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Why can't the Chinese come up with an original idea?

Shigyrl but outspoken on my future 2012/03/15 02:02:48
Came across this article about chinese students knocking off Victoria Secret lingerie show. The article talks about how this is not uncommon. I have to wonder does their restrictive culture limit free thinking? Does it make them so incapable of thinking outside the box. They must steal the ideas of others who are not so limited. Here is an article about the student version of Victoria Secret show. http://m.minyanville.com/?guid=5072&catid;=5
Makes you wonder why our society is pushing towards a one size fits all model. Intentionally stifling creativity.
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  • Flamingolady 2012/03/17 19:11:10
    Flamingolady
    +1
    They depend on someone else coming up with an idea, and then stealing it and making it so cheaply that we are stupid enough to buy it.
  • Shigyrl... Flaming... 2012/03/17 19:12:37
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Unfortunately you are right.
  • Centurion~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/16 15:06:33
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I would say that the Chinese culture of the past hundred years or so is what restricts free thinking. Now it seems that they copy better than innovate.
  • Shigyrl... Centuri... 2012/03/16 23:58:10
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +1
    Exactly
  • Muskoka 2012/03/16 06:31:30
    Muskoka
    WTF, the chinese invented paper, gun powder, the compass, silk, pasta, abacus,first reed instrument, the bamboo pipe, Seed Drill, Iron Plows, Deep Drilling, Ship’s Rudder, Harness for Horses, Porcelain, Toilet Paper, Printing – movable type,Mechanical Clock. That list is just off the top of my head without thinking. There are many many more.

    Perhaps you have never heard of the Great Wall of China, the ornate chinese art and statues and highly decorated silk fabric that is exported all over the planet.

    The sciences of astronomy, physics, chemistry, meteorology, seismology, technology, engineering, and mathematics can trace their early origins to China.
  • Shigyrl... Muskoka 2012/03/16 14:56:03
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    You were good till you got to the sciences. Even I know much of that came from the middle east. I'm not disputing their past. What have they done in modern times that was not stolen from someone else. Can you provide that?
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 00:22:33
    Muskoka
    Those things did not come from the middle east at all. From 600 AD until 1500 AD, China was the world's most technologically advanced society.

    You seem to dismiss all the hugely significant discoveries made by the Chinese, and think that only modern discoveries are important. Without the base to rely on, those modern inventions and discoveries would never be here at all. China also produced many great philosophers through out the ages. They were free thinkers and advanced human thought.

    You attitude speaks volumes of bias. It would appear as though your mind has been stifled and has no way of valuing the contributions of other nations at all.

    computerized laser photocomposition
    complete synthesis of bovine insulin
    Hybrid rice
    the walkman
    Karaoke e
    umbrellas
    all marshal arts
    Chinos (or khakis)
    noodles
    Flip flops
    Soy milk/tofu
    tea
  • Shigyrl... Muskoka 2012/03/17 15:26:44
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    I have great respect for the contributions of other nations. I have a deep dislike of lies and half truths. You did that assuming I would not check your claims. The chinese cannot lay claim to much of the science you mentioned. As other cultures were making similar discoveries. The computerized photocomposition laser. Was for type setting chinese letters. The actual printer was invented elsewhere. The Walkman is a japanese invention. Karaoke is linked to a man in Taiwan. Martial arts has many variations around the world. They were developed in the various cultures. As for khaki's they were an indian invention. The name is derived from a arabic word khak meaning dust colored. Flip flops old invention. Soy milk not a fan. Since I'm not a vegan tofu is not part of my diet. Nor is it part of the diet of the majority of the world. So the next time you want to jump bad. I suggest you be honest. Your last one gives you very little credibility.
  • RogerRover 2012/03/16 04:07:44
    RogerRover
    +1
    Maybe our Yankee ingenuity is our 'ace in the hole'...They nearly own us because of our foolish debt, but they can't annihilate us or they destroy the patents and products they routinely steal.
  • Shigyrl... RogerRover 2012/03/16 05:15:40
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +1
    Exactly
  • RogerRover Shigyrl... 2012/03/16 11:56:46
    RogerRover
    +1
    To observe present trends which include exploitation of patents or products and human rights insensitivity is valid. To note that a system of government can and does hamper creativity is also generally true. I'm sure you do not want to incite division based on ethnicity. All backgrounds have historically been endowed with amazing gifts, talents and inspiration from our Maker.
  • Muskoka RogerRover 2012/03/16 06:32:19
    Muskoka
    WTF, the chinese invented paper, gun powder, the compass, silk, pasta, abacus,first reed instrument, the bamboo pipe, Seed Drill, Iron Plows, Deep Drilling, Ship’s Rudder, Harness for Horses, Porcelain, Toilet Paper, Printing – movable type,Mechanical Clock. That list is just off the top of my head without thinking. There are many many more.

    Perhaps you have never heard of the Great Wall of China, the ornate chinese art and statues and highly decorated silk fabric that is exported all over the planet.

    The sciences of astronomy, physics, chemistry, meteorology, seismology, technology, engineering, and mathematics can trace their early origins to China.
  • Angi 2012/03/16 00:19:25
    Angi
    +1
    China has a history of past innovation.
  • Shigyrl... Angi 2012/03/16 03:55:29
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Key word in your statement is history. What have the chinese developed since the onset of communism. That was not a knock off of someone else's innovative mind. Kung fu movies don't count.
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/16 06:32:45
    Muskoka
    You really have not done any research at all.
  • Shigyrl... Muskoka 2012/03/16 14:58:52
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    I was asking about modern ideas. You apparently are stuck in the past. Everyone knows they are known for bootlegging others ideas.
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 00:26:55
    Muskoka
    I think you have forgotten that America is the rip off capital of the world and has taken that concept to new heights with the down loading and pirating of music & videos remaking of designer clothing as well.

    You are completely closed minded and bigoted.
  • Shigyrl... Muskoka 2012/03/17 15:28:06
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Lmao really is that so? You better think again. The chinese own that distinction. Have so for a long time.
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 00:29:32
    Muskoka
    YOUR MIND IS STUCK IN NEUTRAL.


    In January 2005, 584 CAS and CAE academicians voted these accomplishments as 2004's Top 10 Advances in Science and Technology:

    1. The 10,000 Gigaflop supercomputer, one of the world's top-10 supercomputers. Developed by the CAS Institute of Computing Technology, the Dawning Corporation and the Shanghai Supercomputer Center, the Dawning 4000A went into operation on 15th November 2004 in Shanghai, making China the third country to develop commercial 10,000 Gigaflop supercomputer capability.

    2. The first totally Chinese commercial nuclear power plant. The first such plant to be designed, built, managed and operated with exclusively Chinese resources-- Qinshan Nuclear Power Plant Phase 2, Unit 2 -- formally went into commercial use on 3rd May 2004.

    3. Commercial operation of the West-East Gas Pipeline. On 30th December 2004, after more than four years in construction, the 4,000 km-long channel conveying natural gas from West to East China went into commercial use. The delivery of this facility involved over 7,000 scientific and technological challenges, and deployed many high-tech techniques and facilities.

    4. Opening of the first trunk net of the next generation Internet. On 25th December 2004, the trunk net of the CERNET 2 of the China Next Generat...











    YOUR MIND IS STUCK IN NEUTRAL.


    In January 2005, 584 CAS and CAE academicians voted these accomplishments as 2004's Top 10 Advances in Science and Technology:

    1. The 10,000 Gigaflop supercomputer, one of the world's top-10 supercomputers. Developed by the CAS Institute of Computing Technology, the Dawning Corporation and the Shanghai Supercomputer Center, the Dawning 4000A went into operation on 15th November 2004 in Shanghai, making China the third country to develop commercial 10,000 Gigaflop supercomputer capability.

    2. The first totally Chinese commercial nuclear power plant. The first such plant to be designed, built, managed and operated with exclusively Chinese resources-- Qinshan Nuclear Power Plant Phase 2, Unit 2 -- formally went into commercial use on 3rd May 2004.

    3. Commercial operation of the West-East Gas Pipeline. On 30th December 2004, after more than four years in construction, the 4,000 km-long channel conveying natural gas from West to East China went into commercial use. The delivery of this facility involved over 7,000 scientific and technological challenges, and deployed many high-tech techniques and facilities.

    4. Opening of the first trunk net of the next generation Internet. On 25th December 2004, the trunk net of the CERNET 2 of the China Next Generation Internet (CNGI) was officially opened, signaling the start of the all-around construction of the next-generation Internet.

    5. Realization of the Double Star Satellite Program with the successful launch of the TC-2 satellite. On 25th July 2004, China launched the TC-2 satellite from the Long March II C Carrier Rocket from Taiyuan Launch Center, thus completing the Double Star Satellite Program proposed in 1997. The program, together with European Space Agency's Cluster II Program, is the first ever to probe geospace three-dimensionally from six points.

    6. Manufacture of "super-switch" nano materials. The CAS Chemistry Research Institute achieved reversible transformation between super-hydrophobic and super-hydrophilic surface materials of nanometer structure by adjusting "light" and "temperature", and produced "switch" materials, a major research advance in the field of functional nanometer interface materials.

    7. Manufacture of a high accuracy underwater positioning navigation system. Developed by the China Topography Research Institute and other organizations, at 45 meters under water, its level positioning precision reaches 5 cm, and its sound precision 30 cm. China is one of the few countries to have mastered this technology.

    8. Solution of the membrane protein crystal structure problem. In the field of photosynthesis mechanism there was great progress in the work on "crystal structure of the main complexes for catching light in spinach (LHC-II)". This is the first important photosynthesis membrane protein crystal structure, determined by Chinese scientists through six years' work and solving an acknowledged problem in leading edge technology.

    9. Important breakthrough in quantum information experimentation. The University of Science and Technology of China realized stealth transformation of cinque-particle entanglement and open-ended quantum states, showing that China has entered the international advanced level in multi-entanglement research.

    10. Breakthrough in oil and gas resource strategic investigation. Preliminary figures from all-around strategic investigation into oil and gas resources within China's territorial waters estimate them at over 40 billion tons oil equivalence -- particularly in the huge areas of heavy Mesozoic layer found in deep water areas of the South China Sea, with a sedimentary layer over ten thousand meters deep. This points the way for further oil and gas prospecting in deep water areas.
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  • Shigyrl... Muskoka 2012/03/17 15:29:59
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    How many of those scientist were educated and taught to think outside the box. In US universities. I am willing to bet just about everyone of them. Next
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 20:45:10
    Muskoka
    In American the average student is illiterate and has one of the poorest acedemic standard of accreditation in the industrial world. As well the IQ levels in the US is also lower than most other countries as well in the same group

    On the IQ, American rate 19th on the world standard, China rates 12th


    " After leading the world for decades in 25- to 34-year-olds with university degrees, the country sank to 12th place in 2010. The World Economic Forum ranked the United States at a mediocre 52nd among 139 nations in the quality of its university math and science instruction in 2010. Nearly half of all graduate students in the sciences in the U.S. are now foreigners, most of whom will be heading home, not staying here as once would have happened. By 2025, in other words, the United States is likely to face a critical shortage of talented scientists.

    It gets worse:

    Under current projections, the United States will find itself in second place behind China (already the world’s second largest economy) in economic output around 2026, and behind India by 2050. Similarly, Chinese innovation is on a trajectory toward world leadership in applied science and military technology sometime between 2020 and 2030, just as America’s current supply of brilliant scientists and engineers retires, w...

    In American the average student is illiterate and has one of the poorest acedemic standard of accreditation in the industrial world. As well the IQ levels in the US is also lower than most other countries as well in the same group

    On the IQ, American rate 19th on the world standard, China rates 12th


    " After leading the world for decades in 25- to 34-year-olds with university degrees, the country sank to 12th place in 2010. The World Economic Forum ranked the United States at a mediocre 52nd among 139 nations in the quality of its university math and science instruction in 2010. Nearly half of all graduate students in the sciences in the U.S. are now foreigners, most of whom will be heading home, not staying here as once would have happened. By 2025, in other words, the United States is likely to face a critical shortage of talented scientists.

    It gets worse:

    Under current projections, the United States will find itself in second place behind China (already the world’s second largest economy) in economic output around 2026, and behind India by 2050. Similarly, Chinese innovation is on a trajectory toward world leadership in applied science and military technology sometime between 2020 and 2030, just as America’s current supply of brilliant scientists and engineers retires, without adequate replacement by an ill-educated younger generation."

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/j...
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  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 20:53:37
    Muskoka
    The only think you have in your claim to fame if bigotry and the fact that you simply cannot think outside of you rnarrow mind on anything are are refusing to accept anyting the chinese do at all. You have not done any research at all, to find any truth either and have completely ignorned the FACTS.

    You are part of the dumbed down generations.
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 00:31:57
    Muskoka
    In the November issue of Nature, Chinese scientist Shu Degan and his colleagues released their findings of a new kingdom of extinct organisms leading to the birth of vertebrates.

    The findings were based on fossils found at the world-famous Chengjiang Fauna in South China.

    This is the sixth time Nature has published Shu's findings relating to Chengjiang Fauna, where traces of the "Cambrian Explosion of life" have been found.

    In the May issue of Science, Chinese scientists released their discovery of a new mammal living 195 million years ago, pushing back the universally believed time of mammals' emergence by 45 million years.

    Shu's "finds have rewritten the early history of mammals," the report said.

    Also in the same issue, Chinese scientist Li Jianghai published his findings in North China with his United States collaborators of the oldest rock on Earth, a piece of serpentine that came into being 2.5 billion years ago.

    http://www.china.org.cn/engli...
  • Muskoka Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 00:34:25
    Muskoka
    YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT ABOUT THE FACT OF THE SCIENTIFIC DEVELOPMENTS IN CHINA - THE ARE ONE OF THE WORLD LEADERS.

    "Science is rising in the east. China's strategies for economic development, which are centred on creating a world-beating science base, don't sound like much. They go by odd names: the 863 Programme and Project 211, for instance, and the Torch and Spark programmes. But they are proving to be more powerful than even the Chinese government could have hoped.

    Last year, following a decade of phenomenal growth, China became the second-biggest producer of scientific knowledge in the world. In 1998, Chinese scientists published about 20,000 articles. In 2009, they produced more than 120,000. Only the US turns out more.

    According to figures released this year by the US National Science Foundation, there are now as many researchers working in China as there are working in the US or the EU. The state is encouraging Chinese scientists trained in the west to return home, offering them enormous salaries and access to world-class laboratories. In 2008, for example, the molecular biologist Yigong Shi, one of Princeton University's rising stars, walked away from a $10m research grant to set up a lab at Tsinghua University in Beijing. In January, the Chinese equivalent of the U...





    YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT ABOUT THE FACT OF THE SCIENTIFIC DEVELOPMENTS IN CHINA - THE ARE ONE OF THE WORLD LEADERS.

    "Science is rising in the east. China's strategies for economic development, which are centred on creating a world-beating science base, don't sound like much. They go by odd names: the 863 Programme and Project 211, for instance, and the Torch and Spark programmes. But they are proving to be more powerful than even the Chinese government could have hoped.

    Last year, following a decade of phenomenal growth, China became the second-biggest producer of scientific knowledge in the world. In 1998, Chinese scientists published about 20,000 articles. In 2009, they produced more than 120,000. Only the US turns out more.

    According to figures released this year by the US National Science Foundation, there are now as many researchers working in China as there are working in the US or the EU. The state is encouraging Chinese scientists trained in the west to return home, offering them enormous salaries and access to world-class laboratories. In 2008, for example, the molecular biologist Yigong Shi, one of Princeton University's rising stars, walked away from a $10m research grant to set up a lab at Tsinghua University in Beijing. In January, the Chinese equivalent of the US National Institutes of Health was unveiled with £150m in its pockets, which will be distributed to new medical research projects.

    “China is focusing on developing an elite group of institutions and the performance of these is going to go on improving," says Jonathan Adams, director of research evaluation at Thomson Reuters in London and lead author of a 2009 report into China's scientific research strategies and achievements.

    If present trends continue, China will be the world leader in science by the end of this decade. "There's going to be a new geography," Adams says. "The map that people have in their minds of where science is taking place will have to be adjusted." Scientists working in the west need to react, according to Xiaoqin Wang, director of a biomedical engineering centre that Johns Hopkins University runs jointly with Tsing­hua University. "Collaboration will become more and more important," he says.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/a...
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  • Shigyrl... Muskoka 2012/03/17 15:41:54
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Like I said from the beginning. How much of said information was stolen. It is a well known fact that Clinton allowed the chinese to access previously protected information. Based on the dates given for some of their so called discoveries. They coincide with his presidency. I am sure more collaboration is around the corner and it is happening now. Last year with the colanoration between homeschoolers from new Zealand and chinese students. Who together beat homeschoolers from the US. In a robotics competition.
  • Angi Shigyrl... 2012/03/16 18:20:30
    Angi
    Well there must be something good there because a lot of companies set up there. But the some of those past innovations in the past mean we have the technologies we have today. Also considering how much the US is lending from China, communism seems to be working for China.
  • Shigyrl... Angi 2012/03/17 00:04:12
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Its called cheap labor and very little regulation. Which is why companies set up over there. Not to mention no unions. Their innovations were a template or precursor to some of todays ideas. Not all of them. Some are so far removed from todays innovations they don't matter. It is not communism that is working for them. It is allowing capitalism to grow and flourish. While maintaining some controls. Communism made them poor.
  • Angi Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 15:42:14
    Angi
    It's a communist country. I know that China is run on cheap labour and poor working conditions, so in that much I agree with you. But I would not dismiss China's past innovations. It's a irony I suppose that one of the biggest capitalist countries borrows money from a communist regime.
  • Shigyrl... Angi 2012/03/17 15:51:31
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Actually it is not ironic. When you have the Manchurian candidate for a president. He is intentionally trying to destroy our economy. China is far from being a communist regime. Especially with the way they embrace capitalism. They have a growing middle class. Their citizens write to my president because they can't to their own. Stating they want to be like Americans. Just saying....
  • Angi Shigyrl... 2012/03/17 15:54:19
    Angi
    The are run by a communist regime.
  • Shigyrl... Angi 2012/03/17 19:15:54
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    Who is becoming more capitalist everyday. In a generation they will rebel like tianimen square. Which interestingly enough is not taught about in their schools. Much like the communist in education here. That are not teaching American history in its entirety
  • Angi Shigyrl... 2012/03/18 14:40:11
    Angi
    +1
    Communist country taking advantage of capitalist markets. They wont teach that in China because they are a communist state. I will resist the urge to get involved in a US history debate, lol.
  • Shigyrl... Angi 2012/03/19 00:32:06
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +1
    As a Homeschool parent taught in the American liberal public education system. I am discovering so much missing history. I am passing it specifically to my 9 year-old right now.
  • Angi Shigyrl... 2012/03/19 19:54:26
    Angi
    +1
    History is a fascinating subject and we can all learn lessons from historic events, makes little sense leaving things out. I have a 9 year old as well and she loves history.
  • Shigyrl... Angi 2012/03/19 20:05:09
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +1
    Yes we can. Especially to avoid the same mistakes.
  • Angi Shigyrl... 2012/03/19 20:26:36
    Angi
    +1
    Agreed.
  • jr 2012/03/15 02:40:20
    jr
    +1
    The freedom to be creative is not as much present in China as it is here in the US, but Obama is quickly trying to change this
  • Shigyrl... jr 2012/03/15 04:35:08
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +1
    I think he has been encouraged to do so.
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/03/15 02:27:18
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +1
    The difference between Chinese students and USA progressives is that the Chinese have original thoughts and ideas. Not so with the progressives. ALL ideas originate in the WH and the DNC. Thinking outside the box is NOT allowed.
  • Shigyrl... CUDDLY ... 2012/03/15 04:38:14
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    I don't think you get the purpose of this poll. The chinese students weren't being original. They actually copied the creative ideas of a multi-million dollar lingerie company. Then presented the fashion show as if they were their own ideas. Where as americans are known for their innovative ideas.

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