Who Said It: Bush or Obama?

Tink123 2012/03/11 03:00:07
Who Said It: Bush or Obama?

When it comes to their rhetoric on Iran,
there's less distance between the cowboy and the community organizer
than you might think.


With Super Tuesday in full
swing, the Republican presidential candidates are once again distancing
themselves from Barack Obama's approach to Iran's nuclear
program, which the U.S. president outlined
in an address to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) on
Sunday, March 4. Rick Santorum has
Obama of "appeasement" and turning "his back on the people of
Israel," while Mitt Romney has promised to confront the "thugs and tyrants" in
Iran with "our resolve, backed by our power and our readiness to use it." But,
as the New
York Times
noted on Tuesday, the muscular rhetoric obscures the many
similarities between the policies espoused by Obama and his Republican rivals.

Conventional wisdom holds
that Obama couldn't be more different from his predecessor when it comes to
Iran. George W. Bush
wouldn't negotiate with Iran until it suspended its uranium-enrichment process.
Obama initially
talked about
dropping the precondition, though he later compromised on the
Bush marveled
that "some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and
radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong
all along." Obama vowed
to extend a hand "if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist."
Bush once observed
that after decades of sanctions against Iran, "We're out of sanctions." Obama has
his Iran strategy on his ability to build international consensus
around tougher economic sanctions to put a "world of hurt" on Iranian leaders.

Obama has played up these
differences. "When I took office, the efforts to apply pressure on Iran were in
tatters," Obama informed
AIPAC on March 4. "Iran had gone from zero centrifuges spinning to thousands,
without facing broad pushback from the world. In the region, Iran was ascendant
-- increasingly popular and extending its reach. In other words, the Iranian leadership
was united and on the move, and the international community was divided about
how to go forward."

But the chasm, in terms of
rhetoric and strategy, may not be as wide as you think. For evidence, we invite
you to play Foreign Policy's favorite
new game
-- Who said it: Bush or

1. "I have always said that all options are on table, but the first
option for the United States is to solve this problem diplomatically.
That is why we've been pursuing multilateral diplomacy."

Answer 1: George W. Bush

2. "The Iranians and the Syrians are acting irresponsibly inside Iraq.
They perceive that it is a way to leverage or impact or weaken us at a
time when they're worried about United States action in a broader

Answer 2: Barack Obama

3. "Our opposition to Iran's intolerance and Iran's repressive measures,
as well as its illicit nuclear program and its support of terror, is
well known."

Answer 3: Barack Obama

4. "We need more
sanctions. The next step is for the Europeans and the United States and Russia
and China to understand that diplomacy only works if there are consequences.…
And what the Middle East does not need is a nuclear arms race."

Answer 4: George W.

5. "[Iran's leaders are] a tough, tough crowd to negotiate with. They've
got the classic 'principal-to-non-principal' negotiating strategy
available for them."

Answer 5: George W. Bush

6. "If Iran respects its international obligations and embraces freedom
and tolerance, it will have no better friend than the United States of

Answer 6: George W. Bush

7. "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are tiny compared to the
Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet
Union posed a threat to us."

Answer 7: Barack Obama

8. "The doctrine of prevention is to work together to prevent the Iranians
from having a nuclear weapon.… I know here in Washington prevention means
force. It doesn't mean force necessarily. In this case it means diplomacy."

Answer 8: George W. Bush

9. "Iran's nuclear program -- a threat that has the potential to bring
together the worst rhetoric about Israel's destruction with the world's
most dangerous weapons."

Answer 9: Barack Obama

10. "You, too, have a choice. The United States wants the Islamic
Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of
nations. You have that right -- but it comes with real responsibilities,
and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather
through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the
Iranian people and civilization."

Answer 10: Barack Obama

11. "This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran
is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the

Answer 11: George W. Bush

12. "We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy
Israel.… So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War
III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having
the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

Answer 12: George
W. Bush

13. "Should the Iranian regime -- do they have the sovereign right to
have civilian nuclear power?… If I were you, that's what I'd ask me. And
the answer is, yes, they do."

Answer 13: George W. Bush

14. "We stand with the girl who yearns to go to school in Afghanistan;
we support the human rights of the women marching through the streets of
Iran; and we advocate for the young man denied a job by corruption in
Guinea. For America must always stand on the side of freedom and human

Answer 14: Barack Obama

15. "Our message to the people of Iran is clear: We have no quarrel with
you, we respect your traditions and your history, and we look forward
to the day when you have your freedom.

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  • Larson Whipsnade 2012/03/15 22:24:46
    Larson Whipsnade
    You just KNOW that if the current administration decides to start a war with Iran, they will find some way to say it was the Republican's fault
  • LAAD Gunner - USMC 2012/03/12 19:30:27
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    It's all just rhetoric anyway, we're going to go to war with Iran, I'd guarantee it. Both Bush and Obama know that. Remember it's always opposite day in Washington, they say one thing but do the other.
  • Tink123 LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 19:32:37
    Afraid you may be right about that. Last thing we need is more war.
  • LAAD Gu... Tink123 2012/03/12 19:46:54
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    I'd also be willing to bet that it'll will start with another terrorist attack or staged threat from Iran.
  • Tink123 LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 19:51:30 (edited)
    I think that's really where the whole deal with Panetta saying Israel was planning to attack Iran came from - trying to stir stuff up over there in an effort to get Iran to react. Don't get me wrong, their* govt. is an aggressor govt., but there's not much we can do about that and we've certainly no reason to invade their country.
  • LAAD Gu... Tink123 2012/03/12 19:56:57
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    "Our" government is the real agressor government. Only difference is "our" government pretends not to be.
  • Tink123 LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 20:12:51
    Exactly - and we've created enemies all over the world where the originally were none.
  • LAAD Gu... Tink123 2012/03/12 20:58:45
  • ConLibF... LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 21:29:43
    Correct again! Another 911 false flag is on the horizon!
  • LAAD Gu... ConLibF... 2012/03/12 22:09:48
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
  • ConLibF... LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 22:15:16
    Always great to meet those that see the truth!!!
  • LAAD Gu... ConLibF... 2012/03/12 22:24:20
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    The problem is too many are afraid of the truth and don't want to believe it, thus they lie to themselves.
  • ConLibF... LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 22:27:33
    Thus I coined this ...

    America ... The Divided States of Denial ... Land of the Sheep and Home of the Slave!
  • LAAD Gu... ConLibF... 2012/03/12 22:28:54
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    That is scarily true.
  • ConLibF... LAAD Gu... 2012/03/12 21:29:18
    Correct and their lying treasonous media reports their lies!
  • keeper 2012/03/12 17:33:12
    Go figure...
  • Latti Ice Nerd Gangsta of P... 2012/03/12 16:35:28
  • Tink123 Latti I... 2012/03/12 17:50:01
    My sentiments exactly =)
  • U-Dog 2012/03/12 15:41:10
    Simply mix up the names and the comments and it would make absolutely no difference whatsoever. The war mongers are all just alike.
  • DeeB 2012/03/11 17:33:28
    Probably because they have the same damned writers, the NWO!!!!! http://femalefaust.blogspot.c...
  • Tink123 2012/03/11 16:45:23 (edited)
    "This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table."

    Good ole' G.W. - master of contradiction. That one reminds me of another from him...

    "We have to abandon free market principles to save the free market."

    WTF? It's becoming clearer and clearer by the day...
  • Latti I... Tink123 2012/03/12 16:33:08
  • irish 2012/03/11 16:31:07
  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/03/11 16:22:09
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    HA ha ha! I'm not even going to TRY discriminating 'tween these two lucifarians. Not an ounce of difference imho.
  • Boblawbla 2012/03/11 15:36:59
    One party, two faces....
  • mich52 2012/03/11 14:03:29
  • irish mich52 2012/03/11 16:31:28
    but he didn't.
  • mich52 irish 2012/03/11 19:28:13
  • irish mich52 2012/03/12 14:30:19 (edited)
    i didn't lie, what a ridiculous assertion ,i said he didn't ,meaning he did not destroy the taliban. they haven't gone anywhere and the terrorists are the u.s. military.
  • mich52 irish 2012/03/12 14:54:12
  • rocat mich52 2012/03/12 14:35:32
    looking for love in all the wrong places...
  • hari 2012/03/11 13:50:17
    not me
  • curt 2012/03/11 12:18:02
    It does not matter who said what.
    Each one was told to say this or that based on the public attitude
    for that week or month.Hopefully the speech writers got it right.
    PS Iran has been a problem since 1979.
    Nothing new about this.
  • ConLibF... curt 2012/03/12 21:33:18
    Maybe you should deprogram yourself and get up to speed on truth. Here is a good start ...

  • ed 2012/03/11 12:17:55
    both have their faults obama just has a few more than Bush and one I don't think Bush was a socialist like obama is.
  • ConLibF... ed 2012/03/12 21:34:39
    Socialist is just a distraction. They are NWO puppets who have orders to destroy America.
  • ed ConLibF... 2012/03/12 23:37:36
    I know we are not going to let that happen now are we?We have to hit the NWO at its roots.I hate to mention this but if some well known NWO folks went missing .
  • ConLibF... ed 2012/03/12 23:39:46
    Now this is my kind of conversation!!!!
  • Richard Hungwell AKA Relent... 2012/03/11 08:38:03
  • safari 2012/03/11 07:52:37
    I don't make a lot of friends on either side when I compare the two - and there is much to compare - in many ways obama is like Bush on Steroids -

    obama bush cousins

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