Will Romney try to bully President Obama?
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Willard does have bullying tendencies.
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**StarzAbove** 2012/05/13 17:46:11Undecided / Don't know
+13He might try but it won't do him any good. We have a strong and intelligent president who knows how to deal with bullies.
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And for anyone who was really paying attention. Mormons are not supposed to gamble It is ill gotten gain if they win. Further, "christians" are not supposed to gamle as well. So in a way, the real winner in that exchange was Perry a because he didn't stupe so low as to take him up on the bet, but those of us who know what he is supposed to believe know that Romney was TOTALLY in the wrong by even suggesting the bet in the first place.
That being said, Romney exposed his core self, greed at any cost, to get what he wants.
Really, the instant Romney put his hand out he commited to the offer.
Really, and I seriously mean "really", the bet was made in jest. Any adult who's wagered knows that. We do those kind of bets here in Texas all the time. Like, "I betcha a hundred dollars you can't jump that fence." No one expects a payout, as it's just an expression. Were you never a kid?
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I'm an orthodox, non-denominational Christian, not a fundamentalist or holy roller, which means I study from the original languages (Hebrew, Koine Greek, & Hebrew). ;-)
I'd be particually interested in your interepertation of the Greek in John 1:1 specificily the demuntive v superior forms of the greek words for god v God
You seem to have a very narrow pov on discussion since the true premise of being a real Christian is that Jesus was sent to the earth as a sacrifice as a perfect man to balance the sin of another perfect man Adam. Further, the Bible is very clear that the Supreme Being (God if you will) is showing to mankind that we are unable to rule ourselves and that the real war is over the right to his Supremacy and the Sactification of his Name.
99% of all supposed sects of Christendom do not even address these points.
So according to the Bible who is the actual "master builder" off the universe. Your answer to this one question will tell me if you know and understand the teachings of the Bible.
The Master Builder, the Creator of All is Jesus Christ.
When I have a discussion, I do not one up, ad Hominens nor disrespect. In addition to attempting to learn I teach and clarify also.
Maybe this will help:
ISA 44:24 "Thus says the Lord [Jesus Christ], your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, stretching out the heavens by Myself, and spreading out the earth all alone."
COL 1:16 "For by Him [Jesus Christ] all things were created, [both] in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created by Him and for Him."
So why is it that Jesus himself has denied he is God - that God is his Father and that he is in subjection to God?
So lets start with who Jesus really is. Jesus is the SON of the True God. This was confirmed when the voice of God was heard by John the Baptist when Jesus was baptized ‘This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.’” (Matthew 3:16, 17) God would not be talking to himself, simply for the benefit of John and the others around him. It isn't logical.
That they are two totally seperate personages "“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3)
Jesus was the Anointed One, or the Chosen One of God—the promised Leader. (Isaiah 55:4) Not God incarnate.
God(whose real name means "he who causes to become' became a Creator. Who was his first creation? The last book of the Bible identifies Jesus as “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Revelation 3:14) Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation.” That is so “because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible.” (Colossians 1:15, 16)
Jesus was the only one directly created by God himself. Therefore, he is called God’s “only-begotten So...
So why is it that Jesus himself has denied he is God - that God is his Father and that he is in subjection to God?
So lets start with who Jesus really is. Jesus is the SON of the True God. This was confirmed when the voice of God was heard by John the Baptist when Jesus was baptized ‘This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.’” (Matthew 3:16, 17) God would not be talking to himself, simply for the benefit of John and the others around him. It isn't logical.
That they are two totally seperate personages "“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3)
Jesus was the Anointed One, or the Chosen One of God—the promised Leader. (Isaiah 55:4) Not God incarnate.
God(whose real name means "he who causes to become' became a Creator. Who was his first creation? The last book of the Bible identifies Jesus as “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Revelation 3:14) Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation.” That is so “because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible.” (Colossians 1:15, 16)
Jesus was the only one directly created by God himself. Therefore, he is called God’s “only-begotten Son.” (John 3:16)
“The Word” was with God “in the beginning,” when “the heavens and the earth” were created. He was the one to whom God said: “Let us make man in our image.” (John 1:1; Genesis 1:1, 26) God's firstborn Son was there at his Father’s side, actively working with him. At Proverbs 8:22-31, he is represented as saying: “I came to be beside [the Creator] as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time.”
So as to get this discussion out of the way right off the bat John 1:1 "In [the] begining the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god." is the most correct modern day language translation. The exact word for word translation of the Greek is "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was toward(beside) The God, and god(like) was the Word." In other words Jesus was the first created spirit creature of the universe.
Enough school for the evening. Off to bed. 3:00am comes early and the cows don't like me to be late for their milking.
Isaiah 9:6, "For a child [Jesus Christ] will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
In JOH 10:30, Jesus said to the crowd, "I and the Father are one." He was referring to divine essence.
JOH 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor [Holy Spirit] to be with you forever."
JOH 20:28 "Thomas answered and said to Him [Jesus Christ], 'My Lord, My God.'"
Jesus Christ is the only visible member of the trinity, John 1:18; John 6:46; 1 Ti 3:16; 1 John 4:12.
You are absolutely wrong, as the phrase was not "a god" in John 1:1. You make a mistake that many who do not understand Koine Greek & the historical times. Try reading http://www.greeklatinaudio.co... for clarification.
John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word [Jesus Christ], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
John 1:14 And the Word [God, aka Jesus Christ] became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, ful...
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Isaiah 9:6, "For a child [Jesus Christ] will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
In JOH 10:30, Jesus said to the crowd, "I and the Father are one." He was referring to divine essence.
JOH 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor [Holy Spirit] to be with you forever."
JOH 20:28 "Thomas answered and said to Him [Jesus Christ], 'My Lord, My God.'"
Jesus Christ is the only visible member of the trinity, John 1:18; John 6:46; 1 Ti 3:16; 1 John 4:12.
You are absolutely wrong, as the phrase was not "a god" in John 1:1. You make a mistake that many who do not understand Koine Greek & the historical times. Try reading http://www.greeklatinaudio.co... for clarification.
John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word [Jesus Christ], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
John 1:14 And the Word [God, aka Jesus Christ] became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Christians believe in the Trinity, meaning ONE GOD [the same essence for each], 3 persons; coequal, co-eternal, and co-infinite persons. The Trinity, or the fact that God is one God with three distinct personalities is taught in Isa 48:16, Mat 28:19, 2 Cor 13:14, 1Pet 1:12. Therefore, to deny the existence of the three members of the Trinity is to deny the credibility of scripture itself.
And yes, it is difficult for most to comprehend, but there are many things on each of our list of "things to ask God when I get to Heaven" for all Christians. Jesus IS God, just as the Holy Spirit & God the Father are God. They all have the same essence: Sovereignty, Justice, Righteousness, Love, Eternal Life, Omniscience, Omnipresence, Omnipotence, Immutability, and Veracity.
The best way I can explain the Trinity is by comparing it with H2O. H2O can be in the form of a liquid, gas, or solid, but any form it takes, it is still H2O in its composition. You could say that H20 as a gas or liquid could not possibly be a solid, but we all know that although it looks different, & is used for different purposes, it still has all of the chemical makeup of a liquid or a solid.
God is one, Gal 3:20; Jam 2:19. The Son (Joh 1:1, 14:9; Col 2:9) and the Spirit (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Co 3:16) are also fully God, yet they are distinct from the Father and from each other. The unified equality and yet distinction is seen in the triactic references to three persons, as noted in 2CO 13:14; Eph 4:4-6; 1PE 1:2.