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Why do people live longer in nations with socialized medicine?
David Maverick, The Godless Liberal July 04, 2009 13:02:52
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Let' see . . .(1) Standing in all of those lines waiting for health care builds bone density, abs and core muscle groups. (2) Knowing that you have health insurance, no matter how bad, relieves anxiety and worry -a major killer. (3) Unable to pick your own "Doctor-feel-good" you end up with a doctor who actually tells you what is wrong with you. (4) The heavy handed, jack-booted, totalitarian approach actually makes you brush your teeth and get regular check-ups from the moment you come into the world. (5) Since your care is rationed you choose to get sick less often. But there is a down side to all of this. You spend your entire life with deep feelings of inferiority because your rich American cousins have big expensive health care programs and even bigger expensive funerals. Oh, the pain and humilitation of living with socialized medicine!View thread
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All advanced countries except the U... No, let me rephrase. All *industrialized* countries except the United States have socialized medicine. I do not know of too many third world countries that do, but there are some, of course. Now, consider also that the US has been engaged in one war after another continuously since the end of World War 2, unlike the other industrialized countries. That, too, might play a part.
"My health care prejudices crumbled on the way to a medical school class. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute.
Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care.
Dr. Jacques Chaoulli faces the media in Montreal in June 2005, after he got Canada's Supreme Court to strike down a Quebec law banning private insurance for services covered under Medicare — a decision the rocked the country's universal health care system.
I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic — with a three-year wait list; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks.
Government researchers now note that more than 1.5 million Ontarians (or 12% of that province's population...
"My health care prejudices crumbled on the way to a medical school class. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute.
Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care.
Dr. Jacques Chaoulli faces the media in Montreal in June 2005, after he got Canada's Supreme Court to strike down a Quebec law banning private insurance for services covered under Medicare — a decision the rocked the country's universal health care system.
I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic — with a three-year wait list; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks.
Government researchers now note that more than 1.5 million Ontarians (or 12% of that province's population) can't find family physicians. Health officials in one Nova Scotia community actually resorted to a lottery to determine who'd get a doctor's appointment.
These problems are not unique to Canada — they characterize all government-run health care systems."
Dr. Jacques Chaoulli
after he got Canada's Supreme Court to strike down a Quebec law banning private insurance for services covered under Medicare — a decision the rocked the country's universal health care system.
WE DO NOT WANT, OR NEED, SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.
We just need to overhall our free market system...what about Tort reform to start....why won't Obama allow it??? Follow the money!
I guess you could say we are dying of capitalist stupidity.
Over 70% of Americans, according to recent polling, want a public option, but it looks as though the dupes of the insurance industry are ready to fight reason at every turn.
Socilaized medicine does not work anywhere successfully!
The question asked in the poll was "Would you support a public health care option?" so it had nothing to do with tort reform, but the President has called for that reform as well.
Today it seems all that interests us is profit. Capitalism has become our God instead of our servant, and because of that what we earn has become more important than what we do. That is a recipe for failure in both government and industry.
"We have allowed capitalism to become our God rather than our servant."
I think that is why capitalism is seen as evil by so many today.
In socialism the state is seen as the utimate arbitrator.
I'm not sure this is true
The USA has a high stress level due to unemployment and the economy, hell even working causes higher stress levels.
so do you think it's the medicine or a overall better social conditoning of the general population