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Why would the Polar regions be the first areas to indicate global warming?

mikestice April 21, 2009 06:13:33

North Pole ice may completely melt away this summer

For the first time in modern history, the North Pole may be iceless this summer. Scientists say it's an even bet that sea ice in the region will completely disappear in the next few months, perhaps as soon as August.

Ice at the North Pole quickly and significantly melted away last year, and that may be causing further melting this summer. Scientists say the disappearance of long-term and thicker ice formed over the years has disappeared. Now, most of the ice that's left is seasonal ice, which melts away much more quickly during warm weather.

"This year there is a lot of young ice. There's always some, but this year there's a lot," Andy Mahoney, a researcher at the University of Colorado's National Snow and Ice Data Center, told CTV.ca.

Satellite observations indicate the ice remaining at the poles is melting faster than last year's rate, which was already a record year for Arctic ice loss. Scientists say whether or not the ice melts completely, this year's northern melt is yet another example of the impact that global warming is having on the planet's environment.

"There were some people who were saying last year was a rogue year. If the same thing happens again a lot more people are going to be persuaded about the consequences of global warming," Mahoney said.

"A lot of people think it's a very small change in temperature. This shows that the change in sea ice is quite a dramatic consequence."

As the ice melts, interest in the region is intensifying. Canada and other nations that border the Arctic -- including Russia and the U.S. -- are scrambling to lay claims to vast parts of the area, which may someday allow new resource development and shipping lanes.

"If the North Pole melts, then you don't have to worry about the Northwest Passage. It will still be significant, but going on top of the globe would be politically easier," Mahoney said.

A UN panel is supposed to decide on control of the Arctic by 2020. Last year, Canada's Conservative government announced plans to acquire up to eight Arctic patrol ships and to build an army base in Resolute Bay and a naval station in Nanisivik.

Under the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, Arctic countries have 10 years after ratification to prove their claims under the largely uncharted polar ice pack. All countries with claims to the Arctic have ratified the treaty, with the exception of the United States.
Satellite observations indicate the ice remaining at the poles is melting faster than last year's rate...

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  • +2 raves Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum April 21, 2009 14:14:17 (edited)
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum

    Satellite observations indicate the ice remaining at the poles is melting faster than last year's rate...

    I thought it has to do with ocean currents and/or albedo (a feedback) which makes polar temperatures respond more aggressively to the effects of global warming.
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    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum April 21, 2009 14:14:17 (edited)
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum

    Satellite observations indicate the ice remaining at the poles is melting faster than last year's rate...

    I thought it has to do with ocean currents and/or albedo (a feedback) which makes polar temperatures respond more aggressively to the effects of global warming.
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    Warren ... Warren ... April 21, 2009 14:18:12
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    http://archive.greenpeace.org...

    The Sensitive Poles
    In its 1990 science report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) noted that global warming is expected to warm the poles faster than the tropics [2]. This is partly because warming causes loss of sea-ice, which reduces albedo (reflection) and also allows more heat transfer from the ocean surface, accelerating the warming (a 'positive feedback'). The warming at the poles is also larger because it is confined near the surface, and because heat is released from the extra moisture transported from the tropics. In 1993, British scientists suggested that the polar regions would be among the first to respond to global warming and that the warming-induced changes might accelerate the warming further [3].
    The IPCC also noted that the capacity of the Southern Ocean to absorb large amounts of heat may counter this accelerated warming, resulting in a smaller warming trend nearer the global average [4]. Recent research however, comparing ocean model results with the observed ocean circulation patterns around Antarctica, suggests that the heat-absorbing ability of the Southern Ocean may have been overestimated [5]. This suggests that the extremes of warming projected for the Arctic region may also be felt in the south....

    http://archive.greenpeace.org...

    The Sensitive Poles
    In its 1990 science report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) noted that global warming is expected to warm the poles faster than the tropics [2]. This is partly because warming causes loss of sea-ice, which reduces albedo (reflection) and also allows more heat transfer from the ocean surface, accelerating the warming (a 'positive feedback'). The warming at the poles is also larger because it is confined near the surface, and because heat is released from the extra moisture transported from the tropics. In 1993, British scientists suggested that the polar regions would be among the first to respond to global warming and that the warming-induced changes might accelerate the warming further [3].
    The IPCC also noted that the capacity of the Southern Ocean to absorb large amounts of heat may counter this accelerated warming, resulting in a smaller warming trend nearer the global average [4]. Recent research however, comparing ocean model results with the observed ocean circulation patterns around Antarctica, suggests that the heat-absorbing ability of the Southern Ocean may have been overestimated [5]. This suggests that the extremes of warming projected for the Arctic region may also be felt in the south. Furthermore, any heat that is carried to depth away from the sea surface may reduce surface temperature rise at the expense of increased basal melting of the West Antarctic ice sheet [6], with serious implications for sea level rise.

    Loss of sea-ice may also cause changes in the circulation of the Southern Ocean, leading to global warming positive feedbacks. When sea-ice forms in the austral Autumn and Winter, salt is rejected from the freezing waters, increasing the salinity and therefore density of the surface ocean. This cold and saline water then mixes downwards, carrying carbon dioxide and heat into the deep ocean. The loss of sea-ice in a global warming world may reduce this deep mixing by limiting salt rejection, thus producing a positive feedback, increasing the rate of carbon dioxide build-up in the atmosphere and the rate at which the surface ocean warms [7].
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    mikestice Warren ... April 21, 2009 20:30:50
    mikestice
    Well, Greenpeace should have a pretty good idea of what is going down with the polar Ice. To me it is frightening. I don't know what the answer is, my energy consumption footprint is 78 and I I am always trying to figure out new things to keep it at that or lower it. But very few want to lose their creature comforts.
    frightening answer energy consumption footprint 78 figure lose creature comforts
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    Warren ... mikestice April 21, 2009 20:34:13
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    I was trying to find a more politically neutral reference, but the explanation is directly from the IPCC, not Greenpeace. Good that you are doing what you can!
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    mikestice Warren ... April 21, 2009 20:42:04
    mikestice
    I wish every one could try... however. It is the creature comfort thing that gets in the way..
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    mikestice Warren ... April 21, 2009 20:31:16
    mikestice
    Thank you...
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    mikestice April 21, 2009 06:27:15
    mikestice

    Undecided

    I am completely befuddled on this issue. I have given it mu h thought but there has to be deeper thinkers than myself out there to reasonably put my ducks in a row as it were!

    undecided completely befuddled issue mu deeper thinkers ducks row
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥

    None of the above

    What if it is solar energy that is funneled by the magnetosphere to the poles that is melting the ice and not anything man is doing?
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    mikestice Dave Sa... April 21, 2009 06:25:00
    mikestice
    It is a feasible option... but there are other rational thoughts out there for this thinking, I believe. Thanks for the clue. Who knows, maybe enough clues and we might know what it is all about.
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    Warren ... Dave Sa... April 21, 2009 14:11:56
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    Charged particles from the solar wind do funnel down the magnetic field lines toward the north pole. But I've not seen anyone correlate changes in solar wind to polar ice melting. The energy of a good aurora borealis is too small to even change the local weather.
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    Dave Sa... Warren ... April 21, 2009 14:43:32
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    So is human activity. :)
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    mikestice Dave Sa... April 21, 2009 20:42:43
    mikestice
    Right you are sir...
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