008 20:49:12

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    moderated...
  • +6 / -1 raves [+] aace April 01, 2008 17:40:59

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    moderated...
  • +4 / -2 raves [-] Lou April 01, 2008 16:50:02

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    MAKING SURE the Racist Muslim IS NOT ELECTED... Barack Hussein Obama is such a LIAR that SHAME on the GOD DAMN AMERICANS that vote for him allowing Barack Hussein Obama destroy our political Federal Government. As a intelligent DEMOCRAT I will be forced to vote Republican this time!
  • +8 / -1 raves [-] Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... April 01, 2008 15:20:39

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    A bad choice for President, very bad. In an effort to be succinct, inept, inexperienced, judgement-free race baiter. Nuf said!
  • +7 raves [-] JRenee~DTNS April 01, 2008 14:58:15

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    I take issue with what Obama said in the interview included in the video clip supplied here. "If I had heard them (Rev. Wright's controversial remarks) REPEATED, I would have quit."

    Repeated? Hearing "God damn America!" once isn't enough?
  • -2 raves [-] Kat JRenee~... April 01, 2008 18:45:57
    it was proven that he was not present during that sermon, he was in Miami.
  • +5 / -1 raves [-] Headhun... Kat April 01, 2008 19:55:13
    Which sermon there are several that this occured at. was it the 2001 9/16 sermon about America Deserving the 9/11 terror attack or the 2003 or 2005 or this past Christmas. And I guess hge also didn't read trhge letter reprinted from hamas about destroying Israel, And knew nothing about the unflagging support of Louis Farrakhan by Wright.
  • +4 raves [-] Roxie Kat April 01, 2008 21:11:15
    So that was the ONLY sermon that was so racist?
    The one and only one?
    Doubtful.
  • +5 raves [-] suzie Roxie April 01, 2008 21:23:06
    I've personally downloaded several snips of sermons that he gave. It's quite evident how the pastor feels.
  • +3 raves [-] Roxie suzie April 01, 2008 22:21:53
    I guess that's why his church-groupies are building him that 1.6 million dollar house.
  • +1 raves [-] pet713~... Roxie April 21, 2008 08:30:16
    No it's because Michelle is always whining about not having enough $$$$!
  • +1 raves [-] Roxie pet713~... April 21, 2008 14:53:21
    She's a piece of work!
  • +1 raves [-] pet713~... Roxie April 21, 2008 17:17:02
    Roxie:

    Yes, but big or little spoiled brats, always seem to get their way. When they screamed loud enough!

    So the $26,000.00, they donated to their church last year, is really going to get them a $1.6 million house? $26,000 for a $1.6 million return. I say that is pretty cunning and elitist!
  • [-] Roxie pet713~... April 21, 2008 17:35:28
    Yup!
  • +4 raves [-] JRenee~... Kat April 01, 2008 21:27:35
    I'm sure he has since heard it broadcast. Does he doubt it was really said?
  • +3 / -1 raves [-] Janet C K Kat April 02, 2008 03:52:32
    "I have to say that the particular statements that have been pulled out of Rev. Wright's sermons are ones I profoundly disagree with. And if I had heard Rev. Wright making those statements while I was sitting in the pews, I would have talked to him afterwards and said, 'I'm troubled by these statements, and I think they don't reflect my truth and how I feel about this country or race relations." Obama, Sun Times Interview

    "....If I ever heard any statements emanating from somebody in our campaign, whether a staff person or volunteer that I thought was bigoted or derogatory, racist or anti-Semitic, or sexist in anyway than those people would be removed from my campaign." Obama " "

    "...it's not surprising that in December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."
    After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of M...
    "I have to say that the particular statements that have been pulled out of Rev. Wright's sermons are ones I profoundly disagree with. And if I had heard Rev. Wright making those statements while I was sitting in the pews, I would have talked to him afterwards and said, 'I'm troubled by these statements, and I think they don't reflect my truth and how I feel about this country or race relations." Obama, Sun Times Interview

    "....If I ever heard any statements emanating from somebody in our campaign, whether a staff person or volunteer that I thought was bigoted or derogatory, racist or anti-Semitic, or sexist in anyway than those people would be removed from my campaign." Obama " "

    "...it's not surprising that in December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."
    After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright's church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader."--Wallstreet Journal online, Ronald Kessler,
    March 14, 2008

    "I had not heard him make such, what I consider to be objectionable remarks from the pulpit. Had I heard them while I was in church, I would have objected."

    In his own memoir "Dreams From My Father," Obama described how an early meeting with Wright quickly devolved into Wright telling him in paranoid terms that the black man will never be safe in America. Obama told of an early sermon that preached of a world of white greed, "a world where cruise ships throw away more food than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere." --Obama's Clintonesque Speech, by Brent Bozell III, March 26, 2008



    http://www.suntimes.com/news/...

    Can we stop being in denial? The man could shoot his followers, and they would apologize for being in his way.
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  • +4 raves [-] JustSaying April 01, 2008 14:24:10

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Is it really a surprise? What politician (be they black, white, whatever race) does not make a habit of making speeches that they think we all want to hear, with absolutely no intentions of following through with the promises from that speech?

    I think it is sad that this presidential election has come down to race and gender. Instead of concerning ourselves with such as that, we should all be shouting we want a change, we want something different than the wrangling of Republicans and Democrats who are more loyal to their parties than to the American citizens. We NEED someone who has the gumption and the courage to stand up for what is RIGHT, not for what their political party may have on their agenda.

    Too bad Ron Paul is simply discounted, the American citizens will NOT take anyone seriously that is not a candidate of the two dominant political parties. When this country comes tumbling down, we can blame the politicians, but we also must blame ourselves for being led as if we were sheep. Too many people are caught up with day to day life, working, covering the mortgage, making sure that our children have all the 'trappings' that other children have, and so little time considering what is going on with our government.
  • +7 / -1 raves [-] runner April 01, 2008 13:44:12

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    In addition, his words are often without substance. they seem to be flowery without any meaning or purpose.
  • +4 raves [-] Roxie runner April 01, 2008 21:12:10
    Smoke screen..........(scented) to boot!
  • +8 / -1 raves [-] Headhunter 13 April 01, 2008 12:46:37 (edited)

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Obama does read very well but we are not in need of a someone than can Read other peoples words. We need as Leader. A man or woman that can get things accomplished and has some sort of a track record. Obama adds his name to bills and calls them his own. HE ran and won a Senate set and then instead of leading for IL almost immediately started running for higher office. This just 6 moths after publicly stating he wouldn't because he did not have the experien ce.

    One other area that shows his true lack of leadership ability is the fact that he is always being led. First my hi Wife who led him when he was an intern, who led him to Resko and then led him to Wright and the TUCC. Then he was led by Wright (his own admission) who became a mentor, an uncle an inspriation. What an inspiirtion to hate? He stated the older semstors convinced him to run. How many leaders follw other people like he does? Again this is not a leader but someone who is led. Do we really need another puppet with not real or orginal ideas the lead this country further into 3rd world status.Can another leader in training lead? I think not.
  • +7 / -1 raves [-] Dwight Mann April 01, 2008 06:35:50 (edited)

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    Obama is an empty and lackluster character, totally lacking in the qualities that it takes to be the President. His candidacy is seriously dividing this country along the old racial lines, simply because he has no other redeeming qualities of note to entitle him to the Presidency.
    How is it that our peoples have become so mentally dim in the last 10 years.
    I am seriously scared of an Obama presidency. Thats is why I am doing whatever I can to discredit the Man. . .
  • +10 / -1 raves [-] Pearlie April 01, 2008 05:12:59

    Yes, anyone can write a persuasive speech and not mean it, actions speak louder than words

    We all can see how the media portrayed Obama as the new kind of clean politician. We all know that's a lie and all his true colors were shown all over the media, but it doesn't matter cause they will defend him till the end. The media (MSN) etc,are slamming Hillary to make Obama look good. Hush up on the Rev. Wright story.
    WE are smarter than that. Obama's words are just empty words, especially his Book.
    Thanks! Janet for all the information! Can you post that on MSNBC?

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