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Why do gays hijack the black civil rights struggle ?


You hear it all the time: Gay activists claim that their push for gay marriage, added legal protections, gay affirmative action, and more gay rights are all the legacy of the African American struggle for Civil Rights.



Really?



Let me ask you: Is a gay pride parade the moral equivalent of the black civil rights marches in the South in the 1950s and 1960s ? When black leaders were being sprayed with firehoses, beaten with police clubs, and attacked by dogs, was their struggle the same as gays parading around half-naked on a float?





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...? NO!


Should someone have consulted with Rosa Parks to let her know that when she refused to move to the back of the bus, she was actually standing up for gay marriage, not just for ending segregation?



When Rosa Parks defied the law, her fate and the outcome of her cause were uncertain. In San Francisco, the issue of gay rights has been settled in every area but marriage. As Jesse Jackson noted, gays always could vote and enjoyed other rights. The only question left is whether same-sex marriage can be called marriage -- and there are plenty of gay people who don't care about the outcome.”



http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-02-23/opinion/17414431_1_rosa...



To quote Barb Davis White:



“ROSA PARKS DID NOT MOVE TO THE FRONT OF THE BUS TO SUPPORT SODOMY.”



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Forget for a minute the irony that statistically, most of the openly gay “districts” in the USA are predominately white and high-income. San Francisco’s Castro, New York’s West Greenwich Village and Chelsea… WHITE, WHITE, WHITE – and wealthy. Rich whites taking over the movement of poor blacks ? Hmmmm… no irony there?



It seems like the homosexual rights movement is hijacking the work of leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. for their own agenda that has less to do with equality and more to do with destroying decency.



Here’s some more irony for you to chew on:



Most minority voters in California opposed gay marriage by voting Yes on Prop 8. This shocked the hell out of gay activists who chant the line that gay civil rights are a continuation of black civil rights. Well, seems that blacks don’t agree. Turns out Hispanics and Blacks, while they often vote Democrat, do have some essentially conservative values when it comes to family matters and protecting marriage.



http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1375/gay-marriage-civil-unions-op...



Want another irony?



The Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which is the group founded by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (a Republican by the way), is still black and…anti-gay marriage. SCLC took a moral stand against gay marriage, and they were blasted by liberals and gay radicals for doing so, but they stuck to their beliefs like they always have.



http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/11/local/me-sclc11




Seems to me it is tantamount to racism for white gays to hijack the black struggle for civil rights for their own public relations purposes. It is convenient for gays to steal the thunder of a movement that endured firehoses and attack dogs to gain basic rights like voting and equal education.



Black civil rights and homosexual rights are two very different things. One has nothing to do with another.



The black struggle for desegregation, voting rights, and employment rights are on a much higher moral level than gay marriage.





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  • FRED 2010/03/16 18:22:18 (edited)
    FRED
    +13
    I respectfully disagree with you, your Anti-gay bias attitude blind you to comprehend what civil rights mean. The African Americans struggle was based on race. The GLBT(a multiracial group) is straggling for civil rights based on gender. Different but at the same time similar. That’s why it’s called Gays are the new Blacks. Equal rights is the common denominator. Gay parades are an expression of freedom and fun similar to mardi gras or Rio’s Carnival, again your anti-gay bias does not allow you to reason. You may don’t care but a little bit of history may help. On Friday evening, June 27, 1969, the New York City tactical police force raided a popular Greenwich Village gay bar, the Stonewall Inn. Raids were not unusual in 1969; in fact, they were conducted regularly without much resistance. However, that night the street erupted into violent protest as the crowds in the bar fought back. The backlash and several nights of protest that followed have come to be known as the Stonewall Riots.
    Prior to that summer there was little public expression of the lives and experiences of gays and lesbians. The Stonewall Riots marked the beginning of the gay liberation movement that has transformed the oppression of gays and lesbians into calls for pride and action. In the past twenty-five y...







    I respectfully disagree with you, your Anti-gay bias attitude blind you to comprehend what civil rights mean. The African Americans struggle was based on race. The GLBT(a multiracial group) is straggling for civil rights based on gender. Different but at the same time similar. That’s why it’s called Gays are the new Blacks. Equal rights is the common denominator. Gay parades are an expression of freedom and fun similar to mardi gras or Rio’s Carnival, again your anti-gay bias does not allow you to reason. You may don’t care but a little bit of history may help. On Friday evening, June 27, 1969, the New York City tactical police force raided a popular Greenwich Village gay bar, the Stonewall Inn. Raids were not unusual in 1969; in fact, they were conducted regularly without much resistance. However, that night the street erupted into violent protest as the crowds in the bar fought back. The backlash and several nights of protest that followed have come to be known as the Stonewall Riots.
    Prior to that summer there was little public expression of the lives and experiences of gays and lesbians. The Stonewall Riots marked the beginning of the gay liberation movement that has transformed the oppression of gays and lesbians into calls for pride and action. In the past twenty-five years we have all been witness to an astonishing flowering of gay culture that has changed this country and beyond, forever. action twenty-five years witness astonishing flowering gay culture changed country action twenty-five years witness astonishing flowering gay culture changed country action twenty-five years witness astonishing flowering gay culture changed country

    Homophobia is most often manifested in Discrimination. still a great deal of subtle anti-homosexual discrimination. Is an unspoken daily straggle of the GLBT people from Childhood to adulthood. Because of this, many homosexuals still fear being fired from their jobs, denied housing, or harassed in various ways. Extreme cases of homophobia have resulted in cases in which a person was murdered because of their actual or perceived homosexuality. Homosexuals were one of the groups persecuted under the Nazi regime. As many as 600,000 homosexuals died in the Holocaust but conveniently society does not talk about it. In our society gay bashing is very common; murder is the most extreme manifestation of homophobia, and occurs relatively infrequently (though often homophobic ally-based attacks are not reported or prosecuted as such). Much more common are cases of non-fatal beatings, shootings, stabbings, and other assaults, including verbal assaults and bullying. Fear of physical violence is widespread among homosexuals, Even urban environments are not always safe, as it is not unknown for gangs of youths to travel into gay communities in search of targets. Homophobia also harms non-gay people as well. Extremist far-right conservative and religious groups use anti-gay bias
    to further their political goals. Anti-gay bias leads everyone compromise
    their morals and treat others badly. Anti-gay bias causes young people to engage in sexual behavior earlier
    in order to prove that they are straight. Anti-gay bias contributed
    significantly to the spread of the AIDS epidemic. Anti-gay bias inhibits
    the ability of schools to create effective honest sexual education
    programs that would save children's lives and prevent STD’s. I can go on and on.
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  • Waiting 2010/03/17 03:32:26
    Waiting
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    Of course it is not the same. You picked images of blacks sufering and gays celebrating . Hardly a fair comparison. It was a childish attempt to manipulate.

    Try these.

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  • Leslie Waiting 2011/03/27 15:50:24
    Leslie
    He could have shown pictures of Emmitt Till, James Byrd, Michael Griffith, Amado Dialo, Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, Elenor Bumpers and hundreds and hundreds more.
  • Bill 2010/03/17 02:32:25
    Bill
    Thanks to Rosa Parks the African American gay community is free to express their sexuality as equal with browns, yellowes and whites, and yes Rosa Parks moved to the front of the bus to stop discrimination and to promote equal rights.
  • LeifEri... Bill 2010/03/18 01:40:10
    LeifEriksson
    +1
    Interestingly, the African American population turned out in record numbers to vote down gay marriage twice. They don't seem to see homosexuality as equal.
  • fam 2010/03/17 02:15:36
    fam
    +2
    Gays should have equal rights under the law to married. get over it.
  • Jester 2010/03/17 02:08:35
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/17 03:11:14
    tewaz1
    +1
    Is that what you think of us Jester? I thought you better than that. Disappointing.
  • Jester tewaz1 2010/03/17 03:12:55
    Jester
    +5
    I am just being a smart ass, relax. Bronx is quite used to my eccentricities by now and it is his poll.
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/17 03:27:54
    tewaz1
    +1
    Sorry, I'm usually beyond being affected by what people say on here, but this guy pushed my buttons. It's funny, I can handle people telling me I should be stoned to death, sent to an island to rot, etc... but someone tells homosexuals to sit down and shut up, and it makes me furious.
  • Jester tewaz1 2010/03/17 03:29:14
    Jester
    +5
    Bronx typically tries to push the envelope, that is what I enjoy about the guy.
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/17 03:34:22
    tewaz1
    +1
    There's a word for saying something you don't believe in order to get a rise out of people, it's called trolling, and it is the pastime of the sad and impotent.
    There's a phrase as well for saying these types of things and believing them, it's lack of empathy. And it makes the world a very dark place.
  • Jester tewaz1 2010/03/17 04:35:22 (edited)
    Jester
    +5
    The immutable fact of Soda head is if anyone says anything derogatory about homosexuals members come out of the wood work like their mother just got pimp slapped. It is quite humorous actually.

    Do I sometimes antagonize people for my own amusement? Sure, but it also serves a purpose.

    That purpose is for politically correct pundits to get a clue that the entire world does not think like they do.
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/17 07:38:15
    tewaz1
    I've seen you comment before, and I know you can be insightful and clever, but when people attack the character of gay people in general, or their desire to be able to have the ones they love recognized as family, it isn't about PC, it's personal. It isn't any different than when people characterize all Christians as WBC nutjobs, it impacts public opinion, and the way people treat each other. Many of us have to listen to this BS every day, often from our own family. It isn't that we don't have tough skin, we have to. It's that if we don't call people on their shit, no one will, and they'll keep saying it, and they'll convince others, who will start spouting the same BS, and convincing others. So, in everyday life, I'm content to just be a good person and set an example of what gay people are really like, which is just like everyone else. But when I hear people spouting BS, I'm going to call them on it, and I'm going to tell them why. Not because I think I'll convince them, some people are so steeped in their dogma they can't see the human in front of them through their own ideals. I call them on it so that people who just don't know, who haven't met a gay person, who think they're just like the caricatures they see on TV, might be able to put themselves in another person's shoes, or at least start questioning the idiocy that bombards us every single day.
  • Jester tewaz1 2010/03/17 14:24:38
    Jester
    +4
    The difference between you and I is that I do not feel the need to conform my behavior to what is deemed acceptable by others, only myself.

    It is a most liberating way to be,
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/17 14:31:02
    tewaz1
    Everybody conforms in one way or another. People who don't think they conform are just that, "non-conformist" type, which is just as much a predictable staple of society as everyone else.
    Besides, I think you could hardly call me a conformist, however, I do try to change the world within my own sphere to be as comfortable for myself, and those around me as possible. Generally, that means changing the minds of those around me, not my behavior.
    If you mean conform as in "try to be nice to other people." That isn't conformation, that is empathy, and a desire for a happier world tomorrow than we had today. A person without empathy cannot benefit society.
  • Jester tewaz1 2010/03/17 14:34:20 (edited)
    Jester
    +3
    Well, feel free to take that up either with either the sociology department or your nearest hippie commune.
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/18 00:13:42
    tewaz1
    Let me guess, "It's a dog eat dog world, and you're going to be the well fed dog." right?
  • Jester tewaz1 2010/03/18 01:15:00
    Jester
    +1
    Not exactly how I would word it, but I do as I please. I do not need your permission.
  • tewaz1 Jester 2010/03/18 03:39:06
    tewaz1
    Of course you don't! I hope you don't think I was implying you do, just sparring.
  • LeifEri... tewaz1 2010/03/18 01:45:30
    LeifEriksson
    +2
    I mean conform as in "be forced to accept something you view as despicable and immoral as normal." That's certainly something that's being forced on me.

    I don't need to be empathetic toward someone who lives an immoral lifestyle, refuses to give it up, AND demands that it be recognized as a valid social behavior. I would have the same reaction if murderers demanded to be given the rights to continue their "lifestyles" at the cost of society.

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