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Why Are Politics Stuck In the Sixties?

SodaHead Politics 2010/05/27 14:19:23
We are stuck in the past, because politicians can't move past them.
We're not stuck in the past. But when politicians say stupid things, they get in trouble.
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Between Vietnam and the Civil Rights Act political controversies, one would think that we've built a time machine to keep revisiting the tumultuous 1960s.

When Barack Obama was elected as president, he emphasized that the country needed to move past cultural divisions that have ensnared so many other political eras. It was a promise that galvanized many young voters. But that doesn't seem to have happened.

Democrat Richard Blumenthal, a popular and well respected Connecticut attorney general, appeared poised to be on a easy path to replace retiring Chris Dodd as senator. But after the New York Times said he misrepresented his military service, by saying he served in Vietnam, his poll numbers took a dive. He now finds himself defending himself over his misstatements over a war fought more than 40 years ago.

Rand Paul, a Republican conservative, propelled by the anti-establishment Tea Party movement, upset the GOP-backed candidate to run for senator. Then in a conversation about the 1964 Civil Rights Act, he said it overreached and should have never been passed. He later rowed back and said he wouldn't seek to repeal it.

It seems the more we move forward, the more we go backward.

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  • Stratweenie57 2010/05/27 15:39:12
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    Yesterday's Flower Children are today's Blooming Idiots,and they hold a majority in both houses AND the WH.They can't get past the 60's because they see the period as thier finest hour up til now.They've been trying to impose thier Socialist Utopia on us SINCE the 60's and they now have the chance.....so they re-live thier glory days constantly.

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  • Vieuphoria 2010/07/12 10:21:04
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    Vieuphoria
    People have been told for generations since the begining of the US that it's only OK to be a white, Middle Class, Straight, Conservative Male. If you are anything other than this you have faced persicution. This being said, there is another issue that ever since the dawn of TV etc society has had this drummed even further into the social psyche. These values are passed down through children. It take a lot of get attitudes to change, especially for people who have been told their entire life something is wrong. Thank christ for the feminist movements, and the civil rights movements that gave females and African-Americans the rights they deserved (or at least has given them the chance to start getting their rights). Next on the agenda is Homosexuality... these will face the same preludgice as everyone else... but it's made worse due to the inclusion of Religion. In my eyes religion should be kept out of politics. Civil rights are what matters, it just takes time for societies to change.
  • Nika 2010/05/27 23:29:33
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    Nika
    Aww... I love the sixties. It was such an interasting time period.

    But yes it does seem that people take two steps forward and three steps back.
    aww love sixties interasting period people steps steps
  • CitizenErased 2010/05/27 23:19:45
  • BornToBeWild 2010/05/27 23:12:06 (edited)
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    BornToBeWild
    We're not stuck in the past. But when politicians say stupid things and vote on stupid bills, we get in trouble and pay for their own built up larger debts in the name of bureaucracy and government gained powers!

    They steal and call it revenue. They lie and call it truth. They cheat and call it progress. They tax and call it free money. They spend and call it assets and investments. If we do anything of the sort, WE GO TO JAIL!
  • debbie 2010/05/27 22:49:16
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    debbie
    these people in office are not hippies. most of them are way too old. it seems they are the same war pigs we tried to fight before. they have just gotten better at it.
  • WshngMchn 2010/05/27 22:46:48
  • nigel 2010/05/27 22:23:18
    We are stuck in the past, because politicians can't move past them.
    nigel
    +2
    People never like to let go og their past...and look who is in charge now! The radicals of the 60s who think the SDS was cool, who think the Weather Underground was cool, the one's who want to say love is all you need.

    They went into advertising and molded parents that won't say no, they molded kids who do not know American history thanks to the NEA, they have been taught to fear the use of the word racist which is used to excess. We have been taught that America has no culture and that we should honor all cultures before our own. While these ex-radicals rake in the millions, they [preach that greed is a sin to the secular humanist diety they worship. They have taught an entire generation that man's natural state is not war, yet they have violent rallies. They have taught an entire generation that criminals bear no responsibility, it is society's fault that they commit crimes.

    It is time to bid these losers goodbye, socialism and communism have never worked and they especially won't work in a country where special interest groups work to put themselves before other fellow Americans.

    No more hippies, please.
  • KenSturmer 2010/05/27 22:03:51
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    I think that people like Rand Paul, are unfortunately longing for a time when it was legal to discriminate, and look for enemies under every rock.
    Hippies? There haven't been any since the sixties, give it a rest!
    If you mean anti-war protesters. What better way to celebrate Memorial Day! If there were no wars, there wouldn't be any war dead!
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2010/05/27 21:47:11
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    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +3
    Hippies need to shower and stop being so pretentious -_-
  • Pseudonym ««Ginge... 2010/05/27 21:59:26
    Pseudonym
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    Why the discrimination and stereotyping, hmm? I'm a hippie. I take long hot hippie baths on a daily basis, chanting mantras, and healing at least the immediate world around me. I also can't grow body hair to save my life. So much for the stereotype.
  • ««Ginge... Pseudonym 2010/05/27 22:04:04
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +1
    Yeah, but you're a cool hippie.
  • Pseudonym ««Ginge... 2010/05/27 22:15:04
  • Mrs. V 2010/05/27 21:07:49
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    +2
    We aren't. The issues will always be the same, just different names. Good (conservatives and freedom) versus evil (liberals and oppression by law).
  • Larson Whipsnade 2010/05/27 21:04:16
  • ashdragon88 2010/05/27 21:00:05
    We are stuck in the past, because politicians can't move past them.
    ashdragon88
    +4
    Unfortunately we are stuck in the past because the protesting hippies of yesteryear are now the politicians running the show and they still feel they have to invoke change, even in places its not needed or even wanted for that matter.

    Dont worry tho, they all have to die off eventually right?
  • Kalayaan 001 2010/05/27 20:33:41
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    Kalayaan 001
    Correction: "Why Is Politics Stuck In the Sixties?" Singular things that, by nature, end with "s" (like "Physics", "Economics", and, in some cases, "martial arts") are an exception to the rule. You use "is".
  • DeVan 2010/05/27 20:02:04
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    that this has nothing to do with anything. we are still getting over the baby boomer generation and the civil rights generation. ask this ques in 2040, then it may b a valid ques. lol
  • Spider Jerusalem 2010/05/27 19:40:59
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    Spider Jerusalem
    +1
    people need to lay off the weed
  • Delicio... Spider ... 2010/05/27 22:17:34
    Delicious Crab Meat
    +1
    But weed is good for you!
  • Jai Mor... Spider ... 2010/05/27 22:51:51
    Jai Morenyee
    +1
    Being a hippie has nothing to do with weed.
  • ses 2010/05/27 19:04:17
    We are stuck in the past, because politicians can't move past them.
    ses
    +3
    http://www.ffwdweekly.com/art...

    harper government try to change law and force muslim and all group or hated hippies or hated other minority in canada by judge orders
    even they try to change law in criminal court order in civil court order

    is public companies like Loblaw able to do what they wish for do and treat Muslim halal food anything they want I do not think so unless loblaw change like Sobye like private compnay
  • Koatz 2010/05/27 18:39:33
    We're not stuck in the past. But when politicians say stupid things, they get...
    Koatz
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    As long as politicians continue to comment on past events, we'll be stuck in the past. I think it is very relevant to examine their views of such events.

    It does matter if a politician thinks that Hitler was a great leader.
    It does matter if a leader believes that the Confederacy should have won our civil war.
    It does matter if a candidate for political office thinks that Plessy vs Ferguson was a good decision.
  • Ric O'Shea® 2010/05/27 18:38:24
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    +1
    ...the anti-war demonstrations during the Viet Nam war was awesome... except for the violence. When Dubya went into Iraq I often thought about how the Abbie Hoffman's the Jerry Rubin's the Tom Hayden's, etc., have disappeared from our culture. I think fear was the major opponent for college demonstrations during Iraq... and I believe that there was much more to demonstrate against concerning Iraq.

    Oh, back to the main question... I believe that anyone who runs for political office needs to be ultra honest because everything will eventually come out. In Richard Blumenthal's case... especially as a state attorney general he took a detour around the question and turned it around to complain that no one should ever question his time in the military because he was proud of his military record. Be that as it may, anyone running for office needs to be up front about everything... be honest about everything, honesty says a lot more than even the tiniest of lies under our political microscope.
  • WankerBait 2010/05/27 18:23:06
    We're not stuck in the past. But when politicians say stupid things, they get...
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    If we were stuck in the past, all the regressive ideologues wouldn't keep pining for yesterday's pre-civil-rights society ...
  • Rae 2010/05/27 17:45:39 (edited)
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    ...it's way more complicated than that. I remember the '60s. Granted, I was a young kid but I was there, courtesy of older cousins who where very politically active and the reports out of 'Nam on the T.V. every night. And I have to say that I think that America is more turbulent now than then and it ain't just because of the politicians.
    Bear with me and I'll do my best to explain my thinking here; I'll try to stick to a point but this is going to be a long post; be patient, please. At one point in our history, if you said something vulgar about a man's wife or mother, there was the very real chance that you were going to get punched in the nose. Now, this guy might get arrested but not much was going to happen to him because there was an underlying assumption the you bore the responsibility for the consequences of exercising your free speech--i. e., a bloody nose. Starting in the '60s, you saw an erosion of that assumption of responsibility -- the attitude that a person's free speech didn't come with the price tag of personal responsibility for the event that came from the exercise of that privilege.
    You also saw a growing sense of entitlement, based on the cause or ideology espouse-- because it was "right". Sort of to the effect that my free speech is more important than y...




    ...it's way more complicated than that. I remember the '60s. Granted, I was a young kid but I was there, courtesy of older cousins who where very politically active and the reports out of 'Nam on the T.V. every night. And I have to say that I think that America is more turbulent now than then and it ain't just because of the politicians.
    Bear with me and I'll do my best to explain my thinking here; I'll try to stick to a point but this is going to be a long post; be patient, please. At one point in our history, if you said something vulgar about a man's wife or mother, there was the very real chance that you were going to get punched in the nose. Now, this guy might get arrested but not much was going to happen to him because there was an underlying assumption the you bore the responsibility for the consequences of exercising your free speech--i. e., a bloody nose. Starting in the '60s, you saw an erosion of that assumption of responsibility -- the attitude that a person's free speech didn't come with the price tag of personal responsibility for the event that came from the exercise of that privilege.
    You also saw a growing sense of entitlement, based on the cause or ideology espouse-- because it was "right". Sort of to the effect that my free speech is more important than yours because I'm on the socially-enlightened side of this argument. Couple that with a growing sense of entitlement, of all kinds, and you have a very volatile mix.
    Fast-forward through the '70s (sex, drugs and rock & roll) and the '80s (greed is good), with that whole volatile mix begun in the '60s gaining critical mass the whole time, and you arrive at the dawn of the PC era. Now we've gone from 'I'm more entitled to my opinions than you are because I'm more morally advanced' to 'I'm right, you're wrong and you can't say that to me because I don't like it and it hurts my feelings'. There is nothing too vile to say, as long as you are on the socially-acceptable side of the debate. You haven't changed what people think or feel, you've just pushed them underground and given yourself more license to behave badly in public forums.
    Now, add the Internet. Now you can call someone that you don't agree with a f***ing, racist (homophobe, Commie, Jesus freak, fascist, etc.-- you pick the slur of your choice) s***head from the comfort of your own home, secure in your anonymity, to thousands of people, without any facts to back it up and with no consequences that you can't avoid with the click of a button. Facts are completely irrelevant; passionate feelings are all that matters. And, if your views are unpopular with even a very small segment of the population, God help you if you say anything that is subject to interpretation because it will be twisted to fit the opinions, biases, assumptions and agendas of thousands of other people.
    For example; how many of you actually looked up what Trent Lott said at Strom Thurman's 100th birthday party? I did and, as near as I can figure, what he said was that the U.S. would be a different place than it is today if Thurman's bid for the presidency had been successful. Not that it would be a better place, just different. It's the sort of bland, empty statement uttered every day at retirement parties and birthday parties across the world but, because the person that said it was white, male, Southern and conservative, it was taken to mean that here was proof-positive that Lott was a racist and deserved to be hounded from office.
    And this sort of crap goes on constantly, on all sides of the political spectrum. Take the sound byte, put your spin on it and scream to the bloody moon about it. Create an issue, if you can't find one that suits your ideology or agenda, because, after all, reason and civility are trumped by passionate feelings.
    Much as I hate to give the politicians even a partial pass, they can't move pass the '60s because we haven't. It seems to me that, unfortunately, they are what we have created. By all mean, hold them accountable for what they say but remember that we, all of us, play a part in shaping the debate. The exercise of free speech is a precious thing but it was guaranteed under the assumption that we, as adult, were capable of using it wisely, with reason and tolerance for the opinions of others.
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  • kaylee Rae 2010/05/27 19:35:17
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    Wow! I am really glad I took the time to read this! You nailed it!!!
  • Rae kaylee 2010/05/27 19:45:09
    Rae
    +1
    Thank you for taking the time to read it; I was concerned that the length ( and what might seem like digressions) would put people off of it. But I sincerely believe every word.
  • Lanikai Rae 2010/05/27 20:35:29
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    +2
    Those of us looking for intelligent discourse read the long ones. It wa swell well worth the read.
  • Lanikai Rae 2010/05/27 20:34:30
    Lanikai
    +1
    Bravo. Well stated.
  • Gina R Rae 2010/06/06 16:27:30
    Gina R
    Absolutely correct. I'm saving that.
  • shenendoah 2010/05/27 17:45:16
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    This was a time of self indulgence to the max. Free love(indiscriminate sex), drop in(lsd, grass,etc), drop out(of society). There was no pride of country and no pride of self. This was the hippie culture, and it wasn't pretty. These people didn't support themselves...they lived off the charity of others. They were draft dodging cowards and refused to support the military. They put down America and praised it's enemies. The hippie generation is alive and well..now they call themselves liberals.
  • Fidelito 2010/05/27 17:42:36
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    Fidelito
    The US is marching the world down the road to yet ANOTHER war. International law... what's that? National sovereignty... what's that? The US Government seems to think they own the world... and frankly, because of that, we're all fu@ked!
  • Lanikai Fidelito 2010/05/27 20:36:19
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    +1
    Wrong. The UN and it's support of terror states and dictators is forcing a war for OUR sovereign status as a nation.
  • Fidelito Lanikai 2010/05/27 22:01:58
    Fidelito
    The only nucular (lol) state with a dictator is North Korea (and the USA). And we (USA) gave up our soveringty when we went global. Lol....
  • Steford doesn't follow 2010/05/27 17:34:35
    We're not stuck in the past. But when politicians say stupid things, they get...
    Steford doesn't follow
    +1
    There will ALWAYS be dishonesty in politics! It's mother nature! You can't please everybody, SO they HELP out the people who GIVE them the MOST $$$! That's the way it is! UNTIL,we get rid of the LOBBYIST and PAC members, THIS IS THE WAY IT WILL BE!
  • B.S. Detector 2010/05/27 17:16:44
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    B.S. Detector
    +2
    The "Liberal Hippies" of the 60's sound more like the Republicans of today...believe it or not. Today's "Liberals" aren't really Liberal at all....they are Progressive and Socialistic. Look at the short clip below and think of it as a time capsule.....
    The Mike Stivak character was the poster child for "Liberal Hippies" back in the late 60's & early 70's.....Now I find myself screaming out the same injustices that are currently being carried out by the Obama administration.


    But certain things don't change a bit.......


    For all those PCer's......
  • captkirk999 2010/05/27 17:07:07
    We're not stuck in the past. But when politicians say stupid things, they get...
    captkirk999
    +3
    I would rather be a hippie than support this stuck politicians stupid trouble hippie support
  • Fidelito captkir... 2010/05/27 22:05:22
    Fidelito
    Eastern Europeans and Jews?
  • captkir... Fidelito 2010/06/01 18:17:08
    captkirk999
    Not all Jews support zionism
  • Fidelito captkir... 2010/06/01 20:02:38
    Fidelito
    True that!
    Definition of Zionism:

    an organization of Jews whose goal is to create a nation for Jews.

    Definition of Judaism:

    Jews collectively who practice a religion based on the Torah and the Talmud.

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