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Why do men & women who serve in the U.S. Military 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, only get 50% of their pay at retirement, while those in Congress protected by these same men & women get FULL pay retirement after only ONE term?

tncdel 2011/07/02 04:31:36
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Additionally, the staffers of Congress family members are exempt from having to pay back student loans.



For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws.



The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform... in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn't seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don't care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.



The following is a bill proposed by "We the People:"



Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."

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  • true american 2011/07/02 13:48:42
    I'm okay with that [explain why].
    true american
    +6
    While I am still currently serving, and I am past my 20 years. I feel that it is more of a greater good to serve than what I end up with after the service is complete. Now when it comes to those in congress, I feel they are completely over paid lawyers.

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  • ed 2011/07/02 14:56:31
    That's wrong [explain why].
    ed
    +1
    we should do our best to fix that.It's not right or fair at all.
  • true american 2011/07/02 13:48:42
    I'm okay with that [explain why].
    true american
    +6
    While I am still currently serving, and I am past my 20 years. I feel that it is more of a greater good to serve than what I end up with after the service is complete. Now when it comes to those in congress, I feel they are completely over paid lawyers.
  • tncdel true am... 2011/07/02 13:54:01
    tncdel
    +4
    That's the difference between those who serve our country ... and those who serve themselves.
  • true am... tncdel 2011/07/02 19:49:22
    true american
    +1
    Your right
  • gray ghost 2011/07/02 11:43:24
    That's wrong [explain why].
    gray ghost
    +2
    Military retirees haven't received a cola increase for the past 2 years. As a matter of fact they had a decrease, mine has gone down $ 50.00 in the past 2 years.
  • tncdel gray ghost 2011/07/02 13:54:40
    tncdel
    +2
    Same for my disability benefits.
  • ed gray ghost 2011/07/02 14:58:44
    ed
    +3
    while politicans have most likely had and increase in theirs
  • gray ghost ed 2011/07/02 16:34:55
    gray ghost
    +1
    No doubt.
  • MadAsHEck gray ghost 2011/07/02 17:32:40
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    And unfortunately the COLA that could happen next year, may be revised again. They want to change the formula that is now used and reduce the load on the budget.

    An also there is a move afoot to have Tricare for Life a paid for plan, and payments taken out of retirement pay like they take Medicare out of Social Security checks.
  • gray ghost MadAsHEck 2011/07/02 23:41:08
    gray ghost
    +1
    I know, seems like they are taking away everything that was promised us when we joined. Veterans and those on active duty now are what has kept this country free and now we are being shoved aside. Deep down, I don't think God is going to allow this to go on much longer. I know He has more patience than me.
  • les_gvt MadAsHEck 2011/07/03 19:42:51
    les_gvt
    +1
    we need to reduce the load on the budget, the shrimp need more treadmills
  • Lynn 2011/07/02 05:32:26 (edited)
    That's wrong [explain why].
    Lynn
    +3
    The foxes are guarding the henhouse....

    I am incomplete agreement with your proposed 28th amendment.
  • lostinspace91 2011/07/02 05:06:07
  • EliteAmongOutcasts 2011/07/02 04:58:21 (edited)
  • tncdel EliteAm... 2011/07/02 13:58:21 (edited)
    tncdel
    +1
    You may not believe this, but when I enlisted I figured I was volunteering to serve our country, and was surprised to find out that we actually got paid to serve our country. In fact I felt a tad guilty accepting that $74/month or whatever it was way back when I enlisted in 1970.
  • EliteAm... tncdel 2011/07/02 14:06:52 (edited)
  • MadAsHEck tncdel 2011/07/02 17:35:42
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    It was 96.90 in 1951 when I enlisted. And as an E7 in 1971 when I retired my base was about $640.00.
  • tncdel MadAsHEck 2011/07/04 03:22:38 (edited)
    tncdel
    I don't think it was quite as high when I enlisted for as an E-1. My memory's foggy, but I think it was only about $74/ month back then. Upon completing basic training in the USAF they automatically promoted you to an E-2. From there I went to electronics tech school in MS at Keesler AFB. Was only a couple years after Hurricane Camille devastated the area.
  • MadAsHEck tncdel 2011/07/04 05:03:00
    MadAsHEck
    I remember now - you are right, it was in the range of $74 in boot Camp and went up after boot when I became a 2 striper.
  • les_gvt tncdel 2011/07/03 19:44:34
    les_gvt
    +1
    wow, I was making a killing then, I got $518 /month
  • Ken 2011/07/02 04:44:58
    That's wrong [explain why].
    Ken
    +2
    Very wrong and it needs changed.
  • none 2011/07/02 04:36:38
    I'm okay with that [explain why].
    none
    That 's the way it's been for decades and it works. If you join the service at 18, get an education get a trade that works in the world then when you retire at 38 you have years to take advantage of what you learned and get a second retirement plan.
  • tncdel none 2011/07/02 04:50:09
    tncdel
    +2
    But what about the other things? Does full pay retirement after just one 4 year term in Congress "work" for you too? And how about the laws Congress exempted themselves from that the rest of us must follow? Does that "work" for you as well? It doesn't for me.
  • Gooky 2011/07/02 04:34:49
    That's wrong [explain why].
    Gooky
    +2
    This turns my stomach!

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