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Will there EVER be PEACE in the MIDDLE EAST?

Drue-AFCL 2012/09/18 16:50:44
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  • JJ Rage 2012/09/18 17:08:52
    NO
    JJ Rage
    +1
    This entire world is about to lose any hope of peace!
  • voice_m... JJ Rage 2012/09/18 17:41:16
    voice_matters
    why say that?
  • JJ Rage voice_m... 2012/09/18 22:10:46
    JJ Rage
    Check this out. I hope it isn't true.

    Albert Pike. A civil war officer some how predicted what is going on in the middle east way back in the 1870s. That is correct. One man was able to predict was is happening right now. Not only did he predict the events, he predicted the time table of events. He was has been dead on so far. If his predictiions hold true, there will be non stop violence in the Muslim word exploading into all all out war with Israel. In this war, Israel will be completely destroyed. Everyone who lives there will be dead
    .
    .So why should we listen to the words of a man from so long ago. I will tell you. Its because Albert Pike in the 1870s predicted the time table of WW1 and WW2. He also predicted the outcomes of those wars and did so within a year of both. He was dead on for the reasons the wars started.. Dead on for when the wars would begin. And dead on for the outcomes of those wars. For WW1 he predicted the break up of the Ottaman Impire. The loss of all German terriitory. The breaking up of Nobel Houses in Europe.
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    Albert Pike predicted in WW2 the death of hundreds of millions. He predicted the spread of communism in its aftermath. The spread of athesim in its aftermath. The near extermination of the Jewish people. The creation of a...


























    Check this out. I hope it isn't true.

    Albert Pike. A civil war officer some how predicted what is going on in the middle east way back in the 1870s. That is correct. One man was able to predict was is happening right now. Not only did he predict the events, he predicted the time table of events. He was has been dead on so far. If his predictiions hold true, there will be non stop violence in the Muslim word exploading into all all out war with Israel. In this war, Israel will be completely destroyed. Everyone who lives there will be dead
    .
    .So why should we listen to the words of a man from so long ago. I will tell you. Its because Albert Pike in the 1870s predicted the time table of WW1 and WW2. He also predicted the outcomes of those wars and did so within a year of both. He was dead on for the reasons the wars started.. Dead on for when the wars would begin. And dead on for the outcomes of those wars. For WW1 he predicted the break up of the Ottaman Impire. The loss of all German terriitory. The breaking up of Nobel Houses in Europe.
    .
    Albert Pike predicted in WW2 the death of hundreds of millions. He predicted the spread of communism in its aftermath. The spread of athesim in its aftermath. The near extermination of the Jewish people. The creation of a Jewish State. The driving of the remainder of the Jewish population to the Jewish State.
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    Does this seem nutty to you? Could there have been someone in history who predicted WW1 and WW2. The time table of those wars. The outcome of those wars and you havent heard of him? How could that be possible if this man was so accurate. Afterall that would make Albert Pike the best fortune teller to have ever lived.
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    With Albert Pike being right about the first two world wars, I think we should look at what he said about WW3. Its time table and its outcome. AFTERALL, he predicted WW3 would begin in earnest in 2013, starting with a shock heard round the world in October 2012. Thats right. If Albert Pike was three for three. The shock heard round the world is only weeks away and the begining of WW3 is only months away
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    Now you know Pikes forcasted date. So here is his forcasted time table of events and the outcome. If this doesnt send you to the gun store then nothing will. If his predictions for the next few months doesnt make you fill your cubbards than nothing will.
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    The events to come according to Albert Pike. Restlessness in the Muslim world will expload into hostilities within the nations of Islam. A common enemy will be found and that enemy will first be the country of the Jews. Israel. This country and all who live there will be completely destroyed. Jews through out the world will be hunted down and destroyed.
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    .Then the Muslim nations will turn on the Christians. First in the lands where Muslims are the majority, then exported to the world. The Hindus are to be completely destroyed, attacked from with in and from all sides. The tides of Islam will completely envelope Europe and North America intiially by millions of Muslim immigrants followed by wave after wave of muslim invaders.
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    The Mongals, which it is thought he meant the Chinese not Mongollians will be destroyed by Islam from within. The Mongals will complete the transfermation of the east to Muslim lands. Hundreds of millions of people will die in these wars, but Pikes predictions dont end with the Muslims in control of the world. No the prediction is once the Muslims have killed off the majority of the planets population and have lost the majority of thier own forces in the conflict, a new force will arise and wipe the Muslims off the face of the earth just as they had done to the Christian, Jews, and Hindus.
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    This new force wasnt a new force at all. This new force which according to Pike will be the complete undoing of the Muslims is a force that has been around for a long time. Maybe even thousands of years known by different names and lead by different groups accourding to the times and their resources. They are the Luciferians. Those who worship in secret beind closed doors the Dark Lord. For them Lucifer isnt the devil as iChristioans think of him, but simply another God with greater power. For them , Lucifer demands murder constantly and demands the population of the planet not exceed 500 million soles.
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    Although their religon is kept behind closed doors along with the rituals, you know the names of the modern luciferians. They control the entire banking system world wide. They control the idustrial military complex. They control the media. With 175 firms, they pretty much control this planet. They are the 13 familys of the Illuminati and the hundreds of familys who have married into the illuminati.
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    For the illuminati, those who marry into the systems are considered something like demi Gods because the 13 familys consider themselves actual Gods on Earth, slightly less than the one they worship. Lucifer.
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    So why do I tie in the Luciferians of today, or by thier proper name the Illuminati, because Albert Pike was a Luciferian and he was an Illuminati Demi God. So here is the question for us all. Was Albert Pike really the best at seeing into the future, or were his writtings and letters the road map for Luciferian action. Is his prediction of events that we are all about to go through the results of a vision, or are they the step by step instructions ,pitting us all against one another so that they can clean up the mess an take total control of this planet.
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    I dont know the answer to that question? I dont know for sure what Alber pike was. I do know he was dead on for the first two world wars and it appears he is gping to be dead on once again for the third and final world war.
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    The population lvivng during the two great wars didnt know of the Illuminati. They didnt know of Albert Pike. They didnt know the entire planet was just a murdering playground for a few. But we do. We do and we know who the main characters are. We know why this entire planet may be about to plunge into all out war. We know the Iluminati shapes the weather with Chentrails and HARRP. We know they are cutting off food supplys with GMOs. We know they plan a world wide finacial collapse. We know the evil little pricks are behind what is about to come. What we dont know is which of us amongst us will stand and fight before it is to late. Which among us will take the battle to the Illuminati before they completely destroy us all.
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    Research now Albert Pike. Research the Illuminati. Chemtrails. H.A.R.R.P. who controls the FED. The Builderbergs, CFR, The Trilateral commission. Common Purpose. The Club Of Rome. The 300 hundred. Understand the events to come which are right now were planned out decades in advance. We can take and all die over the next few years or we can take the Illumininati on head on and be done with their Luciferian asses once and for all.
    Sorry it is so long.
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  • cowboy 2012/09/18 17:08:16
  • Turings... cowboy 2012/09/18 17:15:05
    TuringsChild
    +3
    Be patient...

    Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name,
  • NightRyder Turings... 2012/09/18 17:44:08
    NightRyder
    +1
    Now, Turings, explain what that means to those that have never read it. I have and know what it means, it is likely that many church goers have never read it or even heard of it.
  • Turings... NightRyder 2012/09/18 19:09:04
    TuringsChild
    +2
    That would take a full scale Bible Study. As it is, I cut the verse in half to help avoid distractions. I figure if Jesus could do that in His first Temple reading, it's probably ok to do the same thing here. But if you think you can do the verse justice, please do.
  • NightRyder Turings... 2012/09/18 19:14:19
    NightRyder
    +2
    The Harps of God ~ Revelation 15:2

    “And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.”

    A number of commentators believe that there is an indirect reference here to the Red Sea, through which God delivered the first Israel from the wrath of Pharaoh; and the typology certainly fits, but such an interpretation as purely fanciful. I believe it is best to view it as symbolizing the majesty and holiness of God, as in Rev. 4:6. The group here assembled is clearly the host of the redeemed from earth, as in a number of similar visions throughout the prophecy. As for the glass sea, it is the same as that in Rev. 4:6 as well.

    As to the Harps, some believe they are symbolical of heavenly melodies. The harps are a symbol of their victory; of praise and worship to God. I prefer the view that sees the harps as symbols of the songs of the saints, especially of that song which this company was about to sing (Revelation 15:3). It is nothing short of phenomenal that a whole group of commentators go hog wild on this verse and find nothing at all in it except literal harps. Lenski identified them as "zithers of God o...











    The Harps of God ~ Revelation 15:2

    “And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.”

    A number of commentators believe that there is an indirect reference here to the Red Sea, through which God delivered the first Israel from the wrath of Pharaoh; and the typology certainly fits, but such an interpretation as purely fanciful. I believe it is best to view it as symbolizing the majesty and holiness of God, as in Rev. 4:6. The group here assembled is clearly the host of the redeemed from earth, as in a number of similar visions throughout the prophecy. As for the glass sea, it is the same as that in Rev. 4:6 as well.

    As to the Harps, some believe they are symbolical of heavenly melodies. The harps are a symbol of their victory; of praise and worship to God. I prefer the view that sees the harps as symbols of the songs of the saints, especially of that song which this company was about to sing (Revelation 15:3). It is nothing short of phenomenal that a whole group of commentators go hog wild on this verse and find nothing at all in it except literal harps. Lenski identified them as "zithers of God on which to play the music of the glory song!"

    Beasley-Murray saw "harps for the worship of God."

    "They are holding the harps that God had given them."

    Earle was certain that "these harpists sing as well as play."

    But such literalisms here are absolutely preposterous and hopeless.

    Actual harps in heaven? Who could believe such a thing? Does God also keep a department of cats to supply the cat gut strings? Ridiculous! Note that God "gave" these harps to the singers. What else could this be except the voices which were created by God? In the entire history of the world up to this time, that is the only musical instrument which God ever made; and I refuse to believe that he will enter into the manufacture of mechanical instruments for music in heaven.

    In Rev. 8:4, the "incense" is the prayers of the saints; here the "harps" are the songs of the redeemed, as the very next verse says. To literalize "harps" here, and then to declare that this constitutes divine approval of mechanical instruments in Christian worship, is just as unreasonable as it would be to declare the "incense" of Rev. 8:4 to be literal and as divine approval of the burning of sacred incense in Christian worship. I would say that not a single one of the interpreters who did this to the harps would dare to follow their own reasoning and apply it to the incense. How strange it is that the same scholars, who have no trouble at all seeing the symbolical nature of these visions in the instance of the incense, lose all rationality when they come to the "harps."
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  • Turings... NightRyder 2012/09/18 19:37:25 (edited)
    TuringsChild
    +2
    This is why I didn't want to get into detail. We don't really know what the verse means. Your source says that this sea of glass is the same one as in Rev 4, but I disagree. The Sea of Glass before the throne of God is more like a crystal sea. The sea in Rev 8 is mingled with fire. A totally different image. And of course, I eliminated the part about harps entirely, (because?) by that time God will have dealt with radiation issues, whether by removing the effect or by making those with the victory untouchable by any such effect.
  • NightRyder Turings... 2012/09/18 19:54:46
    NightRyder
    +2
    "And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the APPEARANCE OF FIRE, and it had brightness round about." (Ezekiel 1:27)

    "Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For our God is a consuming fire." (Hebrews 12:28-29)

    God is saw as Fire in many verses in the Bible, thus; "sea of glass mingled with fire" makes perfect sense in Symbolic measures that are used in the Bible.
  • Turings... NightRyder 2012/09/18 20:00:50
    TuringsChild
    +2
    I like that too. Ah well, guess we'll just have to wait and see. ;)
  • NightRyder Turings... 2012/09/18 20:22:05
    NightRyder
    +1
    Actually, John did give one vivid picture of Heaven, Revelation 4:1-5. In them we find why John said in Revelation 15:2; "I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire:"

    And later in Revelation 5:11; "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;"

    One has to remember that the prophecies of Revelation are one prophecy happening at the same time in the order of the seals as they are opened, then the Trumpets sound, and as each happens, seven events happen for each. That is the reason that the Book confuses most people.
  • mich52 2012/09/18 17:07:50
  • American Girl 2012/09/18 17:06:25
    NO
    American Girl
    +2
    You cannot have peace in the Middle East when they are committed to our complete an utter destruction.
  • Bronar 2012/09/18 17:06:15 (edited)
    YES
    Bronar
    +3
    But it will take a lot of years, education and generations for these people to realize they are fighting over stupid differences.
  • Juan O'Mara 2012/09/18 17:04:12
    NO
    Juan O'Mara
    +1
    because Rambo Arnold and Chuck norris have not set foot over their yet ;)
  • voice_m... Juan O'... 2012/09/18 17:43:26
    voice_matters
    +1
    war is already ongoing over there. sending the expendables there does nothing to end the fighting. maybe wlker texas ranger might be able to use is indian guide to help though.
  • Juan O'... voice_m... 2012/09/18 17:44:59
    Juan O'Mara
    lol
  • Azazyel's Dragon 2012/09/18 17:03:35
    YES
    Azazyel's Dragon
    +3
    As a Christian I have to say yes. But peace will only come when Christ puts an end to all wars...
  • voice_m... Azazyel... 2012/09/18 17:45:22
    voice_matters
    chjrist ends all wars he does that by bringing the final war that kills anyone he does not want in his father's kingdom. of course that is what the bible claims. that jesus will lead the angels to kill the infedels. sounds like i heard that some where besides the bible..
  • Azazyel... voice_m... 2012/09/18 17:59:28
    Azazyel's Dragon
    I love sugar plums like you...LOL. Just respect my beliefs, and I'll respect your ignorance.
  • voice_m... Azazyel... 2012/09/18 18:06:43
  • Azazyel... voice_m... 2012/09/18 18:11:32
    Azazyel's Dragon
    Kissey, kissey...Sunshine. LOL
  • voice_m... Azazyel... 2012/09/18 18:20:14
    voice_matters
    and blocked
  • mark 1 2012/09/18 17:03:25
    NO
    mark 1
  • Peewee ~PWCM~ 2012/09/18 17:02:38
    NO
    Peewee ~PWCM~
    +3
    Those men aren't about to give up the chokehold on their women. As long as there's radical Islam, there will be no peace.
  • BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/09/18 16:59:44
    YES
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    When the oil runs out and there is nothing left with which to blackmail us
  • Moonage 2012/09/18 16:59:02
    YES
    Moonage
    +5
    As soon as Iran gives Al Qaeda a nuke and they blow themselves up we'll have a shot. Iran's leadership really is that smart.
  • 4570GOVT 2012/09/18 16:58:35
    NO
    4570GOVT
    +4
    There " HAS NEVER BEEN - AND NEVER WILL BE " Peace In The Middle East . If There Is ........................The Countdown Will Have Begun ( from that point )
  • G.J. the time has come to s... 2012/09/18 16:57:57 (edited)
    YES
    G.J. the time has come to switch
    +2
    the battles have gone on before the birth of Christ fighting is the only thing these people know. I've thought the the reason the rulers have been so brutal is because the strong bestiality is need to keep any kind of peace. when will western societies realize we can not give every person a 2 car garage and a 3 bedroom house. some are just to far behind to understand what we think is important.
  • voice_m... G.J. th... 2012/09/18 17:47:12
    voice_matters
    sad how you can not even stay on topic. wonder why that is? oh yes your hatred confuses you. so now tell me libby who is trying to force the middle east to accept a 2 car gargae and a 3 bedroom house.
  • voice_m... G.J. th... 2012/09/18 17:47:55
    voice_matters
    great post to show that the obamalite supporters make the same comments as the obama ones
  • Mat 2012/09/18 16:56:41
    NO
    Mat
    +3
    No! In all recorded history, there has never been an extended period of peace. Futhermore, the bible teaches that a final battle will occur there. Called Amageddon and will include nuclear weapons. But for a remnant, mankind will not survive!

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  • Drue-AFCL Mat 2012/09/18 17:00:03
    Drue-AFCL
    +2
    tHANKS FOR THE LINK!!!
  • RTHTGakaRoland 2012/09/18 16:55:57
    YES
    RTHTGakaRoland
    +2
    Yes, if and only if Islam has its own reformation. This unreformed religion will keep the region in a Middle Ages with RPGs until it does what other major religions did centuries ago.
  • All American 2012/09/18 16:54:30
    NO
    All American
    +4
    Not as long as Islam is around.
  • ♥K14 2012/09/18 16:53:45
    NO
    ♥K14
    +3
    Same as anywhere containing humans....
  • Diane S... ♥K14 2012/09/19 09:26:06
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    Cain killed Abel you may right !!!!!
  • mrdog 2012/09/18 16:52:38
    NO
    mrdog
    +3
    Only in our dreams...bark
  • L1 2012/09/18 16:52:36
    Undecided
    L1
    +3
    I wish. It could be centuries, but I really doubt it ever will be......

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