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Who Should Claim Martin Luther King's Legacy Today?

Cupe Doll August 29, 2010 02:46:54
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Daring Blasphemer asked: Was Martin Luther King a conservative? And personally? No, I don't think he was. Then again? I also don't think he was a progressive radical, either.

Honestly? This is a partisan fight to claim the legacy. And, damn it, both sides are wrong to do that.

MLK was more into personal responsibility than most anybody today. And, yes, he was surrounded by radical elements -- but he also sought to resist more divisive polemics. His brand of social justice was firmly grounded in principles of equality under the law -- not special entitlement under the law.

I just saw Al Sharpton on CNN. Dude said Glen Beck gave a good motivational speech -- but that it had nothing to do with civil rights. Ok, Mr. Sharpton, fair enough. But, look, that shoe fits your feet just as well.

What's Sharpton's first premise literally every time he alleges civil rights inequities? That's right -- income distribution disparity. How African American and Latino American incomes lag behind pink European incomes. Which, to Sharpton, has got to mean the discrimination conspiracy is alive and well.

But wait just a sec. Asian Americans actually make more money than pink European Americans. So, by Sharpton's logic? There must be discrimination against pink Americans relative to Asian Americans. Asian Americans are the most privileged. Everything is their fault.

See where I'm going with this? It's nothing Bill Cosby hasn't said. Concluding discrimination from income disparities alone isn't a civil rights argument. It's just more whining.

So, yeah. Sharpton's right that Beck's just giving motivational speeches and failing to address civil rights. But what Sharpton isn't telling is that he himself just keeps on whining -- the opposite of motivational speaking -- and equally fails to address civil rights issues.

It's no wonder everyone tries to claim the MLK legacy. Nobody today has his courage, his character, his moral fiber. They try to claim his legacy for their own partisan profit -- but, thank god almighty, they cannot. Because MLK was one of a kind. Because MLK stood far above the ideological divisions hobbling smaller men like Al Sharpton and Glen Beck.

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  • Dagon August 29, 2010 07:06:36
    Martin Luther King was a conservative
    Dagon
    +7
    How can any one claim an idea? From what I saw of king back in the day, he was after common sense and dignity for those who would seek it. So it is the idea , not the man that stands out.I hate to see king used like a ping pong ball, and used by black activists for causes that king did not endorse.

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  • Manwë October 10, 2010 18:49:02
    Martin Luther King was a radical progressive
    Manwë
    He was a radical and progressive in his day. Doesn't mean he is the same as today's progressives.

    The Republican Party then had a broad base of ideology. If you were Southern, you were a Republican (Progressive) and a Democrat if you were conservative (which included racists who wanted to keep Jim Crow laws). If you were Northern or from some other region of the country, it was not clear which party you would fit in based on your ideology since both parties accepted members with a variety of political views. There were no RINOs or DINOs in those days.
  • moomoof "Chi chi le le los... September 03, 2010 00:16:29
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    moomoof "Chi chi le le  los mineros de chile!!!"
    +2
    Martin luther king was someone that actually had honor that cared that believed in what he did ....he didn't label himself this and that.

    It is a shame that many people try to use him for their own advantage spitting on his legacy .......
    Do people even take history any more ...do they read at all?
  • Alejandra September 01, 2010 20:53:56
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    Alejandra
    +2
    There is'nt a Man or Woman alive today that is worthy of claiming Dr.Kings Legacy..nobody thinks his way anymore..the people that have tried all have done it for recognition and power, not to unify the races or to bring peace or Fairness..because of what they say We have not achieved Equality.
  • Tombsto... Alejandra September 01, 2010 21:14:07
    TombstoneJim
    +2
    A great man and a wonderfully gifted orator - his I Have A Dream speech is just so great that it is impossible to listen and not be made better by it. I listen to his address and the read the writings of CS Lewis and am amazed at such depth of human understanding in such differing environments, but both arriving at the same Lord.

    It may sound cruel, but I think the assassination of Dr. King was needed to cement his legacy and to ensure that his words did not fade. I know that we miss him terribly and it should be so, but the martyr’s death is never in vain, if his words live on and on…and so shall his...his blood, that was shed by assasins cries unto heaven, while the earth lauds his fame.....
  • Alejandra Tombsto... September 01, 2010 21:17:53
    Alejandra
    +1
    Sadly enough you're right..and the same goes for John Lennon. most never thought about his Beautiful messege until he was gone, and since assasination it will never be forgotten.!
  • Tombsto... Alejandra September 01, 2010 22:17:12
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    I have a little problem with John's Imagine song....it smacks of atheism to me..
  • Zozo September 01, 2010 20:46:01
  • Tombsto... Zozo September 01, 2010 21:08:24
    TombstoneJim
    +2
    Thank you for sharing that marvelous song and I noticed that the cry was to the Lord for that love and we definitely need to seek Him to understand that universal concept of oneness that He represents.

    Everytime I hear King's I Have A Dream speech it moves me and inspires me, go and listen to it on occasion along with the writing of a fellow by the name of Spencer W. Kimball - he to came raise your eyes to a far horizon where goodness and mercy shall surely follow all your days....
  • Zozo Tombsto... September 01, 2010 21:13:27
  • Queen B August 31, 2010 20:17:49
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    Queen B
    +1
    Martin Luther King was his own man and cannot be defined in political terms. But Glen Beck is sure as hell no replacement to "claim his legacy". Beck is nothing more than a blowhard, money grubbing, self aggrandizing buffoon - nothing more, nothing less.
  • Superman save us August 31, 2010 06:21:52 (edited)
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    Superman save us
    +1
    who cares what he was? charles manson was a conservative but i dont think they are all like him.
  • Andrew August 31, 2010 00:39:07
    Martin Luther King was a conservative
    Andrew
    +1
    He stood up for equal rights and did not hate like others would, so he showed us that we can stand up for right things peacefully.
  • Janster August 30, 2010 18:50:57
    Martin Luther King was a conservative
    Janster
    +1
    King was, by today's standards, a conservative. Easy to look up. He was a good man. I wish he was alive to today to deal with the racially divisive Otraitor and his group.
  • LoveYah August 30, 2010 15:45:11
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    LoveYah
    +2
    Who Should Claim Martin Luther King's Legacy Today? EVERYONE. Because it was meant for everyone.
  • ronbo51 LoveYah August 30, 2010 16:41:55
    ronbo51
    +2
    very true statement. thanks. doesnt need a whole bunch of rhertoric... neither. thanks !!

    he was a champion of the oppressed, downtrodded people of any race.
    as far as politics. cant compare to anyone today nor the politics of then!.
    todays world is not what he totally envisioned.
  • Jack August 30, 2010 05:59:41
  • Babel Fish August 30, 2010 05:26:10
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    Babel Fish
    +1
    King was not a conservative and that's easy to look up

    Martin Luther King, Jr. (January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968) was an American clergyman, activist, and prominent leader in the African American civil rights movement. He is best known for being an iconic figure in the advancement of civil rights in the United States and around the world. Also a leader of the Christian left in the 20th Century, he is often considered representative in the history of modern American liberalism.

    He was in fact a populist, not really a person with a political based drive but a human rights one.
  • tootien August 30, 2010 01:17:35
    Martin Luther King was bigger than paltry ideological divisions
    tootien
    +2
    I don't think that he was a racial bigot like Sharpton, I think he wanted to see a day where we could look at a person without seeing the color of skin - I'm sad that this day is still far away for so many
  • Manuel tootien August 30, 2010 05:04:02
    Manuel
    for so many whites?
  • tootien Manuel August 30, 2010 05:19:35
    tootien
    nope, for so many everythings - but as people get to know each other one on one they learn that a racial difference isn't that big of a deal - whites, browns, reds, blacks, yellows, on Mars probably greens, all can harbor prejudice
  • Manuel tootien August 30, 2010 05:48:39
    Manuel
    +1
    Well American history shows us that black and all other racism's has evolved out of white racism. That's why we still have racism today in this country. In this country Whites hated all other races first....
  • Houizi Manuel August 30, 2010 10:07:33 (edited)
    Houizi
    +2
    You sound like you're trying to impress someone. Like my liberal daughter (she didn't get it from me). She's trying to be so liberal and open-minded that all her brains fell out.
  • Manuel Houizi August 30, 2010 17:10:10
    Manuel
    Here more for you dude.....If Beck was so interested in getting the country together ..He could have said to Black America," We apologize for the 400 years of wrong we did to you and now we are all gonna help each others and move on to the kind of America that will bury this racist hatch". Saying something like that would have blown peoples minds and would have be a historic event on such a Historic day...but of course that just wasn't going to happen, but that would have really been laying the real ground work for restoring Honor to America....
  • Houizi Manuel September 08, 2010 00:31:46
    Houizi
    It's been said too many times. We The People have had our bellies ENGORGED with that lame rhetoric and are sick of it. The blacks don't want words - they want money or more entitlements.
    In the first place, my ancestors, like many other Americans, didn't get here until after the civil war. Personally, I owe them nothing.
    Second - when these "slave descendants" (if in fact they actually ARE descendants) start getting freebies, they always want more. Just like any other liberal. It's time to stop that; we're going broke trying to make people feel good.
  • Manuel Houizi September 09, 2010 03:59:10
    Manuel
    I think you really misunderstood the point here...Blacks don't want hand outs or welfare or freebies. That's what Conservatives want to believe. That's what Republicans push. Blacks want good jobs and to live in decent hoods...but they were dealt the hand that was dealt to them by this country. They could not move ahead without being granted civil rights for over 160 years. Let me put it in a more easy light for you. Say your 20 and behind bars for something that was not your fault. If the judge says your free but never sends the guard to unlock your cell for 55 years, then how free where you to do the things you wanted in your life? That's what happen to blacks.
    So the least they should have is an American apology. Now it will not solve every single problem , but it will help bring the country together.
    If America want to survive as a nation we have to do something about racism or that will be our down fall. We will never make it as a people into the next century.
  • Cupe Doll Manuel August 30, 2010 22:11:26
    Cupe Doll
    I just raved you because you wrote the most ridiculous comment yet. Congratulations.
  • Manuel Cupe Doll August 30, 2010 22:14:12
    Manuel
    Actually raving me means you approve.lol...and prove why it's a ridiculous comment.
  • Cupe Doll Manuel August 31, 2010 01:09:30
    Cupe Doll
    That's right -- I approve when someone can be ridiculous in that really big, larger than life kind'a way. Because that takes what would otherwise only be pathetic and turns it into slapstick.

    As to how ridiculous your comment was? I hope you're not serious. Do you really need me to explain your own ridicule?
  • Manuel Cupe Doll August 31, 2010 02:22:40
    Manuel
    You are one of those racist people that thinks you are not one...lol
  • Cupe Doll Manuel August 31, 2010 15:15:08
    Cupe Doll
    And let me assure you how critical your semi-literate insight is. However, since it's becoming abundantly clear your original comments, however ridiculous, were not intended as comedy? That apology you're still waiting for has long since been issued. By Civil War.
  • Manuel Cupe Doll August 31, 2010 15:39:18
    Manuel
    Do you think it was right to free the blacks and then deny them there Civil rights for a 170 years?
  • Cupe Doll Manuel August 31, 2010 17:48:42
    Cupe Doll
    170 years? Let's see. The Civil War ended in 1865, right? So, after 170 years, that makes it 2035.

    So let me guess what you're getting at here. You believe black people have no civil rights today -- but in 2035 you plan to lead an insurrection to change all that.

    Good for you, Moses. Nevermind reality -- just keep on dreaming.
  • Manuel Cupe Doll August 31, 2010 18:51:39 (edited)
    Manuel
    ok smarty ...they didn't have civil rights until 1960's ..so again Do you think it was right to free the blacks and then deny them there Civil rights up until 1960's...?
  • Cupe Doll Manuel August 31, 2010 19:45:41
    Cupe Doll
    Ah -- that's different, isn't it. Let's be clear on this. You retract those 170 years? And you now admit blacks have full Civil Rights today?
  • Manuel Cupe Doll August 31, 2010 20:15:07
    Manuel
    Yes they have civil rights today but I can only retract 64 years dude... back to the question no veering this time.....Do you think it was right to free the blacks and then deny them there Civil rights up until 1960's...?
  • Cupe Doll Manuel August 31, 2010 21:27:48
    Cupe Doll
    It was right to abolish slavery. It is good that blacks have full civil rights today. And it was unfortunate and wrong that relatively full Civil Rights took so long to become established for blacks.

    It was, of course, neither right nor wrong to "free the blacks and then deny them their Civil Rights". Nobody ever said or decided to free the blacks just to deny their Civil Rights. Your question is, like, asking if it's right to give to charity and be flatulent. It's an absurdly false conjunction.

    The question if it took too long for black Civil Rights to become established -- if that's what you're getting at -- is a good one, though. Martin Luther King would probably have had a very interesting answer to that.
  • Manuel Cupe Doll August 31, 2010 23:38:59
    Manuel
    Again, I don't need a long drawn out speech on how you call it...it's just a simple yes or no answer...

    So which is it? Yes Or No.....
  • Cupe Doll Manuel September 01, 2010 00:34:20
    Cupe Doll
    Already answered above. And why even tell me what you do or don't need? We haven't even been introduced.
  • Manuel Cupe Doll September 01, 2010 04:34:04 (edited)
    Manuel
    That's the conservative for ya folks....they can never answer a simple question with a yes or no...always got to beat around the Bush....no pun intended ...lol check mate dude.
  • Cupe Doll Manuel September 01, 2010 11:32:56
    Cupe Doll
    Manuel would really, truly love us to believe it won some game. Unfortunately? Manuel can't even ask a coherent question.

    That's why it's hard to believe Manuel won any game. Because if it can't even speak coherently -- how can it possibly be playing chess?

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