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Why didn't the democrats repeal the 'Bush Tax Cuts' when they had total control?

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  • Kern 2012/04/17 18:40:43
    They couldn't...
    Kern
    +5
    I know that the Democrats had a majority, but it wasn't a super majority. They had Joe Lieberman, an independent who would voted with the Republicans. When Kennedy died, the really lost the super majority which meant they couldn't get it out of Cloture. They couldn't get the bill to the house floor.

    See, the new rule is you need 60 vote to get anything done. So, if the Willard wins, he will need 60 Republicans, and control of the house to get anything done. If that happens, I expect to see the Republican whine about how the Democrats are blocking everything they want to do. It will be the height of hypocrisy because the Republicans are blocking everything right now.

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  • JP 2012/04/18 02:22:21
    Undecided
    JP
    +1
    Cowards in search of talking points and class warfare talking points after the 2010 "shellacking".
  • no1badboy56 2012/04/18 00:50:26
    They were lazy...
    no1badboy56
    +2
    Heaven forbid, then they wouldn't have anything to whine about and would be to blame for increased taxes during a depression/recession.
  • apachehellfire65 2012/04/18 00:50:06
    They couldn't...
    apachehellfire65
    +3
    Because they did not want them to end any more then the republicans! am i the only one who has noticed the democrats keep EXTENDING everything they say bush did wrong? the war's, the tax cuts, the patriot act, gitmo detainment's, and just about everything else they campaigned against.
  • Mike 2012/04/17 23:46:54
    They couldn't...
    Mike
    +2
    Bush made sure the tax payer was taken care of until the people had time to vote the demogogs out of congress
  • Rebel Yell 2012/04/17 22:49:15
    They couldn't...
    Rebel Yell
    +3
    They had to wait for them to expire. Then they pitched a hissy fit, holding damn near everything hostage if the wealthy couldn't be taken care of first. Same ole, same ole. Republicans are so predictable. Take a look at Paul Ryan's budget plan, which the Republicans loooove. Romney can't quit talking about it. It's all the proof you need to see who is most important in America in the GOP's eyes. No doubt Paul Ryan had some help in writing up that plan.... from the Koch Bros. and Grover Norquist.
  • mich52 2012/04/17 22:24:06
  • DuncanONeil 2012/04/17 22:11:36
    Undecided
    DuncanONeil
    +3
    Because they knew it would be politically bad for them.
  • Denny 2012/04/17 21:33:14
    Undecided
    Denny
    +1
    They weren't nuts enough to raise the lower peons taxes by a bunch so they would never get elected again.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/04/17 20:35:09
    They couldn't...
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    They didn't have a super-majority and the republicans filibustered everything.
  • Charge Lady Wh... 2012/04/17 21:32:48
    Charge
    +2
    Well, if Obama wins, the tax cuts will expire Jan. 1, 2013 and we will have $500Billion in new taxes. Are You ready for that?
  • mich52 Charge 2012/04/17 22:25:25 (edited)
  • Charge mich52 2012/04/17 23:17:22 (edited)
    Charge
    +2
    Most of those tax cuts directly affect the low income and middle class of this country... not the rich. Not a good idea during Obama's recession.
    Bush cut individual income tax rates, reduced taxes on capital gains and dividends, cut the estate tax rate and raised its asset limit, trimmed taxes on business investment and boosted breaks for education, married couples and families with children.
  • mich52 Charge 2012/04/18 00:56:15
  • Charge mich52 2012/04/18 16:17:16
    Charge
    You just don't get it, it's not the tax cuts, it's that the current tax system has 47% of working Americans paying no taxes at all. The system needs to be fixed.... Tax credits that allow people not to pay no taxes will stay in place, things like the "Buffet Rule" accomplish absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
  • mich52 Charge 2012/04/18 18:31:51
  • Charge mich52 2012/04/18 19:09:29
    Charge
    Here is one for you, the people that need help the most get nothing... did you know that people with NO reportable
    income, (such as non-taxable social security, or a single mother that just has child support), gets absolutely NOTHING; they however still pay sales taxes etc.
    Where is the fairness in that?
    Refundable credits are only handed out if you earn income, not based on need.
  • mich52 Charge 2012/04/18 21:28:05
  • Charge mich52 2012/04/19 14:32:22
    Charge
    Interesting that social security and Child support don't count toward getting credits.
  • mich52 Lady Wh... 2012/04/18 00:57:12
  • Lady Wh... mich52 2012/04/18 09:56:27
    Lady Whitewolf
    true
  • john Kills 2012/04/17 19:27:46
    Undecided
    john Kills
    +3
    Barry and congress did not change any bush ( new world order ) policies. They extended and expanded the policies that barry still continues to blame. Some people are still dumb enough to not see that and support barry anyway.
  • Fred 2012/04/17 19:06:09
    Undecided
    Fred
    +3
    Because they knew Bush was right ...
  • Wolfman 2012/04/17 18:56:33
    Undecided
    Wolfman
    +2
    They were afraid of voter backlash.
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/04/17 18:56:07 (edited)
    Undecided
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +2
    They never intended to. Congress and the president are owned by big banks (Bailout) and major corporations (like GE that pays 0% in taxes). They will never do anything to hurt their masters' profits.



    As for whether the Bush tax cuts are are good thing. I dont know, because I'm no expert with our increasingly complex tax code (its length dwarfs all of Shakespeare's works combined). I think we should simply abolish income tax.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/04/17 18:55:34
    They were lazy...
    Kane Fernau
    +1
    GREAT QUESTION!!!
  • Splashfairy 2012/04/17 18:51:56
    Undecided
    Splashfairy
    +2
    They were afraid of how the 2010 elections would result. (And for good reason, too!) Besides, they are now packin' the punch on taxes in the name of fairness. You know...the Buffet Rule which will only bring in 5 Billion...just a drop in the bucket of our looming debt. They are probably so obsessed with what the next out of control spending project should be that as typical of the Dems..they've not taken the time or care to decide how to pay for it. To them, govt. spending is a blank check. They helped Bush spend the last 2 yrs. of his Presidency & they are helping Obama spend it now!
  • The Reaper 2012/04/17 18:40:45
    They were lazy...
    The Reaper
    +2
    Many times we elect ppl who just can't get the job done because just how comfortable those chairs are they sit in, this was the case with the democrats! senate
  • Kern 2012/04/17 18:40:43
    They couldn't...
    Kern
    +5
    I know that the Democrats had a majority, but it wasn't a super majority. They had Joe Lieberman, an independent who would voted with the Republicans. When Kennedy died, the really lost the super majority which meant they couldn't get it out of Cloture. They couldn't get the bill to the house floor.

    See, the new rule is you need 60 vote to get anything done. So, if the Willard wins, he will need 60 Republicans, and control of the house to get anything done. If that happens, I expect to see the Republican whine about how the Democrats are blocking everything they want to do. It will be the height of hypocrisy because the Republicans are blocking everything right now.
  • Kane Fe... Kern 2012/04/17 19:04:01
    Kane Fernau
    +2
    The Bush tax cuts expired at the end of 2011. They now are Obama's tax cuts.
  • Kern Kane Fe... 2012/04/17 19:31:42
    Kern
    +1
    First of all, thanks for agreeing with me in saying that the tax cuts are working. Why else would you shift blame to President Obama. Second, you know the Republicans were held the country captive by willing to let the country go into bankruptcy if the Tax cuts were left to die like they should have. The Republicans cried and whined about how the tax cuts would crush the economy.

    What was it that John "the crying man" Bohner said after the last time the Republicans wanted to not raise the debt limit so they could keep the Bush tax cuts intact? OH yeah, "I'm pretty happy because I got 98% of what I wanted." The result was a down grade of the country's credit rating.

    So go ahead and blame the Democrats for the tax cuts. That's all the more reason to get rid of them, right?
  • Kane Fe... Kern 2012/04/17 20:02:50
  • Kern Kane Fe... 2012/04/17 20:33:20
    Kern
    +2
    I like this thought process. The tax cuts relieved us of $3 trillion dollars we would have used to pay bills and pay down the national debt. Now that the Republican polices have sent this country into the toilet, we need to continue them.

    Like all Republicans, you tell half the story. Larry Summers was talking about extending the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. He didn't want the Democrats to get into a pissing contest with the Republicans and not extend the tax cuts for the middle class at the because the Republicans wanted the tax cuts for the wealthy also extended. Not extending the tax cuts for the middle class would have hurt the economy. Stopping the tax cuts for the wealthy would not have hurt the economy.

    The Republicans were looking for an all or nothing deal. Keep all of the tax cuts or none of them. Their leverage was extending unemployment benefits. The They wouldn't let the tax cuts for the wealth expire without taking the tax cuts away from everyone else. The Republicans said that we needed to let the "job creators" keep the money so they would create jobs.

    We know that giving tax cuts to the rich doesn't create jobs. How do I know? Ask Willard. How many jobs has Willard created with his Bush tax cuts? I'm guess none. Willard is not a "job creator."

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    I like this thought process. The tax cuts relieved us of $3 trillion dollars we would have used to pay bills and pay down the national debt. Now that the Republican polices have sent this country into the toilet, we need to continue them.

    Like all Republicans, you tell half the story. Larry Summers was talking about extending the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. He didn't want the Democrats to get into a pissing contest with the Republicans and not extend the tax cuts for the middle class at the because the Republicans wanted the tax cuts for the wealthy also extended. Not extending the tax cuts for the middle class would have hurt the economy. Stopping the tax cuts for the wealthy would not have hurt the economy.

    The Republicans were looking for an all or nothing deal. Keep all of the tax cuts or none of them. Their leverage was extending unemployment benefits. The They wouldn't let the tax cuts for the wealth expire without taking the tax cuts away from everyone else. The Republicans said that we needed to let the "job creators" keep the money so they would create jobs.

    We know that giving tax cuts to the rich doesn't create jobs. How do I know? Ask Willard. How many jobs has Willard created with his Bush tax cuts? I'm guess none. Willard is not a "job creator."

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news...
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  • Kane Fe... Kern 2012/04/17 20:58:21
  • Kern Kane Fe... 2012/04/17 21:09:06
    Kern
    +2
    And now we know that only the tax cuts for the middle and lower class would help because the wealthy "job creators" simply put the money in the bank. Larry Summers was wrong in thinking that tax cuts for the wealthy would do any good. Correct? Correct. See link above.
  • Kane Fe... Kern 2012/04/17 22:42:42
  • Kern Kane Fe... 2012/04/18 02:30:14
    Kern
    This article tells me a lot of things. For one, the Republicans have been lying when they say Obama has raised taxes. The Republicans were unwilling to work with the Democrats on anything. The Bush tax cut put a 3 trillion dollar hole in the federal budget and did nothing to compensate for it.

    It also tells me that, since the Republican policies destroyed the economy, we are stuck in a hole that cannot be fixed by simply cutting spending.

    I would be in favor of letting the tax cuts for the wealthy expire because, as we all know, they don't use to create jobs. Keeping tax incentives for people who do create jobs, manufacturing should be kept in place. I could care less about the estate tax going up.

    Finally, the Republicans will try to shut down the government once again but are at a disadvantage this round. I would be willing to be control of the government that Obama's polices, which are not very liberal will be better for the economy than Romney's. All Romney wants to do is give himself a giant tax cut, like he needs more money to put into an offshore account.
  • Kane Fe... Kern 2012/04/18 04:18:17
  • Kern Kane Fe... 2012/04/18 14:07:20
    Kern
    You are crazy. You tell me a lot in tha short paragraph.

    You admit that he Democrats are willing to work with the Republicans. The Republicans are not willing ot work with President Obama. So blaming the Democrats for compramising with Bush is stupid. The Republicans had controll of both houses and the White House. Now that your polices have sent the country down a rat hole, it's not your fault?

    The recession Bush inherited was worse than what Obama inhetited? Really, you're going to run with that? Did Bush inherit an economy that was losing 750,000 jobs a month? Did Bush's economy shrink by 9%? No. If you're going to state something, please stick to reality.

    Have fun in la la land.
  • Kane Fe... Kern 2012/04/18 15:44:18 (edited)
    Kane Fernau
    Dude., What rock do you live under? Obamacare is the perfect example of democrats working with Republicans. Obama's regime has zero answers to economic problems except RAISE TAXES. The recession wasn't worse the 9/11 terrorist that Bush inherited attack cost the country $3.3 Trillion. The economy was going strong in 2006. Then democrats took control of the House and Senate leaving Bush a lame duck. 2 years after dems took control they created the 2008 Financial Meltdown.

    Greedy Wall Street Investment Bankers /Deregulation of the financial industry

    Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the CRA

    Poor people buying houses they can’t afford.
  • Kern Kane Fe... 2012/04/18 17:58:57
    Kern
    What policies did the Democrats force Bush to pass that pushed the economy down the toilet?

    From what I've read, 911 cost between $280 billion to $5 trillion over the last 10 years, so thanks for not padding the numbers. What it didn't cost is 8 million jobs. The collapse of the housing marker and the collapse of the financial industry cost the country 8 million jobs.

    The housing crises was caused by the Gramm Blily act, put into Clinton's last budget. It destroyed the firewall setup by the Glass Steagal act. Because of the Gramm Blily act, financial institutions like Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers were able to split sub prime mortgages into derivatives which the financial institution were selling to everyone. It's called Republican deregulation.

    Mortgages back by CRA regulations 70% less likely to go into foreclosure.

    http://www.businessweek.com/i...

    President Obama has lowered taxes. Taxes are at a 60 year low. He lowered taxes on small business 17 times. He lowered taxes for middle the lower and middle class.

    How many Republicans voted for Obama Care? 1 House Republican House member and 2 Republican Senators voted for Obama care. Not exactly a bipartisan vote, is it.

    The next we go to war, maybe, just maybe cutting taxing and increasing spending will be looked at as a bad...
    What policies did the Democrats force Bush to pass that pushed the economy down the toilet?

    From what I've read, 911 cost between $280 billion to $5 trillion over the last 10 years, so thanks for not padding the numbers. What it didn't cost is 8 million jobs. The collapse of the housing marker and the collapse of the financial industry cost the country 8 million jobs.

    The housing crises was caused by the Gramm Blily act, put into Clinton's last budget. It destroyed the firewall setup by the Glass Steagal act. Because of the Gramm Blily act, financial institutions like Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers were able to split sub prime mortgages into derivatives which the financial institution were selling to everyone. It's called Republican deregulation.

    Mortgages back by CRA regulations 70% less likely to go into foreclosure.

    http://www.businessweek.com/i...

    President Obama has lowered taxes. Taxes are at a 60 year low. He lowered taxes on small business 17 times. He lowered taxes for middle the lower and middle class.

    How many Republicans voted for Obama Care? 1 House Republican House member and 2 Republican Senators voted for Obama care. Not exactly a bipartisan vote, is it.

    The next we go to war, maybe, just maybe cutting taxing and increasing spending will be looked at as a bad idea. But that will only happen if we don't have a borrow and spend Republican in the White House. On average, Democratic presidents grow the economy more than Republican presidents. Look it up.
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