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Will the GOP regret blocking equal pay for Women?

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Will the GOP regret blocking equal pay for women?

Republican senators unanimously shoot down an equal-pay bill, a vote that the GOP might come to rue in November


posted on June 6, 2012, at 1:59 PM











In defense of the Republicans' vote, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said the equal pay legislation would only reward lawyers for filing discrimination suits.



In defense of the Republicans' vote, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said the equal pay legislation would only reward lawyers for filing discrimination suits. Photo: Benjamin J. Myers/Corbis
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Best Opinion: Talking Points Memo, Wall Street Journal, Forbes



This week, Senate Republicans voted
to block Democratic legislation designed to reduce the persistent pay
gap between genders in the workplace. The bill would boost protections
for women filing gender-discrimination lawsuits, and put the onus on
employers to prove that wage disparities between men and women (who
typically earn just 77 cents
for every dollar a man earns) are not gender-related. Democrats say the
law is needed, but some see the bill as an electoral strategy to
convince voters that Republicans are waging a "War on Women." The GOP
says the bill would only lead to a job-killing flood of litigation
against businesses. Will the GOP regret that stance?


Yes. The GOP just gave Democrats a gift: Democrats see the vote as a "golden opportunity to strengthen their advantage with women voters ahead of the election," says Sahil Kapur at Talking Points Memo.
Republicans did their best to cast the vote as a political stunt, so
they won't "be seen as rooting against the cause of equal pay." But
their unanimous opposition paints the party as a relic of the past,
still struggling with women's issues. Female voters will take notice.
"Republicans block Dems' equal pay for women bill"


No. Voters will see through this election-year ploy: "Three cheers for the Senate filibuster," says The Wall Street Journal in an editorial.
Democrats are playing partisan games with this utterly unnecessary
bill: After all, the U.S. already has plenty of laws prohibiting
gender-pay discrimination. Furthermore, the bill "ought to be called the
'Trial Lawyer Paycheck Act,' since it is a recipe for a class-action
boom" that will hurt business profits and reduce pay across the board.
This type of overreaching legislation "is precisely the reason that
voters elected more Republicans in 2010."
"The trial lawyer paycheck act"


Actually, more gender-discrimination suits are needed:
Republicans argue that the bill would lead to an "unnecessary and
soul-crushing number of lawsuits against employers," but the country
actually needs far more pay-gap suits, says Bryce Covert at Forbes.
Studies "have found no other way to explain at least some of the gap
than discrimination," and yet the number of gender-discrimination cases
are falling. Only last year, the Supreme Court "knocked down a suit
against Walmart, handing down a decision that makes it even harder to
bring these cases." In the "face of a gap that is only getting worse, it
would seem the number of cases could stand to get a boost."
"Republicans are wrong: We need more equal pay litigation, not less"

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  • safari 2012/06/08 01:22:25
    NO
    safari
    +11
    What was the first thing obama signed after taking office? Obama Signs Equal-Pay http://www.nytimes.com/2009/0...

    This is all political nonsense - we have no budget, are trillions of dollars in debt, with spiraling unemployment regardless of what the lame stream propaganda machine reports and are in deep crap all over this nation and they come up with this to make an issue about? PLEASE!

    We need to stop allowing them to distract us from REAL issues with bs like this.

    I am a woman - it isn't like it isn't important to me but if there are no jobs then what difference would it make even if laws weren't on the books already. If someone has a complaint they should start with a letter to Piglosi asking why it is she doesn't pay her female staff equally.

    No Equal Pay for Nancy Pelosi ducks questions on Senate pay disparity while paying women on her staff less than men
    http://freebeacon.com/no-equa...

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  • Jane 2012/06/09 10:45:11
    NO
    Jane
    +1
    They will just lie about it and blame it on the dems and fox will spread the lie.
  • Jasmine 2012/06/09 04:32:52
    YES
    Jasmine
    If they don't, I seriously worry for the women of this country as they will have apparently failed to see the reality of the situation.

    gop votes against equal pay
  • lil crazy 2012/06/08 21:44:10
    Undecided
    lil crazy
    I cannot predict the future regret of anyone so I will stick with the undecided vote.
    I do not know how the law reads or if there was anything else tacked on but if it was all on the up and up this is truly a shame.
    Also I do not by the argument that "equal pay legislation would only reward lawyers for filing discrimination suits." because if companies were doing the right thing there would be no need for any law suits.
  • Freeranger 2012/06/08 21:36:26
    Undecided
    Freeranger
    My advice, though poor, would be to [heaven forbid] know the content of the bill and why it was blocked. DO THY OWN RESEARCH!!
  • morris44 2012/06/08 19:41:34
    NO
    morris44
    +1
    No, they will just tell their block of voters what to think and those people will abide.
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2012/06/08 18:36:45
    NO
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +1
    The Democrates have the majority in the Senate so this bill could have passed anyway. That means some Dems voted against it also.
  • morris44 lady_c5... 2012/06/08 19:42:07
    morris44
    +2
    You don't understand the filabuster do you?
  • lady_c5... morris44 2012/06/09 19:08:19
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    It only takes 60 votes to stop a Filibuster and there are enough RINO's in the senate they could have stopped it.
  • morris44 lady_c5... 2012/06/13 19:59:44
    morris44
    There are currently 51 dems, 47 republicans, 2 independants.

    The vote was 52-47 in favor of the bill, all republicans voted against it and all democrats voted for it.

    You are incorrect when you stated "That means some Dems voted against it also."

    It is very disturbing that a majority doesn't count for enough in our process anymore and what is needed is a 60 vote count.

    This is not how our country should work.
  • lady_c5... morris44 2012/06/13 20:26:21
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    With Rinos like the 2 Senators Snow &, Collins from Maine, Scott (?) from NY McCain from AZ and a few others I am surprised they did not get their 60 votes. Don't blame the republicans for having to have 60 votes to break a fillibuster because if I remember this was a tactic used by Pelosi many times.
  • morris44 lady_c5... 2012/06/13 20:43:49
    morris44
    I wouldn't blame them.

    I think we should go back to the time when it wasn't so easy to filabuster.

    It's a joke.
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/06/08 18:11:51
    YES
    **StarzAbove**
    +2
    Yes, women don't forget, and the Republicans will pay for it at the polls come election day.
  • atomikmom **Starz... 2012/06/10 04:50:21
    atomikmom
    I guess that the chance that they are going to have to take, now won't it?
  • lady_c5... **Starz... 2012/06/13 20:29:17
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +2
    I received equal pay for equal work. When I was in the military I got paid by rank and time in service just like the guys. When I worked civil service I got paid by grade and years in service just like the guys. This was back in the 60's thru the 90's.
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/06/08 18:08:12
    NO
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +3
    It was sham legislation pure and simple.....it's tough to be conservative, you have to think. Liberalism is easy, you just have to feel good about doing something...even if it's not thought out....

    The problem with Dems is that this legislation was gravy for their biggest donors...trial lawyers....
  • morris44 Bob, th... 2012/06/08 19:42:49
    morris44
    +3
    What is sham-ful about making it easier for someone who isn't paid equally for the same work, to seek recourse?
  • Bob, th... morris44 2012/06/08 21:56:35
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    It's not true....that's the problem....you want to accept this baseless argument...the dems/progs/libs are using statistics and averages in order to interpret their beliefs and mindset....that's a bogus argument.....this legislation was set up to make an employer prove his innocence, that's just sick to think like that...there are laws on the books to handle discrimination....this legislation was just slick PR for the Dems to showcase their argument that there is some GOP War Against Women...it's not true, it's a diversion
  • morris44 Bob, th... 2012/06/13 20:08:16
    morris44
    When you say "it" what do you refer to?

    It is true that some women get paid less for doing the same job as men.
    I side with individuals over organizations. So if a company has to be more up front with what they pay when questioned to ensure people are paid correctly, I'm all for that.
  • Bob, th... morris44 2012/06/13 22:06:54
    Bob, the reasonable one
    I stand by my statement...nuff said
  • morris44 Bob, th... 2012/06/14 19:59:26
    morris44
    me too. people over organizations, every time.
  • Jane Bob, th... 2012/06/09 10:48:48
    Jane
    Who do you think you are, Rush Limbaugh? You certainly talk like the big fat liar.
  • Bob, th... Jane 2012/06/09 12:09:02
    Bob, the reasonable one
    and who do you think you are in spouting hysterical, nonsensical, ramblings with no knowledge but complete attitude? Are you that Krazy kool-aid drinker Debora Wasserman? btw, just in case you don't know she's a representative from Florida who forever spouts the latest talking points memos from Media matters...the minute she is off script she sounds like a complete idiot....
  • Pele Em... Bob, th... 2012/06/13 23:21:09
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    It's funny how many places really do have equal pay. I get the same pay for my job as a man who does it and has the same number of years of experience and same education. I get paid extra for extra duty--I usually teach the gifted/talented class which means extra work and extra pay. If I coached something, I'd get extra for that, which several of my colleagues, women included, do. Most places these days don't pay men and women different salaries for the same job. The thing is when women want to take off when their kids are little. Well, that's a choice. I worked when my kids were little--I'm not necessarily glad that I did, but it was something I chose. I've known households where the husband stayed home or where the wife worked a different shift so that one parent was always home with the kids. There are tons of options, but don't whine to me because you choose one that affects your career. (I just know they're going to take my liberal card away on this one)
  • Bob, th... Pele Em... 2012/06/14 00:00:43
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    Your wallet is lighter....they took your card immediately!!!! LOL
  • Pele Em... Bob, th... 2012/06/14 00:25:57
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    Why does it feel heavier? (hehehehe)
  • Iamfree 2012/06/08 18:05:17
    NO
    Iamfree
    +3
    I'm against any law that forces someone to prove their innocence. It should always be up to the person who believes they were harmed to prove the harm existed. Besides, there are already laws in place to protect people against gender discrimination.
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/09 04:39:50
    Jasmine
    Nothing in place to ensure equal pay for equal work, nothing.

    gender pay gap
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/09 05:54:55
    Iamfree
    The Equal Pay Act is part of the Fair Labor Standards Act. Google it.
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/09 15:01:38
    Jasmine
    I see - and that's why women aren't paid equally for equal work. Makes a lotta sense. Thanks!
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/10 04:25:26
    Iamfree
    They make less money for alot of reasons, a primary reason being because many women take time off to have children, thus lengthening the amount of time it takes for them to reach the same level of pay as men.
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/10 18:10:42
    Jasmine
    No, I don't think that's quite it. Nice try, though. Good paraphrasing of the GOP party line.

    So a woman has 2 or 3 children. She takes, at most, a year off with each one. That's a whole sum of 3 years out of a 30-40 year career. If that were truly the reason, women would be in the executive offices in greater number.

    No, there's something else at play here and I believe it's gender bias.
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/11 02:54:51
    Iamfree
    +1
    I just don't agree. I have never felt held back by my gender, and I've worked with many female execs.
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/12 02:08:31 (edited)
    Jasmine
    How long have you been in the work force? If it's less then 20 years, you haven't seen the glass ceiling yet, nor have those women with whom you work. And how many female CEOs, CFOs, and VPs have you worked with? Those are executive positions. Managers, even Directors, are not executives.

    Just because you haven't FELT held back by your gender doesn't mean you aren't.
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/12 21:43:37
    Iamfree
    +1
    I've been in the work force since I was 18; I'm 52 now. I have been a property manager, asset manager, and a VP of facilities. At the last firm I worked in, the CFO was a female, as was the VP of sales & marketing and the VP of personnel. The only higher position was the man who owned the company. His wife owned her own design firm. I am currently part of a 4-person office, and two of us are female.
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/17 15:16:09
    Jasmine
    Congratulations. I am 58 and have been in the workforce for 30+ years. I've worked for Hewlett Packard, Lockheed Martin, GE, PeopleSoft, and other 'smaller' companies. I have been a Purchasing Manager, a Quality/Process Improvement Manager, and a Scheduling Manager.

    There is a noticeable lack (note, I'm not saying missing) of women in executive positions. Women are not on equal footing when it comes to opportunities or pay. Has it gotten better since I joined the workforce back in the early 70s? Absolutely. Is it where it needs to be? Absolutely not.
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/18 22:06:23
    Iamfree
    I agree, yet I still believe much of the causation is pregnancy and child-rearing. As more men take on the task of staying home for the first few years of a child's life, I think we'll see the playing field level even further.
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/19 03:53:26
    Jasmine
    But pregnancy and child-rearing should NOT be the cause of holding women back. That is a throw back to the 1950s. I think it is gender bias, which may be tied to child-bearing. Don't know, but it isn't right. Do you recall when FMLA passed and how hard that was to do? Used to be companies could fire a woman for taking off work to have a child. Sometimes these companies have to be told what they should and shouldn't do when it comes to ensuring equity.
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/19 05:00:45
    Iamfree
    I want to make sure I understand you. Are you saying that if a woman takes 2-3 years off to raise her child for a few years and a man does not, they should still progress in their jobs at the same rate?
  • Jasmine Iamfree 2012/06/19 16:42:02
    Jasmine
    I'm saying if they do the same work, they should get paid the same.
  • Iamfree Jasmine 2012/06/25 05:00:21
    Iamfree
    Yes, I agree. But again, overall, women take more time off in the midst of moving up the career ladder, and so no one should be surprised that their pay scale is overall lower.

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