Let us not waste another breath responding to the mock outrage with which progressives react to accusations such as Sarah Palin's "death panel" remark. Whether ObamaCare's Independent Payment Advisory Board should correctly be described as a "death panel" or a "cost-reduction system" is actually a stale semantics debate, given that when they are not acting outraged, leftists explain their real intentions quite clearly. Cutting to the chase, the proper question to ask is, "Why are progressives willing to condemn the old and infirm to death?" I see people aged 67 or 68 at class reunions who dodder around and are constantly going to the doctor.... Why should I have to pay for people who just eat and drink and make no effort? I walk every day and do other things, but I'm paying more in taxes.
In the U.S., former labor secretary Robert Reich offered an audience of cheering young people the following example of what an "honest" presidential candidate would say about health care:
We're going to have to, if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive... so we're going to let you die.
And of course the more prominent apostles of the death cult's moral code are merely reflecting the white papers and scholarly assessments of the "experts," as exemplified by Michael Lind's eminently "moderate" critique of the issue of health care rationing at Salon, back in October 2012. The talk among some Obama administration officials, such as "car czar" Steven Rattner in a New York Times op-ed, about the need to ration care for the weak and old, is insufficient, argues Lind. (Both Rattner and Lind are members of the leftist New America Foundation.) Rather, Lind suggests that while rationing "may be defended in some cases" -- Rattner's op-ed begins, "We need death panels" -- the most comprehensive solution is for government to set and control all prices for healthcare throughout the public and private spheres, as has been "tried and tested" in "all other advanced countries."
Thus, rationing care is just one very sensible part of a multifaceted solution; the value of denying basic property rights and voluntarism, however, must not be neglected. See how reasonable all of this can be made to sound, if only one ignores the logical perversity at the center of it?
As that perversity is so pervasive in today's public discourse on healthcare, perhaps it has become somewhat obscure. Let us state it clearly: the advocates of government-controlled healthcare wish to create a legal monopoly on the provision of treatment to the sick, and then to deny treatment to some on the grounds that "we" cannot afford to offer treatment to everyone.
When Robert Reich says "we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life," he is beginning from the assumption that "we" -- i.e., the government -- are the only possible or legitimate source of "that technology and those drugs."
To them, if you do not support their agenda, you deserve to die.
The aged...the infirm...the very young....anyone they deem to expensive or inconvent should just be dead.
Compassion for human life has taken a back seat to the ever popular.....save the brown nosed puppy...or the baby whales....but the child born with downs or trick21 or not perfect in everyway should be put down ohhhh no not the pitbulls trained to eat people to protect the meth house or pot field...that would be cruel!!
- They hate God. They love death.
This is satanic. It's the love of death. The end of life. Whether that is making abortion a 'woman's right' (and not the very death of women and as anti-maternal as you can get) or maybe its seeing a man's seed go.. not to a life giving womb.. but to feces or stomach acid. Whatever as long as it ensures no life.
and already choosing to 'exit gracefully' is another 'holy' thing for liberal-progressives and they will fight for it.
Ultimately, its satanic. It is anti-life. They hate God. Well their father does and so they are infused with it too.
The 'hate god' statement is another proof of your pure ignorance. You canot hate something that does not exist.
They love that death was overcome and worship He who resurrected from the dead and through Whom all can have everlasting life.
They go on about 'new life' and 'eternal life' over and over again Sunday after Sunday.
You know its all good and well for you to decide "I'm going to say the OPPOSITE haha!" but try and use your head next time.
That was just awful.
NOT PRODUCTIVE ANYMORE BUT THEY COST MONEY TO KEEP THEM ALIVE.
THAT IS INHUMAN.
'SOYLENT GREEN?' The HORRORS ARE HERE TO STAY. EVERYONE WILL BE
OLD; NO ONE WILL ESCAPE OLD AGE.
which is what their advisory panells are !
but they sell these panells as another name !
They have been around for a very long time.
you must be thinking in the UK .....!
there YES ,,,,,,go look at your sources of info. again !
I don't know about you, but I was born free and I won't bend to this liberal BS. I do what I want to do and I don't care if the government likes it or not. Screw `em.
after this new care ins fully initiated ,,the govt. will decide who gets these meds ,
but you dont get the intent lousia is getting at here !
and I'm sure if it were your loved one & extreme emotions were involved ,,you'd feel the same way about sky is the limit for funding !
then your a level one & OR reactivated liberal back for some pay back on some conservs .
you were deactivated werent you for abuse & insults right ?
BTW what was your previous profile name ??
The live span in my family exceeds 95 years old so at 70 I can expect to live at lease 25 more years.
As for babies.......do you realize that the treatment on premature infants can go over a million dollars? An infant born before full term was aborted for a reason. Instead of spending a million dollars to keep a one pound baby alive and having it live with cerebral palsy etc maybe they should be allowed to die. That's pretty sad, but not sadder than intentionally aborting a fetus.
You're right about my age. I'm 70 and I'm done with operations, would refuse chemo and am only accepting treatment that requires no hospitalization. And if I live to be 95 then that's fine. But if I need a new kidney.....no way!! If I have cancer? No treatment!
For people who are really sick you need a real doctor not a charlotan.
Liberals' Arab Spring bubble has already been busted by a youtube video.