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jt 2012/07/28 22:55:03

The White House incorrectly claimed that a bust of Winston Churchill was not removed from the White House when President Obama moved in, insisting with emphatic certainty that it had simply been moved to the residence but then retracting the assertion.


In a “Fact Check” post added to the White House website Friday, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer scornfully dismissed as “100% false” the “rumor” that Obama had removed the Churchill bust that had presided over the George W. Bush Oval Office and shipped it back to the British.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/07/28/wh-incorrectly-cl...

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  • ticia.barnes 2012/07/28 23:09:32
    ticia.barnes
    +7
    Interesting, I read the whole article and it seems that even when he was proven wrong he was completely unable to admit it.

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  • dallasjoe 2012/08/05 19:47:52
    dallasjoe
    Yeah it was moved to the Treaty room Obama showed the Bust to British PM during is trip to the White House SO take a good gulp of that STFU
  • ScoutLdr 2012/08/04 16:07:11
    ScoutLdr
    "Churchill has less happy connotations for Mr Obama than those American politicians who celebrate his wartime leadership. It was during Churchill's second premiership that Britain suppressed Kenya's Mau Mau rebellion. Among Kenyans allegedly tortured by the colonial regime included one Hussein Onyango Obama, the President's grandfather.
    The rejection of the bust has left some British officials nervously reading the runes to see how much influence the UK can wield with the new regime in Washington." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
  • Jim 2012/07/31 16:44:30
    Jim
    The only ones that Obama loves are the Muslims.
  • Singerar 2012/07/31 00:33:22
    Singerar
    So what is really going on here? Jake Tapper at ABC News believes he has solved the mystery:

    Like a plot twist in a sitcom, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHILL BUSTS!!!!!

    The one in the White House residence was a gift to the White House from the British Embassy during the Johnson administration.

    The other one was loaned to President George W. Bush by British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

    Says James Barbour, press secretary and head of communications for the British Embassy, “The bust of Sir Winston Churchill, by Sir Jacob Epstein, was lent to the George W. Bush administration from the U.K.’s government art collection, for the duration of the presidency. When that administration came to an end so did the loan; the bust now resides in the British Ambassador’s Residence in Washington D.C. The White House collection has its own Epstein bust of Churchill, which President Obama showed to Prime Minister Cameron when he visited the White House in March.”

    Indeed. CBS News asked White House curator William Allman about the disposition of the bust in January 2010:

    Some Britons took offense when Winston Churchill’s bust was replaced with King’s. But the decision to return the Churchill bust to the British – it had been presented by former Prime Minister Tony Blair to Bush on loan – had been made before Obama even arrived.

    “It was already scheduled to go back,” Allman said.
  • bpf 2012/07/30 17:45:27 (edited)
    bpf
    If it was a bust of his communist hero then Obama probably would be sleeping with it
  • wtw 2012/07/29 03:08:35
    wtw
    +4
    SO? Oh now I think I will vote for Obama--no way!
  • ☆ QueenAline 2012/07/29 02:57:37
  • Kat 2012/07/29 02:55:49
    Kat
    +4
    They lie even when they don't have to, it's what they do.
  • George Romney 2012/07/29 02:29:13
    George Romney
    +1
    The President should have leveraged the Bust with the British and traded it for Winston Churchill's parrot (which is still alive!). That would be far cooler to have lying around the Oval Office.
  • Crypt_H... George ... 2012/07/29 04:18:14
    Crypt_Heart
    +2
    Preferably flapping and squawking rather than 'lying around' eh? =9
  • flaca BN-0 2012/07/29 01:40:43
    flaca BN-0
    +3
    so the original bust has never been sent to England (the one they were working on) but the one Blair lent Bush to use in its stead has been? What's wrong with that? Isn't there a photo right there of Cameron and Obama looking at the original bust (that was being worked on previously)?
  • Singerar flaca BN-0 2012/07/31 00:36:02
    Singerar
    Yes - you are correct. There were two busts. The first one was given to the WH, and the second was on loan from Tony Blair.
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/07/29 01:37:04
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +5
    This administration will lie about anything and everything...
  • NoBama Man 2012/07/29 00:33:32
    NoBama Man
    +5
    It sure seems the British didn't think Obama was just 'moving it' or that the bust by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth 'hundreds of thousands of pounds' was 'being worked on' when the British Embassy in Washington confirmed that 'it sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald,... the ambassador plans to keep it in Washington or send it back to London.'
    "being worked on"... really ???

    here's another interesting article on this...check it out...
    http://allrightiethen.blogspo...

    Churchill bust
  • No nonsense NanC...don't BS... 2012/07/29 00:09:04
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    +6
    They lie, as usual. The bust in the 0val office was removed and sent to British embassy....... Krauthammer was correct in what he wrote in his column which was
    what precipitated the W/H denial..................
  • leighanne 2012/07/28 23:40:46
    leighanne
    +4
    Did you all read the entire article? It states that the bust that has always been in the White House was "being worked on." So Tony Blair lent one to Bush, then at the end of his presidency the curator's office came and took everything that had been lent specifically to Bush, as is customary. So the original bust, that has always been in the White House, is still in the White House. I don't see what the issue is here. Do we want the British to send us their bust so that we have two of them?
  • flaca BN-0 leighanne 2012/07/29 01:36:07
    flaca BN-0
    +2
    no people haven't read the entire article.
  • ScoutLdr leighanne 2012/08/04 16:05:56
    ScoutLdr
    By Tim Shipman in Washington 5:20PM GMT 14 Feb 2009
    "A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.
    The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure.
    But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
  • ray 2012/07/28 23:30:26
    ray
    +5
    Flash Back .... the year was 2009.... the headlines read.
    Obama Returns Churchill Bust To England: British Press Sees Snub
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

    Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...

    Kind of stupid to lie when the whole world can check the facts.
    Winston will be back at the White House in January .

    Romney promises to bring Churchill bust back to White House
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-5...
  • Charles E ray 2012/07/29 00:16:43
    Charles E
    +4
    If Huf n Puf says it's true - And it hurts progressives - there is no chance it is false!
  • ☆ Queen... ray 2012/07/29 02:59:35
    ☆ QueenAline
    +2
    Liberals live in denial
  • Singerar ray 2012/07/31 00:33:01
    Singerar
    There were TWO busts in the White House. First was GIVEN to America during the Johnson Admin. Second one was LOANED to Bush for his duration of his presidency. When Obama took office, he sent it back PER the agreement with Tony Blair.
  • Singerar 2012/07/28 23:11:33
    Singerar
    +1
    Like I give a sh$t!!! It's obviously in the White House for a reason.
  • ray Singerar 2012/07/28 23:29:59
    ray
    +3
    It is not in the White House Obama sent it back to the British . It was one of his his first insults to Americas allies before he went on his world wide apology and Ass kissing tour.
  • Singerar ray 2012/07/31 00:27:09
    Singerar
    Here's your real answer...Notice it says the bust was LOANED to Bush for the duration of his presidency. Now...get your facts straight.

    So what is really going on here? Jake Tapper at ABC News believes he has solved the mystery:

    Like a plot twist in a sitcom, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHILL BUSTS!!!!!

    The one in the White House residence was a gift to the White House from the British Embassy during the Johnson administration.

    The other one was loaned to President George W. Bush by British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

    Says James Barbour, press secretary and head of communications for the British Embassy, “The bust of Sir Winston Churchill, by Sir Jacob Epstein, was lent to the George W. Bush administration from the U.K.’s government art collection, for the duration of the presidency. When that administration came to an end so did the loan; the bust now resides in the British Ambassador’s Residence in Washington D.C. The White House collection has its own Epstein bust of Churchill, which President Obama showed to Prime Minister Cameron when he visited the White House in March.”

    Indeed. CBS News asked White House curator William Allman about the disposition of the bust in January 2010:

    Some Britons took offense when Winston Churchill’s bust was replaced with King’s. But the decision...

    Here's your real answer...Notice it says the bust was LOANED to Bush for the duration of his presidency. Now...get your facts straight.

    So what is really going on here? Jake Tapper at ABC News believes he has solved the mystery:

    Like a plot twist in a sitcom, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHILL BUSTS!!!!!

    The one in the White House residence was a gift to the White House from the British Embassy during the Johnson administration.

    The other one was loaned to President George W. Bush by British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

    Says James Barbour, press secretary and head of communications for the British Embassy, “The bust of Sir Winston Churchill, by Sir Jacob Epstein, was lent to the George W. Bush administration from the U.K.’s government art collection, for the duration of the presidency. When that administration came to an end so did the loan; the bust now resides in the British Ambassador’s Residence in Washington D.C. The White House collection has its own Epstein bust of Churchill, which President Obama showed to Prime Minister Cameron when he visited the White House in March.”

    Indeed. CBS News asked White House curator William Allman about the disposition of the bust in January 2010:

    Some Britons took offense when Winston Churchill’s bust was replaced with King’s. But the decision to return the Churchill bust to the British – it had been presented by former Prime Minister Tony Blair to Bush on loan – had been made before Obama even arrived.

    “It was already scheduled to go back,” Allman said.
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  • ray Singerar 2012/07/31 03:03:35
    ray
    Revisionist history , the links above about the British being snubbed predates Whitehouse curator's story to the time to the event .
    Not going to call him a liar , but , his story is not the same as the facts.
  • Singerar ray 2012/07/31 17:03:50
    Singerar
    He didn't insult anyone. He sent the second Bust back as per the loan agreement from Tony Blair.
  • ticia.barnes 2012/07/28 23:09:32
    ticia.barnes
    +7
    Interesting, I read the whole article and it seems that even when he was proven wrong he was completely unable to admit it.
  • Tee Quake 2012/07/28 23:02:08
    Tee Quake
    +1
    Just return it; it's historical and belongs there. Where would the world be today if Churchill had never lived?
  • Squatch 2012/07/28 23:00:13
    Squatch
    +4
    Can we trust anything that comes out of the White House nowadays.
  • Kat Squatch 2012/07/29 02:57:38
    Kat
    +1
    Squat, Squatch
  • Squatch Kat 2012/07/29 13:07:10 (edited)
    Squatch
    Well your Mom is a Wookie

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