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Who's Most Responsible for the Employment Skill Gap?

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Slowly but surely, unemployment is dropping. Since its 10.1% peak in October of 2009, rates have dropped to 8.6% and continue to show signs of improvement. But there are still debates over how to better prepare the unemployed to enter the workforce, and a lot of the debate revolves around higher education. Many job-seekers are finding themselves lacking in the skills the market demands, and that gap needs to be addressed.

According to Good.is, the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools found that 45 percent of hiring managers think college students would benefit from a more workplace-oriented "trade school-like" higher education system that excludes or de-emphasizes liberal arts. However, the other 55% are fine with the education system that's in place now.

Obviously, the responsibility should be diversified to some extent, but who should take charge? Should colleges do a better job at preparing students for realistic job opportunities? Should businesses take responsibility in selecting the right employees and training them appropriately? Or is it all up to the individual who's in the unemployment bind to begin with?

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  • imsmarter 2012/01/02 19:14:06
    The unemployed
    imsmarter
    +2
    While I don't believe they are the cause for the massive unemployment rating I do believe they are responsible for their lack in hire-able skills.Especially if they have been unemployed for a while. While actively searching for work they had the time to better themselves so as to add to their resume. Volunteer, take vocational training classes, go to college... these are all options that could help them be the best candidate for a new job.
  • mac -Holding Fast 2012/01/02 18:43:59
    The unemployed
    mac -Holding Fast
    +2
    Individuals.
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/01/02 18:43:27 (edited)
    The government
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +2
    Easily the fascist government and the people for allowing the government to get out of hand. We've allowed them to dummy down the schools, install a department of education that has done nothing good, sell us that everyone must go to college, while they heavily inflate the costs through subsidies, etc.
    What we need is for the federal government to get out of schools, and allow schools and colleges to either be privately run or locally run.

    I could go on, but the main problem is clearly that we have a fascist government putting its hands everywhere that it doesnt belong,and we do nothing about it.
  • DefendnProtect 2012/01/02 18:36:23
    The government
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Part of old (2007) but even more relevant column today..

    "The U.S. focuses more on procedure ... other countries work on the concept."

    To what can this education gap be attributed? Is the answer that we are not spending enough money on education? The majority of the data says no. The U.S. spends $11,152 per student per year. This ranks second internationally behind Switzerland, which spends $11,334. However, even though we have increased the amount we spend per student by about 30 percent over the last fine to 10 years, we have seen steady, sometimes even declining, international test scores. As a result, the last couple of decades have shown us the surfacing reality of a country having reached an intellectual “roadblock,” and a youth that is slowly being left behind as the members of its international community continue to excel.

    But is this problem inherent in our system, or can it be fixed with good legislation? David Marsh, a professor at the USC Rossier School of Education, says, "The U.S. focuses more on procedure ... other countries work on the concept." All of us would agree that, throughout our educational careers, there have been moments where we have taken tests and done well on them, despite having replaced a solid understanding of the concepts with the easier k...




    Part of old (2007) but even more relevant column today..

    "The U.S. focuses more on procedure ... other countries work on the concept."

    To what can this education gap be attributed? Is the answer that we are not spending enough money on education? The majority of the data says no. The U.S. spends $11,152 per student per year. This ranks second internationally behind Switzerland, which spends $11,334. However, even though we have increased the amount we spend per student by about 30 percent over the last fine to 10 years, we have seen steady, sometimes even declining, international test scores. As a result, the last couple of decades have shown us the surfacing reality of a country having reached an intellectual “roadblock,” and a youth that is slowly being left behind as the members of its international community continue to excel.

    But is this problem inherent in our system, or can it be fixed with good legislation? David Marsh, a professor at the USC Rossier School of Education, says, "The U.S. focuses more on procedure ... other countries work on the concept." All of us would agree that, throughout our educational careers, there have been moments where we have taken tests and done well on them, despite having replaced a solid understanding of the concepts with the easier knowledge of how to get the right answer. Does an average American fourth-grader really know what fractions are, or just how to add and subtract them? A recent poll showed that more high school students know the dates associated with the Civil War than the reasons for which it was fought. Likewise, how can we go to war in Iraq when the average American cannot find the Middle East — much less Iraq or Afghanistan — on a map? These problems are inherent in our education system.

    "The U.S. focuses more on procedure ... other countries work on the concept."
    Where do these procedures originate?

    http://www.insidevandy.com/dr...
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  • PCisWrong Defendn... 2012/01/03 03:47:40
    PCisWrong
    +2
    Excellent addition. I was looking for these very statistics. Thanks for the post!
  • Defendn... PCisWrong 2012/01/03 04:40:55
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    You're welcome. Thank you for initiating the discussion!
  • sodabox 2012/01/02 18:29:57
    Businesses
    sodabox
    +1
    Businesses aren't telling the schools what they want. Probably because they have no idea what they want.
  • dawn 2012/01/02 18:29:29
    The unemployed
    dawn
    +1
    Young people best get off all the nonstop video games or else we won't even have a work force.
  • davidl 2012/01/02 18:14:00
    The unemployed
    davidl
    +3
    Businesses have the responsibility to hire the best qualified person for the least amount possible, and keep him/her until that person is no longer necessary. It is a tough world out there, and the sooner the whiners realize this, the sooner they'll take responsibility for their situation and improve their skills.

    Public education averages $12K/year. So everybody gets roughly a $150K scholarship. Some people do well and end up getting scholarships to MIT or Harvard School of Business. Others drop out and are lucky to get a job making french fries.

    That is their decision, and they should have to live with the consequences.
  • Josh Ro... davidl 2012/01/02 18:51:55
    Josh Robinson  R.P.2012' PWCM.
    +1
    The wicked eugenicists of the first half of the 20th century (who still own the world) decided if you can't beat stupids by sterilizing or killing them outright then farm them with poor education and poisoned products... Today they produce sick stupids as a product because they have the infrastructure to profit from it now. The quick easy money is in the healing and the stealing and you need sick stupids for that.
  • davidl Josh Ro... 2012/01/02 19:38:56
    davidl
    +3
    Sick stupids? Wicked eugenicists? LOL.
  • Josh Ro... davidl 2012/01/02 20:07:31
    Josh Robinson  R.P.2012' PWCM.
    +1
    People used to be sent for sterilization if they scored low on tests or had physical imperfections. I would call the people in charge of that wicked and eugenicist. The people have a standardized barely adequate federal education system producing working-class citizens. The citizens are routinely bombarded with polys and free radicals that cause sickness and death. The scientists do studies which are submitted to the very people who are allowing toxic products on to the market. The brightest minds give science to the darkest minds to appropriate and we wonder why we live to around retirement then die of cancer or something just as preventable. With every keystroke the Bisphenol-A in the plastic keys of my keyboard are leaching into my skin and having an effect on my body. They mimic estrogen in the body and cause feminization. Boys have delayed puberty and lower testosterone and girls hyper-feminize starting cycles earlier and the excess estrogen leads to breast cancers and untimely aging.
  • davidl Josh Ro... 2012/01/02 20:35:23 (edited)
    davidl
    +2
    Sorry, but you sound too much like General Jack Ripper when he complained about his precious bodily fluids about a minute into the video)
  • Josh Ro... davidl 2012/01/03 14:13:37
  • davidl Josh Ro... 2012/01/03 15:00:15
    davidl
    If your keyboard was made out of plutonium, then you *could* absorb enough through your skin to hurt you, but Bisphenol-A ? Why not run the actual numbers yourself and let me know. I've got an open mind, convince me with the math.

    I've done work on something similar for government. Look for a document called Threshold Limit Values that is published by the ACGIH.They run the numbers for hazardous materials and tell you how much can be absorbed for a square mm of skin surface.

    Then you estimate surface area of fingertips, and how much time they are on the keyboard, and how much has been rubbed off. I replace my laptop every few years and rub the letters off. Even have an old dell keyboard I used when I was spending 8-10 hours a day writing code. Literally wore off the plastic on a few keys so there was a hole.

    You have me going. Do the math and convince me, but don't point me to some quack site that speaks of generalities.
  • Josh Ro... davidl 2012/01/03 15:59:42
  • davidl Josh Ro... 2012/01/04 04:53:30
    davidl
    Yep it is false, but I didn't want to be rude, I preferred you had run the numbers and see for yourself. Fingertips on keyboards, even bloody fingertips with open wounds won't have enough surface contact area to be detectable, and absorption is so low it doesn't even show p in the TLV book I have from last year.

    But better to learn for yourself then have somebody tell you ;) Plenty of bad stuff out there, but this isn't anything you need worry about.
  • Josh Ro... davidl 2012/01/04 05:09:39
    Josh Robinson  R.P.2012' PWCM.
    My point was almost everything we touch has harmful substances unnecessarily mixed in it... our fresh food comes in styrofoam with cellophane over it. Even products in glass have a plastic lined cap leaching toxic wastes into the food. There is no escape besides making your own food i.e. farming/preserving in ball jars with natural rubber sealers.
  • davidl Josh Ro... 2012/01/04 05:26:46
    davidl
    +1
    Now THAT makes sense. Food packaging is awful.
  • Josh Ro... davidl 2012/01/04 05:39:00
    Josh Robinson  R.P.2012' PWCM.
    It really is and it's a shame. That's what farming and jaring parchment and butchers are for. But publix just wraps it up in the plastic poly container and sets it out and people end up with that crap in their bodies... I know a few exposure isn't harmful but what about 40yrs? Smells like cancer to me. Kill them just before their benefits are worth earning. If everyone lived to 80-100+ we would be screwed, if we lived 35-70 that is do able but is no permit to play god.
  • davidl Josh Ro... 2012/01/04 05:49:01 (edited)
    davidl
    Many plastics are chemically inert, and simply will not react with anything. You've got that plastic in a garage, where you store gasoline for your lawn mower, or where you store hydrochloric acid for your pool.

    So not all plastics are a problem. Just, it seems, some they use for food packaging.
  • moonchild 2012/01/02 17:38:38
    Businesses
    moonchild
    +2
    Trade schools (reputable ones) do a great job preparing someone to enter the work force, but it's up to the employer to actually put them through training for their particular job description. The school sets the foundation, the rest is up to the business. It's called job experience- back in the day, employers paid people to work. Now they want people to pay for their own training along with everything else.

    Colleges can not begin to prepare people for the demands of every different job they may come across. All they can do is give the basics.
  • Ken 2012/01/02 17:31:39
    The government
    Ken
    +2
    and our incompetent education system.
  • Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO 2012/01/02 17:22:59
    Businesses
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    +4
    there was a time when businesses would actually train its employees. Now they want employees to start completely trained and then wonder why there are no qualified employees.
  • chgo 2012/01/02 17:11:08
    Businesses
    chgo
    +2
    Wall Street.

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