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Why do skinheads or white supremacists put jewish people in a category of race? i thought jewish was a religion....

. 2007/07/16 00:23:25
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  • Hank 2007/07/16 01:08:20
    not sure....
    Hank
    +3
    I have posed a similar question to my best friend, his wife is Jewish. According to what I have been told, the answer is quite involved. Depending on who you talk to, even in the Jewish community, the answer can be yes, it is both, a race and religion. Other Jewish people will say no, it is a religiouis community and not a race. Many Jewish people are born of Jewish mothers, that's how they "become" Jewish. I am paraphrasing an Orthodox Rabbi here, While the full answer is exhaustive - the short answer is: The Jews are both a race and religion.
    The Jewish religion is quite clear -- see your nearest Biible.
    While a Christian is defined as one who follows the teachings of Jesus, a Jew is defined as one born from a Jewish mother or converted according to Jewish Law. a person remains a member of the Jewish nation for the rest of their life regardless of what religious practices that person chooses to follow/reject. The "Jewish Nation" has its own culture, foods, land, and even diseases. Diseases like Tay-Sachs, are found among Central and Eastern European (Ashkenazi) Jews.
    I know I just "cleared" that up like muddy water.

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  • n@N33 2009/03/20 16:15:14
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    n@N33
    fuk tha white ass krackers that are racist im latina half white half mexican
    i luv all races
  • uncle ruckus 2008/06/30 21:28:02
    i am one and i'll explain....(skin head or supremicist)
    uncle ruckus
    they are one thing jews
    but they are also a religion and a race
    its just the same name they just dont have a diffrent name for there religion
  • Shalom 2008/06/21 19:55:42
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Shalom
    Being Jewish is not a race

    Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.

    Being Jewish is not a nationality

    Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.

    Being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement

    Being Jewish means you are a part of a religious movement. However, the great majority of Jews become a part of the religious movement through birth and not due to their beliefs or actions. In this way, being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement.

    A Jewish identity is automatically bestowed on the babies of Jewish mothers (according to Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) and of Jewish mothers or fathers (according to Reform Judaism). This Jewish identity stays with them throughout life even if they don't actively practice Judaism.

    If a person is not born Jewish, he/she can undergo the process of conversion to become a Jew. A person who was not born Jewish or has not gone through the conversion process is not considered a Jew even if he or she believes in Judaism and observes Jewish practices. The conversion process is very meaningful because it is the only way for a non-Jew to become Jewish.
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  • stevie d 2007/10/24 19:29:34
    not sure....
    stevie d
    +1
    i was raised in a very rascist enviroment and even went as far as following the white supremicist "values" for a great many years i even have a swastika tattoo. and from what i have gathered they appear to dislike jews for no other reasons than thats what hitler was about. they consider them a race becouse most jews have dark curly hair and larger noses. but most of todays neo nazi movement is more towards darker skinned races and not so much about the jews although there is alot of negative jewish comments i came to realization about 5 yrs ago that it doesnt matter what race or religion we r we r all people just the same and that just cuz ur not a blonde haired blue eyed light skinned nationality ur no less of a person and hopefully they all will eventually grow to learn these same values
  • . stevie d 2007/10/24 21:52:46
    .
    nicely put, thx!!!
  • Min Carter 2007/10/22 16:16:13
    not sure....
    Min Carter
    +1
    Judaism is a religion not a race. The Nazi Party decreed Judaism a racial group because a person can convert i.e. change their religion, but you can't change your DNA/race by simply converting. Obviously, the Neo-Nazi /hate groups continue to adhere to Hitler's racist views. Sad, but true...
  • leftysergeant 2007/10/22 10:07:06
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    leftysergeant
    +1
    To justify hating them, the Nazis must place as much distance between Jews and themselves as possible. Hitler went so far far as to say "The Jews are a race, but not a human race."

    The fact that skinheads are usually mentally deficient just makes it that much easier to implant the notion in their tiny little minds.
  • . leftyse... 2007/10/22 13:36:21
    .
    thx for your input lefty
  • Patrick 2007/08/18 00:16:10
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Patrick
    They are misguided people who think they are Christians, but are not even close in my mind. They are a power group only and most are antisocial personalitys.
  • Arleen 2007/08/17 02:39:35
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Arleen
    Jewish is both a religion and a race
  • <--That guy 2007/08/15 15:33:22 (edited)
    not sure....
    <--That guy
    Since it's a religion that was founded in the Middle East, I suppose they relate it to that region and assume that Jews are a race of their own, which isn't really the case. Christianity and Islam were also founded in the Middle East, and neither of those religions is specific to a race.
    (Edit) And yes, these skinhead white-supremesists are definitely ignorant.
  • Brewskin 2007/08/09 02:06:32
    i am one and i'll explain....(skin head or supremicist)
    Brewskin
    +1
    First off: if you can't proofread your drivel before posting it, you shouldn't be posting. Second: if you proofread that poll question and still posted it, you shouldn't be writing. Now...YES! I am one and by 'am one' I mean a Jewish Skinhead. There never has and never will be a racist Skinhead, you know, since 'Skinhead' came from Jamaica! That's historical fact, not FOX news blathering about 'neo-nazi skinheads' (I will never capitalize the word nazi, FYI) Skinhead and nazi are polar opposites. OK, we've got that cleared up, now for the tribes: Judaism is a religon, sure, but Jews are CULTURAL members. It goes far beyond a religon and deeper than race.
    For a history lesson in either Jewish or Skinhead culture post a comment with the request.
  • . Brewskin 2007/08/10 19:28:26
    .
    +1
    Angry little thing aren't you....so i hit the wrong button on the keyboard when i typed....ooops!
  • Brewskin . 2007/08/13 21:25:03
    Brewskin
    Not angry bonnie, livid. It's the insolence that gets me. When a person is conscious of the fact that they haven't researched a topic that has a history of misinformation and then has the temerity to speak in the capacity of an informed individual it's frighteningly insolent. Oh, by the way when a person is writing about themself in the first person, the ' i ' is capitalized. I'll give you an example: I have the grammatical wherewithal of a retarded kindergartener. Thanks for the reply bonnie
  • . Brewskin 2007/08/14 22:02:23
    .
    +1
    I wasn't writing as a an "informed individual" Brewskin, that's why I ASKED the question, to become an informed individual. I don't pretend to know all the facts, I was trying to understand. Unfortunately, your anger didn't help me understand anything except you try to be intimidating by insulting me. But that's ok Brewskin, thanks anyway. :)
    Bonnie
  • Darling... . 2007/12/31 09:54:32 (edited)
    Darling of Ville
    +1
    BonBon, feel free to ask me questions regarding gangs. I work with the police dept. and have learned quite a bit about various gangs, although, of course, I don't know everything. I'm willing to share some info or explain a few things if you wish, whether about particular gangs or gangs in general. As for this poll, many of them just follow the line of their "leaders" or those who recruited them. Much of it is unfounded hatred, but, historically, it does goes back to other situations. This is basically the case with most gangs, although in varying degrees.
    However, there are people who describe themselves as skinheads, but are not associated with the gang and/or their beliefs.
    For some quick info on the racist skinheads, go to this site:
    http://www.prejudiceinstitute...
    Hope this helps!
  • . Darling... 2007/12/31 15:47:23
    .
    thank you so much!!! And i agree, there are a few who look the look, but dont actually believe the same
  • Darling... . 2007/12/31 18:46:27
    Darling of Ville
    You're welcome! :-)
  • Arbutus Punch 2007/07/16 21:12:10
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Arbutus Punch
    +2
    Who gives a rat's ass what skinheads think?
  • jackrorabbit 2007/07/16 13:50:12
    not sure....
    jackrorabbit
    Jewish is a religion that was formed in the Middle East, so I think that is where they get mixed up.
  • Min Carter jackror... 2007/10/22 16:25:42
    Min Carter
    Huh? (By the way, Judaism when used as a noun, Jewish = adjective. )
  • jackror... Min Carter 2007/10/24 19:05:42
    jackrorabbit
    +1
    To quote Steve Martin... "Well Excuuuuuusseeee Me", for being human and making an error when typing early in the morning. I certainly hope that the rest of the word isn't as critical of your errors.
  • Min Carter jackror... 2007/10/26 14:31:06
    Min Carter
    Grow up, Jack.
  • jackror... Min Carter 2007/10/31 13:44:12
    jackrorabbit
    I wasn't the one being critical of another's mistakes, so right back at you!
  • Min Carter jackror... 2007/10/31 22:07:31
    Min Carter
    Jack Jack Jack - I really do apologize if I offended you. I never thought that constructive criticism was a negative. Actually, I want to hope that I am secure enough to accept and appreciate when someone cares enough to comment and/or correct my errors. I sure have room to grow! Guess you have already arrived... must be nice being perfect...so good luck to you... I'll try to avoid correcting your errors in the future. I'm starting to realize that I'm not always dealing with Rhodes Scholars. Be that as it may, I certainly didn't mean any offense. Hopefully, someday you might realize, "Knowledge is power"!
  • jackror... Min Carter 2007/11/02 14:12:53
    jackrorabbit
    Did I not admit to making the error when you pointed it out? Just because you didn't like the tone(which was meant as a joke since I quoted Steve Martin-comedian), so I am sorry that you lack a sense of humor.
    "Be that as it may, I certainly didn't mean any offense. Hopefully, someday you might realize, "Knowledge is power"!"
  • Kari 2007/07/16 12:58:28
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Kari
    They hate people different from themselves. If you are not white and a God fearing Christian, they don't like you. They are who could embarrass me that I'm of Anglo heritage.
  • Exile 2007/07/16 06:51:19
    not sure....
    Exile
    +1
    I'm not a "insert generic ignorant insult here" but It's how they were raised. It's how they look at things. They are not smarter nor stupider then the people here on average. They were simply taught by their parents or someone close to them that the Jewish people were to blame.

    And it's because it is a little bit of both as described below.
    Why do you all hate on the skin heads :)
    I believe you see them the way they see Jews.

    You are condemning yourselves by the way you talk about the skinheads. You say they have low intelligence because of their hatred .. Im gonna have to assume you have the same :)

    BTW - Not a skinhead here lol but i know almost everyone here has said they've been "jipped" (an insult refering to gypsies), said something was "gay", (obvious insult to gays), or even made an off color comment about jews them selves... Dont be so quick to condemn if you too are to blame. And if you see me doing it stop me
  • . Exile 2007/07/16 14:20:47
    .
    not hating on skinheads exile....just trying to understand them more...but you do have a point....
  • Rbosco 2007/07/16 05:45:59
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Rbosco
    there lost
  • Rome is burning 2007/07/16 03:01:40
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    Rome is burning
    +1
    Because they're ignorant hillbilly whitetrash redneck asswipes who blame everyone else for their own stupidity.
  • EagleEye 2007/07/16 01:52:21
    they're ignorant(obviously)
    EagleEye
    +3
    Simple: Most people DRINK AT THE FOUNTAIN OF KNOWLEDGE...OTHERS, LIKE SKINHEADS...MERELY GARGLE
  • chilton~T~ EagleEye 2007/07/16 01:56:46
    chilton~T~
    +1
    Oh that's good! I have to remember it...LOL!
  • . EagleEye 2007/07/16 02:16:41
    .
    +1
    LOL!!!!! great sense of humor!
  • Hank EagleEye 2007/07/16 02:33:18
    Hank
    +2
    I don't think they even made it to the fountain ;-)
  • Chef 2007/07/16 01:46:19
    not sure....
    Chef
    +3
    But here is my theory:

    Skinheads are exposed to a lot of direct sunlight due to the absence of hair. As we all can imagine that dries out the liquids within the brain and makes the brain shrink. This causes severe brain damage that shows in their actions.
    Has anyone heard a skinhead make a smart remark ....ever. Thats what I thought.
    Brain damage.
  • chilton~T~ Chef 2007/07/16 01:57:43
    chilton~T~
    +2
    Also funny! You guys are good....
  • Ihr Has... Chef 2007/07/16 03:00:30
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    +1
    HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have no hair what are you trying to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Chef Ihr Has... 2007/07/17 23:45:30

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