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Why do Conservatives believe Afghanistan is President Obama's war... SINCE 2001?

Ric O'Shea® October 06, 2009 12:27:58

The Conservative thinking process is like that of a goldfish. Is it possible that conservatives are all non-thinking thinkers?
They love to play the Blame Game.
They have Mad Cow disease.
Their minds are like minds of Goldfish.
Gee Ric, I dunno...
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None of the above.
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  • +16 raves [PRISONMOON]+[RSSH] October 06, 2009 19:45:41
    [PRISONMOON]+[RSSH]

    None of the above.

    Ric, if you havn't noticed, it is now 2009, and we now have Barack Hussein Obama in the white house.

    Therefore, it is NOW Obamas war.

    LOL....and you make fun of the conservatives thinking process ?
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  • +1 raves
    mizunde... gryphon1 October 21, 2009 21:55:33
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT
    Awesome comment!!
    Too bad they don't care...
  • +3 raves
    laureenf October 07, 2009 11:45:55 (edited)
    laureenf

    None of the above.

    Because he campaigned on in it! Remember? "Afghanistan is where we took our eye off the ball. Afghanistan is where we need to be. I will get Bin Laden!" Now he waffles??? Yes, it is HIS war NOW. Since he wanted it so badly...could do a better job, could find Bin Laden...Ok...go do it...
  • +1 raves
    mizunde... laureenf October 21, 2009 21:58:26
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT
    That's right laureenf!
  • +3 raves
    bpress October 07, 2009 05:03:06
    bpress

    Gee Ric, I dunno...

    They make it his since they can't stand that the POTUS they elected took his eye off the original fight and went after revenge for his father not overrunning Iraq when he had the chance. They also want the current POTUS to fail at anything and everything.
  • +5 raves
    BrokenD... bpress October 07, 2009 05:28:41
    BrokenDevilDog
    It became his when he claimed it for himself Bud. He's the one that said it was a "must win" situation. He's the one that escalated the war. He's the one that put a new General in charge. He's the CinC. One signature and everybody could have came home. It's his.
  • +2 raves
    bpress BrokenD... October 07, 2009 06:01:32
    bpress
    They can still come home. I'm not in favor of another Vietnam situation where more and more troops are sent.
  • +1 raves
    Ric O'S... BrokenD... October 07, 2009 10:26:46
    Ric O'Shea®
    At one time the war against terror was everyone's war, you could at least commend President Obama for picking up the shattered pieces for the sake of our country.

    Come home? LOL, that is the most illogical statement one could make if they were aware of what the Taliban and Al Qaida represent.
  • +3 raves
    shadow October 07, 2009 03:51:47
    shadow

    None of the above.

    It is not really hard to follow... There is a new sheriff in the White House (just in the event you had not heard Bush is no longer in charge)...

    Obaba wanted the job, fought for the job, did everything he could to get the job....

    Well... Obaba won.... To the victor go the spoils....
  • +1 raves
    mizunde... shadow October 21, 2009 21:59:14
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT
    ExACTly Shadow!
  • +1 raves
    gr8goog... shadow October 22, 2009 10:15:29
    gr8googamooga, In GOD we trust
    very true Shadow...
    by the way Awesome avatar!!!
  • shadow gr8goog... October 23, 2009 15:03:51
    shadow
    Thank you!
  • +2 raves
    BlueStar Belle October 07, 2009 02:45:06
    BlueStar Belle

    Gee Ric, I dunno...

    Well, it's clearly not Obama's war, but it IS his problem... one that he certainly anticipated.

    I view our initial action in Afghanistan as a very distasteful necessity and, initially, I feel that the Bush administration went about it in the right way with a couple notable mistakes (e.g., Tora Bora).

    However, the untenable distraction of Iraq virtually ensured that Afghanistan was going to fester and deteriorate without the proper attention and that we would be repeating the mistakes of the several invaders/occupiers before us.

    Now, after these eight years, it's absolutely essential to make the best possible choices - likely from an array of horrible choices... but it's very important to achieve as much success as is reasonably possible.

    I admit to being very worried, especially with media attention no longer focused in a big way on Afghanistan (although CBS is running a series now). Also, I'm very concerned that the "contrarian" faction in he Republican party will make it every difficult for President Obama to take the necessary steps... just because they can.

    I hope they don't play political games with this issue... for all our sakes and also because my family has "skin" in this game!
  • +1 raves
    BrokenD... BlueSta... October 07, 2009 05:24:29
    BrokenDevilDog
    How can the republicans make it difficult? They don't have the seats in congress to do squat. Barry O has BOTH sides of the congress and still can get virtually nothing done. Talk about an ineffective President.
  • +2 raves
    Ric O'S... BrokenD... October 07, 2009 10:32:24
    Ric O'Shea®
    Okay, heel boy... take some time to think about WHY it is so difficult for us in Afghanistan today... and use some common sense please.
  • +2 raves
    BlueSta... BrokenD... October 07, 2009 13:16:03
    BlueStar Belle
    Well, if you hadn't noticed, the obstructionists (not all Republicans) are easily getting in the way of desperately-needed healthcare reform by simply using the tool of over-zealous rhetoric and there are a bunch of followers who are very willing to set aside reason (not to mention their own past beliefs AND their own self-interest) and jump right on the bandwagon.

    Also, just as they have used the war(s) as a political football in the past, they will find a way to utilize anything the sitting President does to attack the votes and positions of congressional incumbents in the mid-term elections, thus weakening the support of already spineless Democrats. After all, that's really the weapon that President Bush used to get congressional blessing for the action in Iraq, if you'll recall.

    I'm sorry it's so very complicated... the world really isn't so black and white, now is it?
  • +2 raves
    Ric O'S... BlueSta... October 07, 2009 10:29:59
    Ric O'Shea®
    That is a well stated explanation BlueStar Belle. Thank you for your input and your clear perception!!
  • +1 raves
    BlueSta... Ric O'S... October 07, 2009 13:17:02
    BlueStar Belle
    Thanks, Ric!
  • gr8goog... BlueSta... October 23, 2009 21:20:44
    gr8googamooga, In GOD we trust
    You are mostly correct however, the republican party doesnt have enough voices to stop obama from doing anything. Also the republicans are more likely to back a surge if that is what he decides to do, his procrastination on this matter is only getting our people in afghanistan killed.
    His biggest fear in doing what is necessary in afghanistan is alienating his radical left base, they strongly appose any kind of war, which will cost him his healthcare debacle which is the most important thing to him.
  • +1 raves
    BlueSta... gr8goog... October 24, 2009 15:06:30
    BlueStar Belle
    Well, I think it's hard to know what's best just now. I want us out of Afghanistan badly, but I'd also like us to leave having accomplished something - even the original mission. I think a lot of people feel the same way. If it takes more troops, combined with some different tactics and an exit strategy, so be it. It's a tough one with no good choices. I don't think that a few weeks of contemplation and consideration will make a HUGE difference if we can reach the best of the bad choices. Remember, in the "hot" zones over there, it's about to become very cold... difficult to fight on the ground. And, then again, there's always the hope that this administration is playing chess while others are thinking "checkers."
  • gr8goog... BlueSta... October 24, 2009 21:15:48
    gr8googamooga, In GOD we trust
    Again you are correct and about this administration, I love your optimism but I think its just playing politics to get what it can get even from this horrible situation.
  • BlueSta... gr8goog... October 25, 2009 14:37:50
    BlueStar Belle
    I have to be an optimist. My family has "skin" in the game!

    ;-)
  • gr8goog... BlueSta... October 25, 2009 14:43:30
    gr8googamooga, In GOD we trust
    My heart and prayers are with them, and when you are in contact with them again please tell them that I and all Americans who think as I do, thank them for their service and sacrifice!
  • +1 raves
    BlueSta... gr8goog... October 25, 2009 14:47:57
    BlueStar Belle
    Thank you. I'll do just that!
  • +4 raves
    mizunderstood ~ American PA... October 07, 2009 01:54:04 (edited)
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT

    None of the above.

    Many (foolish) people voted for him based on what he promised he would do.
  • Ric O'S... mizunde... October 07, 2009 10:33:59 (edited)
    Ric O'Shea®
    [...]
  • mizunde... Ric O'S... October 07, 2009 22:21:56
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT
    really now!? hmmm
    I'm going to assume you agreed with me :)
  • Ric O'S... mizunde... October 21, 2009 12:01:04
    Ric O'Shea®
    You may assume, but you would be wrong in this regard. Can't recall what I posted, but you need to realize that it took a majority of the votes for Obama to win. He's been in office 9 months, not 4 years... patience is a virtue.
  • +1 raves
    mizunde... Ric O'S... October 21, 2009 22:02:02
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT
    When I replied to your comment it just had the "[...]" so I joked about it, that you were agreeing with me. I like to try to lighten things up when the opportunity shows itself.
    ANYway.... it seems the only thing we're waiting for is the government to have full control over everything... in which case, I hope Obaba fails.
  • +5 raves
    Silverback October 07, 2009 01:45:01
    Silverback

    None of the above.

    Can you really be that stupid and still live. He (Obama) signed on for the job and now it's his. You want to pick and choose what parts of the job he really wants and doesn't? It is now his responsibility period knuckle-head.
  • +4 raves
    mizunde... Silverback October 07, 2009 01:55:16
    mizunderstood ~ American PATRIOT ~ Not Liberal HATRIOT
    lol You tell the truth, and you have a way with words~
    Hi Silverback :)
  • +1 raves
    Ric O'S... Silverback October 07, 2009 10:42:43
    Ric O'Shea®
    LOL!! What's this pick and choose crap? All I'm saying is that the situation in Afghanistan is much more difficult than many realize, and mostly because Dubya let Cheney have his war for profit in Iraq. I'm fully aware it's his responsibility, and President Obama knew that going in. Problem is there's people like you who don't know what shinola is.
  • +4 raves
    Angel October 07, 2009 01:27:43
    Angel

    None of the above.

    duh , he is president , and he did send in 20,000 troops... he is making the calls, its his war........
  • +1 raves
    Ric O'S... Angel October 07, 2009 10:59:09
    Ric O'Shea®
    Yes, it is his war NOW, but at least he's serious about the war against terror. Duh.
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    Angel Ric O'S... October 08, 2009 00:27:21
    Angel
    oh really , funny he said winning was not important
  • Ric O'S... Angel October 09, 2009 03:50:02
    Ric O'Shea®
    He was talking about Iraq.
  • Angel Ric O'S... October 09, 2009 04:10:13
    Angel
    oh no he was not.........

    these are his (obamas)words

    President Obama has put securing Afghanistan near the top of his foreign policy agenda, but "victory" in the war-torn country isn't necessarily the United States' goal, he said Thursday in a TV interview.

    "I'm always worried about using the word 'victory,' because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur," Obama told ABC News.
  • Ric O'S... Angel October 21, 2009 10:24:22
    Ric O'Shea®
    Winning the war against terror... there is no middle ground.
  • Angel Ric O'S... October 21, 2009 16:18:14
    Angel
    yeah , tell O that
  • gr8goog... Ric O'S... October 09, 2009 00:24:59
    gr8googamooga, In GOD we trust
    Wow you've really got it bad!!!!!
    http://www.americanthinker.co...
    Has a US Commander in Chief ever spoken this way in the middle of a war?

    President Obama has put securing Afghanistan near the top of his foreign policy agenda, but "victory" in the war-torn country isn't necessarily the United States' goal, he said Thursday in a TV interview.
  • Ric O'S... gr8goog... October 09, 2009 21:29:01
    Ric O'Shea®
    No, you've got it bad, using The American Thinker as a real source is insanity. The "victory" refers to stopping the terrorist network gathered in Afghanistan, which has moved into Pakistan.
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