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  • art1ej 2012/10/15 18:43:57
    Willard Mitt Romney
    art1ej
    EASILY...
  • C:\DOS> 2012/09/23 03:08:59
    Other
    C:\DOS>
    Cute. Just what Sodahead needs - yet another excuse for Obama and Romney supporters to scream at each other, disguised as yet another pointless poll. c'mon, folks, don't fall for it.
  • BILL 2012/09/21 23:20:01
    President Barack Obama
    BILL
    OBAMBI ALL THE WAY
  • fudge35 2012/09/21 20:35:37
    Willard Mitt Romney
    fudge35
    +1
    It has to be Mitt the Twit!! Haven't been able to see any lies from Obama during this campaign, But the Flip Flopper has had a ton of them. But it doesn't seem to matter who's running, the right wing lies all the time. This is what extremist do. They have to lie, because their agenda is so narrow, and extreme that they have to convince people to vote for them, and the only way is to lie. This is why they have done voter suppression for so long, their chances are better to win when the vote is low!!!
  • frank 2012/09/21 17:24:02
    President Barack Obama
    frank
    Nobrains Omama is unable to tell the truth!
  • toni 2012/09/21 14:57:11
    None of the above
    toni
    Truth has a tendency to bite the dust once you get involved in politics at a high level.
  • 9th of 9 2012/09/21 11:27:07
    Other
    9th of 9
    +2
    They BOTH lie, and they BOTH suck at it.
  • marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS 2012/09/21 04:17:30 (edited)
    President Barack Obama
    marcuss LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
    +1
    How many lies need to be presented? Is gitmo closed?

    Obama Lies so Far

    Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie Submit the lie here.
    Lies During Fourth Year

    Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
    Factcheck.org

    My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
    Factcheck.org

    “I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
    House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)

    The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
    Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

    “You Didn’t Build that”
    A few examples
    Lies During Third Year

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    How many lies need to be presented? Is gitmo closed?

    Obama Lies so Far

    Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie Submit the lie here.
    Lies During Fourth Year

    Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
    Factcheck.org

    My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
    Factcheck.org

    “I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
    House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)

    The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
    Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

    “You Didn’t Build that”
    A few examples
    Lies During Third Year

    I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
    Youtube

    In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
    www.breitbart.com

    I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
    Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza

    Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
    Examiner

    “Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
    Like Raising taxes?

    Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
    He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.

    GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
    Dems Rejected Jobs Bill

    You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
    Gallup Poll: Only 69%

    These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
    Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama

    Jobs Bill Paid for
    Seems not so much Paid for

    Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
    Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11

    I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
    American.com

    USA producing more oil than ever before
    Petroleum Insights

    Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
    Department of Homeland Security says 5%

    Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
    National Taxpayers Union

    Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
    Cnn Interview
    Lies During Second Year

    Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.
    nationalreview.com

    No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
    Obama Lies to Keep Czars

    No “boots” on the ground Libya
    Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground

    Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
    Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

    All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
    Obama Memo

    I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
    Obama’s Schedule

    The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
    Campaign and Presidency

    If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
    TownHall

    “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
    U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

    ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
    Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

    We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
    Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010

    Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
    Arizona Immigration Law

    Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
    Claims never documented



    The Health Care Package will pay for itself
    Time

    Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
    Hmm Immigration?



    We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
    Democratic Debate Lies

    Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas
    Video Proof

    I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
    Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.

    I got the Message from Massachusetts
    Daily Bail
    Lies During First Year

    We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
    AP fact Checker

    Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
    AP fact Checker

    Collective salvation
    Obama calls himself a Christian

    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
    Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009

    Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
    Associated Press Video

    Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
    Obama Lies

    As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
    ABC



    Recovery Act will save or create jobs
    ABC News

    Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
    Obama Lies

    No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
    CNN

    I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
    Specator.Org

    We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
    Obama Lies

    I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
    NPR

    Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
    Council on Foreign Relations.

    Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
    Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
    List of Tax Promise Violations
    2008 Campaign Lies

    I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
    Youtube

    No more wiretapping of citizens
    Youtube

    Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
    News Busters

    I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
    United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

    Obama campaign would accept public funding
    ABC

    Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
    A Socialist

    Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
    Mounting Heath Care Lies

    Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
    Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

    Would have the most transparent administration in History
    Cato Institute

    We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
    Boston Globe

    I have visited all 57 states.
    Snopes

    I’ll get rid of earmarks
    Source: Any bill passed during presidency

    When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
    Campaign Speech

    My father served in World War II.
    The Videos and the Facts

    Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
    News Video

    Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
    YouTube

    Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
    He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.

    Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
    NPR

    I Won Michigan
    Huffington Post

    I won Nevada
    The Nation

    I don’t Have Lobbyists
    US News

    My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
    Crooks and Liars

    I Have Always Been Against Iraq
    Washington Post

    My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
    CNN

    Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
    Obama Campaign Video

    I Barely Know Rezko
    Sun Times

    My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
    ABC News
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  • Veritas CLM *First Sedition* 2012/09/21 03:16:10
    Undecided
    Veritas CLM *First Sedition*
  • Carl 2012/09/21 03:06:44
    President Barack Obama
    Carl
    +2
    Hands down for the President. Good thing he has Joe B next to him.
  • home run Carl 2012/10/08 18:07:55
    home run
    +4
    Obama, I will cut the deficit, I will lower the unemployment rate to 5%, I will work with congress, I never heard rev Wright say anything even though I was listening for 20 years, Obama care will lower costs, I will close the terroist prison in Guantanimo, Holder didn't know anything, I can go on for hours
  • Me 2012/09/21 02:59:07
    Other
    Me
    +2
    Both are
  • The.Z.Viru5 2012/09/21 02:57:55
    Other
    The.Z.Viru5
    +2
    Both of them.
  • CAROLYN NTARWNJBS 2012/09/21 02:09:48
    Willard Mitt Romney
    CAROLYN NTARWNJBS
    +2
    When does Romney tell a truth?
  • Patent1 2012/09/21 01:51:33
    Willard Mitt Romney
    Patent1
    +1
    With a VP named Lyin Ryan, is there any doubt?
  • none 2012/09/21 01:22:00
    President Barack Obama
    none
    +4
    Obama should have proved that to anyone willing to listen and pay attention.
  • Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/09/21 00:27:14
    Other
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +3
    "BOTH" should be an option, and if it was, should have 100% of the vote.
  • Tarheel 2012/09/21 00:03:30
    Willard Mitt Romney
    Tarheel
    +2
    Mittens has lied quite often.
  • realityjunkie 2012/09/20 23:58:31
    Willard Mitt Romney
    realityjunkie
    +3
    He has flip flopped on MAJOR issues. He will say anything to get the job.
  • American Girl 2012/09/20 23:41:33
    President Barack Obama
    American Girl
  • De verdad 2012/09/20 23:41:17
    Other
    De verdad
    All politicans lie about something
  • Steve ☮... De verdad 2012/09/21 00:28:12
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    Something? Try EVERYTHING.
  • De verdad Steve ☮... 2012/09/21 00:32:34
    De verdad
    I disagree.
  • Steve ☮... De verdad 2012/09/21 00:39:34
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    OK.
  • SilsbeeTX40@aol.com 2012/09/20 23:30:43
    Other
    SilsbeeTX40@aol.com
    +1
    Both. All politicians lie. Hell, all Popes, potentates, preachers, rabbi', ministers, Ayatollah's, whatever, lie, too. It's just that some of them lie better than others do. Lying is an art form. The more successful a politician, most likely the bigger liar he/she is.
  • dallasjoe 2012/09/20 23:23:45
    Willard Mitt Romney
    dallasjoe
    +2
    Sadly unlike most of REAL AMERICANS he Willard is a MORMON and you can not drink so you can not the TRUTH of what he Believes since he does not drink you can never get what he truly Believes
  • Keeping It Real 2012/09/20 23:01:03
    Willard Mitt Romney
    Keeping It Real
    +3
    A pathological one at that!
  • gregaj7 2012/09/20 22:58:12
    Other
    gregaj7
    +3
    Both!!!
  • Eddie 2012/09/20 22:34:02
    Other
    Eddie
    +1
    They are both politicians who are gonna tell you whatever they think they can get away with and to get people to vote for them.
  • shane 2012/09/20 22:06:17
    Other
    shane
    +1
    BOTH!
    They are politicians therefore they are both full of hot air and false promises

    As Socrates said:
    No good men can survive in politics.
  • les_gvt 2012/09/20 22:04:19
    Other
    les_gvt
    They are both politicians, they both lie
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/09/20 21:54:38
    Other
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    Both....it's just WE have heard the Presidents as so for nearly 4 years!
  • melly~thwarting Satan since... 2012/09/20 21:52:05
    Willard Mitt Romney
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
  • Kiosk Kid 2012/09/20 21:39:47
    President Barack Obama
    Kiosk Kid
    +3
    Let's try facts. Obama said he created 4.5 million jobs.

    There were 135.253 million unadjusted non farm Payroll jobs in Dec 2008 and 134.057 in June of 2012.

    Obama lost 1.2 million jobs since taking office.

    Preliminary figures show there will only be 133.092 million Non farm Payroll jobs in August 2012, so Obama will have lost over 2 million jobs since taking office if the preliminary numbers turn out to be true.

    http://data.bls.gov/pdq/Surve...
    Select total non farm payroll (Not Seasonally Adjusted) and run the report

    Therefore, Obama is producing somewhat the truth from BLS but totally lying in what he claims in public.
  • mark Kiosk Kid 2012/09/20 23:06:07
    mark
    +3
    Dude I don't know where you're getting your garbage from but its total right wing bs!!
  • Kiosk Kid mark 2012/09/20 23:44:08
    Kiosk Kid
    I got my facts from Obama. I provided the reference
    http://data.bls.gov/pdq/Surve...

    Select total non farm payroll (Not Seasonally Adjusted) and run the report


    Are you saying that Obama produces B.S? Are you calling Obama a liar? If you are on welfare Obama may cancel your welfare dude.Then what are you going to do? Are you going to get a job?

    I knew this Liberal that got a job flipping hamburgers.

    One day someone passed him a hamburger to wrap; the Liberal got confused; thought it was welfare and scraffed it down.

    Isn't that just like a Liberal?
  • C:\DOS> Kiosk Kid 2012/09/23 03:31:09 (edited)
    C:\DOS>
    Obama spins the numbers left, you spin them right. What's the difference?

    When Obama took office in Jan. 2009, the economy was shedding 800,000 jobs per month. And the graph was still plummeting downward. The minute Obama moved into 1600 Penn. Ave., the graph reversed direction. It took Obama over a year to drag the job numbers back into positive territory because they were buried so deep by the previous administration. Result: Obama lost almost as many jobs in his first year as Bush did in his last. The difference is the direction of the graph. Since the end of the Great Recession (generally pegged at June, 2009), the economy has created some 4.5 million jobs (the number the Democrats are touting), to bring Obama back to break even in 3.5 years. And last month was the 23rd consecutive month of job gains under Obama.

    One could go on to discuss the quality of the replacement jobs, counter the dropping unemployment rate by noting much of it is due to people dropping out of the job market, and on and on. There is plenty of room to spin in either direction.

    For example: Obama has been clear that he has created 4.5 million jobs SINCE MID-2010, and does not limit himself to non-farm payroll numbers. Why? It makes his record look better than it is.

    Conversely, you attempt to stretch his...

    Obama spins the numbers left, you spin them right. What's the difference?

    When Obama took office in Jan. 2009, the economy was shedding 800,000 jobs per month. And the graph was still plummeting downward. The minute Obama moved into 1600 Penn. Ave., the graph reversed direction. It took Obama over a year to drag the job numbers back into positive territory because they were buried so deep by the previous administration. Result: Obama lost almost as many jobs in his first year as Bush did in his last. The difference is the direction of the graph. Since the end of the Great Recession (generally pegged at June, 2009), the economy has created some 4.5 million jobs (the number the Democrats are touting), to bring Obama back to break even in 3.5 years. And last month was the 23rd consecutive month of job gains under Obama.

    One could go on to discuss the quality of the replacement jobs, counter the dropping unemployment rate by noting much of it is due to people dropping out of the job market, and on and on. There is plenty of room to spin in either direction.

    For example: Obama has been clear that he has created 4.5 million jobs SINCE MID-2010, and does not limit himself to non-farm payroll numbers. Why? It makes his record look better than it is.

    Conversely, you attempt to stretch his claim out over the entirety of his time in office, and insist on only talking about non-farm payroll jobs.Why? Because it makes Obama's record look worse.

    Spin. Everyone does it.
    (more)
  • Kiosk Kid C:\DOS> 2012/09/23 22:00:00 (edited)
    Kiosk Kid
    No you spewing party line crap. The Marxist has lost over a million jobs. If pelinary data for August is true, The Marxist will have lost 2 million jobs according to Obama's BLS. Let me provide you the reference again.

    There were 135.253 million unadjusted non farm Payroll jobs in Dec 2008 and 134.057 in June of 2012. Obama lost 1.2 million jobs since taking office.

    Preliminary figures show there will only be 133.092 million Non farm Payroll jobs in August 2012, so Obama will have lost over 2 million jobs since taking office if the preliminary numbers turn out to be true.

    http://data.bls.gov/pdq/Surve...
    Select total non farm payroll (Not Seasonally Adjusted) and run the report

    SLAMMED THE MARXIST WITH OBAMA FACTS.

    YOU NEED TO PRODUCE FACT NOT PARTY LINE CRAP.
  • C:\DOS> Kiosk Kid 2012/09/24 09:13:14 (edited)
    C:\DOS>
    I have but two words for any tea partier who thinks "discussion" means shouting and spewing empty epithets:

    Go. Away.

    And by the way, in THIS universe, Obama didn't take office until Jan. 20.
  • Kiosk Kid C:\DOS> 2012/09/24 17:52:34
    Kiosk Kid
    Every president's term ended on Dec 31. That is the last day time the numbers come out especially on annual numbers. So to be consistent, they do it with all numbers. Bush was responsible for 2001 - 2008 data and Obama is responsible for 2009 -2012.

    Small business owners sawthat a Marxist Liberal would be in the White House so the pulled their money off the table and fired in mass

    Do small businesses support Obama's policies?

    "Sixteen percent of small businesses approve of the job President Obama is doing."

    http://www.uschambersmallbusi...

    Investors are not going to bet their money on Obama. They are not stupid.

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