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Why are Democrats always against Wars?

mwg0735 2012/05/29 03:51:39
Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
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Going back to Vietnam - Sometimes we have to go to war. Regardless of the reason, the military always delivers.

So why do Democrats hate it so much?

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  • Think Free 2012/05/29 17:53:14
    Democrats are afraid the Draft may come back
    Think Free
    +10
    So tell me,
    A) What exactly did Vietnam accomplish?
    and,
    B) Was it worth 58,220 dead 303,644 wounded?

    ..maybe that's just a part of the reason.

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  • Vision of Verve 2012/06/21 18:46:16
  • poet4justice 2012/06/21 03:54:02
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    poet4justice
    but democrat wwII and the great depression all under the command who the first president who used a wheelchair, they won both,
  • Steve 2012/06/20 20:17:55
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Steve
    +1
    The US would be in far better shape today if the TRILLIONS spent in Iraq and Afghanistan had been spent within our borders.

    Korean War -- fustercluck
    Vietnam -- fustercluck
    Iraq -- fustercluck
    Afghanistan -- fustercluck

    There's something WRONG with Democrats opposing such wars????
  • mwg0735 Steve 2012/06/21 03:34:01
  • Vision ... Steve 2012/06/21 18:45:50
  • Night 2012/06/20 19:33:47 (edited)
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Night
    Take care of our own people first and then go to war. Sometimes it is necessary if someone makes and aggressive move against us but otherwise we should just stay out of it.
    Although there should be a none of the above answer.
  • Mrkando 2012/06/20 19:23:14
    Democrats are afraid the Draft may come back
    Mrkando
    +1
    In reading this post, and the way you present it, I would be surprised if you would be able to put the right shoe on the right foot. You can't get any more slanted than this. Why are democrats against wars? We are only against the wars we should never have been in the first place. The United States has for some time now felt the need to be the police force of the world. And it matters little that a country presents any real threat to us.

    You talk about Vietnam as though it were a necessary war. Not even close. It would have been one thing if we had gone there to win but we never did. When you surround a village that you suspect contains the enemy and then send helicopters over the village to warn the civilians that it is about to be attacked only to find once you do attack that no one is there how do you ever expect to win anything? This was done time and again. Yes it attempted to protect innocent people but what is the point? If you were there you know damn well what I mean. So many people killed and for what? We walked away from that wholesale slaughter and that country has never had it so good. The only difference between it and Korea is we are still in Korea! Anything resolved there? Not a damn thing.

    Then along comes the Gulf war. This was justified as we needed to pr...

    In reading this post, and the way you present it, I would be surprised if you would be able to put the right shoe on the right foot. You can't get any more slanted than this. Why are democrats against wars? We are only against the wars we should never have been in the first place. The United States has for some time now felt the need to be the police force of the world. And it matters little that a country presents any real threat to us.

    You talk about Vietnam as though it were a necessary war. Not even close. It would have been one thing if we had gone there to win but we never did. When you surround a village that you suspect contains the enemy and then send helicopters over the village to warn the civilians that it is about to be attacked only to find once you do attack that no one is there how do you ever expect to win anything? This was done time and again. Yes it attempted to protect innocent people but what is the point? If you were there you know damn well what I mean. So many people killed and for what? We walked away from that wholesale slaughter and that country has never had it so good. The only difference between it and Korea is we are still in Korea! Anything resolved there? Not a damn thing.

    Then along comes the Gulf war. This was justified as we needed to protect Kuwait. That accomplished we walked away. That President knew right from wrong and did not let his advisers make him go wrong. Then along came another chance to kill more Innocent people and with very little evidence to support it we went to war with IRAQ....again. Totally unnecessary as they posed no direct threat to us. And it cost not only trillions of dollars but hundreds of thousands of lives. Are they better off. Only time will tell. Are we better off....no...because our real enemy is still out there and looking to find ways to get us and in so many ways they have already.

    If you truly think that war is an absolute must, no matter what the reason, then please be the first to sign up, but don't drag down everyone else with you.
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  • cmdrbnd007 2012/06/20 19:20:53
    Democrats don't want to work
    cmdrbnd007
    +2
    None of the options really work. You need an "none of the above" option. Who was president for WWII, FDR a democrat. Who was president for the Korean conflict. Truman a democrat. Who got us involved in Vietnam? Both JFK and LBJ both democrats. Bosnia? Clinton.
  • Bastion 2012/06/20 18:16:19
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Bastion
    +4
    This question is hilarious! You should go on tour.

    calvin and hobbes laughing
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/06/20 17:49:46
    Democrats are afraid the Draft may come back
    NarcolepticGoat
    +4
    I picked one of the more laughable of your troll answer choices. Everyone knows that the MILITARY is afraid the draft may come back because they don't want to deal with the mess that results in. Not to mention the anti war sentiment that ratchets up to high gear because of it.

    Why was I, as a democrat opposed to invading another country for no reason? Gee, let me see... it was morally indefensible? It was wrong? It was unnecessary?

    But of course, I will take your attitude, paint you with what I think you believe, and say: Why do republicans love to invade countries for no reason.
  • Vijay Pawar 2012/06/20 17:39:53
    Democrats are afraid the Draft may come back
    Vijay Pawar
    +2
    They know what happened in Vietnam.
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/06/20 17:37:39
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +2
    Weird question, considering that Democrats started nearly all of the wars of the 20th century. Bush Daddy's Iraq War is the only exception.
  • Melizmatic Warren ... 2012/06/20 18:58:00
    Melizmatic
    +1
    Raved by mistake.
  • Warren ... Melizmatic 2012/06/20 20:45:53
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    No problem, here's one for you and we'll call it even.
  • Foxhound BN0 2012/06/20 17:33:22
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Foxhound BN0
    +4
    War is wrong.
  • Willie 2012/06/20 17:24:29
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Willie
    +7
    Sometimes we have to go to war? Why did we have to go to Viet Nam? Why did we have to go to Korea? Why did we have to enter into any of the wars we have been involved in for the last 50 years?

    There has been no reason for any of them that is sufficient for the sacrifice of even one life. Even an "enemy" life.

    We lost Viet Nam, by the way. And the dominoes didn't come tumbling, as the predictions said they would.

    I'll tell you the real reason why we go to war in the modern age: it's good for business. Corporate profits. Control of markets. Making dangerous parts of the world safe for trade. It's all about money. Making the rich richer.

    I really only feel qualified to talk about the wars that have taken place during my lifetime (born in 1961), but in 1935, a retired United States Marine Corps Major General and two time Medal of Honor recipient named Smedley D. Butler wrote a short book called War Is a Racket that is pretty universal. You ought to read it. Here's a brief excerpt:

    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico ...
    Sometimes we have to go to war? Why did we have to go to Viet Nam? Why did we have to go to Korea? Why did we have to enter into any of the wars we have been involved in for the last 50 years?

    There has been no reason for any of them that is sufficient for the sacrifice of even one life. Even an "enemy" life.

    We lost Viet Nam, by the way. And the dominoes didn't come tumbling, as the predictions said they would.

    I'll tell you the real reason why we go to war in the modern age: it's good for business. Corporate profits. Control of markets. Making dangerous parts of the world safe for trade. It's all about money. Making the rich richer.

    I really only feel qualified to talk about the wars that have taken place during my lifetime (born in 1961), but in 1935, a retired United States Marine Corps Major General and two time Medal of Honor recipient named Smedley D. Butler wrote a short book called War Is a Racket that is pretty universal. You ought to read it. Here's a brief excerpt:

    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
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  • Kyra 2012/06/20 17:10:48 (edited)
    Democrats are afraid the Draft may come back
    Kyra
    +5
    Innocent People DIE! That is why!

    Why do you support war?

    You have become that which you claim is bad because they kill, when you kill you are them. Killing is against the law in America, but you support it elsewhere? Thats hypocritical and shows the spirit behind all this. Religious persecution and racism against anybody when it becomes violent is Hitlerish and Anti-American, keep it up.
  • bags th... Kyra 2012/06/20 17:29:49
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +2
    It's not a political party that is against war...it's individuals who don't see the sense of it all. Those who wish we all could live together in peace and harmony. That's not based in any one religious or political system, but in the human heart itself. Many anti-wart folks don't actively participate in our political system because they feel that 'voting only encourages themselves.
  • Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO 2012/05/29 18:27:48
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    +4
    how about going back to WWII there has not been a declared war, and therefore illegal, and unnecessary.
    The founding fathers were well aware of what wars of choice were about and who benefitted the most.
    So there is NO "Regardless of the reason..." bs ... there are always those out there who can produce a reason to go to war, like the famous "we have to fight them there so we dont have to fight them here" line of garbage. How about finding a reason NOT to go to war for a change?
  • mwg0735 Joe Shw... 2012/05/30 02:17:17
  • Joe Shw... mwg0735 2012/05/30 02:38:12
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    +2
    Most times you do.
  • Think Free 2012/05/29 17:53:14
    Democrats are afraid the Draft may come back
    Think Free
    +10
    So tell me,
    A) What exactly did Vietnam accomplish?
    and,
    B) Was it worth 58,220 dead 303,644 wounded?

    ..maybe that's just a part of the reason.
  • mwg0735 Think Free 2012/05/29 18:05:04
  • Joe Shw... mwg0735 2012/05/29 18:30:26
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    +3
    only after his "secret" plan to stop it in his second term.

    And JFK was killed while trying to pull out of Vietnam, fact!
    [..]The 1990s saw the gaps in the declassified record on Vietnam filled in—with spring 1963 plans for the complete withdrawal of U.S. forces. An initial 1000 man pullout (of the approximately 17,000 stationed in Vietnam at that time) was initiated in October 1963, though it was diluted and rendered meaningless in the aftermath of Kennedy's death. The longer-range plans called for complete withdrawal of U. S. forces and a "Vietnamization" of the war, scheduled to happen largely after the 1964 elections.
  • watusiw... mwg0735 2012/05/29 20:27:25
    watusiwaldo
    +1
    under protest he put a stop to it...and JFK realized he was going out of Vietnam, but your side, you military weirdo, bumped him off first. nice hair cut, Gomer Pyle, USMC
  • Willie mwg0735 2012/06/20 17:26:14
    Willie
    +3
    I thought you said Democrats were always against wars. Now you're saying Democrats were responsible for the Viet Nam war. Which one is it?
  • mwg0735 Willie 2012/06/20 18:14:43
  • Warren ... mwg0735 2012/06/20 17:39:16
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +1
    So why did Nixon stop it? Was he a girly man. Why are Republicans such girly men?
  • mwg0735 Warren ... 2012/06/20 18:15:28
  • gfreema... mwg0735 2012/06/20 18:42:40
    gfreeman BN-0
    +2
    I think yo just disproved what you are trying to prove. Massive fail on your part.

    fail blog
  • mwg0735 gfreema... 2012/06/21 03:38:34
  • gfreema... mwg0735 2012/06/21 17:45:51
    gfreeman BN-0
    Ok, buddy.
  • doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4 2012/05/29 16:24:38
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    doctorwhofan~Tatae~BN-4
    +4
    Because it kills people and ruins people's lives.
  • David Lindner 2012/05/29 15:45:04
    Democrats don't want to work
    David Lindner
    duh!
  • Cliff 2012/05/29 13:28:49
    Democrats are Girly Men
    Cliff
    +1
    Liberals need an image of self righteousness to cover up their cowardice.
  • mwg0735 Cliff 2012/05/29 15:02:47
  • Marvelous Wildfire 2012/05/29 05:33:29
    Democrats don't want to work
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    I believe you *MEANT* to say: "Why do Demotcrats *SAY* they are 'against war!' when they have started *SO MANY*"?

    Like:
    War of 1812 (1812 to 1815) U.S. Casualties: 20,000 deaths, 4505 wounded in action : Democrat James Madison

    The Mexican–American War (1846 to 1848) U.S. Casualties: 13,271 deaths, 4152 wounded in action: Democrat James K. Polk

    American Civil War (April 12, 1861 to April 9, 1865) Casualties: 110,000 deaths, 275,200 wounded in action: Republican Abraham Lincoln

    Spanish-American War (April 25–August 12, 1898) U.S.Casualties: 332 combat deaths: Republican William McKinley

    World War I (August 1914 to November 11, 1918) U.S. Casualties: 53,402 deaths, 204,002 wounded in action: Democrat Woodrow Wilson

    World War II (December 8, 1941 to August 14, 1945) U.S. Casualties 407,300 deaths, 670,846 wounded in action: Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Korean War (June 25, 1950 to July 27, 1953 )U.S. Casualties: 54,246 deaths, 8142 missing in action: Democrat Harry S. Truman

    Vietnam (U.S. involvement 1961- 72) U.S. Casualties: 58,193 deaths, 153,303 wounded in action, 1948 missing in action: Democrat John F. Kennedy

    Gulf War (August 2, 1990 to February 28, 1991) U.S. Casualties: 378 deaths, less than 1000 wounded in action: Republican George H. W. Bush

    Afghanis...




    I believe you *MEANT* to say: "Why do Demotcrats *SAY* they are 'against war!' when they have started *SO MANY*"?

    Like:
    War of 1812 (1812 to 1815) U.S. Casualties: 20,000 deaths, 4505 wounded in action : Democrat James Madison

    The Mexican–American War (1846 to 1848) U.S. Casualties: 13,271 deaths, 4152 wounded in action: Democrat James K. Polk

    American Civil War (April 12, 1861 to April 9, 1865) Casualties: 110,000 deaths, 275,200 wounded in action: Republican Abraham Lincoln

    Spanish-American War (April 25–August 12, 1898) U.S.Casualties: 332 combat deaths: Republican William McKinley

    World War I (August 1914 to November 11, 1918) U.S. Casualties: 53,402 deaths, 204,002 wounded in action: Democrat Woodrow Wilson

    World War II (December 8, 1941 to August 14, 1945) U.S. Casualties 407,300 deaths, 670,846 wounded in action: Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Korean War (June 25, 1950 to July 27, 1953 )U.S. Casualties: 54,246 deaths, 8142 missing in action: Democrat Harry S. Truman

    Vietnam (U.S. involvement 1961- 72) U.S. Casualties: 58,193 deaths, 153,303 wounded in action, 1948 missing in action: Democrat John F. Kennedy

    Gulf War (August 2, 1990 to February 28, 1991) U.S. Casualties: 378 deaths, less than 1000 wounded in action: Republican George H. W. Bush

    Afghanistan War (October 7, 2001 to present) U.S. Casualties: 1098 deaths, 2379 wounded in action: Republican George W. Bush

    Iraq War (March 20, 2003 to December 15, 2011) U.S. Casualties: 4,404 deaths; 31,827 wounded in action: Republican George W. Bush

    6 Democrat Wars Democrat caused War Deaths: 552,166
    5 Republican Wars Republican caused War Deaths (excluding the Civil War): 6,258 Republican caused War Deaths *INCLUDING* the Civil War: 116,212
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  • mwg0735 Marvelo... 2012/05/29 06:38:31
  • watusiw... mwg0735 2012/05/29 20:24:37
    watusiwaldo
    all you 'care about' (because you don't KNOW anything), is what your military freakshow shoves down your redneck, you're brainwashed, can't think for himself, dumbed down, think you're a tough piece of an American mess...nice haircut...I still wonder if you have any teeth. My socks off to you...Gomer Pyle USMC
  • watusiwaldo 2012/05/29 05:16:26
    Wars mean less money for social programs and food stamps
    watusiwaldo
    +3
    dumb choices...why are republicans war mongers?

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