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On the other hand, none of these qualites can be demonstrated to be biological in nature. In fact, all of these are qualities outside of the natural realm. All of these qualities can be said to be a choice. You can choose to love your son, or not.
Actually, I read psychology from a Christian perspective. The book "The Five Languages of Love" and "Wild at Heart" have helped me interact with people in a much more understanding way. In my younger years the only religious material I ever read were books that made me knowlegable about the bible. Then when I got older, I picked up some books about social interactions from a biblical perspective, and I've learned a lot. "Wild at Heart" is actually written for men, but I learned more about myself after reading that book than I learned in my entire lifetime.
There actually is a outlier group of scientists who believe that if something can't be measured, such as love, it doesn't exist. I never, ever believed that. But this is something to think about. Science doesn't "disprove" that homosexuality is innate. Neither does it prove that it is innate. In the same way, Science doesn't "prove" the creation account, but neither does it disprove it.
As for psychology, I'm always very skeptical of any science from a religious (any religion) perspective. When I was younger, and a believer, I read a few books by James Dobeson. This man is a hack of the highest order. His manipulative and condescending language dangerous. I've read similar books by James Kennedy, and a few other religious leaders, with similar results.
As I said before, I don't consider psychology a science, as such. I consider it an art. However it is an art which employs scientific method. That is to say that when studying psychology, one should not start out with a clear goal in mind, but rather a question. Then one should follow the evidence and experiments wherever they go, until a conclusion is found.
Dobeson and his ilk, don't follow scientific method. They start with the conclusion in mind, and look for (and often make up) evidence to support it. I suppose one could call that artistic, but it certainly isn't honest.
In so far as you assertion that psychology employs the scientific method--that is ot what Nicholas Cummings states a former president of the APA.-at least in regards to homosexuality.
As for Dr. Cummings, Homosexuality was removed from the DSM, because there was no basis for placing it there, other than puritanical moralism. There is no apparent harmful effect inherent to it. It does not dominate a persons life, by its presence alone. In fact, study after study has demonstrated that in almost every psychological category, homosexuals profile almost exactly the same as heterosexuals on average.
Dr. Cummings is wrong.
Dr Cumming's education and credentials speak for themselves. Many men and women leave homosexuality. Michael Glatze always comes to mind, but there are many, many more. In fact a websearch instantly provides hundreds of websearches of men and women who leave homosexuality.
And with due respect for Dr. Cummings; I would not consider Galeleo an expert on space today. In his time he certainly was, but science has advanced past him; just as psychology has advanced past the experties of Dr. Cummings.
As for people "leaving homosexuality", they don't. Not really. They might marry someone of the opposite sex (with whom they never have sex) or they might simply become celibate. But they never stop feeling the attraction to the people who attract them. They can't brainwash that out. They can only guilt them into ceasing the behavior. This almost always results in depression, and often in self-destructive behavior like drug-abuse and even suicide. There is no such thing as an ex-gay. There is only a sad lonely person who has been branwashed by the church into thinking that he will go to hell if he doesn't pretend to be something he's not.
Galeleo's science hasn't been disproven since he describedit. What was true about the universe then, is true now.
As for men and women not really leaving homosexuality. tell them about it, not me. They seem pretty happy by my book, and their marriages appear to be wildly successful--more successful than the marriages of men and women who claim to have never had SSA.
Even prohomosexual researchers are giving up on that trainride. Do you remember the two so-called "homosexual penguins"? Buddy and Pedro were mated with females, and it happened without the slightest hitch.
"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman" - Catharine MacKinnon
"The nuclear family must be destroyed ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process" - Linda Gordon
"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women ... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971)
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" - Ti-Grace Atkinson
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"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman" - Catharine MacKinnon
"The nuclear family must be destroyed ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process" - Linda Gordon
"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women ... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971)
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" - Ti-Grace Atkinson
"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice" - Ti-Grace Atkinson
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" - Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression" - Sheila Jeffrys
"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs" - Catharine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; Universities of Michigan & Yale)
"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies
"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive ... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo" - Jodie Foster, Actress - as quoted in The New York Times Magazine
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race" - Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference" - Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime
"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of 'sex acts' ... includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder" - Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document (A Southern Women's Writing Collective: Women Against Sex)
2. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - feminist leader Sheila Cronan
5. "Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women.... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971)
8. "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them" - Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College, and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman
9. "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change
that" - Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, The Daily Illini, April 25, 1981
I do not believe all sex is good or acceptable. Rape is not. Child-molestation is not. Bestiality or necrophilia certainly are not. Any sex in which one partner is involved against his/her will, is wrong. Consensual sex, on the other hand, between any two adults is not, by definition, wrong. Extenuating circumstances such as unfaithfulness to ones spouse, can make it wrong; but it isn't inherently so.
That is the problem with your argument. You are taking the exact same stance as feminists who call marriage, rape.
And we aren't talking about right and wrong. Don't change the terminology in the middle of this discussion. We are discussing "natural," and that is where I intend to stay.
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There is no homosexual genitalia. The Penis is a heterosexual male organ, and the vagina is a heterosexual female organ. They are formed to function with the opposite gender sexual organ.
The function of the anus was not designed for penetration with any organ at all. It is a function of the metabolism and digestion systems in the body. It tears easily, and it is one of the reasons there are so many homosexual diseases. HIV, being one which is over-represented in the male homosexual population. Gay Bowel Disorder is another disease caused by using the anus as a sexual organ. This isn't natural, and it most decidedly isn't healthy.
As for your point about genitalia, you're just wrong. Your body parts don't have a sexual orientation. They are just sex organs. it is your mind that is either gay, straight, or bisexual. Your body wasn't designed at all. It evolved, and it did so with MANY flaws. Examples include your apparently useless tonsils and appendix, and the fact that on a long enough lifetime, cancer is inevitable.
Sex of any kind, when practiced responsibly and with respect for each partner from the other, is NOT harmful. It can become so if it is done roughly. A vagina can tear, just like a rectum. Any sex can be good or bad. It is the individual and his/her behavior which make them so.
You are claiming things that are not in evidence too, and some for which there is evidence to the contrary.
I don't have a heterosexual heart, or a heterosexual fingernail. A persons gender is physical. Their sexual orientation is psychological and chemical. This is common knowledge. You're actually the first person I've ever heard talking about the sexual orientation of organs. Amazing.
It must be equally stunning for you to be informed that the purpose of the anus is for elimination of the products of metabolism, and is in fact part of the digestive system. You have my deepest sympathy. Perhaps these graphics which are taken from my freshman A&P; class will help.
Just so you know, the defacation matter (feces) which are forced from the anus from rectum contraction consists fo "undigested food residues, sloughed off epithelial cells, millions of bacteria and enough water to allow for a smooth passage" (Marieb 807)
No one stated that you had a heterosexual heart or a hetrosexual fingernail. That is a strawman argument that you are tossing at me. I just don't respond to fallacious logic.
But as a matter of fact, every single cell in your body has xy DNA, and every single cell in my body has xx DNA. --except for RBCs which don't contain an nucleus.
And just for that I am going to rave you.
Mea Culpa.
But I stand by my argument that the sex organs are heterosexual. That I stand on.
Males (XY) have male sexual organs that match in form and function with female (XX) sexual organs, all the way down to molecular pathways.
Females (XX) have female sexual organs that match in form and function with male (XY) sexual organs, all the way down to the molecular pathways.
Homosexuals don't have homosexual organs.
Now let me explain this again:
Males (XY) have male sexual organs that match in form and function with female (XX) sexual organs, all the way down to molecular pathways.
Females (XX) have female sexual organs that match in form and function with male (XY) sexual organs, all the way down to the molecular pathways.
Here are some examples:
testes--------------ovaries
sperm--------------ova
ductis deferens--fallopian tube
I don't know why you keep arguing with me about this. I'm way too educated and intelligent to fall for it.
There's nothing to 'agree with.'
I was raving the person with whom you were speaking, and the screen jumped.
Gotta love those SH glitches.
Moving right along...
You're weird.
Now go away; I have people who are actually interesting to converse with.