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Why are RINO's in the Republican party, instead of in the Democrat Party where they belong?

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  • tomas 2011/06/24 05:18:13
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    tomas
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    Easiest way to destroy anything if from within.......we currently have a prefect example of that.

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  • Superman 2011/06/27 05:15:12
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    Superman
    Because some extremist Republicans don't understand that most of the people they label as "RINOs" aren't RINOs.
  • jokeriser 2011/06/26 16:44:41
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    jokeriser
    the last topic I said I disagree with everthing you say but will defend you right to say it here is a good example. of what I disagree with.
  • ConLibFraud 2011/06/25 10:26:32
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    ConLibFraud
    Because both parties are the same! It is all designed to divide and separate people with lies and distractions. The good cop bad cop blame game. And their fricken media does the same thing! They gave the clueless repubs FOX news to pacify them! FOX is just as bad as the liberal msm. They avoid and do not report the truth. It's a blame game!!

    Wake up America!!!!
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2011/06/25 03:11:41
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    lady_c5_loadmaster
    Because if they told you they were democrats they would not get elected. If they claim to be republicans and say the right things during the elections they will get elected and then do the opposite after they are sworn in when it is too late to do anything about it until the next election.
  • Ken 2011/06/25 01:49:38
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    Ken
    They are planted spies.
  • Lynn 2011/06/24 19:51:01
  • Billyk75 2011/06/24 19:05:14
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    Billyk75
    Maybe because they weren't able to win on the DNC ticket.
  • hooda 2011/06/24 17:34:04
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    hooda
    Because we really don't have a Conservative party anymore. Our politicians have all sold out to special interests leaving We The People begging for common sense, but common sense won't buy votes from the boys on Wall Street or the 50% of the citizens who have their hand out.
  • baboula 2011/06/24 16:25:26
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    baboula
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    The Democractic party has already been taken over by Progressives now it is the turn of the GOP hence the RINOs
    JFK would be considered a Republican by this current Democratic party
  • tncdel 2011/06/24 16:23:00
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    tncdel
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  • RubenRibnik 2011/06/24 15:00:53
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    RubenRibnik
    To try and turn the GOP into another Dem party, or to disrupt the beleifs of the party. These people promise one thing and when they get there do nothing but go along with the Dems, giving the Dems the GOP vote needed to get their agenda passed. These people are cheats,liars and frauds.
  • Racefish 2011/06/24 15:00:40
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    Racefish
    Both parties have similar aberrations. There are Conservative Democrats as well as Liberal Republicans. You have to realize, this is all about getting re-elected. They try to appeal to as many voters as possible. That's one good reason for term limits.
  • ACE 2011/06/24 14:11:56
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    ACE
    they are plants to destroy from within
  • cmdrbnd007 2011/06/24 13:21:11
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    cmdrbnd007
    Because where they live it's easier to get elected if you have an R behind your name.
  • Waldorf 2011/06/24 12:35:07
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    Waldorf
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    Because they don't want to be a DINO.
  • tncdel Waldorf 2011/06/24 12:38:24
    tncdel
    A DINO would be the reverse: a Republican masquerading as a Democrat.
  • Waldorf tncdel 2011/06/24 12:49:11
    Waldorf
    Yes, we know, but they will still be moderate from the other side of the fence and they will still be mocked by both the extreme right and the extreme left.
  • Katfish 2011/06/24 12:24:56
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    Katfish
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    We have Democrat part and Democrat lite party.
    separated only by social issues.
  • Beverly 2011/06/24 11:43:20
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    Beverly
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    I believe it is for two reasons. One is that they are in Republican states and could not get elected on the Democratic line. The other reason is they can do more damage to the Republican party by voting against the Republicans than if they were Democrats. Snow and Collins from ME have done extensive damage to the Republican party and yet have been voting back in for years. These RINOS should have been voted out years ago. My grandson who lives there has told me that the young voters want those two out and will be voting against them in the next election, which is hopeful.
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2011/06/24 09:28:16 (edited)
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    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
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    Because both political parties have the same agenda, and both will present us with "choices" that will always pretend to be for the people, but betray them after they are in office.

    Most people are fooled by the paradigm simply because of the different flavor of the candidates rather than their actions or stances on real issues.
  • chaoskitty123 2011/06/24 07:59:16
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    Because many of them support Conservative economic policies even though they also support Liberal social policies. There are many different definitions because rightwingers point out several different types of RINO. The classic definition is a leftwing Liberal, leftwing Progressive (not to be confused with rightwing Progressive), Socialist, Communist but essentially... a leftwinger.

    However, Moderates do not necessarily represent the true meaning of a RINO as there's nothing wrong with working across party or ideological lines because not everyone shares rightwing views... in fact, it's in possessing strict unyielding rightwing or leftwing views that the term "extremist" is used to define that there is no compromise at all in them reflecting they are not mainstream or representing the majority in any sense.

    Thus, when Republicans define and attack Moderates as RINO's... they in turn paint themselves as extremists and apart from the mainstream.

    Is there a difference between an extremist and a Moderate? Yes, a Mainstream Republican (simplest definition) would best fit this as they strongly adhere to a Republican ideological view or standpoint but are willing to compromise where they are not being asked to sacrifice everything they believe in and where they are not being atta...























    Because many of them support Conservative economic policies even though they also support Liberal social policies. There are many different definitions because rightwingers point out several different types of RINO. The classic definition is a leftwing Liberal, leftwing Progressive (not to be confused with rightwing Progressive), Socialist, Communist but essentially... a leftwinger.

    However, Moderates do not necessarily represent the true meaning of a RINO as there's nothing wrong with working across party or ideological lines because not everyone shares rightwing views... in fact, it's in possessing strict unyielding rightwing or leftwing views that the term "extremist" is used to define that there is no compromise at all in them reflecting they are not mainstream or representing the majority in any sense.

    Thus, when Republicans define and attack Moderates as RINO's... they in turn paint themselves as extremists and apart from the mainstream.

    Is there a difference between an extremist and a Moderate? Yes, a Mainstream Republican (simplest definition) would best fit this as they strongly adhere to a Republican ideological view or standpoint but are willing to compromise where they are not being asked to sacrifice everything they believe in and where they are not being attacked for just being Conservative or rightwing in their prevailing views. Then you have the Fringe Dwellers. You often hear the term "Fringe Republicans", Conservatives or rightwingers in one way or another. This tends to refer to radical Republicans who exist in smaller numbers who cannot be classified as extremist, mainstream, moderate or even Republican in some cases because they may possess a different ideology altogether but still adhere to Conservative values which is where Libertarians and Neoconservatives come in as Conservatives possess some Libertarian views and Neocons are essentially rightwing Liberals who used to call themselves Liberals interchangeably with Neocon while they were Democrats. These people are called fringe Republicans in some cases because they aren't perceived as true Republicans but they are generally accepted whereas smaller groups aren't or aren't acknowledged like Constitutionalists.

    Essentially put, a RINO can be anyone not viewed as a mainstream Conservative or extreme rightwinger which in turn often leads the Republican Party into it's worst periods of leadership because they tend to lean more to the extreme right while at the same time becoming vulnerable to groups like Neocons ironically leading them to support the Welfare State, illegal immigration and other leftwing tendencies like greater spending which combined with an opposition to raising taxes leads to things like our current state of endless borrowing putting us into greater debt.

    What some call Reaganomics of Voodoo Economics (whether true or not that Reagan should be faulted) is essentially a policy which is absolutely foreign to the Conservative mindset but it is not foreign to the Liberal mindset being true Liberals essentially exist in very small numbers today and the rest are all Socialists or Progressives using the Liberal name. But Neocons operate this way because they retain Liberal ideologies and are willing to spend until they break us as until the Neocons began switching parties, the Conservatives were in fact known as the party of limited spending growth and yet, since Reagan, spending has exploded. Again, that does not mean Reagan himself was to blame but by the time Bush sr came to the Presidency, it was very clear that the Neocons were then in charge.

    So who would be the greater RINO? A Moderate or a Neoconservative as Moderates only work across party lines but tend to support efforts to reduce spending while Neocons support this only on face value... when they come to power, spending suddenly grows by huge percentages. With Obama in power, we have a man who true Liberals know is not a Liberal and true Centrists know is not a Centrist or a Moderate. Obama may in fact be a Socialist but he definately is an opportunist. As a Socialist, it would be typical to pit opposing parties against one another until his own ideological group comes to power. The problem with Obama is he has little or no real leadership ability so he's not doing it right and for all the support he's had from the extreme left, we are seeing true Liberals and even Moderate Democrats now beginning to emerge openly defying him and supporting the Republican candidates for President... likewise with many true Liberals supporting Mitt Romney so that Obama increasingly is alienating himself.

    A greater question might be why aren't the Blue Dogs and Conservative Democrats switching parties?

    Well, for Conservatives it's a damn good thing they don't. Since Conservatives practically own the Republican Party in their various forms, the Blue Dog / Conservative Democrats eliminate leftwing candidates for office in the Democratic Party before election day so that many of our elections are Conservative Democrats vs Conservative Republicans which greatly aids in Conservatives controlling the country for much of the past 50 years.

    If the leftwing and left leaning moderate Republicans became Democrats and rightwing / right leaning moderate Democrats became Republicans... Conservatives would lose their dominant position because instead of competing against rightwing Democrats who defeated leftwing Democrats in their primaries, every election would have a Conservative Republican against a Liberal Democrat (for the most part) which would slowly increase the power of the political left allowing them to cultivate their following because they would no longer be divided when Democrats come to power as they are now rightwing Democrat vs leftwing Democrat splitting the Democrats against one another. This would strengthen them just as it strengthens Republicans to have little leftwing influence in the Republican Party.

    RINO's, in regard to Moderates, provide the Republicans with an alternative to the left as while they cross party lines and will support leftwing political views to achieve their objectives... they don't lie or deceive you into thinking they are something they aren't like Neocons do as to avoid being attacked as RINO's themselves, Neocons started calling themselves Conservatives just as when Progressive Republicans became Democrats in the late 1960's as Neocons were becoming Republicans... Progressive rightwing Republicans so hated Progressive leftwing Democrats that they likewise stopped calling themselves Progressives and later re emerged as the Blue Dogs with other Conservative Democrats.

    Essentially put, RINO's who are leftwingers in the Republican Party have little power so they make little difference. But Blue Dogs in the Democratic Party do immense damage to the political left helping to split the Democrats against themselves pushing the political left into minority status as rightwing Democrats and rightwing Republicans work together... but there aren't enough leftwingers in the Republican Party for the leftwing Democrats to make any real gains.

    Your traditional Liberal is not that far removed from a Neocon which is why both groups idealize JFK as he was the last American President supported by Neocons and leftwing Anti Communist Liberals and it's why they are offering support to Mitt Romney from within the Democratic Party while Romney retains rightwing support from within the Republican Party... and many Romney supporters express mainstream Republican values and moderate views.

    Mitt Romney seems to prove the case that true Liberals, remnants of the pre Socialist / Progressive, still survive and mainstream Republicans with moderate Republicans can in fact support the same candidate.

    Not every mainstream Republican supports Romney and the reason I call him a RINO is to address the contradiction where Romney is concerned that he is pulling Liberal Democrat support but not the more extreme Liberals Republicans are often more at odds with. While Al Gore caters to the left as a whole, when Clinton was President, Gore did show a willingness to work with the political right and against Bush he actually won a considerable percentage of rightwing votes even from within the Republican Party winning the election on popular votes but losing on electoral votes to Bush. Liberals and Moderates at that time did not have that kind of voting power... he didn't even win his home state. For all the attacks against Gore, we see him endorsing a Republican against a Democrat increasingly viewed as a Socialist even within his own party and among one time supporters turning against him. This says either Gore is a Moderate or there's something different about his form of Liberal politics that isn't as leftwing as the Socialists, Communists and Progressives in the Democratic Party who call themselves Liberals when they aren't.

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  • AL 2011/06/24 07:15:11 (edited)
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    AL
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    Its one of the many ways liberals can fix elections and still end up with a liberal Rino in the White House no matter what! OLd John Mc CON JOB was a prime example of that.
  • SoCalEx-Dem 2011/06/24 06:48:42
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    SoCalEx-Dem
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    I think its prevalent in both parties. Who knew there were so many Progressives in the Democratic Party, they took it over. On the Republican side, I am just tired of the ones without spines. I think both sides get to comfortable in their jobs, they start making extra money and forget they are in office to work for us, not line their pockets, strengthen their perks, and just send us the bill. Politicians are just like diapers, they need to be changed often.
  • yourmomchoselife 2011/06/24 06:39:11 (edited)
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    They're probably in the party to try to bring it down. Why else would someone want to join a political party when they don't support that party's platform?
  • nonnonsenseguy 2011/06/24 06:37:42
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    +1
    They live in denial and actually think they are republicans for some silly reason.
  • tomas 2011/06/24 05:18:13
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    tomas
    +4
    Easiest way to destroy anything if from within.......we currently have a prefect example of that.
  • Bob 2011/06/24 05:10:50
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    Bob
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    Only way they could get elected in their districts by feigning Republicanism. The rest of them have been line crossers who the Republican party allowed in with open arms because they were bringing $$$$$ and votes to the floor. Same reason we give amnisty to criminals;)
  • ken Bob 2011/06/24 05:18:14
    ken
    Stupid theory.
  • Bob ken 2011/06/25 04:53:36
    Bob
    Might do some research on your own... theory is borne from factual observations, less the last sentence that is... lol
  • ken Bob 2011/06/27 00:10:25
    ken
    +1
    I'd like to think you and your pals would welcome any vote that goes against Obama. I would.
  • Bob ken 2011/06/27 00:59:04
    Bob
    Absolutely would, however the practice of infiltration by dems into the republican party won't cease.... they are doing all they can to get their every opportunity to screw Americans.
  • ken 2011/06/24 05:06:47
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    ken
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    Because the Democrat Party freakin' sucks. What about it? You got a problem with that? Do you want them to vote for Obama in the next election?

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