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Why do you think Romney wants to destroy Obamacare which was based on Romneycare in his own state?

Mark 2012/10/23 20:34:00
Does this mean that Romney believes his own system and creation is totally wrong?
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  • RogerCoppock 2012/10/23 20:58:16
    RogerCoppock
    +4
    Romney is now backed by billionaires who actually believe that their right to their money exceeds the rights of other people to healthcare. They believe that it is acceptable to deny a poor person healthcare, even if that healthcare is necessary for their life.

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  • TikkiPurdy 2012/10/25 14:51:50
    TikkiPurdy
    I'm sensing jealousy, but I could be wrong. I doubt it, though.
  • Mark TikkiPurdy 2012/10/25 15:32:39
    Mark
    Should listen to your doubts
  • TikkiPurdy Mark 2012/10/26 12:23:41
    TikkiPurdy
    Yeah, okay.
  • Q 2012/10/24 14:29:48
    Q
    Not really, he's just pandering to the Tea Party zealots because he desperately wants to be president.
    romneycare your kid is ugly political cartoon
  • Queen B 2012/10/24 02:37:56
    Queen B
    +2
    Because Obama implemented it and Romney's handlers tell him what to do.
    romney doesn t want obamacare cartoons
  • Anonymouse ~superdoge~ 2012/10/23 22:09:29
    Anonymouse ~superdoge~
    Because Obamacare is a regulatory mess. That's what has caused prices to rise, insurance companies have so much regulation they have to spend huge amounts on admin work. Romneycare was a streamlined system that provided good coverage with low regulation.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/10/23 22:02:57
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    I second Kevracer
  • kevracer 2012/10/23 21:51:36
    kevracer
    +2
    because Obama did it.
  • Lady Wh... kevracer 2012/10/23 22:02:15
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    exactly
  • fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust" 2012/10/23 21:23:31
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    RomneyCare was Statewide, not nationwide.
    What works for for Massachusetts may not work as well in Mississippi. Each state is unique and better equipped to determine what it needs.

    One size DOES NOT fit all.

    That's what Romney keeps saying. All you need do is listen and you have your answer rather than post silly questions like this.
  • kevracer fuzzy K... 2012/10/23 21:53:07
    kevracer
    +2
    tell me what's so radically different between the health care needs of folks in Mississippi versus folks in Massachusetts.
  • fuzzy K... kevracer 2012/10/24 12:43:09
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    What comes to mind immediately is that Mississippi is far more rural and impoverished than Massachusetts leading to different needs in terms of diseases and delivery of service.
    Come on. Think before you post.
  • kevracer fuzzy K... 2012/10/24 15:20:50
    kevracer
    C'mon yourself- a rural program would be less costly thatn an urban one
  • fuzzy K... kevracer 2012/10/24 15:24:43
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    So then you agree that a 'one size fits all' approach is not the best way?
  • Mark fuzzy K... 2012/10/25 07:32:45
    Mark
    "RomneyCare was Statewide, not nationwide. "
    "One size DOES NOT fit all"

    Mississippi doesnt have cities and towns? Maaachusetts doesnt have rural areas?
    Surely if one size does not fit all, then there should not be state-wide healthcare. Perhaps split it into two, some for the rural areas a different one for cities. Those people who live in the suburbs can choose either way. Perhaps TB and prostate cancer will know which areas they can infect.
    Great system.
  • fuzzy K... Mark 2012/10/25 14:15:42
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    MIssissippi is far more impoverished and has far more rural areas than Massachusetts.
    While diseases don't discriminate they are facilitated or thwarted by environment and diet.
    More important is DELIVERY of healthcare. What good is having healthcare insurance if the closest practitioner is 50 miles away? ObamaCare, while insuring millions has no plan to add doctors or deliver care to areas that are underserved. What good is forcing someone to buy health insurance when there's nobody to deliver the health care?
  • Huki68 2012/10/23 21:08:30
    Huki68
    Romney what can I say... BS
  • RogerCoppock 2012/10/23 20:58:16
    RogerCoppock
    +4
    Romney is now backed by billionaires who actually believe that their right to their money exceeds the rights of other people to healthcare. They believe that it is acceptable to deny a poor person healthcare, even if that healthcare is necessary for their life.
  • Lady Wh... RogerCo... 2012/10/23 22:02:42
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    WELL SAID
  • flaca BN-0 2012/10/23 20:42:45
    flaca BN-0
    +3
    Romney has his RW base to answer to. Instead of claiming that Romneycare was successful (with mandate) he has backtracked to appease his RW base. That's the problem with Romney. He doesn't know what to stand up for.
  • JCD aka... flaca BN-0 2012/10/23 21:05:37
    JCD aka "biz"
    +2
    Actually, Flip Romney likes Romneycare, and Flop Romney hates Obamacare.
  • Mrkando JCD aka... 2012/10/23 22:08:18
    Mrkando
    +1
    You are right even though they are essentially the same plan even right down to the mandate. Sadly that is not the only thing he has flip-flopped on.
  • Superman 2012/10/23 20:40:53
    Superman
    +2
    He believes that Masscare was tailored for the best interests of his state and that its an issue that should be handled state by state. He's certainly indicated that he would have no issue with other individual states crafting cimilar pieces of legislation.

    But he feels that trying to apply that plan nationally is both a mistake in taking a program made to fit a state and stretching it to fit 50 and that its not in the purview of the federal government to do it - that it tramples on the rights of states to handle their own issues.
  • flaca BN-0 Superman 2012/10/23 20:43:42
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    so why is he on video then saying he hoped "it would go national?"
  • Superman flaca BN-0 2012/10/23 20:47:53
    Superman
    +1
    Because he had hoped that other states would see the concept and adopt their own.
  • Sport_G... Superman 2012/10/23 20:47:56
    Sport_Geoff
    +1
    Exactly.....Just like with medicaid and education Romney knows that the states are better qualified to administrate these programs. Obama believes in government control which has proven to be an epic failure on everything they take over.
  • Superman Sport_G... 2012/10/23 20:54:47
    Superman
    +1
    I had this discussion with my wife today during the morning commute. She'll be out of town during the election and filled out her absentee last night. While she did we discussed the various up coming state ballot options - particularly on taxes.

    While we discussed I pointed out my philosophy that taxes should be more specific and focused at the state level - and I'd argue higher too. In out regions we should be deciding matters of healthcare and education - what systems need to be in place to suit us and how to pay for it.

    I think adding another layer in is generally a bad idea. So we're all taxed nationally and part of that money goes to a means tested educaiton bill, for example. Well basically you're setting up a system where you're taking money away from the state level that could go to edcuational decisions made by state voters and theres no guarantee that the state will end up seeing the same return of tax dollars or the focus that people in te state would make.

    And we'd all like to think the positive of means tested and results oriented incentive bills but we all know that some of that money will be porkbarrelled to states that don't need it either for an excess of the intended purpose or for a completely unintended purpose. Again, that takes potential targeted ta...
    I had this discussion with my wife today during the morning commute. She'll be out of town during the election and filled out her absentee last night. While she did we discussed the various up coming state ballot options - particularly on taxes.

    While we discussed I pointed out my philosophy that taxes should be more specific and focused at the state level - and I'd argue higher too. In out regions we should be deciding matters of healthcare and education - what systems need to be in place to suit us and how to pay for it.

    I think adding another layer in is generally a bad idea. So we're all taxed nationally and part of that money goes to a means tested educaiton bill, for example. Well basically you're setting up a system where you're taking money away from the state level that could go to edcuational decisions made by state voters and theres no guarantee that the state will end up seeing the same return of tax dollars or the focus that people in te state would make.

    And we'd all like to think the positive of means tested and results oriented incentive bills but we all know that some of that money will be porkbarrelled to states that don't need it either for an excess of the intended purpose or for a completely unintended purpose. Again, that takes potential targeted tax dollars away from the actual states that should be deciding what to do with it. And thats not even a partisan problem, its a bipartisan problem as Congressionals on both sides seek to do well for their states.
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  • Rustie 2012/10/23 20:40:07
    Rustie
    +1
    I can only surmise, as he has repeatedly stated, that he feels that system was created for and worked for ONE state and was never intended to be a nationalized plan.
  • flaca BN-0 Rustie 2012/10/23 20:44:29
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    nope. He is on youtube saying he hoped it would "go national" It's there on youtube. It's a fact.
  • Rustie flaca BN-0 2012/10/23 20:47:53
    Rustie
    Why do you persist in responding to me when I haven't spoken to you AND you did not post the poll?
  • flaca BN-0 Rustie 2012/10/23 21:08:03
    flaca BN-0
    are you against freedom of speech now?
  • The Elitist Libtard SodaJerk 2012/10/23 20:39:29
    The Elitist Libtard SodaJerk
    +2
    Because it's a talking point that worked wonders in 2010. A couple of flaws in his strategy.
    1. He has no alternative to Obamacare, that doesn't sound like Obamacare.
    2. If the Tea Party isn't satisfied with him in 2016, they will rise up against him.

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