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Why do People belive he is a Muslim.

vanessafromdc 2010/08/22 20:17:06
Related Topics: Obama, Pew, Elected, Polls


People who hate Obama are more apt to think he's Muslim

A number of people suggested yesterday that the rise in people who think
Obama is a Muslim reflects the fact that people may simply be describing him
this way to express general disapproval or anger over his performance.


Today, Post polling director Jon Cohen does a deep
dive into the numbers
and comes up with more evidence supporting this
case.
Cohen points out that two polls released yesterday both found very different
answers to the "Muslim" question. The Time poll found that 24 percent falsely
think he's Muslim, while the Pew poll found that "only" 18 percent believe this?
Why? It's all in the question's wording:

Time pollsters asked, "Do you personally believe that Barack Obama is a
Muslim or a Christian," dangling red meat in front of the president's opponents.

The Pew question presented respondents with a more extensive list: "Now,
thinking about Barack Obama's religious beliefs ... Do you happen to know what
Barack Obama's religion is? Is he Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu,
atheist, agnostic, or something else?"

When given a stark choice between Muslim and Christian (the Time poll), more
said Obama is a Muslim. When given a broader menu of religious options (the Pew
poll), respondents presmuably were forced to focus harder on the question of
what religion Obama really is. This may be why fewer were willing to slap the
false relgious label on him.

Also supporting this view: A larger percentage (44 percent) of those who
disapprove of Obama overall called him a Muslim in the Time poll, where they
were given a stark choice, than in the Pew poll (30 percent), where they were
forced to concentrate harder on the question.

So there you have it: The more people dislike Obama, the more apt they are to
label him as a Muslim. One broader point: It's also possible that calling Obama
a Muslim is a general stand in for claiming that he's not legitimately our
president, that he has falsely represented himself to the American people in
some way.

As dispproval with Obama's policies rises -- and as Obama sets about trying
to transform America's relationship with the rest of the world -- it's
apparently becoming too painful for a growing number of people to admit that
Americans legitimately chose an African American with a Muslim name as leader of
the free world. The notion that the president got elected by misleading the
American people about his identity in a very fundamental way might be an
increasingly easier thing for many people to accept.

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  • Judy ~Hopele... 2010/09/01 07:47:55
    Judy
    That point is what should make us a little concerned. We really don't know much at all about the man. Is he secretive or is he just not very personal. I don't know, but it makes me not want to trust him very far.
  • ~Hopele... Judy 2010/09/02 02:46:42
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    You have a point! I don't really want a secretive president either!
  • The Centrist 2010/08/31 05:17:17
    The Centrist
    +1
    personaly don't care
  • Algor. Mortis. - ҎԊǢɬ Physician
    +3
    People are gullible
  • Queen B 2010/08/31 04:34:31
    Queen B
    +3
    Willful ignorance, political rhetoric, partisan politics, propaganda from rwnjs, mush brained from too much rw radio and faux news, pissed off a democrat is in the White House, pissed off a half black man is in the White House.....the list goes on and on......pick one.
  • Judy Queen B 2010/08/31 22:52:52
    Judy
    Those reason could be one of the problems but I hope you will read what I wrote above and see why I have concerns.
  • Queen B Judy 2010/09/01 05:13:44 (edited)
    Queen B
    +1
    So are you only concerned about Obama's so-called "empathy" toward the Muslims or have you not been paying attention all these years to just how much the United States government has been in bed with those who we now call our enemies? Wake up and pay attention to something other than Fox News Comedy Network!

    Did you know that during the late 1950s, U.S officials allegedly made contact with a young Iraqi named Saddam Hussein? Hussein then became part of a CIA authorized squad tasked with carrying out the assassination of then Iraqi Prime minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.

    Or that in 1963, the United States backed a coup against the government of Iraq headed by General Qasim, who five years earlier had deposed the Western-allied Iraqi monarchy.

    How about in 1968, again with the alleged backing of the CIA, Rahman Arif was overthrown by Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr of the Ba'ath Party, bringing Saddam Hussein to the threshold of power. Some believe that Robert Anderson, former secretary of the treasury under President Dwight D. Eisenhower, secretly met with the Ba'ath Party and came to a negotiated agreement according to which both the oil field concessions and sulphur mined in the northern part of the country would go to United States companies if the Ba'ath again took over power.

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    So are you only concerned about Obama's so-called "empathy" toward the Muslims or have you not been paying attention all these years to just how much the United States government has been in bed with those who we now call our enemies? Wake up and pay attention to something other than Fox News Comedy Network!

    Did you know that during the late 1950s, U.S officials allegedly made contact with a young Iraqi named Saddam Hussein? Hussein then became part of a CIA authorized squad tasked with carrying out the assassination of then Iraqi Prime minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.

    Or that in 1963, the United States backed a coup against the government of Iraq headed by General Qasim, who five years earlier had deposed the Western-allied Iraqi monarchy.

    How about in 1968, again with the alleged backing of the CIA, Rahman Arif was overthrown by Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr of the Ba'ath Party, bringing Saddam Hussein to the threshold of power. Some believe that Robert Anderson, former secretary of the treasury under President Dwight D. Eisenhower, secretly met with the Ba'ath Party and came to a negotiated agreement according to which both the oil field concessions and sulphur mined in the northern part of the country would go to United States companies if the Ba'ath again took over power.

    The United States allegedly gave Saddam Hussein the green light for attacking Iran.
    Beginning in 1980 during Reagan's presidency, the CIA militarily and monetarily assisted Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War. Indirectly it was doing tremendous damage by providing covert assistance to Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis for their bloody war with Iran.

    In mid-1979, about the same time as the Soviet Union deployed troops into Afghanistan, the United States began giving several hundred million dollars a year in aid to the Afghan Mujahideen insurgents fighting the Afghan Marxist government and the Soviet Army in Operation Cyclone. Along with native Afghan Mujahideen were Muslim volunteers from other countries, popularly known as Afghan Arabs. The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden, known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs.

    As the war neared its end, bin Laden organized the al-Qaeda organization to carry on armed jihad in other venues, primarily against the United States — the country that had HELPED FUND the mujahideen against the Soviets.

    As for your concern for Israel - they are their own country and it is NOT the job of the US to hold their hand and take their side on every single issue they have with other countries in the middle east. Doing so has only put our own interests and safety in peril. Let them stand on their own. Obama has to try and work on a myriad of issues with many different kinds of leaders in the middle east - some of whom hate us thanks to our always supporting Israel and also for going into their part of the world like bulls in a china shop and starting a war we didn't need to start against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 nor had any WMD.

    You say Obama is being apologetic or showing too much empathy for Muslims - he's trying to get all parties to the table to avoid more bloodshed. It's called diplomacy. That cowboy diplomacy that Bush was so fond of didn't work at all.
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  • Brian Queen B 2010/09/01 16:37:38
    Brian
    +1
    An excellent, brief history of US involvement in the region!
  • Queen B Brian 2010/09/01 16:42:36
    Queen B
    Thnx.....I was trying to be concise.
  • Brian Queen B 2010/09/01 17:59:17
    Brian
    +1
    You did it. Well done!
  • Blix Queen B 2010/09/02 08:06:53
    Blix
    +1
    Well Said Queen B
  • Queen B Blix 2010/09/02 12:36:23
    Queen B
    Thank you = )
  • Bill 2010/08/31 04:28:32
    Bill
    +2
    The people who believe this are willfully ignorant in most case’s, stupid in other case’s and racist in last group. They want to think the worst of him and are more than happy to swallow all the nonsense coming out of the right wing propaganda machine at FOX news and on talk radio these fools don’t want the truth they just want to hate.
  • vanessa... Bill 2010/08/31 12:56:51
    vanessafromdc
    +1
    Fox Entertainment.....
  • Judy vanessa... 2010/08/31 22:53:12
    Judy
    No VAnessa, that's not correct!
  • Brian Judy 2010/09/01 16:38:32
    Brian
    Vanessa is correct. News and commentary are not the same thing.
  • Judy Brian 2010/09/01 17:34:28
    Judy
    True, but what you don't recognize is that they do report the news. Try watching the morning shows and you will see.
  • Brian Judy 2010/09/01 18:03:51
    Brian
    Ok. I did not know they had anything other than commentary, and commentary disguised as news. Thanks for your post.
  • Judy vanessa... 2010/09/01 18:24:33
    Judy
    Vanessa, I like you but please don't get caught up in this garbage of hate and claims of racism. It is not true. I ask you to find out for yourself if this stuff is true, don't take their angry and hateful rhetoric as being gospel because it aint. It's false and I hope you will discover that on your own. Please trust me long enough to go to my blog and see some of my writing. Yes, I am very anti Obama Policy and his philosophies but I like the man. He is a cute dad, I think of him setting up the swing set like dads do and playing with the dog. I think he tries to raise his family with values and that he loves his family. I believe he and Michelle are a cute couple, I mean a beautiful couple, and that he believes in what he is doing. I fear his policies for good reason and it has nothing to do with race, hate, fear of him being Muslim (since I researched him on that and no longer believe he is Muslim) and I fear that the transformation he wants for America is in complete opposition to the Constitution and will destroy our way of life. It has nothing to do with hating Democrats, black, liberals, or anything else. Do you understand what I'm saying. Please think for yourself dear and find out the truth for yourself. Why Are We Talking About Racism; Despicable Human Beings; and Q. ...
    Vanessa, I like you but please don't get caught up in this garbage of hate and claims of racism. It is not true. I ask you to find out for yourself if this stuff is true, don't take their angry and hateful rhetoric as being gospel because it aint. It's false and I hope you will discover that on your own. Please trust me long enough to go to my blog and see some of my writing. Yes, I am very anti Obama Policy and his philosophies but I like the man. He is a cute dad, I think of him setting up the swing set like dads do and playing with the dog. I think he tries to raise his family with values and that he loves his family. I believe he and Michelle are a cute couple, I mean a beautiful couple, and that he believes in what he is doing. I fear his policies for good reason and it has nothing to do with race, hate, fear of him being Muslim (since I researched him on that and no longer believe he is Muslim) and I fear that the transformation he wants for America is in complete opposition to the Constitution and will destroy our way of life. It has nothing to do with hating Democrats, black, liberals, or anything else. Do you understand what I'm saying. Please think for yourself dear and find out the truth for yourself. Why Are We Talking About Racism; Despicable Human Beings; and Q. and A. About Racism Claims. If you read these articles, I think you will see for yourself that most Conservatives don't believe what they are portrayed to be. You will find articles about Congress and Obama as well that do not show him in a good light. I'm sorry about that but I have to say what I think is true. You don't have to agree with me but I hope you will at least read one article. The Enemy From Within. If you hate what I say or disagree withit, please leave a comment saying so. As long as it is civil, I will always okay the comment. I welcome others opinions, even when they disagree with me. Thanks, I hope you will check out the articles so you get a better idea of how I feel and others feel as well.
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  • Rumpleteazer 2010/08/31 03:53:39
    Rumpleteazer
    +2
    Because the West & the East (islam vs Christianity) are on a collision course
  • vanessa... Rumplet... 2010/08/31 12:53:16
    vanessafromdc
    +1
    It has started....Al-Quida is using the hate that is shown to recruit...They are saying see I told you so!!!!
  • Judy vanessa... 2010/08/31 22:55:24
    Judy
    I know, that's how satan or the devil works.
  • Brian Judy 2010/09/01 16:41:11
    Brian
    And he has people on the "christian" side doing his bidding too! They hate us so we hate them, and they hate us becuase we hate them, etc.. Satan IS behind the HATE in the hearts of "muslims" AND "christians." Pick a side, either side, you are still on Satan's side because God IS LOVE, not HATE.
  • Judy Rumplet... 2010/08/31 22:54:50
    Judy
    Yes, that is one problem with the two religions. I started with Abraham and his wife Sarah giving her husband a woman to sire a son. That son is the oldest and should be recognized as the heir but Abraham gave the inheritance to his second son. That sums up the problem in a nut shell.
  • Judy Rumplet... 2010/09/01 17:38:40
    Judy
    It's bound to happen. It started with Abraham's two sons. One son follows Christ and the other follows Islam. Christians wait for the return of Christ and Islam waits for the return of of the Twelfth Imam. It's a sad state when people who both claim to love God can't be tolerant of the other's beliefs. Yes, the day is coming for sure when the collision will create the battle of Armageddon.
  • Babel Fish 2010/08/31 03:33:45 (edited)
    Babel Fish
    +3
    Don't worry about the fact they do, the polls show that most Americans don't. If that's true they know that the hard right are lying. then you got to ask who the hell is going to vote for a bunch of proven liars?



    After the Bush stated the great big lie that sent USA sons and daughters to a war that should of never happen. The republicans lost votes and the methodologies now are losing many more.
  • vanessa... Babel Fish 2010/08/31 17:23:50
    vanessafromdc
    +1
    Very well put!!!
  • Judy Babel Fish 2010/08/31 23:00:46
    Judy
    I hate to tell you dear that what you just said is NOT true. I is a problem from far before we became a country. The problem is caused by Abraham and his wife Sarah. Another reason is that we were attacked by Muslim radical. We have a reason to worry about Muslims because we don't know the religion very well. That's why I spent hours learning about their religion and about Obama. I dare any one to spend the same amount of time to do their own research and find out for themselves instead of speculating and believing falsehood promoted by either side. You have to have an open mind though and willing to learn like I did. All you have to do is search google and that gives you plenty of information on the subject. I looked up Sharia law, Twelfth Imam, Infidel, kill infidels, and Iran as responsible for the Twelfth Imam return. Do that and you will know what you're talking about then instead of spewing garbage. Thanks. Tell me what you learn okay.
  • Babel Fish Judy 2010/09/01 00:09:32
    Babel Fish
    I have spent year my dear, studying and writing about religion and know the Muslim religion very well. I have spent hours with cleric in many places around the globe. Also with Muslim scholars. I have read the koran and studied well for many years as I have done with the Bible and the Hebrew Tanakh the source document of your Old Testament's תורה נביאים כתובים. I have lived in Muslim communities as a global traveler and writer.

    You say you only been studying Islam for less than a few years?

    Have you studied Sufism and moderate Islam? If you had you may of help erode the fear 2 blocks away from the 9/11 ground zero.

    In the judgment how people will vote due to the stupidity of the hard rights lies and deceit I feel that I am total spot on.

    Sharia law is only practice by 300,000 Muslims in the middle east mostly. The 1.25 Billion moderates Muslims mostly in Asia are anti Sharia law. Such as the Sufi Muslims on Manhattan Island, Sufi is an interfaith form of Islamic faith it has been influenced by Hindu and Buddhism.

    Suggest you keep on studying and google searching such as "Muslims against Sharia Law" and "Sufism".

    As for being any form of expert your certainly not nor am I as I have many more religions to research, it takes a life time.

    Suggest you picked on the wrong person and here is a good google search to show you why "Babel fish religion". Thanks for dropping in and please keep on studying. lol
  • Judy Babel Fish 2010/09/01 00:54:39
    Judy
    I only spent an hour or two studying the questions I have about the religion. I looked up Sharia because so much is being said in the news about it coming to America and that they (Muslims ) are trying to get it recognized in America . I believe most Muslims are good people and committed to living a righteous life. They are not the ones who are extreme. At least I hope they are not because we have a huge amount of them entering our country. The problem is that I don't trust the motives of those who want to build the Mosque near the 9/11 site. The fact that the site HAS TO GO RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE GROUND ZERO is a concern for me. Also a huge concern is that they want to dedicate the building on the exact date of the tenth anniversary of 9/11! Doesn't that seem very suspicious to you? Now we find out that the man who put 4 or 5 million dollars down on the site worked as a waiter a few years ago and won't tell us where he got the money to put down on the building. Of course that is not our business but I would think he would want to tell us to dispel concerns if everything is on the up and up. To add even more questions, he owes property taxes of well over $200,000 and another fee for over $1000. Why doesn't he pay the money if he had millions to put down on it? ...
    I only spent an hour or two studying the questions I have about the religion. I looked up Sharia because so much is being said in the news about it coming to America and that they (Muslims ) are trying to get it recognized in America. I believe most Muslims are good people and committed to living a righteous life. They are not the ones who are extreme. At least I hope they are not because we have a huge amount of them entering our country. The problem is that I don't trust the motives of those who want to build the Mosque near the 9/11 site. The fact that the site HAS TO GO RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE GROUND ZERO is a concern for me. Also a huge concern is that they want to dedicate the building on the exact date of the tenth anniversary of 9/11! Doesn't that seem very suspicious to you? Now we find out that the man who put 4 or 5 million dollars down on the site worked as a waiter a few years ago and won't tell us where he got the money to put down on the building. Of course that is not our business but I would think he would want to tell us to dispel concerns if everything is on the up and up. To add even more questions, he owes property taxes of well over $200,000 and another fee for over $1000. Why doesn't he pay the money if he had millions to put down on it? Why would he risk losing it? It is just way too suspicious to me. And then I learned from my contact in Jerusalem that Muslims celebrate their conquest by putting up a Mosque over the existing churches to claim dominance. It seems like that is the idea for the Mosque/Center having to be in that exact place, because ground zero is plainly in view from the site. It isn't the Muslim religion I fear, it is the motives of those behind the Center that I fear. Am I being reasonable to have these concerns or am I being silly? Honestly, what do you think about my concerns?
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  • Babel Fish Judy 2010/09/01 01:51:53
    Babel Fish
    +1
    I can not see a Sufi having any motive other than building a prayer room on a site that is already a Sufi prayer room. What I do see is people inventing many for political reasons.

    I can not see why a christian priest and a Jewish Rabi would support this Islamic Scholar a local champion of interfaith without logic reason too.

    I am very sure that Sufi's would not received money from any terrorist organization knowingly. They are against terrorism and Sharia law.

    Remember that there are false claims and the Islamophobia crowd have piled in with many of those claims mainly extremist religious far right bigots. The media has had a hay day, then the truth starts to come out we find people have twisted the word of the cleric. People have had no clue tha Sufism is clearly a moderate Hindu, Budist form of peaceful Islamic leaning. Its an interfaith and not a radical militant religion. These are the guys that are linking to other faiths all over America, Have been doing so for a very long time.

    it buggers believe that any body feared Sufism a faith that radicals do not wish to recognize let alone militants. It goes beyond the lack of knowledge of Islam its also a lack of knowledge of the moderate Islamic society and the sour mouth politicians and christian extremist have used that fac...











    I can not see a Sufi having any motive other than building a prayer room on a site that is already a Sufi prayer room. What I do see is people inventing many for political reasons.

    I can not see why a christian priest and a Jewish Rabi would support this Islamic Scholar a local champion of interfaith without logic reason too.

    I am very sure that Sufi's would not received money from any terrorist organization knowingly. They are against terrorism and Sharia law.

    Remember that there are false claims and the Islamophobia crowd have piled in with many of those claims mainly extremist religious far right bigots. The media has had a hay day, then the truth starts to come out we find people have twisted the word of the cleric. People have had no clue tha Sufism is clearly a moderate Hindu, Budist form of peaceful Islamic leaning. Its an interfaith and not a radical militant religion. These are the guys that are linking to other faiths all over America, Have been doing so for a very long time.

    it buggers believe that any body feared Sufism a faith that radicals do not wish to recognize let alone militants. It goes beyond the lack of knowledge of Islam its also a lack of knowledge of the moderate Islamic society and the sour mouth politicians and christian extremist have used that factor.

    Please read

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/0...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    I am sorry but I just see a good man in the need of a larger pray room and a culture center with a swimming pool so that women can swim on their own in the Islamic custom.

    I find the claims against this man, Sufi community and the Islamophobia disgusting, But that is because I do understand the religion and have done my research.

    I will if you don't mind stick with my view on this as I am very sure its the correct and honest truthful view.
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  • Judy Babel Fish 2010/09/01 02:53:53
    Judy
    +1
    Thank you so much for the information. I will definitely check out the links you gave me. Thanks, I appreciate it. I want to know the truth. I hope you understand why I have been so suspicious. By the way, have you ever checked into the Mormon church or read the Book of Mormon? I was just curious.
  • Babel Fish Judy 2010/09/01 03:05:06 (edited)
    Babel Fish
    Its the best way to and always keep an open mind you may not get to the truth always but always close to it. Your very welcome and sorry for telling you off. Hope you find enlightenment.

    I have studied the Morman religion, I was one for a few years got looped in when i was young 15 years old, prior to they got banned for influencing the youth in UK back in the 60s. I like tea and coffee that was one of the problems i had being a Mormon. I actual forgot that part of my Christian life, so thanks for reminding me.
  • Its Ms.MiMi,b!tch 2010/08/31 03:13:42
    Its Ms.MiMi,b!tch
    +2
    the ppl that believe that he is are simply morons..end of story
  • Judy Its Ms.... 2010/08/31 23:02:51
    Judy
    The moron is the one who makes such an uneducated statement. Find out the truth by personal research. Or would you rather make a stupid statement like that without knowing? Are you satisfied with this concept or would you rather understand why people have a problem with the concept of him being Muslim. Believe me, it is not for stupid reasons, as you may suspect.
  • Its Ms.... Judy 2011/05/02 18:33:10
    Its Ms.MiMi,b!tch
    your entire reply to me was uneducated.but then again,what would one expect from people such as yourself?
    not to mention a lame brained sock puppet.go back to ur drawer,you'v been blocked!
  • bags 2010/08/31 03:02:11
    bags
    +4
    And if he was? So what? We've had Quakers, Catholics, various Protestant denominations........

    Religious freedom, folks. Basic tenet of that Constitution of that country you love so much......this one...the US.....remember????
  • Judy bags 2010/08/31 23:04:44
    Judy
    Yes, and I'm Mormon. You know how many times people make up stupid lies about what I am supposed to believe which is far from the truth. They take what others say and just pass the lie along, thinking that it's the truth without ever verifying if it is. I think it's time to find out the truth before we continue to pass along a lie. How do you feel about this concept?
  • bags Judy 2010/08/31 23:11:11
    bags
    I'm with you, Judy. If someone belongs to a religion....any religion....and they follow that religion and it brings them peace, I'm in favor of it. I have always been fascinated by other cultures and their beliefs, and I belittle no one for them. Why waste the time, your beliefs may sound as odd to them.
  • Judy bags 2010/08/31 23:32:52
    Judy
    Yep, they may but I think we may also agree more than we disagree. They may follow the Twelfth Imam and I follow Christ, but other than that we believe in the same type of commitment. That's why I respect them, as long as they are not a Terrorist in the making.

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