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  • Not Einstein 2009/05/13 00:45:54
    Bush Is More Corrupt Because
    Not Einstein
    +50
    RESUME for the Office of President of the United States (through 2004)

    George Walker Bush
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    Washington, DC 20520

    Education and Experience

    Law Enforcement

    I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days.

    My Texas driving record has been “lost” and is not available.

    Military

    I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

    College

    I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

    I was given an Masters of Business Administration degree at Harvard.

    Past Work Experience

    I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975.

    I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. The bin Laden family gave me money to try again, and I bankrupted that company too.

    I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

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    RESUME for the Office of President of the United States (through 2004)

    George Walker Bush
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    Washington, DC 20520

    Education and Experience

    Law Enforcement

    I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days.

    My Texas driving record has been “lost” and is not available.

    Military

    I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

    College

    I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

    I was given an Masters of Business Administration degree at Harvard.

    Past Work Experience

    I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975.

    I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. The bin Laden family gave me money to try again, and I bankrupted that company too.

    I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

    With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

    Accomplishments as Governor of Texas


    I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

    I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

    I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

    Accomplishments as President

    I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

    I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

    I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

    I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

    I achieved negative job growth for the first time in over a century. I did this partly with my agressive job exporting/outsourcing program.

    I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

    I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

    I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.

    I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

    I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

    I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

    My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

    My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

    I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.

    I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

    I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

    I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.

    I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.

    I’ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

    I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

    I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

    I refused to allow inspector’s access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

    I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

    I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

    I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

    I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

    I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

    I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families — in wartime.

    I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

    I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster", a WMD.

    I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

    Records and References

    All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father’s library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

    All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

    All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

    George W Bush, corruption and lies:
    http://mindprod.com/politics/...

    Elections: How Bush used all manner of fraud to steal the presidential election, not just the stuff you saw on CNN. How Bush picked his cabinet and their very dirty connections with big oil, big tobacco, big pharmaceuticals and big crime. How racist America still is. How the Republicans steal from the poor to give to rich and lie about it convincingly.

    9/11, Terrorism, Bin Laden Family, etc.
    Please, people, read some books!
    http://mindprod.com/politics/...

    Iraq War. Oh, look, there are books and books about this too!
    http://mindprod.com/politics/...

    Tyranny
    http://mindprod.com/politics/...

    The Swiftboating of John KerrySkull & Bones

    Skull and Bones
    Unbelievable as it sounds, there is a fraternity at Yale established in 1832 called the Skull & Bones society. Many prominent Americans belong to it, including George W. Bush and Sr. Their membership is publicly acknowledged. You can even read about it in back issues of the Yale Alumni Magazine. You can find the many references with a google search using the site:www.yalealumnimagazine.com skull bones search option. Even 60 Minutes did a documentary on it.

    For those unfamiliar with fraternity initiation rituals, the initiation rites of the Skull & Bones society are shocking. Even for those that are familiar, the rituals seem too bizarre to believe, especially in a fraternity for the upper crust. However, they even been filmed by secret infrared camera. You can even see a small clip from the ABC news video.

    As did every member of the Yale Skull & Bones fraternity, George W. Bush and Bush Sr.:

    Publicly sold their souls to Satan. George W. Bush may have considered it a joke, but it is still a sick joke.

    Publicly masturbated in a coffin in view of the other members of the fraternity.

    Swore allegiance to Satan while touching a human skull.

    Bowed before a man dressed as Satan.

    Permitted a man to press a human femur (thigh bone) into his anus.

    Publicly confessed the entire catalog of his lifelong sexual fantasies.

    Chanted the mantra:
    “The Hangman equals Death.
    The devil equals death.
    Death equals Death.”
    ~ George W. Bush (born: 1946-07-06 age: 62)

    Lewis Alper, an Evangelical Christian, discusses the religious blasphemy of the initiation ceremony, and Bush’s refusal, even late in life, after he was saved, to repudiate his pledge of allegiance to Satan.

    This all seems utterly preposterous unless you lived in a frat house like I did and know something of how these rituals can evolve into further and further daring. Skull & Bones is definitely out there in right field, but it is not that much further out than what happened at UBC fraternities in the 60’s — e.g. walking naked with a marshmallow in the crack of the pledge’s butt then having to eat it, or the limp biscuit, a circle jerk with the last guy to come having to eat the semen-covered biscuit.

    One could argue no one believes in the devil, so it was all a harmless but daring prank. However, Bush at least publicly professes to believe in the fundamentalist Christian notions of God and Satan, so the ceremony would have been daring and perhaps even frightening for him.

    However Skull & Bones is much more sinister than attempts to eBay the initiate’s soul to the devil. Its members conspire to promote each other into positions of high office. That is the primary function of the order. This is the issue that the books about Skull & Bones primarily address. Bush has appointed 10 members of Skull & Bones to high posts in his administration, including Associate Attorney General Robert McCallum Jr. and SEC chief Bill Donaldson.

    George W. Bush also belongs to a fruitcake group called the Bohemian Grove. They are wealthy people who meet once a year to perform a mock human sacrifice to a 40 foot owl statue accompanied by Wagnerian opera and flames. There are allegations of sexual abuse, but no charges. There is even a poor quality video of the event, and here is a longer one.

    Members of this kinky fraternity include: Senator Kerry, Senator Boren, Senator Jonathan Bingham, Senator John Chaffee (Former Navy Secretary and on the Senate Intelligence Committee), Senator John Heinz (ketchup), Henry Luce (Time Life), Henry Stimson (Mr. Pearl Harbour), George Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, Dean Acheson, Rutherford B. Hayes, William F. Buckley, Jr., McGeorge Bundy, Thomas Daniels (ADM), Dino Pionzio CIA deputy chief of station in Chile during the overthrow of Chilean President Salvador Allende),
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  • Astro-Boy PHAET 2009/08/05 21:16:37
    Bush And Obama Are Equally Corrupt Because
    Astro-Boy PHAET
    +1
    LOL...funny. It's not apples and oranges, it's all Banana's,
  • safari Astro-B... 2009/08/09 14:21:39
    safari
    +1
    My mom told me the other night that if you put them all in a hat and shook them up you couldn't tell one from the other. lol
  • Astro-B... safari 2009/08/09 17:17:31
    Astro-Boy PHAET
    +1
    Haha...thats a good line. I'm gonna use it!
  • safari Astro-B... 2009/08/14 07:49:30
    safari
    +1
    She will get a kick out of it if I tell her you said that. lol :-)
  • Astro-B... safari 2009/08/14 07:50:37
    Astro-Boy PHAET
    +1
    Yes, do it. I like it.
  • John 2009/06/04 17:29:47
    Obama Is More Corrupt Because
    John
    +2
    That is an easy question.
  • agnsttrnd*nation in turmoil* 2009/05/27 17:56:34
    Obama Is More Corrupt Because
    agnsttrnd*nation in turmoil*
    +2
    Too easy!!
  • Surgeon ~The Egalitarianist~ 2009/05/23 19:17:12
    Obama Is More Corrupt Because
    Surgeon ~The Egalitarianist~
    +2
    Track record.
  • luly 2009/05/22 21:31:03
    Obama Is More Corrupt Because
    luly
  • Surgeon... luly 2009/05/23 19:17:33
    Surgeon ~The Egalitarianist~
    +2
    *claps*
  • Samurai ORC 2009/05/19 22:44:12
    Obama Is More Corrupt Because
    Samurai ORC
    +3
    He has tried to reinstutute slavery and is grabbing for more political and federal governemnt power than Bush did.
  • 1oct1 "Marko" 2009/05/19 00:20:22
    Bush And Obama Are Equally Corrupt Because
    1oct1 "Marko"
    +1
    ..it's early.
  • moorrbrt1 "In God we Trust" 2009/05/18 03:48:07
    Obama Is More Corrupt Because
    moorrbrt1 "In God we Trust"
    +5
    His voting record and what he says are two different things.
  • ruthie 2009/05/17 05:25:27
    Bush Is More Corrupt Because
    ruthie
    +2
    Obama has only been in office 5 months so I am unable to make a educated decsion. Bush or bush connies are more corrupt right now. We went into a war based on lies. I myself felt bambuzled. I think that they went there to get their piggy little hands on the oil.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/04 17:32:00
    John
    +1
    Obama has already done more harm, than Bush did in 8 years.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/04 22:50:06
    ruthie
    yea right, as more and more actions are found it becomes more apparent that there is many more to find that have been hidden in dark reassesses for the last 8years . They are running all over the place trying get the focus on anything but their two terms in office. Also You have not one shred of prove that it was not a corrupt 2 terms. Give me this LIGAMENT proof that he is and was not corrupt. Other wise you are blowing hot air. Mr. Obama has been transparent, I do not think there any proof that he is being corrupt. Every day when I watch the news or listen on the radio he has told me what he is doing today. He respects me as a person.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/05 14:56:01
    John
    +1
    Obama transparent. When? NEVER!!!!!

    Look at his speach in Egypt. Just that speach shows his coruption. That speach alone is enough to impeach the criminal.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/05 15:57:43
    ruthie
    You folks have an answer for everything. I never really get proof just because someone said so. That is not an answer. Someone who you believe is right.
    I am the same I read something different and see something else. So i will stand by my statement. I like it when someone tells me I am an important and valued person, unlike the last guy.
    Tell me what was corupt. I sure don't see or hear anyone saying it was corupt and most people don't hold back.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/05 16:24:56
    John
    +1
    Wake up. I did not realize that people like you actually existed. Obama has been a disgrace to this country since day one.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/05 17:05:53
    ruthie
    I know this is a lot to read. Obama is my President and I am proud of his progress. He speaks for most of the people in this country who want to heal our imige.
    Washington - Did President Obama in his Cairo speech signal a new toughness towards the Arab-Israeli peace process?

    Past presidents have opposed Israeli settlements in the West Bank. In Cairo, Mr. Obama said plainly that the US will not accept the legitimacy of continued settlement activity.

    Past presidents have supported the two-state solution, with Israel and a Palestinian nation living side by side. In Cairo, Obama insisted that each side needs to recognize the other's right to exist.

    With these and other points, Obama was not so much making new policy as forcefully explaining the implications of policies that exist, says Frederick Barton, codirector of the Post-Conflict Reconstruction Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    "His speech had this element of candor that his immediate audience [in the Middle East] is not familiar with," says Mr. Barton.

    Obama's 55-minute address was heavily promoted by the White House, both in the US and the Middle East. Given its importance, it is almost certain that Obama and his speechwriters considered carefully every phrase, nuance, and emphasis.

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    I know this is a lot to read. Obama is my President and I am proud of his progress. He speaks for most of the people in this country who want to heal our imige.
    Washington - Did President Obama in his Cairo speech signal a new toughness towards the Arab-Israeli peace process?

    Past presidents have opposed Israeli settlements in the West Bank. In Cairo, Mr. Obama said plainly that the US will not accept the legitimacy of continued settlement activity.

    Past presidents have supported the two-state solution, with Israel and a Palestinian nation living side by side. In Cairo, Obama insisted that each side needs to recognize the other's right to exist.

    With these and other points, Obama was not so much making new policy as forcefully explaining the implications of policies that exist, says Frederick Barton, codirector of the Post-Conflict Reconstruction Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    "His speech had this element of candor that his immediate audience [in the Middle East] is not familiar with," says Mr. Barton.

    Obama's 55-minute address was heavily promoted by the White House, both in the US and the Middle East. Given its importance, it is almost certain that Obama and his speechwriters considered carefully every phrase, nuance, and emphasis.

    In general, the speech appeared to be an effort to get everyone in the region to take a hard look at themselves. Thus he talked about Islamic extremism, Holocaust denial, and the lack of women's rights in many Middle Eastern countries. But he also talked about Israel's responsibilities to displaced Palestinians.

    "I think the most important thing people should take away from this speech was that the president really tried to hold the mirror up to all of the communities with whom he was speaking," said Steven Cook, a senior fellow for Middle Eastern Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, in a published analysis of the talk.

    As to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute – the pivot around which so much in the region moves – the speech did not reveal any big policy changes. But given the history of the peace process, even marginal changes in rhetoric can be important in the eyes of the players.

    In discussing a future Palestinian state, for instance, Obama called it simply "Palestine" – a formulation US leaders seldom, if ever, use. Normally, they opt for more ambiguous terms.

    Obama talked about the "unbreakable" bond between the US and Israel, the pain of the Holocaust, and Israel's right to exist. But he also talked about the pain of Palestinian dislocation, and right of Palestinians to their own state.

    "That equivalence of Palestinian and Israeli problems is seldom made so closely by a US president," says Matthew Duss, a Middle East researcher at the Center for American Progress.

    "That is very significant," he says.

    Obama recently called for a freeze on Israeli settlement activity. The government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected this call.

    Meanwhile, in the US, the National Jewish Democratic Council, the organization for Jewish members of Obama's own party, praised the president for emphasizing the necessity of acceptance of the Jewish homeland in Israel.

    "We recognize his wisdom in speaking directly to the Muslim world about the need to abandon fantasies of destroying Israel," said the group in a press release.

    Ron Bruder, a New York Jewish entrepreneur who founded the Education for Employment Foundation, an organization dedicated to training and finding jobs for youth in the Middle East and North Africa, praised Obama's speech as a positive move for the region.

    "He is putting us on the right path for global peace," says Mr. Bruder.
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  • John ruthie 2009/06/05 17:32:02
    John
    +1
    His speach in Cairo showed a coward in the middle east. Obama is handing us over the the terriorist in the Middle East.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/05 22:48:25
    ruthie
    I think you are the coward who would hide behind big guns and kill them all.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/06 23:16:13
    John
    We are discussing the coruptness of your pResident Osama/Obama.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/07 00:18:41
    ruthie
    Oh, I thought we were discussing Bush. He was one of cheney lackeys. To be honest Bush really does seem like he was all alone in this mess.
    I don't know if Obama has been in that seat long enough to be blamed for anything. Right now though I am pretty confidant in him. Bush was for the most part ok until 9/11 then all bets were off.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/08 16:01:45
    John
    Obama has never been ok. Everything he has done will harm the American people. Look at all the tax increases he has caused.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/08 16:19:27
    ruthie
    Do you have a reliable source.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/08 17:30:58
    John
    REALITY!!!!!
  • ruthie John 2009/06/08 17:39:42
    ruthie
    Are you saying that I am way off the mark.
    Where is your proof. If you don't have one lets just end the conversation
  • John ruthie 2009/06/08 19:36:23
    John
    Look at everything Obama has done to this country. He has increased our taxes. He has driven the debt if record highs. He is tring to become friends with his terriorist buddies. This will make it much easier for them to attack us.

    No new taxes = much higher taxes.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/08 22:06:53
    ruthie
    John I am unable to find that message you sent to me about about the sodameyer(?)
    it could have been an other sight.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/07 00:24:45
    ruthie
    i just don't where you get your info.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/08 16:02:01
    John
    From reality, where did you get yours.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/08 16:21:18 (edited)
    ruthie
    I get it from the same place you get I imagine. I try to get it from unbias new.

    CSM.com
    Christian Science Monitor
  • John ruthie 2009/06/08 17:31:54
    John
    From the name, I must assume that it is a very bias source.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/08 17:42:29
    ruthie
    why don't you take a looksee.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/08 19:36:38
    John
    I have
  • ruthie John 2009/06/08 22:10:55 (edited)
    ruthie
    John you and I are on two sperate sides and that is ok. I respect you and your believes. I also know that is is what is your feel as does is my opinion.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/05 17:07:13
    ruthie
    oh, by the way I would love to read the news story that implied that.
  • John ruthie 2009/06/05 17:32:25
    John
    Most, if not all, of them.
  • ruthie John 2009/06/05 22:50:14
    ruthie
    Most of them what?
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