Will a budget deal be struck before the end of the year?

L.A. Times 2012/12/27 18:55:00
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If the nation goes over the "fiscal cliff," some Americans will wake up Tuesday with financial headaches to rival a New Year's Eve hangover.

More than 2 million long-term jobless would receive their final unemployment benefit check within days. Millions of taxpayers would be unable to file their returns early, resulting in delayed refunds. Taxes would rise immediately on workers across the board. And although some of those increases may eventually be reversed, the first paychecks of the year would be smaller until any legislative fixes kick in.

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  • Spy Master 2012/12/28 19:43:12
    Spy Master
    who really gives a SH**
    it's gonna be a wad of SH** that nobody will read; and when it's to F'n late; you have to live with the POS; ya know; like that POS OCare...yeah Obama and Care in the same sentence; like that's an oxymoron for sure..

    No; I am pissed about these worthless ;over-paid whores; who steal everything that's not glued down; and then ruin everything that's not theirs to ruin..

    F*** the LA Times and the USA of BKO...we're all f'n toast anyway....

    And the Fiscal Cliff? Up your A$$...

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  • Derbyhat 2013/01/20 19:15:41
    By deal, I mean something substantial. Congress is no longer substantial, but an obstruction to legitimate progress and recovery!
  • macbeth 2013/01/02 01:05:43
    Looks as if the tea party crowd in the House are going to sink the ship. Again.
  • DUGGINS 2013/01/02 00:12:08
  • Resp 2013/01/01 23:27:31
    Not with Tommy Turtle.

  • DUGGINS Resp 2013/01/02 00:15:40
    Hey Resp! great analogy it fits perfect, that's Tommy's twin brother.
  • daerius 2013/01/01 21:34:37
    Who cares? This is political theatre. The Republican and Democratic Parties have outlived their usefulness. But they both know, that as long as they keep their followers rabidly attacking each other, then those followers will fail to notice the fox in the hen house! It is time to FIRE every single representative with an R or D behind their name! Our government can be streamlined, taxes do not need to be raised, and a balanced budget can be created- but not as long as we continue to allow ourselves to be programmed to HATE each other! Not as long as we continue to IGNORE the shenanigans of these two parties!
  • DUGGINS daerius 2013/01/01 23:54:51
    daerius; Great post you said it all in just 7 sentences.
  • Marshal Artz 2013/01/01 20:31:46
    Marshal Artz
    The Senate passed something, and now it has to pass the house. The party of NO controls the house. Not a chance of them voting yes, on anything.
  • Todd The Libertarian 2013/01/01 18:24:09
    Todd The Libertarian
    What ever the senate does to help our 401 k retirement,the tea party will kill.They will attempt to destroy the world market by march.The fedayeen tea wackos Canter n Ryan are terrorist.Their goal is to crash the market.So no one will vote for a black or latino again for president.
  • squire 2013/01/01 15:17:57
    No. Its tough dealing with these teabagging undercoverjohn birchers
  • Pat squire 2013/01/01 17:29:13
    It's no problem.

    Obama won, in case you haven't noticed.

    Tax hikes, NO spending cuts. Spending INCREASES!

    We'll just have to keep borrowing.....oops....we're already at the debt limit.

    ...(never mind)....
  • squire Pat 2013/01/02 14:04:57
    as always as it has been with every other president before; what will be done will be done.
  • Pat squire 2013/01/02 19:04:52
    Don't you believe that the world market will ever set a REAL borrowing limit?

    You don't think anyone (China, etc.) will EVER want to get paid back?

    Good luck with that.
  • squire Pat 2013/01/03 14:31:57
    not even thinlking about it
  • Pat squire 2013/01/04 19:00:08
    So it's not a problem, then.

    Good thinking.
  • andy15554 2013/01/01 14:32:52
    The Republicans must stop this bad deal, 1 dollar in spending cuts for every 43 dollars in tax increases is unacceptable. VOTE IT DOWN
  • DS in Oak Ridge NC 2013/01/01 12:13:54
    DS in Oak Ridge NC
  • g_ubeenzuked 2013/01/01 09:09:14
    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...
    I'm expecting this to make sense to the right.
  • Pat g_ubeen... 2013/01/01 17:31:15
    Here's some sense you might understand......

    Obama wins.

    Tax hikes, NO spending cuts. Spending INCREASES!

    Oh, well. We'll just have to keep borrowing to fund the government.

    OOPS! We're already at the debt limit!!!

    never mind....
  • HistoryBuff782 2013/01/01 09:07:32
    And it's absolutely pathetic..
  • Eric 2013/01/01 04:46:33
    This is a fake, media driven, event. Congress can always pass some bill and make it retroactive to Jan 1 so there is no problem.
    What I don't understand is why Democrats, who opposed the Bush Tax cuts, NOW insist on extending most of them. They were perfectly willing to sell the middle class down the river in 2001 and 2003 but NOW they want to help "the middle class" as long as it includes all those $100K plus public employees.
  • Hawkeye Eric 2013/01/01 11:56:44
    "This is a fake, media driven, event."

    THAT is absolutely correct on ALL points..

    NEVER let a crises go to waste even if you have to CREATE one yourself..

    This WHOLE " over the cliff " thing was conjured up to make BAD LAW more palatable..

    We've been hearing for TWELVE YEARS about how the Bush Tax Cuts caused this economic crises.. NOW the SAME people are saying that the tax cuts are necessary to SAVE the economy because the DEMOCRATS want them....

    MEANWHILE.. Obama signs PAY RAISES for Congress and Federal Employees into LAW while the rest of America is poised to go over this so called cliff..
  • Eric Hawkeye 2013/01/01 16:15:21
    Great point. Weird isn't it? Those demonized Bush tax cuts that all Democrats voted against 12 years ago are now so admired that Democrats want to continue them. Were they too stupid to understand that they helped the middle class 12 years ago?

    It would be nice if Democrats had a value system but they just flutter in the wind. Never know what they will support, until it is too late.
  • Hawkeye Eric 2013/01/01 16:32:20
    There is but ONE way to be able to determine whether Democrats support something or not..

    IF it's a Republican thing,, ,, It's the APOCALYPSE

    IF it's a Democrat thing..EVEN if it's the EXACT same thing,, EVEN if they STOLE the Idea from a Republican,, it's the SALVATION of ALL of mankind but only AFTER the Democrats pick it up....

    Take the Patriot Act.. Bush NEVER did ANY of the things that the left said he did.. NEVER.. And yet the Left HOWLED in rabid rage over it for BOTH of his terms....

    Obama has done EVERYTHING that they blammed Bush for and NOBODY on the left says a word..
  • wulfsong 2013/01/01 04:40:18
    A deal was struck but what a load of crap. These jackasses take us to the edge of a "cliff" and when they make an eleventh hour deal they expect to be seen as heroes. They should all be fired...every last one of them. VOTE OUT THE INCUMBENTS!!!! ALL OF THEM!!! It will take some time but within six years we should have new representation in Washington.
  • Eric wulfsong 2013/01/01 16:11:37
    Our media is so damn stupid it is irritating. The news headlines now is that a deal was struck and the cliff is averted. Then we read that the Senate agreed to something. The problem is that "silly" thing called the Constitution which states rather clearly"

    "Section. 7.

    All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

    Who cares what the Senate does. The House is the important branch here. Doesn't our esteemed media know this?

    Have you read anything about the House agreeing to anything? This is a bogus agreement presented for propoganda purposes.
  • wulfsong Eric 2013/01/02 02:00:40
    Agree. I noticed that after I investigated a little bit more. The house was supposed to meet today to vote in it but boehner said they and the public should have a chance to read and digest the proposal before a vote was made. Haven't heard the outcome from the house yet but they were "assuming" it would pass the house because the senate vote was very bipartisan with only 8 voting against it.
  • Live Free Or Die 2013/01/01 04:27:13
    Live Free Or Die
    I just heard that it did. Miracles never cease, yay!
  • TimothyBrianFoley 2013/01/01 04:21:49
    clock struck midnight maybe something in 2013
  • roxie 2013/01/01 04:20:43 (edited)
    Done Deal!

    Thank You President Obama For Protecting Working Americans From The Imperial Class..... GOP! obama protects middle class
    Happy New Year!
  • **StarzAbove** 2013/01/01 03:45:52
    Yes, I think so. But they better hurry.
  • Buoyant Leadraft 2013/01/01 03:31:39
    Buoyant Leadraft
    Obama is gonna sell us libs out... just watch
  • roxie Buoyant... 2013/01/01 04:25:04
    As If!
  • Buoyant... roxie 2013/01/01 05:19:42
    Buoyant Leadraft
    You think he will pull through and keep his 25o+ tax pledge?
  • roxie Buoyant... 2013/01/01 05:24:42
    No That Was Just A Starting Point..... It Will Be Over $500.000
  • Buoyant... roxie 2013/01/01 05:27:30
    Buoyant Leadraft
    see he sold out!
  • flrdsgns 2013/01/01 03:00:49
    No, The obstructionist republicans will continue to sabotage the country.
  • truthzx95 flrdsgns 2013/01/01 03:10:15
    Obstructionists? They're trying to SAVE America from the communist take over. If you can't see that, you're either a communist or stupid.
  • flrdsgns truthzx95 2013/01/01 03:35:10
    ha, you've been watching Fox again haven't you? You people really do live in total ignorance.
  • truthzx95 flrdsgns 2013/01/01 04:28:22
    And you have been watching msnbc, CNN, abc, CBS, NBC, headline news, the comedy channel and listening to NPR. What's your point?
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