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Why the Republicans are so upset with Operation Fast and Furious, after all Fast and Furious was conceived, planned, and operated by President George W. Bush Administration?

bob 2012/06/21 15:12:26
In 2006, during the presidency of George W. Bush, the Justice Department launched the first of a series of misguided “gunrunning” schemes that eventually led to the death of federal Agent Brian Terry
Rather than look to ways to prevent such a tragedy from happening again, however, House Oversight Chair Darrell Issa’s (R-CA) spent his tenure as a committee chair trying unsuccessfully to embarrass Attorney General Eric Holder
Issa’s uncovered no evidence showing Holder bears any blame for the botched operations begun under George W. Bush, even though the Justice Department turned over thousands of pages of documents concerning the operations.
Republicans in Congress continued the Bush-era gunrunning operations because they wanted to “us this crisis to somehow take away or limit people’s Second Amendment rights”
But the Bush Administration were actually part of a secret Obama plot to release guns to Mexican drug lords, so that those guns could then be used to kill federal agents, which would then cause a national uprising in support of gun control.
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  • Waldorf 2012/06/21 15:16:23
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    Waldorf
    +11
    Holder withdrew the claim that the Bush people were involved in F&F;.

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  • Radlad schjaz 2012/06/22 22:58:51
    Radlad
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    I kmew that! Just couldn't remember the name of it.............
  • Radlad bob 2012/06/22 22:57:53
    Radlad
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    No "bob" it's the leftist that blame everyone else. Sorry I meant liberal democrats that blame everyone else. It is true that a similar program was used under bush. However, only a handful of firearms went across the boarder. Plus the weapons had homing devices in them so they COULD be tracked. Also local law enforcement and the Mexican government were involved and in on it. When the bad guys discovered the trackers and took them out of the weapons the operation was shutdown. That would be 2007. Fast and furious under obummer's department of no justice started up in 2009. As to if barry knew anything about it I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if he did and I would not doubt it.........
  • schjaz Radlad 2012/06/24 16:20:48
    schjaz
    +2
    They aren't even Liberals. I thought I was a Liberal ... these are progressive socialist fascists.
  • Radlad schjaz 2012/07/20 11:24:34
    Radlad
    +1
    Most of my life I believe I was a conservative trapped in a liberal's body. Then my eyes were opened......
  • schjaz Radlad 2012/07/21 15:40:19
    schjaz
    so you are in the right body or no?
  • Radlad schjaz 2012/07/22 21:12:39
    Radlad
    +1
    I'm not sure what you're askin'. For most of my life my thoughts on politics was : democrats good republicans bad. I've learned democrat are not good they are really bad and republicans ain't much better. But it seems that there are many of our fellow sodaheads that still cling to that thought of dims good repubs bad
  • schjaz Radlad 2012/07/23 16:35:46
    schjaz
    ok...gotcha. yeah, they think the dems and repubs are still the same as they were years ago. just not true anymore. the dems have become the good old boys party of fat cats now. they are truly dinosaurs and have no new blood. the repubs only chance are the young guns. if they don't pull this country out of this nosedive......we are all in trouble......but there is noone in the dem party that will do it. rich elitist jerks.
  • teigan bob 2012/06/26 20:47:05
    teigan
    Bush's program ended a full two years prior to Obama's "Fast and Furious". You're embarrassing yourself. Try checking your facts instead of pulling them out of your butt.
  • Justagirl 2012/06/22 08:17:34
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    Justagirl
    +1
    The Obama administration bears sole responsibility, even IF he ONLY continued the Bush doctrine, after 3 years, you own it...how's that change working...simple minded fools...*scoff*
  • Mel 2012/06/22 06:13:58
    In 2006, during the presidency of George W. Bush, the Justice Department laun...
    Mel
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    Bush should be on the hot seat. not Holder.
  • Radlad Mel 2012/06/22 23:00:06
    Radlad
    For what? Oh yeah.................... everything is his fault sorry I forgot....
  • Mel Radlad 2012/06/23 01:59:25
    Mel
    I didn't type that. Geezuz stay on topic. Bush started the program. Holder ended it in 2011.
  • teigan Mel 2012/06/26 20:54:43
    teigan
    +1
    WRONG! Bush's program was called "Operation Wide Receiver", it started in 2006 and ENDED in 2007. It ended a full two years prior to Obama taking office. Fast and Furious is not a continuation of a program that no longer existed. This is 100% owned by Obama and Holder. Holder had no choice in ending HIS program after the lame stream media was forced to report that his program caused the death of an American Border Patrol agent.
  • Mel teigan 2012/06/26 22:13:31
    Mel
    The name was changed. I just called my reps office for details.
  • teigan Mel 2012/06/26 22:33:14
    teigan
    +1
    Fast and Furious was started in 2009, Bush was not President. Bush's program ended in 2007, that's two years prior. Who is your Rep? I'd like to call them myself to see why they are so misinformed. My Rep knows the difference.
  • Mel teigan 2012/07/20 22:42:41
    Mel
    My rep happened to be republican *LOL*
  • schjaz Mel 2012/07/21 15:51:45
    schjaz
    yeah, who is your representative? i don't want to waste my time here with a troll and/or liar. are you one of those? cause right now it surely sounds like it.
  • schjaz Mel 2012/07/21 15:50:31
    schjaz
    Sorry, your facts are in error. That program, under Bush was ended long before Obama got into office.
  • Radlad Mel 2012/07/20 11:29:30
    Radlad
    You're right that dubya should be on the hot seat. But not for this. His program ended when the bad guys got hip to it. That was before this loss holder that should never have been confirmed became ag......
  • schjaz Mel 2012/07/21 15:49:27
    schjaz
    Not true. Yu are referring to Operation Wide Receiver.
    It has been widely reported (erroneously) that the program was continued by the Obama administration under a different name...that being Fast and Furious. But the fact is that Operation Wide Receiver was done with cooperation of the Mexican government. It was not a big program and all the guns involved were retrieved and the program was completed and ended before Bush left office.
    I thought that F&F was just an extention as well because of the media but come to find out, no.
    F&F is a program initiated and implemented solely by THIS administration and they did not coordinate with the Mexican government which is one of the reasons why Obama allowed the President of Mexico to come here and speak (remember when he said AZ had no right to arrest illegals) to Congress while televised. His speech was vetted and approved by this administration. Obama wanted to appease Mexico. And it worked.
  • DuncanONeil 2012/06/22 00:54:08
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  • bob DuncanO... 2012/06/22 16:09:14
    bob
    no your a fool
  • DuncanO... bob 2012/06/23 00:49:33 (edited)
    DuncanONeil
    Because I can see the folly of Fast & Furious. And that it had nothing to do with interdicting of hurting the cartels?

    Or you could show how the answer choices are not lies.
  • teigan bob 2012/06/26 20:56:16
    teigan
    +1
    The only fools here are the ones that believe your lies. Bush's program ended in 2007, looks like you're the fool.
  • Willy 2012/06/22 00:45:18
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    Willy
    +1
    Even the liberal media said it started 3 years ago. That was after obumer took office. We all know it was a ploy to use against the 2nd amendment, but they got caught.
  • kiwimac Willy 2012/06/22 09:30:28
    kiwimac
    About time the 2nd amendment was retired and idiots have their guns taken off them.
  • Willy kiwimac 2012/06/22 14:00:02
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    +1
    Only an ignorant fool that wants a dictatorship would think that. Our forefathers fought and won this free country by using their own guns. They put the 2nd amendment in there so we would have the same tools they did in case we ever needed them.
  • kiwimac Willy 2012/06/23 01:18:30
    kiwimac
    Other countries have neither the 2nd amendment NOR dictatorships. You'd think that it would be otherwise from your comment but, sadly for you, it is not.
  • Willy kiwimac 2012/06/23 01:49:00
    Willy
    If the United States is disarmed, the whole world will end up in a dictatorship.
  • kiwimac Willy 2012/06/23 09:45:16
    kiwimac
    Hahahahahahahaha! Oh wait, you really think that?
  • teigan Willy 2012/06/26 20:57:34
    teigan
    The ignorant fool is from New Zealand. LOL
  • schjaz kiwimac 2012/06/22 17:08:06
    schjaz
    It will never, never happen. Never.
  • kiwimac schjaz 2012/06/23 01:19:05
    kiwimac
    Which is why the US has the highest rate of accidental handgun related deaths in the world.
  • schjaz kiwimac 2012/06/24 16:26:17
    schjaz
    +1
    And if we decided to make a law that noone could purchase any gun without a safety course, we would still have the highest rate? Possibly because most of the 'accidental' deaths are caused by illegal guns. 4 times more ppl drown every year ... should we outlaw swimming pools? More ppl than that die of falls...should we outlaw steps? And even more ppl than THAT die of Choking. We need to outlaw eating.
  • Radlad schjaz 2012/07/22 21:09:42
    Radlad
    You're making a logical, rational, intelligent argument. To someone who's had his mind made up for him. How dare you confuse him with facts......
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/06/21 22:25:34
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    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +4
    Republicans love Fast and Furious because it gives them a chance to embrace conspiracy theories and play politics in an election year rather than get busy solving this countries problems as the taxpayers have hired and paid them to do.
  • Willy Warren ... 2012/06/22 14:02:55
    Willy
    Fast and Furious is not a conspiracy theory. People who think so just have their head buried in the sand.
  • Warren ... Willy 2012/06/22 14:05:46
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    Fast and Furious was part of a stupid idea hatched during the Bush administration. The accusations being made by the fruit loops and whackadoodles against Holder and Obama are loaded with tinfoil hat conspiracies. If you can't see this, possibly you are one of the whackadoodles.
  • schjaz Warren ... 2012/06/22 17:10:19
    schjaz
    You must need more info...the Bush administration ended that program PRIOR to this administration taking office. I'll keep the tinfoil hat because I think it looks cool but you are sounding like the whackadoodle.
  • Willy Warren ... 2012/06/22 20:29:08
    Willy
    You are one of the gullible clueless brainwashed sheeple that Khrushchev was talking about. Obama started this gun smuggling to the Mexican drug cartels 3 years ago, even the lame stream liberal media says so. He started it to use against the 2nd amendment, but he got caught.

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