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Why do we teach young women that a fetus isn't a baby?

Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/04/15 01:08:06
The term "fetus" means "little one", not blob of cells. If we didn't teach young women that their unborn child wasn't a baby perhaps they'd have second thoughts about aborting it. When you have to lie about something it's usually because it's unethical and immoral. I think abortion is one of those cases.
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  • jean 2012/04/15 02:19:34
    jean
    +43
    Strange - even as a young woman I knew that I was having a BABY! And I was right...... african american newborn baby boy

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  • owen Muskoka 2012/04/15 12:52:14
    owen
    +2
    Is that why the vast majority of humanity accepts the existance of souls?
  • antonio... owen 2012/04/15 15:57:24
    antonio.beardall
    The same way vast majority of kids accept Santa Claus, its called faith. Does not mean it really exists, or does not exist.
  • jean antonio... 2012/04/18 05:38:23 (edited)
    jean
    +1
    A fetus is a baby or OFFSPRING INVITRO FETUS
  • Treasure ♥ijm♥ 2012/04/15 02:37:38
    Treasure ♥ijm♥
    +17
    Good post Gracie! I don't know the answer to your question but I find it very sad what young girls especially are told.....I loved my babies as soon as I knew they were growing inside me.... I don't know how anyone could think they are just merely a fetus. To me, they are a baby from conception....with a beating heart that deserves to live.

    baby fetus
  • jean Treasur... 2012/04/15 05:14:29
    jean
    +10
    I loved listening to their hearts beating invitro. I heard my first son's heart beat when I was about 12 weeks pregnant. I was so enthralled! MY BABY- now 6'6". Still my baby.
  • Treasur... jean 2012/04/15 05:18:33
    Treasure ♥ijm♥
    +10
    Yes, hearing that heartbeat....and it's called just a fetus? No way... they are real life human beings....called "babies" to me.
  • owen Treasur... 2012/04/15 12:53:42
    owen
    +5
    Gods most wonderful creation.
  • Treasur... owen 2012/04/15 14:46:33
    Treasure ♥ijm♥
    +3
    Yes, they are!! ;)
  • txtumlin Treasur... 2012/05/03 04:26:37
    txtumlin
    +1
    Ditto Treasure, for shure!
  • txtumlin jean 2012/05/03 04:26:00
    txtumlin
    +1
    And will always be your baby, until you graduate to your place in His Kingdom. :)
  • txtumlin Treasur... 2012/05/03 04:24:37
    txtumlin
    +2
    Beautifully said Treasure!
  • Treasur... txtumlin 2012/05/03 13:04:12
    Treasure ♥ijm♥
    +1
    Thank you....to me that is how I see it... and believe it to be.
  • txtumlin Treasur... 2012/05/03 22:47:29
    txtumlin
    +1
    Ditto Miss Treasure, no other explanation!
  • jean 2012/04/15 02:19:34
    jean
    +43
    Strange - even as a young woman I knew that I was having a BABY! And I was right...... african american newborn baby boy
  • Gracie ... jean 2012/04/15 02:21:18
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +22
    Who could kill that? How beautiful!
  • jean Gracie ... 2012/04/15 02:23:42
    jean
    +21
    Unfortunately there are many who would........
  • owen jean 2012/04/15 04:34:41
    owen
    +8
    I hate to mention that some doctors have murdered hundreds,surely God will reject these beasts.
  • Muskoka owen 2012/04/15 08:36:34
    Muskoka
    YOu god has never been pro-life. The bible has been very clear about your god commanding the slaughter of millions of innocent children and the unborn.
  • keeper Muskoka 2012/04/15 16:55:19
    keeper
    +6
    NO... that is muhhamad and the islam religion.
  • GLaDOS keeper 2012/04/15 23:43:46
    GLaDOS
    Numbers 31:7-18
    Judges 21:10-24
    Those are from the bible. >_>
  • rightside GLaDOS 2012/04/16 02:19:08
    rightside
    +3
    You must learn to know God, before you can understand the bible.
  • GLaDOS rightside 2012/04/16 10:51:14
    GLaDOS
    A convenient excuse?
  • rightside GLaDOS 2012/04/16 16:14:39
    rightside
    +1
    No, its not. It would be like picking up a book and only reading a chapter here and there and not the whole thing.
    That would be called taking things out of context.
    Jesus said He knew you in your mother's womb. Is nine months such a long time out of the whole grand scheme of life to save a baby?
  • GLaDOS rightside 2012/04/16 20:43:45
    GLaDOS
    But once the new covenant started, it stated that the unbaptized would not see heaven.
  • rightside GLaDOS 2012/04/16 20:57:15
    rightside
    +1
    Show me the scripture that says that. I have read the bible thru and thru and have never read that anywhere.
    It is not by works that save us. Nothing we can do can save us. It is receiving Christ as our Savior and admitting our sins and asking forgiveness that save us.
    No amount of water could clean away our sins.
    Baptism is our public announcement to the world that we have accepted Christ.
  • GLaDOS rightside 2012/04/16 21:30:38
    GLaDOS
    Given that God's general belief seemed to suggest that children under a month didn't really count, and that the loss of a child was worth only a few coins, I wouldn't be surprised. And that was my mistake, it wasn't the unbaptized, it was the non-believers, which babies really can't be until they can form a thought.
  • rightside GLaDOS 2012/04/16 21:38:14
    rightside
    +1
    There is an age of accountability. Children need to be able to discern right and wrong. Babies that die are taken straight into the Lord's arms.
  • txtumlin rightside 2012/05/03 04:54:56
    txtumlin
    +1
    RIGHT AGAIN!
  • txtumlin rightside 2012/05/03 04:54:10
    txtumlin
    +1
    You are right, it is GRACE that saves our sinful derrieres, not works.
  • rightside txtumlin 2012/05/03 11:20:56
    rightside
    +1
    Grace, what a wonderful word. Especially when it come out of God's mouth.
  • txtumlin rightside 2012/05/03 12:29:56
  • txtumlin GLaDOS 2012/05/03 04:52:41
    txtumlin
    +1
    Not true. You do not have to be baptized to be saved from eternal damnation.

    How about a Book, Chapter and Verse to PROVE your claim?
  • GLaDOS txtumlin 2012/05/03 05:38:23
    GLaDOS
    I believe the baptism thing has been covered. Thank you.
  • txtumlin GLaDOS 2012/05/03 06:45:45
    txtumlin
    OK
  • jean GLaDOS 2012/04/16 04:54:43 (edited)
    jean
    +3
    These are from OT history -judgment!
  • GLaDOS jean 2012/04/16 10:55:48 (edited)
    GLaDOS
    Yes, they are. OT history that is supported in the NT, particularly by Paul. 1 Corinthians 10:5-8 There's also Revelations 21:8. Unborn babies, since they haven't been baptized, can't really be counted as the faithful. So, they'll likely burn with their mothers, as will those children of non-believing women who aren't as well.
  • jean GLaDOS 2012/04/16 13:31:40
    jean
    +3
    NONSENSE! Was the thief on the cross who is now in Paradise with Christ baptized?

    You are certainly in darkness!
  • GLaDOS jean 2012/04/16 13:47:38
    GLaDOS
    Can you prove that he wasn't baptized? Additionally, since he was saved before Christ died, he was subject to the old covenant, so may have been saved by the old covenant, if he wasn't baptized.

    After Christ's death it states that the unbaptized do not go to Heaven.
  • jean GLaDOS 2012/04/16 14:42:35
    jean
    +3
    Prove he was unbaptized? Why should I? Jesus never questioned him about it why should you! It doesn't get any more ridiculous than this! Doesn't matter which Covenant he died under or no Covenant at all. JESUS forgave him his sins! ENUFF SAID - HE is in Heaven with our Lord and Savior.

    This is from a Theologian lest you think I made it up.....

    Scripture, however, is abundantly clear. Baptism is NOT required for salvation.
    Christian baptism has its roots in a much older tradition. Converts to Judaism were baptized in a ritual bath called a MIKVAH. This immersion was a public statement that you wanted to join a community of faith, that you believed as they did, and that you intended to live that way. There are other uses for MIKVAH, such as in preparation for beginning ministry as a Jewish priest, cleansing tools and utensils for use in the Temple, and so on.
    When Jesus was baptized, He was beginning His ministry. When those who came after Him were baptized, they were making a public statement of their belief in Jesus as the Messiah, and of their intention to join the Christian community. There's no part of the ritual that leads to salvation.
    Of course, Christians were commanded to be baptized in Scripture...but not until they were Christians. While there are certainly a few ve...






    Prove he was unbaptized? Why should I? Jesus never questioned him about it why should you! It doesn't get any more ridiculous than this! Doesn't matter which Covenant he died under or no Covenant at all. JESUS forgave him his sins! ENUFF SAID - HE is in Heaven with our Lord and Savior.

    This is from a Theologian lest you think I made it up.....

    Scripture, however, is abundantly clear. Baptism is NOT required for salvation.
    Christian baptism has its roots in a much older tradition. Converts to Judaism were baptized in a ritual bath called a MIKVAH. This immersion was a public statement that you wanted to join a community of faith, that you believed as they did, and that you intended to live that way. There are other uses for MIKVAH, such as in preparation for beginning ministry as a Jewish priest, cleansing tools and utensils for use in the Temple, and so on.
    When Jesus was baptized, He was beginning His ministry. When those who came after Him were baptized, they were making a public statement of their belief in Jesus as the Messiah, and of their intention to join the Christian community. There's no part of the ritual that leads to salvation.
    Of course, Christians were commanded to be baptized in Scripture...but not until they were Christians. While there are certainly a few verses that appear to teach that baptism cleanses a person from sin, closer inspection shows that they don't. We have examples of people being saved before baptism, and that should clear things up. Certainly the thief on the cross comes to mind, as do the words of Romans 6:3-4...
    Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
    Baptism symbolizes Jesus' death and resurrection, and our decision to partake in the benefits of His sacrifice. Paul pointed to the fact that salvation doesn't require baptism when he wrote to the Corinthians:
    For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel - not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
    Paul definitely would not say that if salvation were necessary to go to heaven. Possibly the most damaging evidence against the belief that baptism is a requirement for salvation is found in Acts 10:
    While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God.
    Then Peter said, "Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have."
    The Gentiles (non-Jews) believed the gospel and were saved...and then they were baptized. Again, Scripture is clear on the matter. If you have specific questions about particular verses, let me know.
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  • GLaDOS jean 2012/04/16 20:54:00
    GLaDOS
    Theologians are like philosophers.

    That said, Jesus had the right to directly bless someone. Additionally, given that the thief proclaimed Jesus as his lord, it suggests that he may well have been baptized. Only Jesus could know, or not know, at this point. You can't prove he wasn't, and I can't prove he was.

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