Who Misses the Kennedy's in Politics? Let's face it, they are non-existent in politics right now. I like that!

Young woman in Cap Cod feel safer that's for sure.

True!!! ;)

best know as the political dynasty the papa joe bought

Uncle Teddy was one of the most despicable human beings on the planet. I hope bugs eat his innards for eternity.

I agree and me too ken!

Hi Ken!

Hi Bessie! How's it goin'?

Good Ken! Just livin' life!

Im not sure really.

Why not?

I wasnt around then hun. So i can only go by what i have read and well....thats not at all good. lol. Im just youngester lol

Okay then!

lol xoxoxo bessie xoxoxo lol

I Never thought I live to see this day when Ted died it was the end of their rule !!!!!!---Sex scandle what to miss !!!!!!!

They are good for conversation Bessie

Always fun to pick on ol Teddy.

I do give credit for Bobby and John for attempting to change and trying to do the right thing towards the end. The rest of his family for the most part are shady characters.

Bobby yes but really John really didn't do much except open the doors for the Vietnam War

He did, but John towards the end and I do mean towards the very end was having a change of heart.

I lived in that period, no he wasn't. He has been made into a demagogue and built up with myth and legend. Both LBJ and Nixon did more than JFK ever would have.

Nixon record is horrid and LBJ was ok; it's not to build up a legend. As I stated before, towards the end when him and Hoover were butting heads in addition to talks of him wanting to end the Feds. Those facts are documented and describes a change of heart.

Johson did do well at the idea of Civil rights but the way he and Mcnamara micromanaged the war was criminal!

Of course; he did a few things right and was a total wreck in many other areas.

He knew!

Yup; he should have ended it, but pride can be a self inflicting emotion.

Really and where are they documented. And I believe it was Bobby that was at odds with Hoover.

Certain measures JFK was taking to End The Feds or start at lessening power the Feds had over U.S currency among other things. JFK and Hoover relationship become more toxic, because Hoover was keeping secret files on JFK adultery ways and the females he had cheated on with. He was tired of being pulled by the string which kept the two clashing.

Bobby was even more at odds with Hoover, because way before JFK started to have his problems with him, Bobby did. He didn't like the way Hoover handled things and how manipulative he ways.

possible some of that is true especially in Bobby. But you say there is documentation about ending the Fed (which I doubt, his family is too tired into big money). As for the toxic relationship with Hoover it seems his motivation was purely self serving and for no other reason the way you state it. I would love to see the documentation you spoke about.

"Those facts are documented and describes a change of heart."

He stated it in his speech and some measurements that were attempted to take place within Congress. Most if his annoyance towards Hoover were self serving on JFK end, but not all of it. As I stated earlier; He wanted to try and do right towards the end.

Really I don't remember him saying or me reading he was having a change of heart. You made claims they were documented. When did you read this documentation. What speech did he make these claims? Personally I think JFK was an okay president but he did not and does not live up to the myths about him. He was raised on a pedestal because of his assassination not because of any accomplishments.

As to what takes in Congress that is a congressional action not presidential or executive action.

Congressional legislation is left up to the Legislative branch, but a president can be an advocate for certain measures. An example of this even though it was a bad idea was the Affordable Healthcare Act passed by Congress and signed by Obama.

So when I state JFK wanted to implement certain measures; he wanted to influence Congress to side with him on this issue. As for the myths about JFK; that is just different perspectives for different people. Some could be true and some could be false; no one ever look at historical figures in the same light any of way. One man's hero is another man's villain.

I'm not making claims; it's stated and was implied during a speech of JFK as to wanting the Feds to lose some of the powers that is sustains. That is far from stating JFK died, because he was against the Feds as some Conspiracy Theorists like to suggest.

Again all conjecture and your belief. I am not saying he didn't want to do things but there is no evidence for it either. That makes it myth. You claimed it is documented and verifiable. So all I am asking is for you to name your sources and documentation, that you claimed. What speech did he talk about curtailing the Fed in?

http://www.archives.gov/feder...

"On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business."

But they weren't and aren't and it has been revoked. Also the main part of that is about the government not the people or the country. He also attempted with it to give more power to the idiots in the congress.

Plus by that time I think it was more Bobby's idea

My point is he tried, and if it was more of Bobby's idea; it just shows he was willing to grow and he at least had one person in the family who was a good influence on him.

Look I am not arguing with you. I prefer fact or myth. You buy the JFK myth. He was at best an average president whose whole career war bought from him. And actually he was not his father's first choice for the offices he held but his dead brother Joe's replacement. He really didn't do anything in office. His big claim to fame should be that he ushered in the age of he/she/it has the most money will be elected politics.

JFK long live the myth

Correction; you're complaining about a myth that wasn't even brought up. Number one, never stated he was the best or a great president. Number two, never stated he won due to great ideas or to limit government.

What I did state is; towards the end he tried, and his brother Bobby was the only good influence on him from that family. I also stated he tried to lessen the Federal Reserves power. Those are the things I retorted; not claims of him being a good man who was a superhero.

Not looking for an argument either; just calmly stating the facts.

the fact is he really did very little

The fact is; you're talking about a myth that was never brought up.

My points:

1) Attempted to End The Feds

2) Tried towards the end.

Points that you are dismissing and trying to spin it as me calling him the greatest president ever.

you are reading way to much into my posts. It may well be better if we end this.