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Why are the worst mass murderers from the left?

☆astac☆~PWCM 2013/03/03 04:46:57
The worst mass murderers from the twentieth century and possibly for all time
were Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Hitler - all left wing dictators.

Did I
say Hitler? I think that most people would not object to my calling Mao, Stalin
and Pol Pot left wing dictators. But Hitler? Many people think of him as a right
wing dictator but that is not correct. Why is Hitler a creature of the
left?

To begin with, the Nazi party stands for the German Workers'
National Socialist Party. Hitler claimed in a speech on May 1, 1927:



"We
are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the
exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its
unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of
responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system
under all conditions
."

The Nazi Party campaigned on a recognisably
leftist platform. Here is an excerpt from the 1920 Nazi party
manifesto:

"10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work
mentally or physically. The activities of the individual may not clash with the
interests of the whole, but must proceed within the frame of the community and
be for the general good.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all
unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.


12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in life and
property, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as a crime
against the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war
profits whether in assets or material.

13. We demand the nationalization
of businesses which have been organized into cartels.

14. We demand that
all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand
extensive development of provision for old age.

16. We demand the
creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the immediate
communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply to small
businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen for
provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.


17. We demand a land reform in accordance with our national
requirements, and the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without
compensation any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground
rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land
."

The party
manifesto does not call for free market capitalism. Calling for nationalization,
confiscation of land are things that Socialists or Communists call for. Of
course, you can say that Hitler or any votrepreneur (politician) will say
anything to gain power. His rhetoric gained him the support of mostly lower
income and middle income Germans. Ultimately, its what he did that counts.
Action speaks louder than words. So what did Hitler do when he came to
power?

Hitler took over control of nearly all means of production like a
good Socialist or Communist would. He did not nationalize all assets of
production like what Lenin or Mao did. The nominal ownership was left in private
hands. But the substance of ownership passed to the state.

This is
explained in an article by George
Reisman writing for the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Drawing on the writings of
the great economist, Ludwig Von Mises, Reisman explained why Nazism is Socialism
and why Socialism leads to totalitarianism.

When Hitler took power in
Germany, the "owners" of assets of production (eg factories, farms etc) had
every major economic decision decided for him by the state. The state (or some
central planning bureaucrat) told you how many workers you must employ, how much
to pay them, how much to charge for your products and services and how much
dividends the owners get. The government also practiced wage and price controls
in 1936.

(The government had to impose wage and price controls because of
the runaway inflation as a result of increasing of its money supply to fund its
huge programs of public works, subsidies and rearmament. To keep the people
happy, he gave them cheap subsidised holidays to the Alps and the Canary
Islands. )

When your rights to your "property" such as a factory or farm
or rental apartments etc are so eroded, the state effectively owns them. You are
"owner" in name only. Thus I would put the Nazi party left of say the British
Labor Party but right of the Communist Party of Soviet Union.

Since Mao,
Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin were people who claim to be Socialist or Communist,
is there something in Socialism that leads to totalitarian government?


The answer is a yes.

I will sum up the arguments. Firstly,
Socialism calls for state control of all means of production. This means that
all workshops, farms, factories etc are to be controlled by the state. What to
produce and how much will be centrally planned.

The state will decide
what to produce, how much to produce and sell at what price. It has no way of
telling what consumers want. In a capitalist economy, all these questions will
be settled by the market as each individual pursues his own self interest. If a
product is in demand, then its price will go up.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/fanaticism-mass-murder-and-the...

Fanaticism, mass murder and the left

All the totemic creeds of today’s ‘progressive’ classes -- environmentalism, egalitarianism, multiculturalism, anti-Zionism and so on --- are millenarian, in that they all posit in their different ways the perfection of the world (just like, in their time, the Inquisition, Stalinism and fascism).

Consequently, today’s militantly secular leftists display some astonishing similarities to both modern-day Islamists and medieval Christian fanatics. There is the same belief in the Revealed Truth – Revealed, that is, to them alone – from which no-one is permitted to dissent. Anyone who denies it is a heretic and has to be destroyed. Because the left believes it embodies virtue -- on account of its desire to perfect the world – anyone who dissents or opposes it is evil. Because it is Manichean, all who are not left-wing are right-wing (even if they are in fact liberal). So all who oppose the left are evil right-wingers who must be destroyed. That to leftists is a moral project.

They are therefore in effect a modern secular Inquisition. They are in the same mould as the religious and political totalitarian tyrannies of the past; they make in this respect common cause with the Islamists whose agenda poses a mortal threat to their own lives and liberties and most cherished beliefs; and they share the characteristic of a closed thought system which is totally impervious to reason and destroys all who challenge it with the monsters of history and Anders Behring Breivik.

http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html

Left-Wing Bloodbaths


Radical leftists would have us believe that they stand for democracy,
progress, human rights and social justice. But when they seize power, they
introduce slavery, terror, famine, concentration camps and mass murder. As the
Marxists used to say, this is no accident.

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  • Mike56 2013/03/03 09:38:21
    Mike56
    +5
    The left are trying to impose inhumane regimes. First (with the help of morons from media, entertainment, judicial and academia) they manage to fool many people in believing in the "noble cause". But later, even some zombified people start realizing the nature of the catastrophe the left are bringing. So, the left have nothing left but to get rid of those who "know too much".

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  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2013/03/09 06:44:34 (edited)
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +1
    Excellent Astac!... Interesting that Hiltler, Mao and Stalin were all communist lefties.... Obama the last 4 years has been working hard on getting complete control of the MW farmers.
  • debrarae POTL _ PWCM 2013/03/07 03:48:36
    debrarae POTL _ PWCM
    +2
    Thank you so much for sharing this one.
  • Seonag 2013/03/05 14:16:39
    Seonag
    +3
    What the left fails to mention is that members of the Nazi Party in Germany and the Communist Party in the USSR had better pay, housing, more food and more 'perks' than the average citizen. And, unlike here where you can send in your dues and become a member of a political party, you had to be APPROVED to join either of those parties. Basically, it was no different that what they accuse the 'rich' of doing.
  • shadow76 2013/03/04 20:47:41
    shadow76
    +3
    The lefties do not want to admit that Hitler was left too because they keep trying to pin natzis to the right.
  • Tylurr 2013/03/04 09:36:34
    Tylurr
    +2
    You're an idiot.

    Political analysis (Or in your case, a little formal research) suggests otherwise. Nazism stems from German nationalism and the Völkisch movement, both of which place as a far Right ideology (Source: Two separate books: "Stormtroopers and Crisis in the Nazi Movement: Activism, Ideology and Dissolution." by Thomas D. Grant and "The Politics of Cultural Despair: A Study in the Rise of the Germanic Ideology" by Fritz Richard Stern, who is actually a German historian. Read a book once in a while) There's a reason that Russia sided with the Allies during WWII, and it sure wasn't because we were buddies with them.

    But, good try. Hey, when do you plan on restudying government and political structure? Or are you just going to keep letting Faux News spoon feed you everything?

    Why are you all so stupid

    Inb4 I either get blocked or swamped with rage. Deal with it, both parties are responsible for terrible things. Hold the person accountable, not the political party. Unless we want to bring back some crusades, too?
  • ☆astac☆... Tylurr 2013/03/04 13:30:39
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +2
    Sorry, you are wrong, Fascism, is on the left wing, hitler was a leftist
  • Tylurr ☆astac☆... 2013/03/05 02:26:38
    Tylurr
    Right.

    So, now that we're all aware of the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about, let's discuss some basic facts.

    Fascism is on the OPPOSITE END of the spectrum to Communism, which is an extremist Left belief. It's defined as radical nationalism, i.e. love our country or get out/die.

    It was founded during the WWI era, combining a small, small portion of Leftist beliefs with the Right's ethics. Other end of the spectrum to Communism, Socialism, and Liberal Democracy.

    Unfortunately, your ear seems to be superglued to Faux News' arsehole, but in case you feel like learning a thing or two, do some of your own research, or at least teach your children to fact check; at least your statements could be an example of what NOT to do.

    Also, you completely missed the entire point, which is really not surprising.
  • Annie~P... Tylurr 2013/03/09 06:46:45
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    Better study up, fascism
  • Tylurr Annie~P... 2013/03/12 02:57:09
    Tylurr
    Really, a week, and this is the best people can come up with?

    Read a textbook. Do some research.
  • desk.jock 2013/03/03 22:42:58
    desk.jock
    +3
    because liberalism is a mental disorder.
  • ☆astac☆... desk.jock 2013/03/04 13:30:50
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +3
    That it is
  • nails 2013/03/03 18:13:28
    nails
    +3
    They are dark and decieving individuals.John Wayne Gacy alway's come's to mind when
    this fact arise's.A senior Democratic official to boot john wayne gacy clown make up john wayne gacy and rosiland carter
  • goatman112003 2013/03/03 17:51:04
    goatman112003
    +2
    Why is it that we learn nothing from history and repeat it every so many years with the same crap which results in bloodbaths and terror and to fool us they revise history and claim this is the correct form.
  • GAC 2013/03/03 15:51:59
    GAC
    +3
    The reason why Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 was not because of ideological differences of the parties that ruled the two nations, but due to the preconceived notion of racial supremacy over the Slavs. Hitler believed that the Germans were racially superior to Russians and for that reason assumed that Russia would be easily conquered and later colonized. That proved not to be the case, needless to say, and only served to stretch Germany's resources into a two-front war, ultimately leading to the country's defeat. Although there are some distinctions between Communism and Fascism, they both demand great centralization of government, massive regulation of industry, and redistribution of wealth. Therefore, both ideologies should be classified as left-wing. Great post astac.
  • ☆astac☆... GAC 2013/03/03 16:22:00
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +3
    Thank you
  • JT For Political Reform 2013/03/03 15:38:28
    JT For Political Reform
    +2
    How many times have we heard those words "unfair salaries" coming from the left in today's America? Look how they piled on people like Romney while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Gore and so many other lefties were stealing money, making millions upon millions, hiding their money in off shore accounts etc., the problem with the dimwit left is they think it's OK when their side does it. The most troubling thing is, they think there is a side instead of variance of all people from right to left.
  • Plantgypc 2013/03/03 14:43:26
    Plantgypc
    +3
    I have noticed many left wings who have become murderers here in the USA. I am beginning to think that it is a plot on the left to bring about what they want. This is control by disarmorment. They wonder why gun sales have gone up almost 78% this year.
  • ☆astac☆... Plantgypc 2013/03/03 16:22:57
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +2
    Not even counting what is going on with the black market guns
  • KilrQueen 2013/03/03 14:26:27
    KilrQueen
    +3
    Having ultimate power over people does nothing but corrupt to the highest extent possible...the ones with that power begin to see themselves as a god, they think they are all knowing when the truth of the matter is they know nothing!!
  • Mike56 2013/03/03 09:38:21
    Mike56
    +5
    The left are trying to impose inhumane regimes. First (with the help of morons from media, entertainment, judicial and academia) they manage to fool many people in believing in the "noble cause". But later, even some zombified people start realizing the nature of the catastrophe the left are bringing. So, the left have nothing left but to get rid of those who "know too much".
  • ☆astac☆... Mike56 2013/03/03 16:23:36
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +2
    This is what hitler did in the 1930's in Germany
  • electricdude 2013/03/03 06:14:52
    electricdude
    Maybe you should do a bit more research because Hitler himself hated both Communists and Socialists and pretty much anyone on the left for that matter. The Nazi party was a Fascist political organization that allied itself with all the other Fascist governments in Europe at that time (Italy, Portugal, Vichy France, and Spain).
    As for your argument about "left wing dictators" I suggest you look up some leaders like Augusto Pinochet, Anastasio Somoza, Fransisco Franco, José Efraín Ríos Montt, and António de Oliveira Salazar to name a few and tell me the the right hasn't had it's fair share of dictators and bloodbaths.
  • Mike56 electri... 2013/03/03 09:34:20
    Mike56
    +3
    Fascists (created by former Italian Socialist party member Mussolini) were also leftists. Franco was not fascist.
    All rightists combined were responsible for a tiny fraction of the "enemies of the people" a single leftist icon would boast about murdering.
  • electri... Mike56 2013/03/03 20:46:48
    electricdude
    +1
    Okay then whatever you want to believe! I'll just say one thing look up Josip Broz Tito and the Socialist/Communist partisans in southern Europe and also the Republican forces in Spain and then tell me which two Fascist countries were the ones that furiously fought these guys.
    Oh and also do me a favor and tell someone who survived the death camps in Guatemala or Chile that their leaders really weren't that bad and only killed a "tiny fraction" of people.
  • Mike56 electri... 2013/03/04 06:58:36
    Mike56
    +2
    Unlike you, I am looking for truth, not what fits certain believes.
    Spiders like to fight each other, does it mean they are not similar creatures? Haven't you heard about millions leftists,
    Lenin and Stalin were eliminating other socialists/communist in the wars for the same turf. Are not gangsters known for fighting each other?
  • electri... Mike56 2013/03/04 18:03:16
    electricdude
    +1
    Yep you got me I'm just an evil leftist who twists history to fit his believes! It's not like I'm just going off a thing called history books or possibly political texts or anything like that. I just make it all up as I go along lol have fun thinking the right wing is so innocent and the left evil and vile.
  • Mike56 electri... 2013/03/05 01:26:55 (edited)
    Mike56
    +2
    Not sure you managed to rise to prominence within your ranks, so, you could be a very inefficient evil doer, at least yet.
    Bad people can be found in any part of the political specter, but only on the left even a nice person is most likely to participate in creating catastrophes.
  • ☆astac☆... electri... 2013/03/03 16:24:30
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +2
    Maybe you should do some more research. Hitler was a socialist and he agreed with communism
  • Annie~P... electri... 2013/03/09 06:50:52
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    You have got to be kidding!!!! Hitler was a communist as well as a self admitting lefty.
  • seance 2013/03/03 06:08:31
    seance
    +1
    BELIEVE what i say, do not what i do.
  • mach 2013/03/03 05:56:14
    mach
    +3
    And then came the 21st Century!!
    Could you please pin a political label on Bin Laden and his relentless pursuer George W Bush?
    Looks like quite a shift eh?
    Getting off to a helluva start there eh aztek! LOL!!!
  • ☆astac☆... mach 2013/03/03 06:11:51
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +2
    Raved you for your idiotic reply
  • mach ☆astac☆... 2013/03/03 06:20:56
    mach
    +2
    So over 3.000 murdered at the twin towers and over 100,000 Iraqi's ....not to mention over 4,000 US casualties don't matter in this question?
    If it smells like mass murder....looks like mass murder.... then it's probably.... c'monn... help me out here!!!... SAY IT!!!... massssss Murrrrrrrderrrrr!
  • Stoner mach 2013/03/03 13:56:33
    Stoner
    +2
    massssss Murrrrrrrderrrrr
    CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2013
    Total US strikes: 362
    Obama strikes: 310
    Total reported killed: 2,629-3,461
    Civilians reported killed: 475-891
    Children reported killed: 176
    Total reported injured: 1,267-1,431
    US Covert Action in Yemen 2002–2013
    Total confirmed US operations (all): 54-64
    Total confirmed US drone strikes: 42-52
    Possible extra US operations: 135-157
    Possible extra US drone strikes: 77-93
    Total reported killed (all): 374-1,112
    Total civilians killed (all): 72-177
    Children killed (all): 27-37
    US Covert Action in Somalia 2007–2013
    Total US strikes: 10-23
    Total US drone strikes: 3-9
    Total reported killed: 58-170
    Civilians reported killed: 11-57
    Children reported killed: 1-3
  • mach Stoner 2013/03/03 16:11:10
    mach
    +1
    OK... so you guys have a 2-1 lead on us so far this century. If I throw in Syria's Assad, that puts you up 3-1.
  • ☆astac☆... mach 2013/03/03 16:25:31
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +1
    Still wrong junior
  • ☆astac☆... mach 2013/03/03 16:25:05
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +1
    Blah blah, you are still wrong
  • locknload mach 2013/03/03 16:48:14 (edited)
  • ☆astac☆... locknload 2013/03/03 17:54:17
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +2
    Excellent post
  • mach locknload 2013/03/04 14:43:54
    mach
    +1
    I'll have to challenge you to produce any evidence as to his "fondness" for the above mentioned despots.
    "Traits"? ...We all possess human traits.
    Obama maintains respect for Islam, and abhors radical Islam.

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